Why are we simply accepting that we have to keep manually changing the dlss version from the ancient one that they include?? It's an insult that Asobo keeps including this prehistoric version in their updates all the time. So much for having a dedicated VR team there. It's ridiculous!
@@VRFlightSimGuyabsolutely. Your help is very much appreciated. But it is seriously ridiculous. We shouldn't have to be tweaking all the time. This is one example where all they had to do was repack the new file in their installer. Do they not know about the new dlss version? How can they be using such an old version? What does it say about their dev team? We shouldnt have to pay $200 to still install dlss swappers... It's laughable and insulting. But thanks Steve. Appreciate your content.
First world problems though, it takes less time to update than it does to watch the video, not the end of the world. A good reminder for all though Steve to have a check after each update, its easy enough to forget these kinds of things so we'll worth the heads up.
I think DLSS isn't free, maybe their license just asks for a substantial fee to update like with other software license contracts. When the user does it, it's a mod and they are not liable.
Don't you think that you're just expecting too much from Microsoft? They weren't even prepared for the release date. There's a lot of features that MS could bring within MSFS install pack; however, since there's market to do so, they simply don't do - in this case, you have to buy it separately. That's the truth.
What the hell why don't they update to the latest dlss is it because each dlss version is millions of dollars and they got the old version on sale for their game
I guess we have different opinions about what is perfect performance.. way too low frame rates for me. But then again, maybe it depends on what headset you have and resolution it has. DLSS look good on my Pimax Crystal and Crystal light. And gives way better performance than TAA.
@@rotormannRotormann. I literally upgraded to the WHOPPING 4090 because of lack of frame rate on my Crystal Light. Whew, that was both arms and a leg! anyways, I, too have given up the ghost and have fallen into DLSS evilness because of lack of frame rate even after getting the 4090. anyways, I agree 100% with your comment. (RTX4090 24Vram, 32DDR-Ram, 14900CPU, with PCieSSDcard running everything, I feel like I've done all I can do hardware-wise). If only I could somehow improve my landings with the stupid Skyhawk 172!?! Is it me or am I the only one who feels like smooth stable landings are way, way harder in the 172 then 2020? (yes, I've decreased the sensitivity on my rudder pedals, also yes, my online bandwith is fine). JEEZ!
Hi Steve, I think you should inform your public by changing the DLSS config to preset F with the dllstweaks program. I didn’t know that this could make such a big impact on clarity as PCL user. Please fiddle around self first, but I think you have to agree with me on this one.
@@rogermeier6377 it’s like the old, unrendered trees from 2020 are getting over written with the new trees from 2024. Percy Thrower will be turning in his grave 🤪
@@VRFlightSimGuy Yes, that's right. Hopefully they don't let the gap between versions become that big anymore. Personally I'm a bit sceptical using DLSS versions which are not included in the game, because they're obviously not tested and could potentially cause issues (read of issues from some people).
This is only for Nvidia GPU peeps. So talk to 2025 me next time ;-) I still find it strange peeps need to do this swapping and that this is not default in Nvidia's new App GIU. But again, thanks to you they know.
mate can you advise what FPS counter is on your screen ? (small green font in the centre of screen).....i accidently turned that on somewhere on my PC...and i cant for the life of me remember where to turn it off.
There is a developer mode that can be activated. I can't remember which menu it's under, but once it's on, there is a small menu that pops up when in the sim. There is a section to turn off the fps somewhere. Sorry I can't be more help. I'm currently at work.
I have simple test scenario. I had just ran the test before the update, and repeated it exactly same way after. I lost 7-8 fps :( Which was enough to make my motion smoothing stop working :(
Hey Steve love the content but can we tone the over the top titles it’s a change over for DLSS not some risk of catching plague if we don’t watch the vid 😂
Ok what nvidia driver version to use with msfs 2020 i’m not sure if it’s the driver or Pimax but in the middle of my gameplay the headset wants to disconnect and reconnect. I know when it’s going to happen because I can hear my computer go off the connect and disconnect sound with my VR headset on and then it will freeze for a minute and then come back on. So maybe it’s the driver can you please give me a driver version for 2020 and also waiting for Pimax to update the Pimax play? It’s been a while since they did an update unless you own a crystal light. OK, thanks buddy.
I dont have flight sim and haven't flown real aircraft for a long time...those google map blue pointers showing buildings and locations are not real life things we see flying , can that be turned off and would it improve frame rate? Cheers.
am having probs in seting up my controls with 2024 its a pain i have a thrustmaster TCA yoke and throttle but still cant get it working right i was in the activaties on the fuchal porchgle and it will not throttle down on the throttle in lots of them i cant is there bugs in this still
Hallo Steve, ich habe das Update installiert, aber die dlss Datei wurde nicht geändert. Auch nach dem Update hatte ich die dlss 3.8.10. Auch nach mehrmaligem Neustart der Sim.
Not if you know what you're doing.. I've found out how to use dlss tweaks and enable Ultra Quality ruclips.net/video/TFbskVLP6Ks/видео.htmlsi=ruHTRXodCT9q65T3
I keep trying fs2024 in vr but even with TAA it still looks rubbish compared to fs2020, it just doesnt have the clarity of 2020, its like there is a haze or something, 2020 is gorgeous and has years of use ahead in my opinion, we didnt need fs2024
Why are we simply accepting that we have to keep manually changing the dlss version from the ancient one that they include?? It's an insult that Asobo keeps including this prehistoric version in their updates all the time. So much for having a dedicated VR team there. It's ridiculous!
I agree. But least we have RUclipsrs like myself who can help :)
@@VRFlightSimGuyabsolutely. Your help is very much appreciated. But it is seriously ridiculous. We shouldn't have to be tweaking all the time. This is one example where all they had to do was repack the new file in their installer. Do they not know about the new dlss version? How can they be using such an old version? What does it say about their dev team? We shouldnt have to pay $200 to still install dlss swappers... It's laughable and insulting. But thanks Steve. Appreciate your content.
Just because is new, it does not mean it works well. I have jaggies everywhere using DLSS 3.0 dill file. It introduced too many artifacts.
First world problems though, it takes less time to update than it does to watch the video, not the end of the world. A good reminder for all though Steve to have a check after each update, its easy enough to forget these kinds of things so we'll worth the heads up.
I think DLSS isn't free, maybe their license just asks for a substantial fee to update like with other software license contracts. When the user does it, it's a mod and they are not liable.
OOOooohhh !!! Good👍 job for the audio translate (fr).
Strangely for me the dlss file is not swapped by the update. But always good to check.
same for me
Great you reminded us all ...Steve 👍
Thanks for the reminder. I actually had forgotten
3060ti, DLSS seems to give me the best performance. Thanks, I wondered why the update looked worse!
Why doesn't MS just add the new file in the update?
Because they can't make a real flight simulator, they have to make a tweak simulator
Don't you think that you're just expecting too much from Microsoft? They weren't even prepared for the release date. There's a lot of features that MS could bring within MSFS install pack; however, since there's market to do so, they simply don't do - in this case, you have to buy it separately. That's the truth.
What the hell why don't they update to the latest dlss is it because each dlss version is millions of dollars and they got the old version on sale for their game
VR performance tanked for me after the update. What was passable on medium settings is now unplayable on low settings.
I've stopped using DLSS as the displays are terrible. Still get perfect performance on TAA, thx for the vid though Steve 👍🏻
same
No problem 👍
I guess we have different opinions about what is perfect performance.. way too low frame rates for me. But then again, maybe it depends on what headset you have and resolution it has. DLSS look good on my Pimax Crystal and Crystal light. And gives way better performance than TAA.
@@rotormann Ditto that for the Pimax 8KX.
@@rotormannRotormann. I literally upgraded to the WHOPPING 4090 because of lack of frame rate on my Crystal Light. Whew, that was both arms and a leg! anyways, I, too have given up the ghost and have fallen into DLSS evilness because of lack of frame rate even after getting the 4090. anyways, I agree 100% with your comment. (RTX4090 24Vram, 32DDR-Ram, 14900CPU, with PCieSSDcard running everything, I feel like I've done all I can do hardware-wise). If only I could somehow improve my landings with the stupid Skyhawk 172!?! Is it me or am I the only one who feels like smooth stable landings are way, way harder in the 172 then 2020? (yes, I've decreased the sensitivity on my rudder pedals, also yes, my online bandwith is fine). JEEZ!
It helps me the most to stop frame generation stuttering
Hi Steve, I think you should inform your public by changing the DLSS config to preset F with the dllstweaks program. I didn’t know that this could make such a big impact on clarity as PCL user. Please fiddle around self first, but I think you have to agree with me on this one.
I'm planning to have a look at this soon. Thx for reminding me :)
Is anybody else experiencing those rectangle trees? This looks so bad, it is stopping me from using it...
Yep. I was flying around Florida and seeing many of the trees as obelisks with images of palm trees on the sides of them. lol Crazy.
@@rogermeier6377 it’s like the old, unrendered trees from 2020 are getting over written with the new trees from 2024. Percy Thrower will be turning in his grave 🤪
yesterday i used vr, horrible miami trees and 30 fps
WIth the latest patch MFS2024 has DLSS version 3.7.xx. So it's no longer an ancient 2.x version included, the swapper is not really needed anymore.
I've still updated mine to 3.8 and no doubt, there will be newer versions coming.
@@VRFlightSimGuy Yes, that's right. Hopefully they don't let the gap between versions become that big anymore. Personally I'm a bit sceptical using DLSS versions which are not included in the game, because they're obviously not tested and could potentially cause issues (read of issues from some people).
When I updated the DLSS did not get downgraded. It seems to vary for different folks. Worth checking though.
This is only for Nvidia GPU peeps. So talk to 2025 me next time ;-) I still find it strange peeps need to do this swapping and that this is not default in Nvidia's new App GIU. But again, thanks to you they know.
This buggared my VR frame rates. So that's probably why Microsoft has kept the old version.
Works well for everyone else 🤔
Your copilot mouth move when responding to ATC
hi did you tell us to go back to the old file for the update ?
mate can you advise what FPS counter is on your screen ? (small green font in the centre of screen).....i accidently turned that on somewhere on my PC...and i cant for the life of me remember where to turn it off.
There is a developer mode that can be activated. I can't remember which menu it's under, but once it's on, there is a small menu that pops up when in the sim. There is a section to turn off the fps somewhere. Sorry I can't be more help. I'm currently at work.
I have simple test scenario. I had just ran the test before the update, and repeated it exactly same way after. I lost 7-8 fps :( Which was enough to make my motion smoothing stop working :(
Hey Steve love the content but can we tone the over the top titles it’s a change over for DLSS not some risk of catching plague if we don’t watch the vid 😂
😅😅👍
Do we think/expect this will ever make it into the sim natively without needing to use the swapper?
Ok what nvidia driver version to use with msfs 2020 i’m not sure if it’s the driver or Pimax but in the middle of my gameplay the headset wants to disconnect and reconnect. I know when it’s going to happen because I can hear my computer go off the connect and disconnect sound with my VR headset on and then it will freeze for a minute and then come back on. So maybe it’s the driver can you please give me a driver version for 2020 and also waiting for Pimax to update the Pimax play? It’s been a while since they did an update unless you own a crystal light. OK, thanks buddy.
I dont have flight sim and haven't flown real aircraft for a long time...those google map blue pointers showing buildings and locations are not real life things we see flying , can that be turned off and would it improve frame rate? Cheers.
Yes of course 😅
Thanks dude
No problem mate
am having probs in seting up my controls with 2024 its a pain i have a thrustmaster TCA yoke and throttle but still cant get it working right i was in the activaties on the fuchal porchgle and it will not throttle down on the throttle in lots of them i cant is there bugs in this still
DLSS doesn’t play nicely with OpenXR Toolkit, especially if you’re using eye tracked rendering. Kept getting random crashes until I figured this out
I've had no issues myself.
No problem here with that.
Sorry if I seam ignorant but why is this needed? Kinda of new to Flgiht simming and VR so not sure why this is even needed.
More importantly…. Microsoft broke the career mode with the update…. Now I can’t even play without it CTD. Smh. Faaak!!
If your on pc if not tough!
Is TAA out of the window for you now ?
Nope. This is for DLSS users Paul.
@ I realise. I mean are you now using DLSS over TAA ?
Is there any difference if I just use frame generation with TAA, not DLSS?
Frame Gen don''t work with VR at all.
Did the MSFS update do anything worth mentioning ?
For me it completely broke it. I had issues day 1 but after yesterdays patch I cant get pass the loading screen.
@ oh that’s not good
Is there a way to know when it updates? Guess you have either be in the know, or check often.
You'll know when you load the sim and it updates. Then afterwards, close it down and update your DLSS file.
DLSS swapper shows you the current DLSS version a game uses.
@VRFlightSimGuy dang, I never watch my start screen. 😕
Where’s the update? 🤔
Has yours gone missing in the post? 🤔
Came out yesterday :)
To be honest, I didn’t notice any update on steam or MSFS and my DLSS swapper was still showing that latest one 🤔
The update has not rollbacked the DLSS file for me. Still the newest version.
You got lucky! :D
@@VRFlightSimGuy Same here. I didn't need to update DLSS when the 1.1.9.0 update came out either.
Is it possible to run DLAA without upscaling in msfs 2024?
Have to select DLSS - DLAA. Looks real good but is even more taxiing than TAA.
I joined the 97% club after update. Uninstalled and reinstalled and now working
😢
Thanks mate.
You're welcome!
Hallo Steve, ich habe das Update installiert, aber die dlss Datei wurde nicht geändert. Auch nach dem Update hatte ich die dlss 3.8.10. Auch nach mehrmaligem Neustart der Sim.
Then you are good to go :)
if u have Steam version dont worry the steam will do it for u
Do you have to open DLSS Swapper before running FS2024 each time?
Negative. Once and you're done
Or if you're using TAA. Dont worry about it lol
lol exactly.
Good luck with that and still have some decent settings and frame rate, guess it’s doable with a quest 2 or other low res headset.
@1107laurens good luck with what? And it's a quest 3 with resolution set at 1.2 and msfs settings on high
I use TAA I can still use TAA when I you the DLSS swapper ?
yes
I am using TAA, DLSS is horribble compare to TAA. I have RTX4090
I agree. This video is for DLSS users.
Not if you know what you're doing.. I've found out how to use dlss tweaks and enable Ultra Quality
ruclips.net/video/TFbskVLP6Ks/видео.htmlsi=ruHTRXodCT9q65T3
Do I need DLSS
I didn’t even know it was a thing.
Make sure you are subbed to my channel, you have missed a lot. 😅 VR settings guide on the channel last week.
And we wonder why so many people buy an Xbox :))
I CAN USE VR ON XBOX
How?
No. Also, don't shout please 👍
and flightsim 2020 still looks better....
Are you sure about that?? The lighting, terrain and weather all look very noticeably better.
Then stick with it 😊
And still, the quality and performance in FS2020 is, even with TAA, much, much better than in FS2024.
Seriously? Are we need 50 sec clickbait video? You could write quick info in title...
The click bait on this channel is always strong. Never worth clicking on I have come to realize. A few more and I think unsub is coming.
I keep trying fs2024 in vr but even with TAA it still looks rubbish compared to fs2020, it just doesnt have the clarity of 2020, its like there is a haze or something, 2020 is gorgeous and has years of use ahead in my opinion, we didnt need fs2024