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@Genesis One What’s wrong with trying to be the best at what you do ??? Steven is an amazing interviewer, and seems to be getting better and better at the job. Why begrudge someone who is doing an excellent job whilst helping a hell of a lot of people in the process ? Look to yourself before you criticise others !!!! 😊😊😊 Happy Christmas 🎄
@Genesis One A very simple solution then. Don’t listen to his interviews if you’re not getting anything positive from them. Have a wonderful Christmas 🎄 😊😊😊
He is spot on about not being able to share depression with most people who would consider themselves “there for you”. Most people freak out at the words suicide or depression and get angry at you for your sadness. It’s so lonely being manic- depressive. It’s impossible to explain or describe, but it just takes over and suddenly you forget what normal feels like.
This exactly. 👏👏👏 This. Exactly. Friends tell you they’ll always be there for you. Until you work up the courage to tell them that you are having suicidal thoughts…and then suddenly those friends are all gone.
@@alexandrialeonora6542 exactly.And I live in a country where friendship doesn't exist or is considered as something that is only for teenagers or very young adults. People are distant. Who do you show your vulnerability to? No one accepts it.
Kasonda , I identify very much with your comment ( for the time in the past when I suffered from bi-polar disorder ), however in the past five years or so , this horrible “thing” seems to have left me completely . No medication ( of any kind ) , no alcohol , no therapy of any kind . . . simply a change in lifestyle . . . lots and lots of exercise , close attention to eating good foods ( in moderation ) , meditation and recognizing how very fortunate I have been to have an amazing wife that I love immensely ( and viceversa ) . I have come to realize how important gratitude is in one’s search for happiness/contentment . I wish you ( and everyone else who has suffered that “plague” ) the best , in your journey towards health .
One of the scariest things about depression is you feel so incredibly alone, and unique, like your the only one in the world that endures these horrific, stupid things. The huge gift Stephen Fry gives us, is the knowledge that we’re not alone, and maybe there’s a way out! What a wonderful man!
@@ripdbtpoo1441 Sorry but I couldn’t disagree more! What I meant was that most of the feelings associated with depression are universal! They are part of the human condition! They are in no way unique or special to you alone, many others have felt them AND have found ways to deal with them! No one is that special!
I don't agree.. I have been diagnosed with extreme clinical depression and I still feel for others, and don't feel like I'm the only one suffering. I feel I'm suffering because we all are...
@@morbidmanmusic I feel that you’re a lucky person. I spent most of my life believing that everyone else knew a secret that I didn’t. That everyone knew how to be happy except me, I only pretended to be happy. That if anyone found out how desperately unhappy I was they’d lock me up.
@@ripdbtpoo1441 We're not alone, it's the mind that creates the illusion of being a separate individual. Just as people believed centuries ago that everything revolved around the earth, we suffer under an illusion. One that's very convincing, but an illusion nonetheless. Because all our behaviours and feelings etc, are the inevitable and unchangeable result of interactions with others. Even choosing to deliberately isolate oneself is the effect of the person's relationship to others. We're actually all a part of the whole-even as we may feel like we're apart from the whole.
What appeals to me about Stephen Fry is his honesty and humility. I also find his vocabulary admirable, his pronunciation enjoyable and his humanity endearing. ❤
@@iociccio936Your homophobia is showing- watch the film American Beauty- your comments remind me of the highly strung, homophobic Dad who fell to his knees in the garage scene. If you were more secure in your masculinity, then other men being gay wouldn't bother you so greatly. You'd be so busy being happy dating women or being married to a woman instead of obsessing over hating Gay men. So what's your deal?
What I like about the interviewr, is how well prepared he is for his guests. He does his research on them and knows what to ask them. Also, he leaves them talking which is so rare in nowadays media.
Yea, I appreciate that too. Most interviewers cut in and don't even allow the guest to finish a thought. People want to hear what they have to say and the interviewers always feel like they have to redirect the conversation. That can be very annoying. I like how this gentleman simply allows Stephen to express all that he has to share. That's how interviews should be done! Let the guest speak! Ask questions when appropriate or when a thought is complete. No need to constantly interject. I wish this would catch on.
That's a very good point. I hate listening to interviews whereas speakers are continuously cut off almost as much as I hate being cut off while explaining something myself. I have learned that people who interrupt you always, without apology, just don't care about what you have to say, and therefore, are not worthy friends, and should be discarded as such.
Well. I'd rather live the rest of my life without any demons, even if that meant there wouldn't be any angels as well. As long as my family and friends are alright, I don't care.
@@davekelley4076 what he is saying is that the depression and dark moments allow you to appreciate the good moments much better. You don't realize what you have until it's under threat of loss.
If ever there was an argument against self harm,. suicide and depression, it would be the premature loss of a man such as Stephen Fry. Thankfully, for all of us, he survived and the rest is history.
@sabbracadabra8367 Well clearly that didnt solve much, since that was hardly the end of his problems or suicide attempts. Cambridge merely saved him from going further down the criminal rabbit hole, and helped with his future career trajectory.
My 13 year old daughter has recently tried to commit suicide and we then found she had been cutting herself too. We don't think she is manic depressive as she doesn't seem to have the manic side but we are still waiting for doctors to get us an appointment. We have talked and we try to understand and be there, but it's easy to feel frustrated. Not because we don't care or feel angry at her, but because with all honesty we don't know how to take the sadness she feels and we feel frustrated and useless...and basically a failure as parents. So far, the best we can do is keep an eye on her, talk to her, accept how she feels and be there for her. And try to smile when all you want to do is cry inside. To all of you who are feeling depressed or are with someone who is- the warmest of hugs. Its tough 😪
If she happens to have naturally low serotonin at present, it's no more your fault than if she had naturally low insulin and was diabetic. We all have a 'weakest point' in our constitution. And the cutting might not just be low self-esteem or even trying to make invisible mental pain visible physical pain. It can also be 'self medicating'. By triggering the flow of endorphins that provide BOTH types of pain relief. (Stroking and cuddling to produce oxytocin is also effective. Rubbing someone's back especially. That's why parents instinctively soothe babies that way.) Diagnosis of bipolar can take time. Often depression is diagnosed first. And schizoaffective takes even longer. But be reassured. A lot of folk with any of these, get a medication mix that balances them for many years to a very good quality of life, full time job, study, marriage etc. I pray things improve for you all.
So sorry you are all going through it. I assume you have looked into her social life and social media use? Kids are so good at hiding what is going on in their lives, and so sensitive to the smallest slight at this age, it is really scary what can cause them go off the rails sometimes.
@@jamiebottomley1422 I don’t mean to be dismissive, but from what I read it sounds just like another case of pathologizing normal human states - normal ups and downs in mood. I mean, there is no other information about it other than a description of ‘symptoms’ as alternating moods - and how does have a steady mood??
This was truly glorious. I thought my life at boarding school was horrific at 8 and 9. I wanted to die. A few years later our lauandry maid the kindest lady in the the world, a Mrs Hurring, steared me into roller skating God bless her sweet soul. I became an Otago junior roller skating champion in figures aged 11. At 80 I will never forget her I adore Stephen. There is always a great life ahead if you meet the right people.
@@iociccio936 Do you need someone to tell you where the CAPSLOCK is? If you are pushing your religion or politics, a lot of people will be offended and annoyed. Tjis is not a place to preach your random beliefs that most people do not share - either religious OR political/social.
Stephen, do you think maybe real happiness comes from love. I am 87 years and lived a interesting and reasonably colourful life. Looking back I now realise the times I have felt the most joy was when I truly felt love, or maybe the word is empathy. I have sat quietly with nature, hearing, watching and feeling the beauty around me. I have felt the peace of my environment. I have held my child in my arms fully aware of the touch, smell and sound of this beloved child. These are the moments I have been completely happy. Now I am old my happiness is with the contentment I constantly feel. When my son hugs me goodbye and whispers “ love you, mum.” When either of my grandchildren greet me with a warm, tender smile and appear to enjoy an hour of my company. When my few close friends bother to spend time with me probably listening to stories I have repeated numerous times. These are the things I value more than life itself, these are the things that make it all worthwhile.
I will not have children and I don’t have a spouse. I am 40, this didn’t happen by choice but by circumstance. I am worried for my future.. everyone says kids is what makes life worth living… that’s not my reality.
@@nordstrandmusicinternation9518 If your belief forces you to think Stephen Fry is an ugly soul, there might, just maybe, be your belief that is fucked up. In none of the writings or talks I've seen of Fry does he "shun" god though, he simply doesn't believe in god. God being able to show Fry exactly what he would need to see to believe but not doing so is the one doing the shunning it seems to me. Anyways, consider it. If your belief system makes you think Hitler is a better person than Fry based only on the virtue of Hitler being a believer, it might be time to think it over.
@@nordstrandmusicinternation9518 another religious fascist , we dont need a god were English , we have physics , evolutionary biology , geology , which all point to a world that requires no man made deities , coupled with humanism we have all any adult needs , i will take Stephen Fry over you any day , Stephen is a model Homosapien in deed and thought , unlike you and your stupid statement
I met this gorgeous man once at the Groucho Club in London. I was shy, tongue tied and totally overawed by the people there. He realised this at sat a chatted to me. He made me feel as though I was the only person in the room. Thank you Mr Fry you sir are a darling.
This is the great tragedy of depression. No matter how loved they are it doesn't help. This man is admired and even loved by millions, is wealthy and yet horrible depression still gets to him. Keep a close eye on your friends. I've lost one to this awful condition and none of us saw it coming. :-(
That's a very much needed message. I am told this again and again and I still say "Oh just cheer up, meditate, take a walk". It's not good enough. We need to be there for them, completely and without judgement. xxx
@ChoppingtonOtter Very true I lost my beloved younger brother to suicide. He carefully hid his condition and planned his end, writing a long letter and leaving his affairs in order. It was brutal to those of us left behind.
I didn't know this, I've had bipolar since around 10 or 12 years of age. 60ys old now. My son, who loves Stephen Fry, has recently shown signs and symptoms of bipolar. When I see him next, I try to have him watch with me. Thank you
Just think of how many people he's helped by simply sharing those stigmatized things! It baffles me that people can sit in these comment fields and talk about how the guy is evil through and through because their religions of peace and love tells them so. Very glad it helped you as it has helped so many others.
I love Stephen. He brought me and my father together, it sounds strange but my dad was so distant. As I got older, I came into the room and saw dad watching Stephen in Blackadder. That was the start. We watched everything he was in together. Then we watched/listened to all of his speeches together and discussed them. It helped us bond before dad died. I'm forever grateful
I love Stephen Fry, his fragility and emotional intellligence make him even more attractive , so bright and articulate, he would be one of my dinner party guests 😀
My ex husband who was an actor told me to tell Stephen Fry that he should write a book about the daily life of living as a homosexual and all the nuances. As it would be great to hear about this in more detail. Like who cookd and who does what. So please tell him. Im a painter and I know the artistic temparent.
Your comment reminded me of this song. Hope is the light that we all need. Things will get better. ruclips.net/video/SgTdc_Cx0VY/видео.htmlsi=jrBIyQTlQW3D-esa
Watching this during a depressive episode has been a genuine salve. Stephen Fry manages to put into words the complexities of bi-polar disorder. The knowledge that it will pass is what I’m clinging to at the moment. Thank you Stephen for being such a understandable voice for our ‘situation’ in life. You are much loved.
This is one of the most professional podcasts I have listened to. You really let the guest shine to their fullest. How it flows is just magnificent. Well done! :)
@@iociccio936 you obviously have a very difficult time letting an acknowledged national British treasure who is exceptionally talented in various fields discuss his own humanity because he is gay. If he had the skills as well as the problems he developed but had been straight, you apparently would have a completely different reaction
My dad was a RAF pilot. He flew Spitfires. And Stephen is completely right. The war ended, and every day after that, until his death in 2005 was chopped liver. He struggled with depression and finding meaning and purpose his entire life. Very very sad.
I wrote about the history of Malta. Spitfires were one of the very nec. things that helped save Malta from total destruction. War is horrible & it destroys people no matter what "side" they fight for. I'm so sorry for your father.
My dad was the same. He was a navigator with the RAF and after the war, came home and was hit with complete total depression. He struggled the rest of his life.
How I respect this man. I’m a trauma warrior who failed two suicidal events. As I am healing I’m relieved I was successful at surviving. 70 here and send MR Fry applause in his growth and support to keep making this world a better place because he is in it. He is brilliant and so insightful. I love the metaphor your hear the hooves of the horses coming. My experience came with my body being on fire on the inside and I thought I’d implode. Imploding actually was the panic attack that you are convinced each time that your brain is melting and you’re having a heart attack and then lights out on the worst ones. Live and healing diminishing the drama. I came back to applaud you, the intelligent interviewer, who has the wisdom to give his guest the precious time to share his story without interference. Some interviewers like to hear themselves talk. Thank you for gifting us with giving dear Mr. Fryes his time to tell his story.
Listen on RUclips to bukowski’s“ The laughing heart “ . I was raised by a mother who was lobotomised when I was a child . My life was traumatic to say the least , constant anxiety and misery . Her life was worse ! . ........This poem I have memorised and repeat to myself often
Wonderful that you are healing. Life is so precious and we are here a short while. I now try to live on the sunny side of the street, so to speak. I focus on the happy things, though if anyone I love is suffering I do find it difficult. ❤️
I think Stephen Fry is a kind of wonderful combo of Oscar Wilde and Socrates. As someone who has also had severe trouble with their mental health I am presumptuous enough to think of him as a friend even though I have never met him. Thank you Stephen Fry. You rock!
I often think about what the world/people/me would be like had I been taught Stoicism and or the like. Atm I'm learning it, Seneca etc and its helping me so much! Better late than never. Great video!!🙂
It is extraordinary how sad such a successful person is… Me myself, had a rugby accident, that left me paralysed from my neck down, at 18. I’m 55 now and have always found “my” happiness from loving and being loved by those around me. Its hard and took me a long time, but the joy and laughter I’ve found through my family, wife, health care workers, friends or however, is where I recharge or thrive and am so glad of it….
I am in awe of anyone, not unlike yourself, who has been able to overcome such incredibly difficult personal circumstances that would cause most situational depression. Your ability to choose to overcome it through loving relationships is quite admirable. By contrast, clinical depression rooted in a biological illness of the brain affecting mood (Bipolar disorder in this instance) is typically not overcome by an act of the will no more so than you might be able to choose to stand and walk should you have the right positive attitude. Imagine being condemned or shamed for not being able to will yourself to do so. Respectfully speaking, that is the equivalent to confusing one's reasons to be grateful and happy in their life circumstances with their brain's capacity to produce neurotypical mood with an organic brain illness with which one does not suffer. I am not suggesting that you are implying such. Rather, I mean only to highlight the difference that most miss.
What a wonderful person. At the age of 68, I've just been diagnosed with ADHD, and possible/probable bi-polar disorder. It's been a challenging 68 years, and now I'm doing my best to adjust my perspective on my life. How amazingly gratifying to learn that I share many experiences with none other than Stephen Fry. It gives me hope and reassurance. I thank you and him sincerely for this interview. I feel so lucky to have found it. I have subscribed to your channel(?) and will read The Body Holds the Score, and look for more of Stephen's thoughts on the subject of mental health. Much love and gratitude. ❤ P.S. I love his comment on the execrable Piers Morgan.
The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk is such an excellent book. Life changing, it makes the case very well for the benefits of bodily creative expression, whether that be dance, song, theater or yoga. We were made to move in expressive ways. 🕺🏼
@@TruthSeeker-rn1tmI doubt he wants to be a self-righteous judge of his fellow man🤷🏻♀️ When you know the acceptance the Father has for you as _you_ are, you can’t help but look at others with the same acceptance and treat them with the same grace☝️
I am an artist. Today I was able to concentrate and be relaxed as I was listening to this wonderful interview. I’ve always loved Stephen fry and ,I’ve him even more now. My 24 year old daughter recommended I listen to you. I am 52. Congratulations and thanks from the bottom of my heart for what you have taught me (especially with Mo and Alli) Tara swart…. I’m an avid Huel drinker after my gym work out. I’ve just been through 2 years of hand therapy as I injured my artist hands. Have recently been diagnosed with spinal stenosis. In younger years, a dance floor queen. Your podcast has not only got me through my transformation but made me a better and happier person. Not sure I’d change much actually . Thankyou 🙏
Wow!! That's fantastic! I'm so happy for you, your daughter has great taste too. Glad to hear you can do your art again. It's often hard for me to concentrate but podcasts help me, even meditation before I try to do a task that requires focus. Look after yourself and I'm so happy for you!❤❤
A sobering and honest example of how fragile we all are, despite our levels of perception of success - A voice we should all hear and remember his words
Insight into a bipolar brain. He is an important voice for people who share his illness, which is like having your brain hijacked by an unrelenting terrorist squad. It’s hard to articulate it, and even the best psychiatrists have no idea what it’s like unless they’ve lived it. He’s my hero.
One of the most intelligent interviewers I have ever seen. You gave them space to talk and when it stalled right in there with a spot on question. SOLD
37 right now, experiencing that "lost, alone and I wanted to take my life", and I badly need this stories of recovery. Stephen Fry is a gift to humankind.
32 and have been living in isolation for 12 yrs since i left school. Now my grandma is dying and my mom is sick and i feel so alone and hopeless i just want to end it all
I love Stephen Fry. He is unapologetically himself. So inspiring, creative, and self-deprecating. I find his life story, and indeed his storytelling, quite riveting. I too have a love of language ❤️✨️✨️✨️🤗
I absolutely adore Stephen Fry. He is the most humble, honest, caring, and wonderful human being. I have never heard anything leave his mouth, which is disrespectful or derogatory towards anyone. A wonderful human being!!!!
I love Stephen Fry, I discovered him in the 80’s his humour and Acting is Brilliant his spoken word work is excellent and his film of depression was absolutely ground breaking and comforting . I could listen to this all evening , he’s so down to earth, so real. He gives hope to everyone. A beautiful Soul indeed.
@@iociccio936 hit the nail on the head, he feels free to absolutely condemn those he doesn’t believe in, if we didn’t have the internet he wouldn’t appear to be so clever
I have loved Steven since I first saw him with Hugh Laurie in the Bertie Wooster and Jeeves series, which is truly marvelous, for anyone who hasn’t seen it. I hope he continues to be around. Thank you, Mr Fry, for being you.
Stephen has always been beyond his years , and an empath to the core . We question everything and express ourselves through words , and expression , arts etc . Its a heavy load to carry because of the years of trauma from different aspects of our lives . I love your vlog , its so natural and calm . Love from Ireland .
@@iociccio936You're spouting Russian/Putin propaganda hate mongering. Why are you even watching the interview if it "offends" you so? Or is Putin paying you to spread misinformation and hatred at one of his many Troll Farms?
I’ve struggled with mental health most of my life. Major depressive episodes, panic attacks, ptsd, generalized anxiety, discomfort in larger groups(sometimes as little as 2 or more). It is very lonely. I’ve struggled with finding the right medication/s, therapist, doctors. Most people don’t understand. I’ve been told to let it go, get over it, pray for it to go away. I had a friend that was bipolar (manic depressive). We both had our particularly nasty moments with the people we cared for, including each other. But we loved each other and always had an ear for the other. Last October, the day before her birthday, she died of a brain aneurysm. I miss her so much. I’ve been listening to Stephen Fry lectures, sketches, clips for a few days now and it’s made me lighter than I’ve been for some time. Thank you Stephen for your bravery, kindness, sense of humor and love for your fellow humans. We need more people like you.
"I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm having fun". Listening to Stephen is always a delight, a journey and a glimpse into what I ask of my friends in conversations.
As someone who suffers from depression and has attempted suicide seriously at least once, I discovered my way to deal with depression was to do something, anything, physical. Something as simple as mopping the floors or, in fact, going for a walk. There must be chemicals the body produces when undetaking some sort of activity that help fight the chemicals the create the depression. 'Just go for a walk' is certainly something that works for me and it may just work for others who suffer from depression. Perhaps just don't go for a walk near a cliff or over a bridge :) I agree totally with Stephen about it being difficult or impossiblt to discuss mental illness with family because in my experience, they simply want to deny it. It is only when somebody takes action and causes themsevles harm that the recriminations begin. All the time you hear stories about people who have comitted suicide and the families are saying things like, 'Why didn't he reach out and say something.' I can pretty much guarantee that most people who have taken their own lives have tried reaching out for help many, many times before taking the final step. Others were simply in denial or just completely misunderstood the cries for help...
So absolutely correct with your comments, because of shunning so many have failed to be heard when all they needed was a genuine empathetic ear. I support #mentalhealthawareness 💙
My husband has a physical job. He rarely has a long weekend but when he does, he will get depressed after about 2 days if he doesn't do some hard work of some kind.
Any physical movement produces endorphins. Maybe not as much as runners get addicted to, but enough to ensure captive animals pace up and down, institutionalised people rock back and forth, and so yes, physical movement can keep just enough endorphins flowing to take the edge off the mental pain. The distraction aspect of being grounded in 'action' helps to break the cyclical thinking too. That's also what mindfulness relies on. Some people who self-harm also do so because they've learned that the physical pain of the non-life threatening injury triggers endorphin pain-relief in a similar way. It's a multi-purpose painkiller similar to morphine and acts on a lot of systems. Same way that serotonin is triggered by digestion (comfort eating) AND accumulated by SSRI anti-depressants. The physical exercise also uses up adrenaline and lowers stress. We're designed to fight-or-flight for survival, not sit there worrying and ruminating for months. And outdoor walking adds nature, which is soothing to our senses.
Stephen Fry is always so frank, open and honest ...it's really refreshing... he literally leaves no stone unturned and opens up unashamedly every interview, I really admire him
So I’m about the same age as Stephen and every time I hear him talk about this subject I identify. It’s been a struggle for me staying alive through these years. Best of luck to anybody out there in the same situation.
It was my 50th Birthday Yesterday, I don’t like fuss, I do and Have totally struggled with my Mental Health, So at my Party I wasn’t just celebrating my Birthday, I was Celebrating Staying Here for 50 years!! I don’t know how I got here, but I Am still here! I do feel thankful but on the flip side I Am a bit Unsure how long my life will be! 💖
@@MrZanderLaw happy belated birthday, I hope your doing ok and have many happy, healthy years ahead of you. And to the original poster, best of luck to you too. I hope your doing well both.
One of the greatest honest actors of our time, an authentic guy, loved this interview.....Takes me back to 80's when I used to watch BLACKADDER........... Thanks so much for this episode.
I have probably watched this specific episode at least over 30 times since it came out last year. Finally I’m writing a comment to put into words how incredible this episode was. As an avid podcast listener of all types and kinds this has somehow turned into my comfort episode to listen to when I have nothing. Stephen Fry really is not only so beautifully honest and transparent he is also so eloquent and smart. Truly genius. Feel like I have so much to learn from him and feel like every time I listen to him my conversating and reasoning skills just improve. This is supposed to be a sad podcast but one that I always leans on in how rational while also being empathetic he is. Makes me want to be smarter and improve my vocabulary and as someone who was 22 first time hearing this it really has been a part of my growth in my outlook on life in the past few years. This immediately caused me to go on a Stephen Fry talks/interview binge plus he really is someone I would one day just love to speak to about literally anything in the world as I guarantee it would be interesting. He really has such a unique aura and power of keeping you transfixed and someone that you really want to know everything about and all their views on random bits of life. I know I’ll end up adding to this later on throughout my life in replies but seriously what a truly beautiful episode.
I only meant to have a glance at this.. An hour and 35 minutes later, my coffee is cold, and my soul is satiated. Brilliant interview, you asked the right questions, and stayed out of his way. Very well done
I don't know if you read the comments Stephen, but I search for your videos when I'm stressed. The sound of your voice is the most calming thing I have EVER heard. Please know you're loved and wanted/needed in this world.
Stephen is always a delight.I could listen to him all day long. I hope he makes more documentaries on various topics . My 13 year old son has just discovered Harry potter being narrated by Mr fry on audible and its the first time he's been able to enjoy a book as he has severe dyslexia. He says you are the best storyteller thank you.
Oh my! Never want to lose Stephen Fry in an untimely manner, especially after learning more about him through this interview. I hope to meet him one day. His world of ideas is. a gift to us all
I am 63 and you have described my hole life, I’ve been on meds for 22 years, this round but have felt this way since childhood, I have a psychologist but have not seen her for 3 years . Too hard to act positive . My mum is 94 and that is why I am still here, I could never hurt her by hurting myself, thank you for helping me understand psi so much more
So sorry to read about how you feel. I so understand. Luckily I've been able to "come back" through therapists and meds... but I am aware I'm not 100% but I am happy I don't have that horrible, helpless feeling. I hope you find some solace.
@@iociccio936 you described the most perfect and glorious type of person so of course I would call him the greatest treasure. Probably one of the only people my country can be PROUD of
In my last job of 10 years, now retired, I was always honest with my colleagues about my depression and asked that they tell me if they saw something wrong. As a benefit I made so many friends and was approached by many who were struggling at some point.
Thanks so much for your self disclosure Stephen I'm a mental health practitioner in N. I. and having someone as brave as you really gives people the confidence to come forward and get help with issues they may experiencing. We are trying our best to normalise mental health issues so the stigma will hopefully no longer be a block to people seeking help Thanks again
stephen fry might be the best human to have ever graced this space rock we call home. So charming, down to earth, intellegent and wise. I praise him highly
I have a niece who has a bipolar diagnosis. Listening to Stephen made me think about my reactions to her in both her manic and depressive phases. To my shame I sometimes become frustrated with what are trivial issues at those times. His eloquence in describing both the depths and the highs of his experiences moved me. I wish I knew him as a friend
As someone who also has bipolar disorder I can confirm sometimes your emotional states don't always match the persons circumstances. When Stephen talked about wanting die after the play despite being a successful person was relatable. I have had so many times in my life where I have felt deeply depressed and hopeless even though my circumstances were fine, or manic and unable to sleep when nothing was different in my life. It's hard to put into words how confusing it is to not be able to trust your own emotions. Really enjoyed the BBC series he was in (about this topic) too.
Such an intelligent, funny, open man. I am from Romania, but I've loved him since I saw the first sketches of Fry and Laurie. Would be nice to see them together now, reminiscing on shared adventures. I just discovered this channel, while I was searching for sketches of Fry. Very nice podcast, very articulate host, allows the guest to speak and listens politely. I subscribed :-)
I love the fact that so many of your guests are older people - I think I'm a year younger than you, so most people are still older people by our standards! - but seriously, the advice they are able to offer from their position of lives well-lived and paths well-trodden, to people of our generation, is invaluable.
I have covered the right side of my face, then taken a photo. And mirrored it. Same with left side. It was like photos of two different people. Or a good twin and evil twin. I did this in response to some magazine article I had read about the differences in our faces and symmetry and sanity. It was shocking to me. As of gotten older and had more therapy, I've learned to live with those two sides of myself. But it's terrifying sometimes when you feel the darkness dominate your life. This interview by Stephen is so enlightening. And encouraging . Bravo. Thank you.
I love Stephen Fry so much. I didn't know a lot of the experiences he spoke about. His use of the phrase "what's the point" is exactly it, that really hit home. It's that exact phrase.
I was at that Saturday night performance of Cell Mates. A 23-year-old Kiwi in London, I was awestruck seeing two of my comedy idols together on stage. I was so worried about Stephen when I read the next day that he had disappeared. I'm relieved he got help and went on to do so much good in the world.
I certainly remember the TV coverage. The headlines about the play, being shown. The images of the abandoned car. The concern that he may have drowned himself in the sea. The suddenness of it, but also my complete lack of surprise. His depression had been visible, but only close up. As he says in the interview, look at the eyes. That episode of Jeeves and Wooster only a few months before (about either monogrammed hankies or silk socks). Not sure how long before that was recorded, but depression can take a while to build. The camera zooms in close and for once the eyes don't match the supposed Jeeves character. It was both eyes though. May have been more obvious in his left eye, I can't remember that detail?
What a lovely, intelligent and wise man. I suffer too with mental health and can relate to everything he spoke about. Please have him talk again sometime x
Absolutely love this man, his bravery and positivity is a lesson for everyone who has visited dark times and come out the other side, brilliant interview
I do indeed concur that there comes a point where one begins to ask "what's the point"?. I suffered from unimaginable sadness for nearly 7 years, following an abusive relationship. I lost all my self confidence. Since July of this year I have been feelg like I am coming out the other side, and it's thanks to a mixture of therapy, focusing on a project, and listening to podcasts that have been the contributing factors.
Thank you for bringing Stephen in front of us on your podcast. His descriptive powers, story telling and humble personality makes this man, truly one of the greatest people to listen to.
I have to say this was fantastic! You asked great questions and Stephen wasn’t afraid to be honest in answering them. It might be my favourite podcast you’ve done so far. Thanks Steven for the great conversations you’re letting us witness.
How can I love a person whom I've never met before this much? Stephen Fry... you are a beautiful and inspiring human being and I wish I could be 10% of you when I grow up! Bearing in mind I'm almost 50! Still growing.
This is one of the nicest talks on the interwebs I have ever experienced. Fry obviously had a wonderful time. The interviewer wasn't intrusive, but asked the right questions at the right time. Fry is a gem.
I love his analogy about the storms in your head and the reality of the weather...such a nice way to help others understand that don't suffer with mental illness. Such an interesting podcast, thank you.
I'm so inspired by his incredible mind. He has the type of brain which allows him to recall, evaluate and analyse events, people and thoughts in an academic context which is still able to be understood by many.
He says a big regret is not having children. He would have been a wonderful father & grandfather. THAT would have changed everything - simply gives meaning to life. He would have raised a beloved, accepted for who they are, human being. Heart breaks for him💔Stephen should have had several little ones, gathered round Granddad’s knee, listening to his stories in awe.
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Fantastic interview with Stephen, cheers!
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@Genesis One What’s wrong with trying to be the best at what you do ??? Steven is an amazing interviewer, and seems to be getting better and better at the job.
Why begrudge someone who is doing an excellent job whilst helping a hell of a lot of people in the process ?
Look to yourself before you criticise others !!!! 😊😊😊
Happy Christmas 🎄
@Genesis One A very simple solution then. Don’t listen to his interviews if you’re not getting anything positive from them.
Have a wonderful Christmas 🎄 😊😊😊
Brilliant and very interesting interview
He is spot on about not being able to share depression with most people who would consider themselves “there for you”.
Most people freak out at the words suicide or depression and get angry at you for your sadness. It’s so lonely being manic- depressive. It’s impossible to explain or describe, but it just takes over and suddenly you forget what normal feels like.
Showing vulnerability can frighten friends away.
If showing vulnerability to your friends could frighten them away, they aren't really your friends in the first place mate.
This exactly. 👏👏👏 This. Exactly. Friends tell you they’ll always be there for you. Until you work up the courage to tell them that you are having suicidal thoughts…and then suddenly those friends are all gone.
@@alexandrialeonora6542 exactly.And I live in a country where friendship doesn't exist or is considered as something that is only for teenagers or very young adults. People are distant. Who do you show your vulnerability to? No one accepts it.
Kasonda , I identify very much with your comment ( for the time in the past when I suffered from bi-polar disorder ), however in the past five years or so , this horrible “thing” seems to have left me completely . No medication ( of any kind ) , no alcohol , no therapy of any kind . . . simply a change in lifestyle . . . lots and lots of exercise , close attention to eating good foods ( in moderation ) , meditation and recognizing how very fortunate I have been to have an amazing wife that I love immensely ( and viceversa ) . I have come to realize how important gratitude is in one’s search for happiness/contentment . I wish you ( and everyone else who has suffered that “plague” ) the best , in your journey towards health .
One of the scariest things about depression is you feel so incredibly alone, and unique, like your the only one in the world that endures these horrific, stupid things. The huge gift Stephen Fry gives us, is the knowledge that we’re not alone, and maybe there’s a way out! What a wonderful man!
I'm sorry,jennifer, but we ARE all alone. "You lives alone, and you dies alone. You might as well get used to it". (Character in Kinky Friedman book).
@@ripdbtpoo1441 Sorry but I couldn’t disagree more! What I meant was that most of the feelings associated with depression are universal! They are part of the human condition! They are in no way unique or special to you alone, many others have felt them AND have found ways to deal with them! No one is that special!
I don't agree.. I have been diagnosed with extreme clinical depression and I still feel for others, and don't feel like I'm the only one suffering. I feel I'm suffering because we all are...
@@morbidmanmusic I feel that you’re a lucky person. I spent most of my life believing that everyone else knew a secret that I didn’t. That everyone knew how to be happy except me, I only pretended to be happy. That if anyone found out how desperately unhappy I was they’d lock me up.
@@ripdbtpoo1441 We're not alone, it's the mind that creates the illusion of being a separate individual. Just as people believed centuries ago that everything revolved around the earth, we suffer under an illusion. One that's very convincing, but an illusion nonetheless. Because all our behaviours and feelings etc, are the inevitable and unchangeable result of interactions with others. Even choosing to deliberately isolate oneself is the effect of the person's relationship to others. We're actually all a part of the whole-even as we may feel like we're apart from the whole.
'I just wanted to be somewhere else, even nowhere'.
Such a simple and profound statement.
Having felt like this recently, I know exactly how perfectly this describes it.
I even explained it to my girlfriend in a similar way
@@theenglishbiker8293I fully agree with the explanation
What appeals to me about Stephen Fry is his honesty and humility. I also find his vocabulary admirable, his pronunciation enjoyable and his humanity endearing. ❤
@@iociccio936Your homophobia is showing- watch the film American Beauty- your comments remind me of the highly strung, homophobic Dad who fell to his knees in the garage scene. If you were more secure in your masculinity, then
other men being gay wouldn't bother you so greatly. You'd be so busy being happy dating women or being married to a woman instead of obsessing over hating Gay men. So what's your deal?
@@iociccio936 ok bot
A perfect description of SF🥰
@@iociccio936 lol ya weirdo
Honesty? You and me are using different dictionaries
Stephen fry is my favorite human being . He's not a national treasure , he's a global treasure that should be cherished .
He's a tiresome bloviating mouth vomit of nothing useful here
What I like about the interviewr, is how well prepared he is for his guests. He does his research on them and knows what to ask them. Also, he leaves them talking which is so rare in nowadays media.
Yea, I appreciate that too. Most interviewers cut in and don't even allow the guest to finish a thought. People want to hear what they have to say and the interviewers always feel like they have to redirect the conversation. That can be very annoying. I like how this gentleman simply allows Stephen to express all that he has to share. That's how interviews should be done! Let the guest speak! Ask questions when appropriate or when a thought is complete. No need to constantly interject. I wish this would catch on.
That's a very good point. I hate listening to interviews whereas speakers are continuously cut off almost as much as I hate being cut off while explaining something myself. I have learned that people who interrupt you always, without apology, just don't care about what you have to say, and therefore, are not worthy friends, and should be discarded as such.
He's very good at what he does. That was so interesting to watch! Great respect for both of them.
Agreed. The answers are why we’re listening and he can draw out great answers.
He doesn’t interact with the subject, so it feels like you’re watching an interrogation.
" Don't take my devils away because my angels will fly away aswell " - absolutely awesome
Well. I'd rather live the rest of my life without any demons, even if that meant there wouldn't be any angels as well. As long as my family and friends are alright, I don't care.
He doesn't believe in neither....so why throw out this quote..
Makes absolutely no sense at all though does it?
@@davekelley4076 what he is saying is that the depression and dark moments allow you to appreciate the good moments much better. You don't realize what you have until it's under threat of loss.
@@CADTE I know what he's saying. It's basic common sense. He's a bore.
If ever there was an argument against self harm,. suicide and depression, it would be the premature loss of a man such as Stephen Fry. Thankfully, for all of us, he survived and the rest is history.
I couldn't agree more. ❤
@@andreaknowles78 ❤
Nope. A premature loss of anyone in the world would be as strong an argument.
@sabbracadabra8367 Well clearly that didnt solve much, since that was hardly the end of his problems or suicide attempts. Cambridge merely saved him from going further down the criminal rabbit hole, and helped with his future career trajectory.
beautifully said!
Steven Fry! Our lives are so much better, for having you in them. ❤ Never forget that!
Who is steven?
I found Stephen over 10 years ago through QI on youtube and have been following him since. I can't get enough of this true Renaissance Man 💜💙💚💛🧡♥
Yes!
My 13 year old daughter has recently tried to commit suicide and we then found she had been cutting herself too. We don't think she is manic depressive as she doesn't seem to have the manic side but we are still waiting for doctors to get us an appointment. We have talked and we try to understand and be there, but it's easy to feel frustrated. Not because we don't care or feel angry at her, but because with all honesty we don't know how to take the sadness she feels and we feel frustrated and useless...and basically a failure as parents. So far, the best we can do is keep an eye on her, talk to her, accept how she feels and be there for her. And try to smile when all you want to do is cry inside. To all of you who are feeling depressed or are with someone who is- the warmest of hugs. Its tough 😪
If she happens to have naturally low serotonin at present, it's no more your fault than if she had naturally low insulin and was diabetic. We all have a 'weakest point' in our constitution.
And the cutting might not just be low self-esteem or even trying to make invisible mental pain visible physical pain. It can also be 'self medicating'. By triggering the flow of endorphins that provide BOTH types of pain relief. (Stroking and cuddling to produce oxytocin is also effective. Rubbing someone's back especially. That's why parents instinctively soothe babies that way.)
Diagnosis of bipolar can take time. Often depression is diagnosed first. And schizoaffective takes even longer. But be reassured. A lot of folk with any of these, get a medication mix that balances them for many years to a very good quality of life, full time job, study, marriage etc.
I pray things improve for you all.
So sorry you are all going through it. I assume you have looked into her social life and social media use? Kids are so good at hiding what is going on in their lives, and so sensitive to the smallest slight at this age, it is really scary what can cause them go off the rails sometimes.
I can't imagine what you're all going through. Sorry man!
Cyclothymic disorder sounds like an option but most people don’t know if it 😢
@@jamiebottomley1422 I don’t mean to be dismissive, but from what I read it sounds just like another case of pathologizing normal human states - normal ups and downs in mood. I mean, there is no other information about it other than a description of ‘symptoms’ as alternating moods - and how does have a steady mood??
This was truly glorious. I thought my life at boarding school was horrific at 8 and 9. I wanted to die. A few years later our lauandry maid the kindest lady in the the world, a Mrs Hurring, steared me into roller skating God bless her sweet soul. I became an Otago junior roller skating champion in figures aged 11. At 80 I will never forget her I adore Stephen. There is always a great life ahead if you meet the right people.
It was always the matrons that got us through the dark times 🙏🙏
@@iociccio936 did you really feel it beneficial to minimise someone else's contribution that they gave in celebration of survival over adversity?
Bless the Mrs Hurrings of this world. A child never forgets such kindness.
@Paul W.A I Lol'd but felt guilt.
@@iociccio936 Do you need someone to tell you where the CAPSLOCK is?
If you are pushing your religion or politics, a lot of people will be offended and annoyed. Tjis is not a place to preach your random beliefs that most people do not share - either religious OR political/social.
Stephen, do you think maybe real happiness comes from love. I am 87 years and lived a interesting and reasonably colourful life. Looking back I now realise the times I have felt the most joy was when I truly felt love, or maybe the word is empathy. I have sat quietly with nature, hearing, watching and feeling the beauty around me. I have felt the peace of my environment.
I have held my child in my arms fully aware of the touch, smell and sound of this beloved child. These are the moments I have been completely happy.
Now I am old my happiness is with the contentment I constantly feel. When my son hugs me goodbye and whispers “ love you, mum.” When either of my grandchildren greet me with a warm, tender smile and appear to enjoy an hour of my company. When my few close friends bother to spend time with me probably listening to stories I have repeated numerous times.
These are the things I value more than life itself, these are the things that make it all worthwhile.
Can't agree more. The ups and downs of my life have brought me to a place of peace. At 74 I'm at last content. Family is the rock we cling to.
I will not have children and I don’t have a spouse. I am 40, this didn’t happen by choice but by circumstance. I am worried for my future.. everyone says kids is what makes life worth living… that’s not my reality.
@@autotelicstate33kids or no, it’s best to cultivate friendships that will last for the long haul.
I think you have found the secret to love ❤
He is so eloquent. He speaks like written text, has incredible vocabulary, and has a deep understanding of language usage - absolutely stunning!
But he said nothing useful here
He’s a wonderful soul, an absolute joy to listen to. Reminder of the fragility of our humanity and equally the potential for hope.
He is a disgusting pervert
Well said 💕
Anyone who shuns god actively isn’t a beautiful soul
@@nordstrandmusicinternation9518 If your belief forces you to think Stephen Fry is an ugly soul, there might, just maybe, be your belief that is fucked up.
In none of the writings or talks I've seen of Fry does he "shun" god though, he simply doesn't believe in god. God being able to show Fry exactly what he would need to see to believe but not doing so is the one doing the shunning it seems to me.
Anyways, consider it. If your belief system makes you think Hitler is a better person than Fry based only on the virtue of Hitler being a believer, it might be time to think it over.
@@nordstrandmusicinternation9518 another religious fascist , we dont need a god were English , we have physics , evolutionary biology , geology , which all point to a world that requires no man made deities , coupled with humanism we have all any adult needs , i will take Stephen Fry over you any day , Stephen is a model Homosapien in deed and thought , unlike you and your stupid statement
I met this gorgeous man once at the Groucho Club in London.
I was shy, tongue tied and totally overawed by the people there.
He realised this at sat a chatted to me. He made me feel as though I was the only person in the room.
Thank you Mr Fry you sir are a darling.
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This is the great tragedy of depression. No matter how loved they are it doesn't help. This man is admired and even loved by millions, is wealthy and yet horrible depression still gets to him. Keep a close eye on your friends. I've lost one to this awful condition and none of us saw it coming. :-(
That's a very much needed message. I am told this again and again and I still say "Oh just cheer up, meditate, take a walk". It's not good enough. We need to be there for them, completely and without judgement. xxx
So very true! 🙇
@@drhintjens4915 very true.
@ChoppingtonOtter Very true I lost my beloved younger brother to suicide. He carefully hid his condition and planned his end, writing a long letter and leaving his affairs in order. It was brutal to those of us left behind.
Depression is awful. I hate it, yet really struggle myself.
It affects everything in your world, much like chronic pain.
I remember watching his Secret Life of the Manic Depressive just after I was diagnosed, and it was revelatory. I'm glad both of us are still here.
I didn't know this, I've had bipolar since around 10 or 12 years of age. 60ys old now. My son, who loves Stephen Fry, has recently shown signs and symptoms of bipolar. When I see him next, I try to have him watch with me. Thank you
Just think of how many people he's helped by simply sharing those stigmatized things! It baffles me that people can sit in these comment fields and talk about how the guy is evil through and through because their religions of peace and love tells them so. Very glad it helped you as it has helped so many others.
I love Stephen. He brought me and my father together, it sounds strange but my dad was so distant. As I got older, I came into the room and saw dad watching Stephen in Blackadder. That was the start. We watched everything he was in together. Then we watched/listened to all of his speeches together and discussed them. It helped us bond before dad died. I'm forever grateful
I love Stephen Fry, his fragility and emotional intellligence make him even more attractive , so bright and articulate, he would be one of my dinner party guests 😀
Would the dinner be a fry?
Brilliant comment In my opinion.
Also, the fact the you never get the feeling he's talking down to you.
💯 at my table too
You and the rest of the world!
I could listen to Stephen talk for years. What an incredible man.
me too! ah
Which one?
Me too... His voice is so soothing
My ex husband who was an actor told me to tell Stephen Fry that he should write a book about the daily life of living as a homosexual and all the nuances. As it would be great to hear about this in more detail. Like who cookd and who does what. So please tell him. Im a painter and I know the artistic temparent.
I love him, adored his comedy and still watch it now!
As someone that's suffering physically mentally, I myself feel so lost and neglected. I hope anyone that is feeling this way finds the light.
Your comment reminded me of this song. Hope is the light that we all need. Things will get better.
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Watching this during a depressive episode has been a genuine salve. Stephen Fry manages to put into words the complexities of bi-polar disorder. The knowledge that it will pass is what I’m clinging to at the moment. Thank you Stephen for being such a understandable voice for our ‘situation’ in life. You are much loved.
I don't believe he has bipolar disorder. I think he just likes the idea of having it because it's mysterious and sexy.
Your unique, did you ever feel that's a gift from God?
@@transamination he has talked about having it and has articulated manic episodes in detail. It’s not sexy.
@@vb1816 Yeah I just think he's faking it.
@@transamination Bye.
This is one of the most professional podcasts I have listened to. You really let the guest shine to their fullest. How it flows is just magnificent. Well done! :)
@@iociccio936 Your myths held can leave town dude troll.
Boring.
With Fry, all you have to do is let him talk :)
@@iociccio936 you obviously have a very difficult time letting an acknowledged national British treasure who is exceptionally talented in various fields discuss his own humanity because he is gay. If he had the skills as well as the problems he developed but had been straight, you apparently would have a completely different reaction
@@iociccio936 Sorry, I simply don’t pay attention to arguments that have homophobia as the core
had the EXACT same thought. well done!
My dad was a RAF pilot. He flew Spitfires. And Stephen is completely right. The war ended, and every day after that, until his death in 2005 was chopped liver. He struggled with depression and finding meaning and purpose his entire life. Very very sad.
I wrote about the history of Malta. Spitfires were one of the very nec. things that helped save Malta from total destruction. War is horrible & it destroys people no matter what "side" they fight for. I'm so sorry for your father.
How interesting, did you ever work out the connection before Stephen talked about or was listening to this podcast make it click into place.?
@@lynnbishop9493 I had made the connection, but I was very interested to hear that Mr. Fry had made the same connection.
My dad was the same. He was a navigator with the RAF and after the war, came home and was hit with complete total depression. He struggled the rest of his life.
How I respect this man. I’m a trauma warrior who failed two suicidal events. As I am healing I’m relieved I was successful at surviving. 70 here and send MR Fry applause in his growth and support to keep making this world a better place because he is in it. He is brilliant and so insightful. I love the metaphor your hear the hooves of the horses coming. My experience came with my body being on fire on the inside and I thought I’d implode. Imploding actually was the panic attack that you are convinced each time that your brain is melting and you’re having a heart attack and then lights out on the worst ones. Live and healing diminishing the drama.
I came back to applaud you, the intelligent interviewer, who has the wisdom to give his guest the precious time to share his story without interference. Some interviewers like to hear themselves talk. Thank you for gifting us with giving dear Mr. Fryes his time to tell his story.
He is an inspiration.
bless you. i hope you are well.x
Listen on RUclips to bukowski’s“ The laughing heart “ . I was raised by a mother who was lobotomised when I was a child . My life was traumatic to say the least , constant anxiety and misery . Her life was worse ! . ........This poem I have memorised and repeat to myself often
Wonderful that you are healing. Life is so precious and we are here a short while. I now try to live on the sunny side of the street, so to speak. I focus on the happy things, though if anyone I love is suffering I do find it difficult. ❤️
@@heleneocleary5888 ❤️
I think Stephen Fry is a kind of wonderful combo of Oscar Wilde and Socrates. As someone who has also had severe trouble with their mental health I am presumptuous enough to think of him as a friend even though I have never met him. Thank you Stephen Fry. You rock!
Your post is enigmatic! The honestly is priceless.
we'll create a society Friends of Fry!
I often think about what the world/people/me would be like had I been taught Stoicism and or the like. Atm I'm learning it, Seneca etc and its helping me so much! Better late than never. Great video!!🙂
I felt the same way. He seems like a old friend.
His secret life of a manic depressive. You helped me get better.
It is extraordinary how sad such a successful person is… Me myself, had a rugby accident, that left me paralysed from my neck down, at 18. I’m 55 now and have always found “my” happiness from loving and being loved by those around me. Its hard and took me a long time, but the joy and laughter I’ve found through my family, wife, health care workers, friends or however, is where I recharge or thrive and am so glad of it….
I am in awe of anyone, not unlike yourself, who has been able to overcome such incredibly difficult personal circumstances that would cause most situational depression. Your ability to choose to overcome it through loving relationships is quite admirable. By contrast, clinical depression rooted in a biological illness of the brain affecting mood (Bipolar disorder in this instance) is typically not overcome by an act of the will no more so than you might be able to choose to stand and walk should you have the right positive attitude.
Imagine being condemned or shamed for not being able to will yourself to do so.
Respectfully speaking, that is the equivalent to confusing one's reasons to be grateful and happy in their life circumstances with their brain's capacity to produce neurotypical mood with an organic brain illness with which one does not suffer. I am not suggesting that you are implying such. Rather, I mean only to highlight the difference that most miss.
You, Franco are amazing!
I love that Steven allows his guests to speak uninterrupted. Very refreshing. Great Podcast, as usual 🤗
@@iociccio936 You really have something against SF. Why would u troll something you didn’t like. What is the purpose?
Homophobic.
The way Stephen articulates mental health issues is always ever so insightful. Could listen to him talk forever.
What a wonderful person. At the age of 68, I've just been diagnosed with ADHD, and possible/probable bi-polar disorder. It's been a challenging 68 years, and now I'm doing my best to adjust my perspective on my life. How amazingly gratifying to learn that I share many experiences with none other than Stephen Fry. It gives me hope and reassurance. I thank you and him sincerely for this interview. I feel so lucky to have found it. I have subscribed to your channel(?) and will read The Body Holds the Score, and look for more of Stephen's thoughts on the subject of mental health. Much love and gratitude. ❤ P.S. I love his comment on the execrable Piers Morgan.
The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Van Der Kolk is such an excellent book. Life changing, it makes the case very well for the benefits of bodily creative expression, whether that be dance, song, theater or yoga. We were made to move in expressive ways. 🕺🏼
So you want to be an unhealthy man that denounces God?
@@TruthSeeker-rn1tmI doubt he wants to be a self-righteous judge of his fellow man🤷🏻♀️ When you know the acceptance the Father has for you as _you_ are, you can’t help but look at others with the same acceptance and treat them with the same grace☝️
@@HopeUnquenchableInteresting comment about an atheist.
@@TruthSeeker-rn1tmBend off you sparkling thunderbussy.
I could listen to this conversation all day. Stephen Fry’s existence almost makes up for…well…everything. Love him so much.
He's a national treasure.
ditto
What a mind that man has! Fry is wonderful, warm, wise, intelligent and funny. Thank you for producing this great interview.
Yeah, I thought of the movie title, “A Beautiful Mind”. ❤️
I am an artist. Today I was able to concentrate and be relaxed as I was listening to this wonderful interview. I’ve always loved Stephen fry and ,I’ve him even more now. My 24 year old daughter recommended I listen to you. I am 52. Congratulations and thanks from the bottom of my heart for what you have taught me (especially with Mo and Alli) Tara swart…. I’m an avid Huel drinker after my gym work out. I’ve just been through 2 years of hand therapy as I injured my artist hands. Have recently been diagnosed with spinal stenosis. In younger years, a dance floor queen. Your podcast has not only got me through my transformation but made me a better and happier person. Not sure I’d change much actually . Thankyou 🙏
Wow!! That's fantastic! I'm so happy for you, your daughter has great taste too. Glad to hear you can do your art again. It's often hard for me to concentrate but podcasts help me, even meditation before I try to do a task that requires focus.
Look after yourself and I'm so happy for you!❤❤
A sobering and honest example of how fragile we all are, despite our levels of perception of success - A voice we should all hear and remember his words
Insight into a bipolar brain. He is an important voice for people who share his illness, which is like having your brain hijacked by an unrelenting terrorist squad. It’s hard to articulate it, and even the best psychiatrists have no idea what it’s like unless they’ve lived it. He’s my hero.
Wonderfully put,
Thank you
Very well put. Remarkable how fragile we all are.
But we must all play our part. However that looks.
@@iociccio936 you are very hateful
@@vb1816 That is so true. And he is a lesson in humility - a forgotten virtue in this age of dynamism and pride.
One of the most intelligent interviewers I have ever seen. You gave them space to talk and when it stalled right in there with a spot on question. SOLD
@@iociccio936 still here? I wonder why!
37 right now, experiencing that "lost, alone and I wanted to take my life", and I badly need this stories of recovery. Stephen Fry is a gift to humankind.
30 and feeling the same.
32 and have been living in isolation for 12 yrs since i left school. Now my grandma is dying and my mom is sick and i feel so alone and hopeless i just want to end it all
Let life surprise you. It won't be static, and in my experience things tend to just happen. Sometimes for the better.
Definitely one of my favourite episodes.didnt want it to end. I could listen to him talk forever. Such an exceptional mind. ❤️
@@iociccio936
Like your bitchy little comments?
I love Stephen Fry, the man is an incredible human being.
He's just a dude.
@@TruthSeeker-rn1tmSit! You uncultered plebeian!
How can you not love Stephen, so brutally honest, funny, humble. Truly a national treasure.
Humble? Stephen Fry??
I love Stephen Fry. He is unapologetically himself. So inspiring, creative, and self-deprecating. I find his life story, and indeed his storytelling, quite riveting. I too have a love of language ❤️✨️✨️✨️🤗
@@iociccio936
Why are you shouting dear boy we can read you loud and clear 😉
@@tourbillon13 indeed!🤣🤣
Love the mind of this man and his gentle and empathetic character. Listened and watched hundreds of hours of his "expressions". Tremendous human.
His mind is a sick sewer of depravity
I absolutely adore Stephen Fry. He is the most humble, honest, caring, and wonderful human being. I have never heard anything leave his mouth, which is disrespectful or derogatory towards anyone.
A wonderful human being!!!!
I love Stephen Fry, I discovered him in the 80’s his humour and Acting is Brilliant his spoken word work is excellent and his film of depression was absolutely ground breaking and comforting . I could listen to this all evening , he’s so down to earth, so real. He gives hope to everyone. A beautiful Soul indeed.
A beautiful mind, a wonderful man...a genius never to be replicated.
@@iociccio936 you obviously love trolling.
@@iociccio936 hit the nail on the head, he feels free to absolutely condemn those he doesn’t believe in, if we didn’t have the internet he wouldn’t appear to be so clever
@@iociccio936 Thank God for that.
@@iociccio936 are You ill?
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What a wonderful wonderful human being. Im so glad he is still with us. ❤
Outstanding interview. As someone who suffers immensely with mental health this resonates so much. Lovely man.💙💙💙
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My place of recovery! From a funny little Spanish man, great fan of him for some time.
I have loved Steven since I first saw him with Hugh Laurie in the Bertie Wooster and Jeeves series, which is truly marvelous, for anyone who hasn’t seen it. I hope he continues to be around. Thank you, Mr Fry, for being you.
I just love the way Steven just let's the guests tell their stories, And the quality of guests is just amazing.
Mr Fry is a unbelievable man
And should be 'also' + 'an' unbelievable man is a Paradox in this Context!?
Stephen has always been beyond his years , and an empath to the core . We question everything and express ourselves through words , and expression , arts etc . Its a heavy load to carry because of the years of trauma from different aspects of our lives . I love your vlog , its so natural and calm . Love from Ireland .
How judgemental!
@@iociccio936You're spouting Russian/Putin propaganda hate mongering. Why are you even watching the interview if it "offends" you so? Or is Putin paying you to spread misinformation and hatred at one of his many Troll Farms?
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Who hurt you, poor thing?
Stephen talks and I'm all ears. Always. Thank you for this interview, Steven and Stephen.
I’ve struggled with mental health most of my life. Major depressive episodes, panic attacks, ptsd, generalized anxiety, discomfort in larger groups(sometimes as little as 2 or more). It is very lonely. I’ve struggled with finding the right medication/s, therapist, doctors. Most people don’t understand. I’ve been told to let it go, get over it, pray for it to go away. I had a friend that was bipolar (manic depressive). We both had our particularly nasty moments with the people we cared for, including each other. But we loved each other and always had an ear for the other. Last October, the day before her birthday, she died of a brain aneurysm. I miss her so much. I’ve been listening to Stephen Fry lectures, sketches, clips for a few days now and it’s made me lighter than I’ve been for some time. Thank you Stephen for your bravery, kindness, sense of humor and love for your fellow humans. We need more people like you.
"I don't know what I'm talking about but I'm having fun". Listening to Stephen is always a delight, a journey and a glimpse into what I ask of my friends in conversations.
As someone who suffers from depression and has attempted suicide seriously at least once, I discovered my way to deal with depression was to do something, anything, physical. Something as simple as mopping the floors or, in fact, going for a walk. There must be chemicals the body produces when undetaking some sort of activity that help fight the chemicals the create the depression. 'Just go for a walk' is certainly something that works for me and it may just work for others who suffer from depression. Perhaps just don't go for a walk near a cliff or over a bridge :) I agree totally with Stephen about it being difficult or impossiblt to discuss mental illness with family because in my experience, they simply want to deny it. It is only when somebody takes action and causes themsevles harm that the recriminations begin. All the time you hear stories about people who have comitted suicide and the families are saying things like, 'Why didn't he reach out and say something.' I can pretty much guarantee that most people who have taken their own lives have tried reaching out for help many, many times before taking the final step. Others were simply in denial or just completely misunderstood the cries for help...
I would agree. I think its a matter of achieving 'something', no matter how small & trivial.
So absolutely correct with your comments, because of shunning so many have failed to be heard when all they needed was a genuine empathetic ear. I support #mentalhealthawareness 💙
My husband has a physical job. He rarely has a long weekend but when he does, he will get depressed after about 2 days if he doesn't do some hard work of some kind.
Any physical movement produces endorphins. Maybe not as much as runners get addicted to, but enough to ensure captive animals pace up and down, institutionalised people rock back and forth, and so yes, physical movement can keep just enough endorphins flowing to take the edge off the mental pain.
The distraction aspect of being grounded in 'action' helps to break the cyclical thinking too. That's also what mindfulness relies on.
Some people who self-harm also do so because they've learned that the physical pain of the non-life threatening injury triggers endorphin pain-relief in a similar way. It's a multi-purpose painkiller similar to morphine and acts on a lot of systems.
Same way that serotonin is triggered by digestion (comfort eating) AND accumulated by SSRI anti-depressants.
The physical exercise also uses up adrenaline and lowers stress. We're designed to fight-or-flight for survival, not sit there worrying and ruminating for months.
And outdoor walking adds nature, which is soothing to our senses.
Stephen Fry is always so frank, open and honest ...it's really refreshing... he literally leaves no stone unturned and opens up unashamedly every interview, I really admire him
So I’m about the same age as Stephen and every time I hear him talk about this subject I identify. It’s been a struggle for me staying alive through these years. Best of luck to anybody out there in the same situation.
It was my 50th Birthday Yesterday, I don’t like fuss, I do and Have totally struggled with my Mental Health, So at my Party I wasn’t just celebrating my Birthday, I was Celebrating Staying Here for 50 years!! I don’t know how I got here, but I Am still here! I do feel thankful but on the flip side I Am a bit Unsure how long my life will be! 💖
@@MrZanderLaw happy belated birthday, I hope your doing ok and have many happy, healthy years ahead of you.
And to the original poster, best of luck to you too.
I hope your doing well both.
One of the greatest honest actors of our time, an authentic guy, loved this interview.....Takes me back to 80's when I used to watch BLACKADDER........... Thanks so much for this episode.
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I have probably watched this specific episode at least over 30 times since it came out last year. Finally I’m writing a comment to put into words how incredible this episode was. As an avid podcast listener of all types and kinds this has somehow turned into my comfort episode to listen to when I have nothing. Stephen Fry really is not only so beautifully honest and transparent he is also so eloquent and smart. Truly genius. Feel like I have so much to learn from him and feel like every time I listen to him my conversating and reasoning skills just improve. This is supposed to be a sad podcast but one that I always leans on in how rational while also being empathetic he is. Makes me want to be smarter and improve my vocabulary and as someone who was 22 first time hearing this it really has been a part of my growth in my outlook on life in the past few years. This immediately caused me to go on a Stephen Fry talks/interview binge plus he really is someone I would one day just love to speak to about literally anything in the world as I guarantee it would be interesting. He really has such a unique aura and power of keeping you transfixed and someone that you really want to know everything about and all their views on random bits of life. I know I’ll end up adding to this later on throughout my life in replies but seriously what a truly beautiful episode.
I only meant to have a glance at this.. An hour and 35 minutes later, my coffee is cold, and my soul is satiated.
Brilliant interview, you asked the right questions, and stayed out of his way. Very well done
Same, and its too late to go shop for some lunch. But Stephen gave me some wonderful images, thoughts and tools for life, so thats ok.
@@iociccio936 hahahahahaha...are you ok?
@@iociccio936 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA....no
My thoughts exactly 💙💙💙🙏🙏
@@iociccio936 good luck
I don't know if you read the comments Stephen, but I search for your videos when I'm stressed. The sound of your voice is the most calming thing I have EVER heard. Please know you're loved and wanted/needed in this world.
Same, I put these on to fall asleep to in the background, I find his voice so soothing!
I can confirm! Stephen is a shining example of what the world needs. If Stephen were to ever meet himself, he’d never know suffering again.
Dear Stephen and Stephen, what a delightful conversation. Thanks for having us!
Stephen is always a delight.I could listen to him all day long. I hope he makes more documentaries on various topics . My 13 year old son has just discovered Harry potter being narrated by Mr fry on audible and its the first time he's been able to enjoy a book as he has severe dyslexia. He says you are the best storyteller thank you.
Oh my! Never want to lose Stephen Fry in an untimely manner, especially after learning more about him through this interview. I hope to meet him one day. His world of ideas is. a gift to us all
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I am 63 and you have described my hole life, I’ve been on meds for 22 years, this round but have felt this way since childhood, I have a psychologist but have not seen her for 3 years . Too hard to act positive . My mum is 94 and that is why I am still here, I could never hurt her by hurting myself, thank you for helping me understand psi so much more
So sorry to read about how you feel. I so understand. Luckily I've been able to "come back" through therapists and meds... but I am aware I'm not 100% but I am happy I don't have that horrible, helpless feeling. I hope you find some solace.
How are you doing now? Watching Eckhart Tolle videos always seems to help me when I'm feeling low. Sending lots of love and light ❤️✨️
Fry is one of the greatest treasures. I sincerely hope he’s found his peace and happiness
@@iociccio936 you described the most perfect and glorious type of person so of course I would call him the greatest treasure. Probably one of the only people my country can be PROUD of
In my last job of 10 years, now retired, I was always honest with my colleagues about my depression and asked that they tell me if they saw something wrong. As a benefit I made so many friends and was approached by many who were struggling at some point.
Good on you to create such a gem of an interview. Stephen is a role model to every open minded person on the planet.
Thanks so much for your self disclosure Stephen
I'm a mental health practitioner in N. I.
and having someone as brave as you really gives people the confidence to come forward and get help with issues they may experiencing.
We are trying our best to normalise mental health issues so the stigma will hopefully no longer be a block to people seeking help
Thanks again
stephen fry might be the best human to have ever graced this space rock we call home. So charming, down to earth, intellegent and wise. I praise him highly
I have a niece who has a bipolar diagnosis. Listening to Stephen made me think about my reactions to her in both her manic and depressive phases. To my shame I sometimes become frustrated with what are trivial issues at those times. His eloquence in describing both the depths and the highs of his experiences moved me. I wish I knew him as a friend
Stephen Fry is authentic & honest. His openness about his struggles with mental health are to be admired. Very much enjoyed this one.
Thank you for listening Ruth! Glad you enjoyed this one
As someone who also has bipolar disorder I can confirm sometimes your emotional states don't always match the persons circumstances. When Stephen talked about wanting die after the play despite being a successful person was relatable. I have had so many times in my life where I have felt deeply depressed and hopeless even though my circumstances were fine, or manic and unable to sleep when nothing was different in my life. It's hard to put into words how confusing it is to not be able to trust your own emotions. Really enjoyed the BBC series he was in (about this topic) too.
Such an intelligent, funny, open man. I am from Romania, but I've loved him since I saw the first sketches of Fry and Laurie. Would be nice to see them together now, reminiscing on shared adventures. I just discovered this channel, while I was searching for sketches of Fry. Very nice podcast, very articulate host, allows the guest to speak and listens politely. I subscribed :-)
Amazing ❤
There is a 4 part reunion of the two of them on RUclips!
I love the fact that so many of your guests are older people - I think I'm a year younger than you, so most people are still older people by our standards! - but seriously, the advice they are able to offer from their position of lives well-lived and paths well-trodden, to people of our generation, is invaluable.
I have covered the right side of my face, then taken a photo. And mirrored it. Same with left side. It was like photos of two different people. Or a good twin and evil twin. I did this in response to some magazine article I had read about the differences in our faces and symmetry and sanity.
It was shocking to me. As of gotten older and had more therapy, I've learned to live with those two sides of myself. But it's terrifying sometimes when you feel the darkness dominate your life. This interview by Stephen is so enlightening. And encouraging . Bravo. Thank you.
What part was enlightening?
He is a absolute treasure, full of wisdom and kind enough to share, making the world a better place 💖
A wonderfully articulate man. There is a type of sadness that comes with this type of intelligence.
I LOVE Stephen Fry. Just fantastic and so honest and aware.
I remember when, Steven did a documentary on himself.... being diagnosed with bipolar! My Heart broke for him! ✌🏻✌🏻🤟🏻🤟🏻
I love Stephen Fry so much. I didn't know a lot of the experiences he spoke about. His use of the phrase "what's the point" is exactly it, that really hit home. It's that exact phrase.
I love Stephen. He's so intelligent and makes me so happy to listen to him.
Going trhough a depression right now. It was a pleasure to hear Stephen Fry.
😌💕ditto.
Remember you are enough xxx
💪🧠💕🙋♂️ Nathan
Take care it will pass
@@stevo988 that's possibly the worst words to use.
This conversation has such a wonderful combination of spontaneity and depth!
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This is probably the best interview I have seen on RUclips. I could have listened for another hour or more. Thank You x
I was at that Saturday night performance of Cell Mates. A 23-year-old Kiwi in London, I was awestruck seeing two of my comedy idols together on stage. I was so worried about Stephen when I read the next day that he had disappeared. I'm relieved he got help and went on to do so much good in the world.
@@iociccio936WHAT GOOD HAVE YOU DONE EXCEPT GIVE YOUR CAPSLOCK KEY A GOOD WORKOUT?!
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I certainly remember the TV coverage.
The headlines about the play, being shown. The images of the abandoned car. The concern that he may have drowned himself in the sea.
The suddenness of it, but also my complete lack of surprise. His depression had been visible, but only close up.
As he says in the interview, look at the eyes. That episode of Jeeves and Wooster only a few months before (about either monogrammed hankies or silk socks). Not sure how long before that was recorded, but depression can take a while to build. The camera zooms in close and for once the eyes don't match the supposed Jeeves character.
It was both eyes though. May have been more obvious in his left eye, I can't remember that detail?
What a lovely, intelligent and wise man. I suffer too with mental health and can relate to everything he spoke about. Please have him talk again sometime x
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Absolutely love this man, his bravery and positivity is a lesson for everyone who has visited dark times and come out the other side, brilliant interview
I do indeed concur that there comes a point where one begins to ask "what's the point"?. I suffered from unimaginable sadness for nearly 7 years, following an abusive relationship. I lost all my self confidence. Since July of this year I have been feelg like I am coming out the other side, and it's thanks to a mixture of therapy, focusing on a project, and listening to podcasts that have been the contributing factors.
Stephen, you have made millions of lives including mine a little better and a little more complete, thank you.
Stephen Fry is a wonderful man.
Thank you for bringing Stephen in front of us on your podcast. His descriptive powers, story telling and humble personality makes this man, truly one of the greatest people to listen to.
And now you’ve got one of my favorite entertainers and biggest idols on the podcast! How the hell are you getting such great guests?!
Let me know what you think of this one!
I have to say this was fantastic! You asked great questions and Stephen wasn’t afraid to be honest in answering them. It might be my favourite podcast you’ve done so far. Thanks Steven for the great conversations you’re letting us witness.
To answer your question! The more you guys engage and subscribe, the better the guests get so thank you!
What a humble, compassionate, courageous and intelligent human being!
How can I love a person whom I've never met before this much? Stephen Fry... you are a beautiful and inspiring human being and I wish I could be 10% of you when I grow up! Bearing in mind I'm almost 50! Still growing.
This is one of the nicest talks on the interwebs I have ever experienced.
Fry obviously had a wonderful time. The interviewer wasn't intrusive, but asked the right questions at the right time.
Fry is a gem.
I love his analogy about the storms in your head and the reality of the weather...such a nice way to help others understand that don't suffer with mental illness. Such an interesting podcast, thank you.
I'm so inspired by his incredible mind. He has the type of brain which allows him to recall, evaluate and analyse events, people and thoughts in an academic context which is still able to be understood by many.
He says a big regret is not having children. He would have been a wonderful father & grandfather. THAT would have changed everything - simply gives meaning to life. He would have raised a beloved, accepted for who they are, human being. Heart breaks for him💔Stephen should have had several little ones, gathered round Granddad’s knee, listening to his stories in awe.
@@iociccio936 you really love him so much don't you? You simply can't bear to scroll on, can you?
Mr B, you get the very best out of your interviewees by letting them talk and being yourself. What a gift 💚
@@iociccio936 what is your problem with Stephen Fry?
Stephen Fry’s stories and knowledge has saved me in every which way it can, a national treasure
The guy we all want as a neighbour.....kind, gentle and generous
Speak for yourself. I wouldn't want him anywhere near me.
Twisted? How do you mean? I think he’s got a very beautiful view. Also it’s so cute that you added the earth emoji after “WORLD”.
@@iociccio936 OH SHUT UP YOU TROLL!
You would have to be careful if you have a young son, brother or husband - he might try to seduce them and have sex with them.
People love to judge wow some perfect people i'n this world that are so perfect they have the time to fix others .