Yes we do. It's called infinity. It's an easy to grasp concept if a scientist or religious person can get their head out of their as* and realize that numbers and thus creation are relative. But the AMOUNT of these creations is endless. To speak of a 'God' or of a 'Big Bang' is nothing but a failed attempt to give one start (in space and time) to everything. That's the Rabbit Hole that scientists and believers fall into. 😂 Good luck with finding evidence for such narrow-minded thinking.
@@red_wullf You think that? Maybe I'm pointing out how absurd it is to look out there with open hands waiting for your bishop, I mean, scientist to tell you how things are based off his interpretations of a book, I mean telescope that only he and a few have access to. Here we are waiting for our new fix expecting society to jump to Star Trek level while the top video on youtube is a fat lady twerking on an ambulance trying to save someone. In a year they'll serve you the same sh*t in a different bun and your response will be. So cool how science selflessly corrects itself. Your religion is lame.
@@hosiequad the universe was never created, it is infinite in extend and in time. It does not need something like a god and there is no god. God is a idea of brains that do not understand eternity and infinity.
Wait until the *"**#Carl_Sagan** Space Observatory"* is launched in 2034. Figures and thoughts and theories will change once again. ................. .
The problem though is that it's somewhat of an intellectual circle jerk. Many in the scientific community or even just those that follow it as the sole answer for understand the workd/universe around us are fine with constantly finding that their theories are wrong, yet somehow manage to consistently boast themselves, often arrogantly and insultingly, as if they have all the answers and any other conclusion is ridiculous.
I quote Bruce Lee here: correct a fool and he’ll be angry. Correct a wise person and they’ll thank you. (Not entirely sure it was Bruce but that doesn’t matter lol)
Unless you show a scientist proof of life after death, like tens of thousands of near death experiences. Then they shut their eyes and put their fingers in their ears.
Imagine your chagrin on that fateful day when you finally realize that the "scientific" "conclusions" reached by "scientists", was paid for in advance by said Congressmen. The correct term for "science" is terminological inexactitude.
@@J-HueProblem with this is it's like sports teams arguing a team that should win because they are stacked. They will have die hard fans that will argue that they will win to the death until proven otherwise. The difference is that as a scientist you can't let your ego and pride stop you from pushing forward and making progress. Alot of people think people that are wrong should feel horrible. People are passionate and we shouldn't punish people for that just like you shouldn't punish a child for curiosity. You can be wrong and not feel bad about the opinion you had before as long as you are learning from it unless your opinion was hurting others then that's a little different.
In 1967 I was 7 years old and I was given a book about the universe. I still have that book, and I get a kick looking at the theories and the modest amount of information of that time. 2 years later mankind landed on the moon, and I became hooked as a Sci-Fi nut. The James Webb telescope just had to unfurl and set up in a simple 250 step process :) ... and it has followed that miracle with many amazing finds.
I've got a friend who's an astrophysicists, and he and his colleagues have never been happier. They're wetting their pants over the idea of new physics
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
We think we know the nature and genesis of the Universe. In reality, we are still in a cave scratching on the walls with rock tools with our brilliant minds. The Big Bang theory (aka Big Bang "Fact") never made much sense, and there are far too many "Ifs," perhaps," "possibly," and other qualifiers when these great scientists speak of the Big Bang always assuming all these presumptions are true. It was always a best wild guess theory and only a theory, but it took on a life of its own as the Big Bang Fact scientists made a career out of this creative assumption. Critical to the Big Bang theory is the "Initial Singularity." No one can explain or prove where the "Initial Singularity" originated from. In this fantasy theory, the universe started as a "singularity" or a single extremely hot and dense point that apparently materialized out of "nothingness" because the Universe did not exist yet, with self-generating infinite energy and temperature, and zero volume. Only a scientist or schizophrenic can make this up. This singularity from nowhere presumably contained all the matter, energy, space, and time needed that would eventually become our universe. Maybe there was a giant chicken in the Pre-Universe that laid this Singularity egg. Did it hatched from the heat of space radiation, and the universe was then born? No, according to scientists, the egg (Singularity) came first. Singularity is a huge assumption with nothing to support it. We cannot prove that and have not proved that, and the entire theory rests on that HUGE ASSUMPTION. Why that assumption? Well, if you are not sure about something, you dream it up, and give it a bizarre name like "The Initial Singularity" because you have no idea how the universe started, but you have to find something or you have no theory. So they invented the point of the genesis of the universe, somehow, because they could not think of anything else, nor had enough understanding of the universe to approach the reality of the genesis of the Universe.
Sounds romantic but it doesn't bring the answers we need. The universe might be to complex for small beens like us to fully understand but it doesn't mean we should just give up.
It still blows my mind at how far away and massive these celestial bodies are, how much time has passed, and that we can see them and understand them to the extent that we do.
@@BeastMastery Yeah, bro doesn't realize that all of our "understanding" of this subject isn't possible to verify empirically and instead is a slew of assumptions based on hypothetical propositions, like the Big Bang "Theory".
@@LecherousLizard Assuming my level of understanding from one comment seems unfair. I specifically mentioned, 'to the extent that we do,' acknowledging our limited knowledge. It's possible to appreciate the progress in our understanding while recognizing its limitations. No need to be negative about it.
When we are confronted with things like this, distances we simply cannot comprehend, ages we cant grasp, we find ourselves having to adjust our understanding of all we know about our universe. Physics and Science dont do absolutes.. they do updates and adjustments.. we should too.
@@Steven-kl6lh If that's your outlook, feel free to rid yourself of any and all quality-of-life enhancements facilitated by scientific discovery (medicine, your phone, internet, modern transportation, electricity), and instead go live a stone-age lifestyle. At the end of the day, we're born, we live, we die.. same as it ever was and will be.. right Steven?
@@Believe_the_Bible Its not a discovery, it's a made up fiction. But lets discuss whose God you are talking about, you supernatural cult followers can't seem to stop arguing about whose version of God is correct or even what he said, that in itself proves its just a story for those that cant live without a crutch.
All problems start with misunderstanding of infinite micro and macro cosmos and their mutual connections... What is ether and if Einstein was wrong with his explanations of cosmos? Supercomputers with artificial intelligence are stupid machines created by lost gorillas known as human beings. Real gorillas did not loose instinct as human beings. Only instinct can discover secrets of universum.
The thing that amazes me is that even though our powerful telescope can show us what these galaxies looked like billions of years ago, we have no idea if they are still even in existence today or what civilizations might exist there?
There might be an opportunity here... Perhaps the most distant galaxies are currently NOT where we imagine... As we observe them now, we see them as they were billions of years ago. What can we observe now that makes total sense and what can we observe now that diverges from expectability? This may hold a clue to a resolution.
You are assuming light travels 1 way at 186,000 miles per second? It is possible that light can travel one way at a instantaneous speed because their is no way to measure it from point A to point B… I believe they have to measure it from A to B and then back to A …then do the math…? 😇😎
Agreed, Whippy. Try to get a life, willya, JB? A very high percentage of up-to-college "cosmology" is nonsense simply because the authors use the word "dimensions" all over the place when what they are referring to is directions. "Three-dimensional space," for instance, is a reference to that fact that once you've picked a random direction, there are only two more Euclidean ways you can go at right angles to it. This is a correct statement about grade-school geometry, but really tells us buggerall about the dimensionality of the spacetime in which we live. On this planet.
That is where collaboration comes into play. Divide up large tasks into smaller chunks and share the load and then compare and adjust results, and then do it again.
It'll probably be a considerable re-write given that this supersized galaxy is 10 times larger and is apparently merging with another one at 500K years after the Big Bang (to me it sould like the Big Bang needs looked and the universe might need to be made older (it would be hilarious if they find a Galaxy that is so old as to defy the age fo the universe))
@@EndoftheBeginning17 it's like meeting a 2 year old with the history of a 40 year man. He has a career, a history, built a family, served his country. 🤯
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
No matter how far we look in the universe, we see the same basic structure. Fully formed galaxies equally spaced. The problem is not the observation, it's the theory being reported as fact.
Exactly. Anyone, (I believe) who is trying figure out the age of the universe will NEVER understand... It`s not old. It can`t be old because time itself does not exist anywhere in the universe, except within the human mind. Time is nothing more than a mental construct, devised by humans, (and ONLY humans) to help us measure, and therefore comprehend change. Past, present, and future all co-exist all at once, but the human brain simply can not comprehend this concept. We see change all around us, and NEED something to help it make sense to us. Thus, the invention of time. I believe that time should not even enter the equation, when trying to understand the creation of the universe. It does little but hinder our endeavors in this regard...Asking "when?" makes no sense.
@@kilyk21That's ridiculous. A cosmologist in the video literally says that he's happy for this news despite an "entire career" being turned on its head. Why? Because this is how scientists learn. Discovering something is false is every bit as important as any other discovery, if not more so.
The more we discover about the universe, the more tiny and insignificant we human beings seem to become... But still it's so super fascinating. All in all, Earth is a living jewel in our own solar system.
@@guzziguy1000 I remember seeing a television interview with Christopher Reeves (of Superman Fame) after his terrible accident when he was paralyzed from the neck down, when asked if he believed in God? he answered..(and I quote) I'd rather believe in a "God" if there wasn't a "God" then not to believe in a "God" if there was. As of answering your question..as for me no it doesn't.
@@LTPottenger Absolutely and wholeheartedly Agree. The problem is Earthkind [of all species] is Finite, birth and death. That does not necessitate that which is Outside and Beyond Earth is subject to being finite.
@@LTPottenger While we are at it we should go ahead and throw out gravity, erosion, genetic inheritance, paleontology as a whole as well as psychology and every aspect of medicinal science as they all have gone through massive revisions just like the big bang theory. I swear people do not understand how science works, its not about being right, its about being wrong so that we can attempt to be more right with the next idea. We are not omnificent, science is our methodology for attempting to understand our reality and reality just happens more complicated than simplistic religious and mythological explanations.
The size of the shit I took is an incredible achievement. The JWST is a tragic waste of time and resources that could be better spent actually helping humanity.
@@maybeitsyou1317The money people spend on pets would help all of humanity. All the money spent on jewelry would benefit humanity. All the money given to Israel to kill Muslims would benefit humanity. The ability to help all humanity has been here for a hundred years. Just no political will to do it. Science and knowledge benefit humanity. What have you done that benefits humanity.
THIS LESSON REMINDS ME OF THE WISE MAN WHO WALKED ALONG THE SHORE ONE NIGHT AND LOOKED UP AT THE STARS AND SAID TO HIMSELF...I DONT KNOW A DAMN THING...
Never gets old. We sit here worrying stressing through our lives.. we are merely literal specs of dust in space and time. Enjoy the time while you are still breathing.
Don't neglect your own creation, you're made from the very stuff the universe is made of. The stars have a place in this big jazz, and so do you. We're all children of creation: trees, animals, and stars.
@keepitsecret-dl1prwe may not know what conditions must be met for intelligent life to exist. We only what what conditions must be met for life like ours to exist. There could fully sentient rocks out there for all we know.
Big bang may be a cop out like dark matter. It was just a place holder for something we don't understand. That is comforting and makes more sense anyway.
But there have been many that tried to make the big bang theory out to be fact. It is a theory. Not fact. And like most theories, they are later shown to either be partially or completely incorrect. That is science.
This is how science works. We sharpen our tools, gather more data, and make models on what we know. Sometimes we find surprising new data that forces a fundamental rewriting of what our model contains. This isn't a bad thing, this is the exact goal: refining our knowledge.
If only that were true. Here's how it really works. You make observations. You then concoct a model which explains those measurements. When new measurements arise you cram them into the model. You will defend the model more vigorously than your corner office. Fleas on the back of an elephant. It's comical really but also sad.
Seems to me the underrepresentation of electromagnetism in cosmology is a huge oversight. More likely that gravity is actually an emergent phenomenon due to electromagnetic processes in all atomic mass, and the electromagnetism is the true force acting over large distances. It would certainly dovetail with quantum mechanics better and probably eliminate the need for "dark energy" and "dark matter" (which are really just placeholder names for "we have no clue"😆).
if gravity were an EM force, you could block it or affect it. My theory is that EM affects a 3rd party source, which in turn, creates a negative pressure that pulls space-time into itself, and where space-time is stretched out, creates a positive pressure which we call dark energy. In which case we can hypothesize that quantum energy states not in perfect equilibrium create forces we perceive similar to how magnets don't exist unless the electrons all align in poles which would also explain why gravity is such a weak force. This is turn, would also explain why matter cannot travel as fast as light since matter is essentially energy at a high density so it drags more space-time around it, thus slowing it down relativistically. Furthermore, we can proof this in the lab. A photon can decay into a particle and its anti-particle (most commonly an electron and positron). thus confirming that space-time is more sensitive to unbalanced particles like electrons and less to photons(balanced). We can then determine that to make faster than light travel is relatively straightforward, we create an energy bubble that is balanced at the quantum scale forcing a positive pressure at the bow.
I had the presence of mind to know that, as a Cosmologist, I could not cope with such new information as described here. So I switched majors and am now a Cosmetologist.
Of course the theory of how the universe was created will have to be revised in light of the JWST discoveries! This is what science is for; this is what JWST is for-to get us ever closer to the truth. This should be enthusiastically welcomed by all true scientists and believers in science for it is the rational behind any scientific endeavor.
Carl Sagan does a graceful job on the theologians in the book version of his "Cosmos." When I worked for the church in the 1960s, I found people who lived up to his charitable picture to be fairly common.
You are hopelessly naive. They will cling to their pet theories harder than their corner offices. Count on it. Big Bang, ha! I always thought that construct was hogwash. Big Belch.
As it goes in Philosophy, "Be a little less certain about the things you think you know". Keep them coming JWST! The 'crisis in cosmology' is a good thing, and only means there is more to discover =D.
"In the beginning...." Who created the heavens and stretched them out, Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it, Who gives breath to the people on it, And spirit to those who walk on it:
@@trustandglorify42 Genesis 1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Then he doesn't create stars until much later. So god either used magic water that didn't have oxygen(the O in H2O) or he somehow only created oxygen for the earth or something? Lol. Ty JWST. At least we can evolve from what we learn from you.
@@ZeusKingOfAllGods Did you just "Lol" God?... You really are clueless, aren't you? 🤣 EVERY single thing that exists, does so because of Him, no "magic" needed... including powdered water if he wanted. 😏 The arrogance of keyboard atheists never cease to amaze.
Vedas say that our universe is about 155.52 trillion human years old, and its total life span is 311.04 trillion human years (which is equivalent to 100 years of Brahma). This from a multi millennium old tradition! a time when even a thousand years seemed like a big timeline!
@keepitsecret-dl1pr No, it's highly _unlikely_ and naive in the extreme to assume we are the only "ants". We'll just likely never exist within space close enough to find each other, or close enough in time to exist at the same time. Either billions of years apart, or trillions of lightyears apart.
@@annettewatson3706 All deities are manmade. Ancient man created beliefs to explain the mysteries of life, death, disease, earthquakes, etc. Each culture created their own beliefs which is why there are thousands of deities on Earth. Mountain cultures didn't need a tsunami god and tropical cultures didn't need a snow god. Those cultural beliefs morphed over time into religion.
"Humanity " would need to move from the monetary systems, the political system and the religious institutions and perhaps there may be some hope in moving forward. @Bluets023
Its funny how they admit that they don't know, but at the same time gives a lecture like they do know about the universe and speaks on the subjects like there facts.
That’s the way science works, it changes as better evidence becomes available. until then while still called a theory.A theory in science isn’t what most people think a theory is. It shows people don’t understand science, in the US people would rather believe in the Goat Herders Guide to the Galaxy than science. Why is it people would rather have a magical answer than a logical one?
@@motorcitymadman146I would change to "at such level of societal and moral development". But I would go so far as to say that with our current course civilization will simply degrade to preindustrial levels in 70-150 years max.
This is my theory. I don't mind sharing it, believing that finding the truth is more important than any accolades afforded whomever discovers and PROVES that truth. We're not only looking across vast distances, we are looking through TIME, and the 'graphene sheets' of space. It is imperfections therein, we find a magnifying effect, both in size, and the dilation of space-time (the three dimensions of space, augmented with the fourth dimension of time), as seen through the lens of the Webb Telescope, and taking into account, the resultant equations, alongside Hubble's constants! We see those distant galaxies as younger than they are, because the light we see IS, but also because of the 'lens affect' we are witness to, affords a more CURRENT IMAGE of those galaxies, which are in fact, WAY BEYOND older than our own! Much in the way we cannot see beyond an horizon, unless we elevate our viewpoint (where a new horizon then blocks our view), and the way the atmospere of our own planet magnifies our image of the rising Sun or Moon, making each appear larger; the fabric of space substitutes our atmosphere in the near vacuum of 'outer space', and concomitantly magnifies what we can see, close to, or at, the horizon. There is much more, of course, but I kept this simple for ease of understanding, and average attention spans....(meaning, "I don't wish to be a COMPLETE bore!") I'd be interested in the opinions of those more intelligent or knowledgable than I. Please....no trolls, I'm too busy to have to contend with inanities. Thank you for reading this.
I’m not scientifically trained, that said, your interpretation seems intuitively sound. At the core, it seems that certain suppositions are skewing our perception of the real picture. Everything needs to be put on the table - analyzed and cross examined in relation with the rest . We have no reason to blindly believe that our yardstick is fool proof across time and space.
Now this is news I love! Just proves that the more Humans think they know, they know nothing! Space, though I'm not interested in going there, is absolutely mind blowing!!! I appreciate those who bring this brilliant information back to Earth! Is it the last word in Science, I highly doubt it, but even these tid bits are more than fascinating! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ No wonder Science was my favorite subject in School..❤❤
But the atheists and other smug non-believers who shape the current wisdom concerning the origin of the universe in the scientific community will do anything they can to avoid attributing it to the work of the infinite God, or admit the Biblical timeline of thousands of years might actually be correct. It's fun to watch them twist themselves into ever-tighter pretzel shapes when trying to explain what they see without the context of God and creation. OF COURSE, they were going to find fully-formed, apparently "old" galaxies and other objects at the edge of observable space. I think God is laughing himself silly at all these pretentious, "learned" individuals who are so sure of their intellectual superiority, but yet compared to Him they know next door to nothing. We will never be able to fully understand how God did what He did, because it is impossible for we finite humans to apprehend the Infinite God. But He gave us His Word which tells us that He created the heavens, stars, and other celestial objects on Day 4 AFTER He created the Earth. Since the opinions of secular scientists are unreliable and change all the time, as evidently witnessed by this entire discussion of the Big Bang Theory; and whereas God''s Word is reliable and unchanging, it is His Word that I choose to use as the underlying foundation for my worldview.
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
science technically never proves anything. things can get to nearly perfect proof, but science allows for ANY evidence to the contrary to change things. the only people who think they know everything are religious nuts.... who ironically know the least
Nobody thinks they know everything … well, except my brother and mom … they are just wanting proof for the theories we have … that did not work out as expected …
Makes sense if gravity was stronger in the early universe. It would cause matter to coalesce more quickly. And a stronger gravitational constant in an early universe makes sense when we think of gravity as pressure from the fabric of space pushing against and through matter. An early universe would have a denser fabric, exerting greater pressure, causing galaxies to form more quickly.
@@sloppyjoe1051 They are totally ignored and anyone mentioning them is a heretic and blackballed. This is why the Bbt is so crap. And 'astronomers ' perplexed and surprised with every new observation.
What a grate idea to build this telescope , has open our eyes like never before, what else is to come ? Every step in one closer to understand the universe ❤
This is amazing we have been mostly relying on Hubble which was built in the 90s and technology has advanced rapidly since then. I love hubble and we are indebted to its service, but we have waited a long time for a new telescope. We need more advanced space exploration tech up there.
Once again science and scientists expand the frontiers of our knowledge to what remains the great unknown from our small and insignificant planet. Thank you.
@@sjp35productions6 by your rationale, why not just save a step and conclude that the universe "just is"? Why introduce additional inexplicable parameters? In other words, if you conclude that god has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed in some or other form? There's no need to introduce anything "extra" - at least until the evidence for such a creator presents itself
big bang ---- god ----- well folks "0ur" universe is the result of a division of a cell into 2 parts as we see in the world smaller than ourselves - where all this came from will "never" be solved - you can see where the "god"theory took us ------------- practice of religion which is the greatest evil ever - destruction of humanity and its abode for delusional concepts of our existence --- our earth can or could only support a population of maybe 500 million humans ----in 20-30 years or way less we will be faced with "now what do we do" oceans and earth is on it's death bed and the ignorance derived from belief in magical phenomenal and super unnatural processes , ie , religion has placed earth and its living inhabitants on the verge of the greatest evil the destruction of a system created by a process greater than our combined intelligence !!!!!
It means Science is always Evolving and current Theories can be disproven at anytime. It is important to have open discussions NOT CENSORSHIP BY POLITICIANS. This makes Science Great Again.
Yeah, such hubris in those scientists knowingly holding a tentative position based and the best current data available, then when new data is available they celebrate it and work to modify their ideas to account for, again, the best current data available. Such hubris.
If you think astrophysics is daunting, try looking at yourself in the mirror... in total honesty, no excuses: Who are you? Knowledge of all things begins with the increased clarity of perception one gains through the pursuit of self-knowledge. That is the foundation & basis upon which all observers stand.
The universe isn’t truly infinite, though. Infinity means unending in both directions. The universe only has no ending in one direction. All these primordial galaxies mean is that either our understanding of how galaxies form is wrong or the universe is older than what we thought. This does not mean that the universe has no beginning.
There is no material object that you can point to that is infinite. Infinity has no beginning and has no end. The universe began to exist. Infinity isn't even a mathematical construct, it's an ideological construct, which has no correlation in the material world. In other words you cannot add / subtract / divide / multiply / Factor Infinity through Math. So to use Infinity as a basis of your argument is already invalid.
@@alyjiyu That question, like what is the universe expanding into, if it is expanding at all ..... are unknowable and will always be unknowable. They take the focus off enjoying life and our loved ones. So we dont know ...... we are here for such a short time ..... enjoy and dont hurt anyone ..... thats it. Zen.
We have no evidence of dark matter existing, so it sort of makes sense to hypothesize that it may not exist, at least the way we think. It always struck me that dark matter was only added to the model to account for discrepancies in the expansion rate. Instead of essentially ignoring it, now hopefully we can actually discover something about it!
If Dark matter existed, there would have to be far more of it than light matter. Yet it seems to have no effect on objects traveling through it. Also, as invisible as it seems to be, such a massive amount of any matter would obscure completely our view of any distant celestial objects. We would also never be able to figure the effect on red shift from it. Are we looking at the shift of the dark matter?
While religion goes: "We believe hard enough so we don't need proof" Science doesn't claim to know everything. That's the beauty of science, no one has ever said they were the all powerful holders of knowledge. It takes a lot of courage and bravery to say "we got something wrong, let's have another go" it shows maturity. Don't see religion ever admitting they got things wrong...
@@Shadowknightneo Bullshit. That is not how it is. Now if you disagree with Science, you are ridiculed complete with name calling. If you do not subscribe to Evolution then you are a crack pot. If you believe in God then you are delusional and it goes on and on.
Religion: "I don't understand what causes thunder, lightning, earthquakes, or volcanic eruptions... Aha! God is angry, of course! Quick, grab a virgin... I know how to fix this!"
@@kevinpickford8714 Science advances and learns. That’s the entire point of science, learning and understanding means advancement. Things that do not change cause problems.
There is nothing that has to be changed as we don't know anything about the start of the universe anyways. It's all guesses and the age of the universe has been changed many times anyhow based on new information we find out. This is how science works.
@@ZeusKingOfAllGods Wow! What a handle. So, how's things going on Olympus? I see that your stable of worshipers is running a little thin these days. Judging from that storm the other night you are not running short of thunderbolts. Uncertainty, a funny concept coming from a god ruled by the fates, but heck, who's counting?
Every time we put a more powerful telescope into use, the universe gets bigger and older. We should get it by now that we have no idea how big the universe is, how old it is, and that we may not be the only "universe". We actually have no idea what our known universe even currently looks like.
@@shechshire The largest part of our universe will never be seen on earth due to expansion and the speed of light. We currently only see a fraction of what is most likely out there.
@@vchism712 Most likely… Meaning you don’t know. Doug wanted to know the shape & that’s what we got. Are you proposing there’s something behind the Big Bang?
That is an absolutely awesome discovery that should excite us all. Ive always said that someday we`ll find out the nature of reality is far stranger than we imagined. Everything from the beginnings of the universe to what happens after death. Some day we`ll find out we had no idea and the reality is far more fascinating then our theories in science and religious nonsense.
@@JakeCuthbert It's pretty obvious there was no big bang with the discovery of these huge galaxies formed as they are. They just don't admit there wasn't a big bang in order to appease the "experts" that have said there was for their decades career that would be shown to have been a waste of time!
@@JakeCuthbert It's obvious there was no big bang because of the size and development of the several galaxies that have been discovered much earlier than would be the case if a "big bang" started it all. The only reason they aren't abandoning that theory is because of the countless university types that have spent decades teaching and believing it. Their "careers" will be pointless so they say now that their model of how quickly galaxies and stars develop has to be changed.
@@citoante how can it be much younger if we're finding things 13 billion light years? younger than what? younger than what the big bang model says? no, that would make you really stupid, younger than infinity also doesn't make sense because it's infinite, time is meaningless lol
What a strange post. Does the scientific method upset you? This is how science works. A hypothesis is generated based on the information we have available at the time. Then if it is proven to be wrong science adapts to the new information and looks for new hypotheses. In the meantime our understanding grows, our technology advances, and we progress. This keeps going until something is proven beyond any doubt and we move onto other questions. I'm guessing by your post that you don't understand science much - religious perhaps? If we didn't want to be proven right or wrong we wouldn't invent things to check them out. We would just stop developing and blindly believe whatever we are told... sound familiar?
@@ploppyploppy What are you on about try watching this video, no sjw reqiured here...ok! also how have you connected religion to this video...."ploppyploppy" seems like an apt handle for you!.
@@ploppyploppyHow did science work during covid..it didn't. Plenty of examples, we have a big problem in science, its about group pressure, money, politics.
@@rudypieplenbosch6752 how in the world do you come to the conclusion that science didn’t work during Covid? Science quickly figured out the nature of the virus and how it was infecting people. Science also predicted that if the virus wasn’t quarantined, it would spread all over the place which it did. In countries that ignored the science they had a very high mortality rate early on. In countries like the United States, where vaccinations became politicized, countless people died unnecessarily, and it was only until the vaccination was widely distributed that the mortality rate went down. Where exactly was the failure of science here?
We managed to move on from the creation of the universe in 6 days thing, we can move on again, this is a good reminder that science is dynamic, always changing, nothing is set in stone, the moment you think it is,the moment science becomes religion.
The crazy part is the Big Bang Theory, as it became known. Was first postulated by a Catholic priest who was a friend of Einstein. And then there's the question; How long is one day for God? Maybe if the Human race doesn't destroy itself, we will advance far enough for answers. Or maybe if we survive long enough. It will be us saying Let There Be Light. But looking around at the state of our civilization. I doubt we have much longer much longer to answer, prove, or disprove anything.
@user-ob5rg3iq8r the Bible only states the earth and solar system was created in 6 days ,sadly you are miss informed.sader still if your metaphysical beliefs are i came from goop and will be poop is pathetic.truly I wish you will find truth or truth will find you.
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
Super position engine is .. (way) faster,i wonder when the 1st sparky works it out and builds one .. i also wonder when the power steals it for themselves
We barely survived the changes at our home planet Imagine people thinking our fragile body will survive on another planet that could potentially be totally different from this planet. That would require thousands of years of evolution just to scratch the limitations of our physiologic, physic, immune system and bones. It will need dna to change, the gravity divergences in other planet will chance our body format, each planet would require the same amount of years of development that we aprox had here... lmao too much out of our reach
It strikes me that it's like peering through someone's letterbox to decide what's in their loft. I think taking a close look at the Hubble Constant and other assumptions regarding velocity and distance might be a good idea.
As time dilation is dependant on gravity and gravity is dependant on mass, then time doesn't begin until mass develops sufficient gravity to dilate time from instant/infinite to todays observable phenomena.
@@stevenparker8076 But if time is instant before the time dilation of the gravity well forms, then it forms before time begins ie. instantly from our perspective.
The universe being as large as it is, couldn't there have been big bangs in far away places that happened in different times that account for galaxies that look mature that far away. There could be so many different answers for what we now see with the James Webb telescope.
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We do not have the capacity to grasp even a fraction of what actually is out there or how it came to be. Wonderful!
@hoytwood4937Been a month. I’m shocked some douche bag Atheist hasn’t insulted you.
You mean like aliens among us?
Yes we do. It's called infinity. It's an easy to grasp concept if a scientist or religious person can get their head out of their as* and realize that numbers and thus creation are relative. But the AMOUNT of these creations is endless. To speak of a 'God' or of a 'Big Bang' is nothing but a failed attempt to give one start (in space and time) to everything. That's the Rabbit Hole that scientists and believers fall into. 😂 Good luck with finding evidence for such narrow-minded thinking.
Speak for yourself. 😂
You, Sir, are absolutely correct. Thank you so very much.
"Monstrous Galaxy at the Edge of Time" is my favourite phrase I have encountered in some while.
That'd also make a great name for a movie. Picture it !
The standard model could never go beyond the JWT.
Stuart Talbott: JWST Keeps Busting Big Bang | Thunderbolts
@@guzziguy1000
... where the audience go to sleep 😴 immediately....
There's a restaurant there somewhere.
Theres something so nice about someone that knows alot being dumbfounded and handling it open mind humility and grace
That's how smart people operate. You shouldn't be afraid to admit you dont know. Know yourself, and seek self improvement.
Technically, the age of the universe is a theory. No one knows.
A lot.
That's just it. When it comes to a what's out there we don't know squat.
@@av2245no, the age of the universe is what the theories return.
Not enough of us realize what an undertaking build Webb was.
TRULY AMAZING STUFF
Astrophysicist: I have a theory.
Universe: If you say so.
Cross out universe in everything you say and put in God. That's a step. Small.. but a step.
@@hosiequadYou’re advocating for the age old “God of the gaps” argument. No thanks, there’s nothing meaningful down that path.
@@red_wullf You think that? Maybe I'm pointing out how absurd it is to look out there with open hands waiting for your bishop, I mean, scientist to tell you how things are based off his interpretations of a book, I mean telescope that only he and a few have access to.
Here we are waiting for our new fix expecting society to jump to Star Trek level while the top video on youtube is a fat lady twerking on an ambulance trying to save someone.
In a year they'll serve you the same sh*t in a different bun and your response will be. So cool how science selflessly corrects itself.
Your religion is lame.
@@hosiequad You can do the reverse and it's just as accurate.
@@hosiequad the universe was never created, it is infinite in extend and in time. It does not need something like a god and there is no god. God is a idea of brains that do not understand eternity and infinity.
I am just happy to see James Webb working before I die.
How old are you? Hope to see the next level one surprising us even further!
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❤ absolutely, same here.
I hope you see many more wonders than you expected to see.
Wait until the *"**#Carl_Sagan** Space Observatory"* is launched in 2034.
Figures and thoughts and theories will change once again.
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I love how scientists get excited of being wrong and are not afraid of being wrong. You imagine a congressman ever admitting they’re wrong?
The problem though is that it's somewhat of an intellectual circle jerk. Many in the scientific community or even just those that follow it as the sole answer for understand the workd/universe around us are fine with constantly finding that their theories are wrong, yet somehow manage to consistently boast themselves, often arrogantly and insultingly, as if they have all the answers and any other conclusion is ridiculous.
I quote Bruce Lee here: correct a fool and he’ll be angry. Correct a wise person and they’ll thank you.
(Not entirely sure it was Bruce but that doesn’t matter lol)
Unless you show a scientist proof of life after death, like tens of thousands of near death experiences. Then they shut their eyes and put their fingers in their ears.
Imagine your chagrin on that fateful day when you finally realize that the "scientific" "conclusions" reached by "scientists", was paid for in advance by said Congressmen.
The correct term for "science" is terminological inexactitude.
@@J-HueProblem with this is it's like sports teams arguing a team that should win because they are stacked. They will have die hard fans that will argue that they will win to the death until proven otherwise. The difference is that as a scientist you can't let your ego and pride stop you from pushing forward and making progress. Alot of people think people that are wrong should feel horrible. People are passionate and we shouldn't punish people for that just like you shouldn't punish a child for curiosity. You can be wrong and not feel bad about the opinion you had before as long as you are learning from it unless your opinion was hurting others then that's a little different.
In 1967 I was 7 years old and I was given a book about the universe. I still have that book, and I get a kick looking at the theories and the modest amount of information of that time. 2 years later mankind landed on the moon, and I became hooked as a Sci-Fi nut.
The James Webb telescope just had to unfurl and set up in a simple 250 step process :) ... and it has followed that miracle with many amazing finds.
Well- NASA said people landed on the moon. Given the evidence admitted back then, and what we know now- this is a highly dubious claim.
Nice
We never went to the moon
@@duanemansel5704 correct, you weren't there..
@@duanemansel5704
Go play your video games.
I've got a friend who's an astrophysicists, and he and his colleagues have never been happier. They're wetting their pants over the idea of new physics
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
We think we know the nature and genesis of the Universe. In reality, we are still in a cave scratching on the walls with rock tools with our brilliant minds. The Big Bang theory (aka Big Bang "Fact") never made much sense, and there are far too many "Ifs," perhaps," "possibly," and other qualifiers when these great scientists speak of the Big Bang always assuming all these presumptions are true. It was always a best wild guess theory and only a theory, but it took on a life of its own as the Big Bang Fact scientists made a career out of this creative assumption. Critical to the Big Bang theory is the "Initial Singularity." No one can explain or prove where the "Initial Singularity" originated from. In this fantasy theory, the universe started as a "singularity" or a single extremely hot and dense point that apparently materialized out of "nothingness" because the Universe did not exist yet, with self-generating infinite energy and temperature, and zero volume. Only a scientist or schizophrenic can make this up. This singularity from nowhere presumably contained all the matter, energy, space, and time needed that would eventually become our universe. Maybe there was a giant chicken in the Pre-Universe that laid this Singularity egg. Did it hatched from the heat of space radiation, and the universe was then born? No, according to scientists, the egg (Singularity) came first. Singularity is a huge assumption with nothing to support it. We cannot prove that and have not proved that, and the entire theory rests on that HUGE ASSUMPTION. Why that assumption? Well, if you are not sure about something, you dream it up, and give it a bizarre name like "The Initial Singularity" because you have no idea how the universe started, but you have to find something or you have no theory. So they invented the point of the genesis of the universe, somehow, because they could not think of anything else, nor had enough understanding of the universe to approach the reality of the genesis of the Universe.
It's an exciting time to be alive.
I think this is depressing
@@jayo3074 Why!?
The best that most of us can hope to achieve in physics is simply to misunderstand at a deeper level."
- Wolfgang Pauli
Unfortunately
Experts are usually wrong in the long run
We're a spec in time it's a forever time
Sounds romantic but it doesn't bring the answers we need. The universe might be to complex for small beens like us to fully understand but it doesn't mean we should just give up.
The pursuit for the answers is better than solving them, anyway.
It still blows my mind at how far away and massive these celestial bodies are, how much time has passed, and that we can see them and understand them to the extent that we do.
what do we know about Time......He flung the stars into their existence
We don't, actually.
Even our current understanding of our own Sun is fundamentally flawed.
Understand? It's all theoretical.
@@BeastMastery Yeah, bro doesn't realize that all of our "understanding" of this subject isn't possible to verify empirically and instead is a slew of assumptions based on hypothetical propositions, like the Big Bang "Theory".
@@LecherousLizard Assuming my level of understanding from one comment seems unfair. I specifically mentioned, 'to the extent that we do,' acknowledging our limited knowledge. It's possible to appreciate the progress in our understanding while recognizing its limitations. No need to be negative about it.
When we are confronted with things like this, distances we simply cannot comprehend, ages we cant grasp, we find ourselves having to adjust our understanding of all we know about our universe. Physics and Science dont do absolutes.. they do updates and adjustments.. we should too.
This should be celebrated, new knowledge and understanding keeps humanity striving and progressing.
Really?..so how have WE progressed? Born, live, die...same as it ever was...and will be..😁✌️
@@Steven-kl6lh If that's your outlook, feel free to rid yourself of any and all quality-of-life enhancements facilitated by scientific discovery (medicine, your phone, internet, modern transportation, electricity), and instead go live a stone-age lifestyle. At the end of the day, we're born, we live, we die.. same as it ever was and will be.. right Steven?
@@Steven-kl6lh Nice nihilism
@Tuatha_De_Gaming Donny, these men are nihilists. Nothing to be afraid of. These men are cowards.
@@Steven-kl6lhit seems your cerebral palsy has progressed by the looks of it
*The more we know **The less we know***
When new facts arrive, old paradigms crumble...
That’s true in every field of research.
And I know that's true.
You mean the more we know the more lies we tell ourselves more like
And we will never know.
James webb has told us our current science is wrong.... brilliant because it will lead to some amazing new discoveries
Here is an old discovery.
Gen 1:1 KJV In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
@@Believe_the_Biblemetaphorical
@@Believe_the_Bible Its not a discovery, it's a made up fiction. But lets discuss whose God you are talking about, you supernatural cult followers can't seem to stop arguing about whose version of God is correct or even what he said, that in itself proves its just a story for those that cant live without a crutch.
How could Tony Fauchi be wrong? He IS the science!!! 🧪
@@haruchaiyou berating them detracts from your desired narrative.
The more we learn the more complicated it becomes.
All problems start with misunderstanding of infinite micro and macro cosmos and their mutual connections... What is ether and if Einstein was wrong with his explanations of cosmos? Supercomputers with artificial intelligence are stupid machines created by lost gorillas known as human beings. Real gorillas did not loose instinct as human beings. Only instinct can discover secrets of universum.
The thing that amazes me is that even though our powerful telescope can show us what these galaxies looked like billions of years ago, we have no idea if they are still even in existence today or what civilizations might exist there?
There might be an opportunity here...
Perhaps the most distant galaxies are currently NOT where we imagine...
As we observe them now, we see them as they were billions of years ago.
What can we observe now that makes total sense and what can we observe now that diverges from expectability?
This may hold a clue to a resolution.
The outer event horizon has reabsorbed all those galaxies. It is on a return course and pulls on us with a ‘dark energy’.
You are assuming light travels 1 way at 186,000 miles per second? It is possible that light can travel one way at a instantaneous speed because their is no way to measure it from point A to point B… I believe they have to measure it from A to B and then back to A …then do the math…? 😇😎
@@danielseiser6189yawn
@@Naoj2024yes….because that’s how light works 🤦 its not instant one way and a set speed the other way lmao
We are not developed enough to understand all the information that the universe holds.
Maybe you should stop chewing crayons.
Agreed, Whippy. Try to get a life, willya, JB?
A very high percentage of up-to-college "cosmology" is nonsense simply because the authors use the word "dimensions" all over the place when what they are referring to is directions.
"Three-dimensional space," for instance, is a reference to that fact that once you've picked a random direction, there are only two more Euclidean ways you can go at right angles to it.
This is a correct statement about grade-school geometry, but really tells us buggerall about the dimensionality of the spacetime in which we live. On this planet.
@@TheDavidlloydjones
So basically what you're saying is nothing.
That is where collaboration comes into play. Divide up large tasks into smaller chunks and share the load and then compare and adjust results, and then do it again.
I agree!
What an exciting time to be alive! I'm actually excited that they're going to have to rewrite the textbooks.
It'll probably be a considerable re-write given that this supersized galaxy is 10 times larger and is apparently merging with another one at 500K years after the Big Bang (to me it sould like the Big Bang needs looked and the universe might need to be made older (it would be hilarious if they find a Galaxy that is so old as to defy the age fo the universe))
So are the textbook companies.
@@EndoftheBeginning17 it's like meeting a 2 year old with the history of a 40 year man. He has a career, a history, built a family, served his country. 🤯
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
It has been an "exciting time to be alive" for at least the past 600 years. Hardly a year went past without some groundbreaking discovery.
Man’s adventure thru scientific discoveries ultimately leads to the creative mind behind the existence of our universe. Fun to watch!😊
Nugen!!
From the microscopic matter and life, to the magnitude of the universe, it's unfathomable.
Breathtaking
Doesn't mean shit cause you're gonna grow old and die
How about micronscopic !!!!
on the grand scale … a micro organism and a galaxy are indisguingishable in size
With that attitude it is
new instrument , new discoveries, fun !!!
How many people did you preach to that the universe was 13.8billion years old? You should apologize to them for being wrong.
No matter how far we look in the universe, we see the same basic structure. Fully formed galaxies equally spaced. The problem is not the observation, it's the theory being reported as fact.
Absolutely.
Exactly. Anyone, (I believe) who is trying figure out the age of the universe will NEVER understand... It`s not old. It can`t be old because time itself does not exist anywhere in the universe, except within the human mind. Time is nothing more than a mental construct, devised by humans, (and ONLY humans) to help us measure, and therefore comprehend change. Past, present, and future all co-exist all at once, but the human brain simply can not comprehend this concept. We see change all around us, and NEED something to help it make sense to us. Thus, the invention of time. I believe that time should not even enter the equation, when trying to understand the creation of the universe. It does little but hinder our endeavors in this regard...Asking "when?" makes no sense.
Galaxies equally spaced?! That is the most retarded thing I've read today...and I'm retarded 😂
Yes, yes yes !
(Theoretically) physics
This is what science is all about: discovering new information and re-writing the textbooks.
Sounds pretty silly, they're always wrong.
Calm down people, this is what JWST was created for. This isn't a bad thing, this is freaking awesome!
It is a bad thing for people who spend their life writing about the age of the univers and big bang. Some people will have a hard time to let this go.
@@kilyk21 No it's not and don't just make up ignorant slander like that.
HOORAY!
@@kilyk21That's ridiculous. A cosmologist in the video literally says that he's happy for this news despite an "entire career" being turned on its head. Why? Because this is how scientists learn. Discovering something is false is every bit as important as any other discovery, if not more so.
Science grows by falsification of hypothesis. So this is amazing for scientists.
The more we discover about the universe, the more tiny and insignificant we human beings seem to become... But still it's so super fascinating. All in all, Earth is a living jewel in our own solar system.
We went from understanding 0.0000000000000000000000000000001% to 0.0000000000000000000000000000001.000001%
Sorta blows that God thing out that vast window huh ?
@@guzziguy1000 I remember seeing a television interview with Christopher Reeves (of Superman Fame) after his terrible accident when he was paralyzed from the neck down, when asked if he believed in God? he answered..(and I quote) I'd rather believe in a "God" if there wasn't a "God" then not to believe in a "God" if there was. As of answering your question..as for me no it doesn't.
True
@@av2245The more we learn about the mechanisms of the universe, the clearer it is that we know nothing at all.
Instead of it being a problem with physics, it's more likely to be an issue with the big bang and red shift.
and the religious creationists.
Big bang should have been thrown out ages ago, they just make it wackier every year.
@@LTPottenger Absolutely and wholeheartedly Agree. The problem is Earthkind [of all species] is Finite, birth and death. That does not necessitate that which is Outside and Beyond Earth is subject to being finite.
@@LTPottenger While we are at it we should go ahead and throw out gravity, erosion, genetic inheritance, paleontology as a whole as well as psychology and every aspect of medicinal science as they all have gone through massive revisions just like the big bang theory. I swear people do not understand how science works, its not about being right, its about being wrong so that we can attempt to be more right with the next idea. We are not omnificent, science is our methodology for attempting to understand our reality and reality just happens more complicated than simplistic religious and mythological explanations.
@@TheLoneLlama I do, they obviously don't and are conmen.
This is where Star Wars is actually going down in the Universe.
Far, far away is a bit of an understatement
Thank you! "Far, far away" is a modest guess.
Newest telescope, more questions. Perfect.
Lets get proof we are right … damn … more questions …
Yep, always gotta go getting into stuff just cause it's there. They'll learn
Oop's never mind.
I am still amazed by how we can see light years away from earth with such innovations.
Actually, we are seeing back into time.
You can see the nebula in Orion's belt with the naked eye
@@kennethhamby9811tomorrow comes today so time is just made up lol..
The JWST is such an incredible achievement.
Oh really. How about the mirrors of JWST not alighned properly, thus creating and distorting images that only my 5 years old son understands. ?😂
We should concentrate our efforts on such, rather than destroying ourselves country by country.
The size of the shit I took is an incredible achievement. The JWST is a tragic waste of time and resources that could be better spent actually helping humanity.
@@maybeitsyou1317The money people spend on pets would help all of humanity. All the money spent on jewelry would benefit humanity. All the money given to Israel to kill Muslims would benefit humanity. The ability to help all humanity has been here for a hundred years. Just no political will to do it. Science and knowledge benefit humanity. What have you done that benefits humanity.
It truly was - just a simple 250 step process to unfurl and set up. :)
THIS LESSON REMINDS ME OF THE WISE MAN WHO WALKED ALONG THE SHORE ONE NIGHT AND LOOKED UP AT THE STARS AND SAID TO HIMSELF...I DONT KNOW A DAMN THING...
Never gets old. We sit here worrying stressing through our lives.. we are merely literal specs of dust in space and time. Enjoy the time while you are still breathing.
How depressing.
Don't neglect your own creation, you're made from the very stuff the universe is made of. The stars have a place in this big jazz, and so do you. We're all children of creation: trees, animals, and stars.
@keepitsecret-dl1prwe may not know what conditions must be met for intelligent life to exist. We only what what conditions must be met for life like ours to exist. There could fully sentient rocks out there for all we know.
Nihilist cringe. Surely you don’t believe in morality and ethics either then, right?
I hate the, we are insignificant, thought pattern. It's the opposite . We are why the universe exists. To evolve a self aware creature.
Big bang may be a cop out like dark matter. It was just a place holder for something we don't understand. That is comforting and makes more sense anyway.
big bang is bs
Always has been
The idea is to match observation to theorie.
And work your way up.
100! The Big Bang and the geocentric universe are equally false.
But there have been many that tried to make the big bang theory out to be fact. It is a theory. Not fact. And like most theories, they are later shown to either be partially or completely incorrect. That is science.
This is how science works. We sharpen our tools, gather more data, and make models on what we know. Sometimes we find surprising new data that forces a fundamental rewriting of what our model contains. This isn't a bad thing, this is the exact goal: refining our knowledge.
Grifiting? 😆
@@thecrossedtheroadfund4289 No. Grinding.
If only that were true. Here's how it really works. You make observations. You then concoct a model which explains those measurements. When new measurements arise you cram them into the model. You will defend the model more vigorously than your corner office. Fleas on the back of an elephant. It's comical really but also sad.
@@westerngentSeen some dumb comments many times... this is up there with them
Just admit you were wrong. Also be more open minded about the other theories that are out there INCLUDING creation theory.
Time ran faster in the early universe. As the universe expands, time slows down
Seems to me the underrepresentation of electromagnetism in cosmology is a huge oversight. More likely that gravity is actually an emergent phenomenon due to electromagnetic processes in all atomic mass, and the electromagnetism is the true force acting over large distances. It would certainly dovetail with quantum mechanics better and probably eliminate the need for "dark energy" and "dark matter" (which are really just placeholder names for "we have no clue"😆).
if gravity were an EM force, you could block it or affect it. My theory is that EM affects a 3rd party source, which in turn, creates a negative pressure that pulls space-time into itself, and where space-time is stretched out, creates a positive pressure which we call dark energy. In which case we can hypothesize that quantum energy states not in perfect equilibrium create forces we perceive similar to how magnets don't exist unless the electrons all align in poles which would also explain why gravity is such a weak force. This is turn, would also explain why matter cannot travel as fast as light since matter is essentially energy at a high density so it drags more space-time around it, thus slowing it down relativistically. Furthermore, we can proof this in the lab. A photon can decay into a particle and its anti-particle (most commonly an electron and positron). thus confirming that space-time is more sensitive to unbalanced particles like electrons and less to photons(balanced). We can then determine that to make faster than light travel is relatively straightforward, we create an energy bubble that is balanced at the quantum scale forcing a positive pressure at the bow.
You lost me right after seems to me.
@@robertulrich3964an early hint of space-time travel
😂😂😂😂@@Hlbily-p5d
what he said
I had the presence of mind to know that, as a Cosmologist, I could not cope with such new information as described here. So I switched majors and am now a Cosmetologist.
Ha ha ha ha!!!!! btw Do you have a hobby of collecting antique door knobs? That would make you Handles Messiah! Peace and Love and all best wishes
Must have been a hair-raising awakening.
is that someone that does make up?? ;-)
Har, har. That were a good un.
Hell, the way it's turning out, it would appear most cosmetologists know MORE about the universe than most cosmologists! 😁
Everything we know is just a blip in the universe!
Well yea we are seeing just a snapshot of the universe, the universe doesn't care if we understand how it works.
That's generous
Human brain not designed to understand the universe
@@xCeLProDucTionZz What is understanding?
@@JaGGeR-
It's a bl-
Its called 'the observable universe' for a reason.
Really interesting and thought-provoking video. Well done. Thank you.
Of course the theory of how the universe was created will have to be revised in light of the JWST discoveries! This is what science is for; this is what JWST is for-to get us ever closer to the truth.
This should be enthusiastically welcomed by all true scientists and believers in science for it is the rational behind any scientific endeavor.
Carl Sagan does a graceful job on the theologians in the book version of his "Cosmos." When I worked for the church in the 1960s, I found people who lived up to his charitable picture to be fairly common.
You are hopelessly naive. They will cling to their pet theories harder than their corner offices. Count on it. Big Bang, ha! I always thought that construct was hogwash. Big Belch.
The answers may come from the properties of Quantum Mechanics at the beginning of the universe. All of the physics was different then.
What if there is no singular truth?
According to the Bible, we will never know the extent of Gods creation.
The observable universe just got bigger, and is still only a fraction of the whole universe. We’ll never know how big the universe is.
I believe the universe is infinite,,ever growing,,intact I believe that the universe is accelerating faster than light...
@@markb1487quantative infinite might be deemed as an impossibility
This is fascinating to me. Love this stuff.😊
As it goes in Philosophy, "Be a little less certain about the things you think you know". Keep them coming JWST! The 'crisis in cosmology' is a good thing, and only means there is more to discover =D.
Yes, and philosophical endeavor AND tye scientific method BITH are based on deduction
"In the beginning...." Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it,
And spirit to those who walk on it:
Who? WHO?? 😂
Amen! God did!
Let me guess! Big Joe from number twenty? Close or what?
@@trustandglorify42 Genesis
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Then he doesn't create stars until much later. So god either used magic water that didn't have oxygen(the O in H2O) or he somehow only created oxygen for the earth or something? Lol.
Ty JWST. At least we can evolve from what we learn from you.
@@ZeusKingOfAllGods Did you just "Lol" God?... You really are clueless, aren't you? 🤣
EVERY single thing that exists, does so because of Him, no "magic" needed... including powdered water if he wanted. 😏
The arrogance of keyboard atheists never cease to amaze.
Anyone still talking about the universe in terms of limits and singularities, is out of touch.
I'm so thankful for James Webb Telescope. ❤️
For showing us the limitations of sight?
We both know you've never read a physics text book
The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament showeth His handiwork
The universe up to man's existence was created in six days. Six God days.
Thank you. Personally I can contribute zero but do enjoy that this knowledge is available to us. 🇦🇺 12:40
We are like ants trying to understand a garden
Nay, we are bacteria trying to understand the continent
Or….Atoms trying to understand the Eiffel Tower?
The “ant” comparison is so off scale, other comments are closer.
Vedas say that our universe is about 155.52 trillion human years old, and its total life span is 311.04 trillion human years (which is equivalent to 100 years of Brahma).
This from a multi millennium old tradition! a time when even a thousand years seemed like a big timeline!
@keepitsecret-dl1pr No, it's highly _unlikely_ and naive in the extreme to assume we are the only "ants". We'll just likely never exist within space close enough to find each other, or close enough in time to exist at the same time. Either billions of years apart, or trillions of lightyears apart.
Who's in charge of counting the number of stars in a galaxy 200,000 Light Years from Earth? Fascinating!
Oh great, now I have to start over.
One, two, three ...
I am and I can tell you stars don’t exist. Nothing at all. It's just an optical illusion.
Dave
This is not a problem, it's awesome! This is what science is all about.
He made the stars also
@@annettewatson3706 All deities are manmade. Ancient man created beliefs to explain the mysteries of life, death, disease, earthquakes, etc. Each culture created their own beliefs which is why there are thousands of deities on Earth. Mountain cultures didn't need a tsunami god and tropical cultures didn't need a snow god. Those cultural beliefs morphed over time into religion.
Science seems to be more about being right than being accurate.
@@timothyandrewnielsen so religion isn't about being right.... and then killing people who disagree?
Yeah those egos of scientists have made them feel like this is problematic lol…when science is forever-changing..always has, always will.
Stunning and beauriful!
"The important thing is never to stop questioning."
Albert Einstein
Exactly why I question "climate change" 😂
If we've learned this much by 2024 imagine how much we will have learned by 2124 considering how little we knew in1924.
The Iphone 140. Now costing 4 million. And hopefully by then Ikea furniture that actually has screws that fit.
That is, if humanity isn't living like the stone age again due to a nuclear exchange. The world is on the doorstep of WW3
Hopefully hunanity will still exist . The way there going now not to sure we will have a future .🔥
Our species will be extinct in another 100 years
"Humanity " would need to move from the monetary systems, the political system and the religious institutions and perhaps there may be some hope in moving forward. @Bluets023
Its funny how they admit that they don't know, but at the same time gives a lecture like they do know about the universe and speaks on the subjects like there facts.
Better than using a 2000+ year old book written by Bronze Age Goat herders and claiming to know everything.
@@aliceputt3133💯👍💛
They can only report on what they know thus far. As they get more info things change.
That’s the way science works, it changes as better evidence becomes available. until then while still called a theory.A theory in science isn’t what most people think a theory is. It shows people don’t understand science, in the US people would rather believe in the Goat Herders Guide to the Galaxy than science. Why is it people would rather have a magical answer than a logical one?
@@aliceputt3133
This is extraordinary!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hey, our model of the universe doesn't work."
"No problem, just add some imaginary stuff, call it dark matter, and viola!"
Or maybe oboe? Lol
@paulwolf3302 Agreed. Its all theory.
@@stwillz01 Not even, I would say hypothesis.
Exactly
You guys should have paid more attention many years ago. It's probably too late now.
The only reason I would ever wish immortality for myself would be to uncover all the secrets the universe holds!
You are infinite. You are just having a temporary human existence.
It's the process of cutting that creates the pieces.
Eternity on this planet would be a bad thing
@@motorcitymadman146I would change to "at such level of societal and moral development". But I would go so far as to say that with our current course civilization will simply degrade to preindustrial levels in 70-150 years max.
Your mortality will allow you to know all of these things. When we meet the Creator we learn it.
This is my theory. I don't mind sharing it, believing that finding the truth is more important than any accolades afforded whomever discovers and PROVES that truth.
We're not only looking across vast distances, we are looking through TIME, and the 'graphene sheets' of space. It is imperfections therein, we find a magnifying effect, both in size, and the dilation of space-time (the three dimensions of space, augmented with the fourth dimension of time), as seen through the lens of the Webb Telescope, and taking into account, the resultant equations, alongside Hubble's constants!
We see those distant galaxies as younger than they are, because the light we see IS, but also because of the 'lens affect' we are witness to, affords a more CURRENT IMAGE of those galaxies, which are in fact, WAY BEYOND older than our own!
Much in the way we cannot see beyond an horizon, unless we elevate our viewpoint (where a new horizon then blocks our view), and the way the atmospere of our own planet magnifies our image of the rising Sun or Moon, making each appear larger; the fabric of space substitutes our atmosphere in the near vacuum of 'outer space', and concomitantly magnifies what we can see, close to, or at, the horizon.
There is much more, of course, but I kept this simple for ease of understanding, and average attention spans....(meaning, "I don't wish to be a COMPLETE bore!")
I'd be interested in the opinions of those more intelligent or knowledgable than I.
Please....no trolls, I'm too busy to have to contend with inanities.
Thank you for reading this.
I’m not scientifically trained, that said, your interpretation seems intuitively sound. At the core, it seems that certain suppositions are skewing our perception of the real picture. Everything needs to be put on the table - analyzed and cross examined in relation with the rest . We have no reason to blindly believe that our yardstick is fool proof across time and space.
Plausible.
Well done sir!
red light stretch across space
Now this is news I love!
Just proves that the more Humans think they know, they know nothing!
Space, though I'm not interested in going there, is absolutely mind blowing!!!
I appreciate those who bring this brilliant information back to Earth!
Is it the last word in Science, I highly doubt it, but even these tid bits are more than fascinating! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
No wonder Science was my favorite subject in School..❤❤
Amazing - the more we learn, the more we realise how awesome creation is.
But the atheists and other smug non-believers who shape the current wisdom concerning the origin of the universe in the scientific community will do anything they can to avoid attributing it to the work of the infinite God, or admit the Biblical timeline of thousands of years might actually be correct. It's fun to watch them twist themselves into ever-tighter pretzel shapes when trying to explain what they see without the context of God and creation. OF COURSE, they were going to find fully-formed, apparently "old" galaxies and other objects at the edge of observable space. I think God is laughing himself silly at all these pretentious, "learned" individuals who are so sure of their intellectual superiority, but yet compared to Him they know next door to nothing. We will never be able to fully understand how God did what He did, because it is impossible for we finite humans to apprehend the Infinite God. But He gave us His Word which tells us that He created the heavens, stars, and other celestial objects on Day 4 AFTER He created the Earth. Since the opinions of secular scientists are unreliable and change all the time, as evidently witnessed by this entire discussion of the Big Bang Theory; and whereas God''s Word is reliable and unchanging, it is His Word that I choose to use as the underlying foundation for my worldview.
Beautiful...
When you think you know everything. The Webb is changing facts
There were no facts to begin with. Only theories
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
We are monkey living in a cage we can barley leave our atmosphere we know nothing!
science technically never proves anything. things can get to nearly perfect proof, but science allows for ANY evidence to the contrary to change things. the only people who think they know everything are religious nuts.... who ironically know the least
Nobody thinks they know everything … well, except my brother and mom … they are just wanting proof for the theories we have … that did not work out as expected …
Makes sense if gravity was stronger in the early universe. It would cause matter to coalesce more quickly. And a stronger gravitational constant in an early universe makes sense when we think of gravity as pressure from the fabric of space pushing against and through matter. An early universe would have a denser fabric, exerting greater pressure, causing galaxies to form more quickly.
Em forces ignored... Stupid
Or stronger electromagnetic fields.
@@sloppyjoe1051 They are totally ignored and anyone mentioning them is a heretic and blackballed. This is why the Bbt is so crap. And 'astronomers ' perplexed and surprised with every new observation.
What a grate idea to build this telescope , has open our eyes like never before, what else is to come ? Every step in one closer to understand the universe ❤
This is amazing we have been mostly relying on Hubble which was built in the 90s and technology has advanced rapidly since then. I love hubble and we are indebted to its service, but we have waited a long time for a new telescope. We need more advanced space exploration tech up there.
Once again science and scientists expand the frontiers of our knowledge to what remains the great unknown from our small and insignificant planet. Thank you.
Considering the Universe is constantly expanding, it begs the questions: Expanding into what? Where is the Universe?
Why is the universe
@@scroopynooperz9051 That one is easy. Because God wanted to create it.
@@sjp35productions6 who created god - does he wonder about the purpose of his existence?
@@scroopynooperz9051 I accept that God…Is. Beyond that, I’m not going to question His existence; whether it be past, present, or future.
@@sjp35productions6 by your rationale, why not just save a step and conclude that the universe "just is"? Why introduce additional inexplicable parameters?
In other words, if you conclude that god has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed in some or other form? There's no need to introduce anything "extra" - at least until the evidence for such a creator presents itself
Great pics for a Webb cam. 🙂
It’s an amazing endless subject to work on. We will never ever know the full story, but we won’t stop trying
big bang ---- god ----- well folks "0ur" universe is the result of a division of a cell into 2 parts as we see in the world smaller than ourselves - where all this came from will "never" be solved - you can see where the "god"theory took us ------------- practice of religion which is the greatest evil ever - destruction of humanity and its abode for delusional concepts of our existence --- our earth can or could only support a population of maybe 500 million humans ----in 20-30 years or way less we will be faced with "now what do we do" oceans and earth is on it's death bed and the ignorance derived from belief in magical phenomenal and super unnatural processes , ie , religion has placed earth and its living inhabitants on the verge of the greatest evil the destruction of a system created by a process greater than our combined intelligence !!!!!
It means Science is always Evolving and current Theories can be disproven at anytime. It is important to have open discussions NOT CENSORSHIP BY POLITICIANS. This makes Science Great Again.
Dang I LOVE when human hubris is challenged 😂😂😂😂
Yeah, such hubris in those scientists knowingly holding a tentative position based and the best current data available, then when new data is available they celebrate it and work to modify their ideas to account for, again, the best current data available. Such hubris.
Which humans hubris?
You mean we really don't know what happened billions of years ago at distances that are hard to fathom what a shocker.
Trying to understand infinity with the mind seems like a hopeless mission.
If you think astrophysics is daunting, try looking at yourself in the mirror... in total honesty, no excuses:
Who are you?
Knowledge of all things begins with the increased clarity of perception one gains through the pursuit of self-knowledge.
That is the foundation & basis upon which all observers stand.
Exactly!
The universe isn’t truly infinite, though. Infinity means unending in both directions. The universe only has no ending in one direction. All these primordial galaxies mean is that either our understanding of how galaxies form is wrong or the universe is older than what we thought. This does not mean that the universe has no beginning.
There is no material object that you can point to that is infinite.
Infinity has no beginning and has no end. The universe began to exist.
Infinity isn't even a mathematical construct, it's an ideological construct, which has no correlation in the material world. In other words you cannot add / subtract / divide / multiply / Factor Infinity through Math.
So to use Infinity as a basis of your argument is already invalid.
@@alyjiyu That question, like what is the universe expanding into, if it is expanding at all ..... are unknowable and will always be unknowable. They take the focus off enjoying life and our loved ones. So we dont know ...... we are here for such a short time ..... enjoy and dont hurt anyone ..... thats it. Zen.
We have no evidence of dark matter existing, so it sort of makes sense to hypothesize that it may not exist, at least the way we think. It always struck me that dark matter was only added to the model to account for discrepancies in the expansion rate. Instead of essentially ignoring it, now hopefully we can actually discover something about it!
If Dark matter existed, there would have to be far more of it than light matter. Yet it seems to have no effect on objects traveling through it. Also, as invisible as it seems to be, such a massive amount of any matter would obscure completely our view of any distant celestial objects. We would also never be able to figure the effect on red shift from it. Are we looking at the shift of the dark matter?
Science: "We know pretty much everything, with a high confidence."
Science, a little later: "We were wrong."
Scientists have made Science into a false religion.
Said no scientist ever.
Grow up.
While religion goes:
"We believe hard enough so we don't need proof"
Science doesn't claim to know everything. That's the beauty of science, no one has ever said they were the all powerful holders of knowledge. It takes a lot of courage and bravery to say "we got something wrong, let's have another go" it shows maturity.
Don't see religion ever admitting they got things wrong...
@@Shadowknightneo Bullshit. That is not how it is. Now if you disagree with Science, you are ridiculed complete with name calling. If you do not subscribe to Evolution then you are a crack pot. If you believe in God then you are delusional and it goes on and on.
Religion: "I don't understand what causes thunder, lightning, earthquakes, or volcanic eruptions... Aha! God is angry, of course! Quick, grab a virgin... I know how to fix this!"
For humans to think we know how the universe was created is hilarious
Not at all. It’s called science.
@jerrypolverino6025 science! That thing that constantly changes!
@@kevinpickford8714 Science advances and learns. That’s the entire point of science, learning and understanding means advancement. Things that do not change cause problems.
@@jerrypolverino6025 thank you for further validating my comment.
@@kevinpickford8714 So you see things that do not change by learning as superior to things that do?
There is nothing that has to be changed as we don't know anything about the start of the universe anyways. It's all guesses and the age of the universe has been changed many times anyhow based on new information we find out. This is how science works.
Thank you! Honesty! I am impressed.
Exactly. All of this unexpected stuff was expected to happen.
God knows when He made it !
@@bobwentz527 Amen.
@@ZeusKingOfAllGods Wow! What a handle. So, how's things going on Olympus? I see that your stable of worshipers is running a little thin these days. Judging from that storm the other night you are not running short of thunderbolts. Uncertainty, a funny concept coming from a god ruled by the fates, but heck, who's counting?
Every time we put a more powerful telescope into use, the universe gets bigger and older. We should get it by now that we have no idea how big the universe is, how old it is, and that we may not be the only "universe". We actually have no idea what our known universe even currently looks like.
@4:24 It’s there. That’s what it looks like .
@@shechshire The largest part of our universe will never be seen on earth due to expansion and the speed of light. We currently only see a fraction of what is most likely out there.
@@vchism712 Most likely… Meaning you don’t know. Doug wanted to know the shape & that’s what we got. Are you proposing there’s something behind the Big Bang?
That is an absolutely awesome discovery that should excite us all. Ive always said that someday we`ll find out the nature of reality is far stranger than we imagined. Everything from the beginnings of the universe to what happens after death. Some day we`ll find out we had no idea and the reality is far more fascinating then our theories in science and religious nonsense.
Religion dumbs us down by restricting our thinking, so they can control.
They know these objects are older than the universe but do not know what they are. Brilliant! 😂
They just can't seem to let go of the idea of "The Big Bang!" All of this is so easy to explain if they would just admit there was no big bang.
Well go on explain??
@@JakeCuthbert It's pretty obvious there was no big bang with the discovery of these huge galaxies formed as they are. They just don't admit there wasn't a big bang in order to appease the "experts" that have said there was for their decades career that would be shown to have been a waste of time!
Please enlighten us with your discovery
@@JakeCuthbert It's obvious there was no big bang because of the size and development of the several galaxies that have been discovered much earlier than would be the case if a "big bang" started it all. The only reason they aren't abandoning that theory is because of the countless university types that have spent decades teaching and believing it. Their "careers" will be pointless so they say now that their model of how quickly galaxies and stars develop has to be changed.
@@australien6611 The universe has always been. As well as countless others in the multiverse. Quantum physics is pointing to this as unmistakable.
The universe may be far older than we think, a lot older. Our dating may not even be remotely in the ballpark.
"old" does not apply to eternity. The universe is eternal.
Or maybe just over 6000 yrs old but created with the appearance of age, just like when the eternal God created Adam and Eve as adults and not babies.
@@dansmith9724 a deceitful God!
@@cosmodradekit’s deceitful to create an adult instead of an infant that grows to adulthood?!?😮🙄
@@rhpicayune it is deceitful to create a universe that is actually young, but appears old not only to common sense, but to our best science.
This points to the universe being much larger and older than some say it is. It could be infinite. After all, we do call it "The Universe".
Or very very much younger.
@@citoante how can it be much younger if we're finding things 13 billion light years? younger than what? younger than what the big bang model says? no, that would make you really stupid, younger than infinity also doesn't make sense because it's infinite, time is meaningless lol
@@xecyc7951 it all operates on the assumption that speed of light is a constant. What if it is not?
@@citoante Do they not teach science in school anymore? A fourth grader should know the answer to that question. Why don't you know the answer?
@@normdeplume6492 it all operates on the assumption that speed of light is a constant. What if it is not?
Anything James Webb does is impressive 👍✨🙏
The cosmic energy which we term "love" glues things together. Gravity is this energy at the etheric level.
you must have watched the movie interstellar lol
Makes me wonder how big that galaxie is currently? Because we are seeing it from the past, it could have merged with many more galaxies since then.
Most likely they are now the giant ellipticals at the centers of giant galaxy clusters and superclusters.
Ill tell that to my wife next time I fart
@@timothyandrewnielsen Are you trying to combine farts together?
this is what happens when "People start believeing" that "Everything" evolves around ....their own ass....lmao....
What a strange post. Does the scientific method upset you? This is how science works. A hypothesis is generated based on the information we have available at the time. Then if it is proven to be wrong science adapts to the new information and looks for new hypotheses. In the meantime our understanding grows, our technology advances, and we progress. This keeps going until something is proven beyond any doubt and we move onto other questions. I'm guessing by your post that you don't understand science much - religious perhaps? If we didn't want to be proven right or wrong we wouldn't invent things to check them out. We would just stop developing and blindly believe whatever we are told... sound familiar?
@@ploppyploppy What are you on about try watching this video, no sjw reqiured here...ok! also how have you connected religion to this video...."ploppyploppy" seems like an apt handle for you!.
@@ploppyploppyHow did science work during covid..it didn't. Plenty of examples, we have a big problem in science, its about group pressure, money, politics.
@@rudypieplenbosch6752 well said 👍
@@rudypieplenbosch6752 how in the world do you come to the conclusion that science didn’t work during Covid? Science quickly figured out the nature of the virus and how it was infecting people. Science also predicted that if the virus wasn’t quarantined, it would spread all over the place which it did. In countries that ignored the science they had a very high mortality rate early on. In countries like the United States, where vaccinations became politicized, countless people died unnecessarily, and it was only until the vaccination was widely distributed that the mortality rate went down. Where exactly was the failure of science here?
Time flows at different rates in different regions of the universe. Therefore you can’t quantify its age. Sorted
What is the proof of this theory? It definitely goes against Einstein's theories....
Interesting out of the box thinking.
We managed to move on from the creation of the universe in 6 days thing, we can move on again, this is a good reminder that science is dynamic, always changing, nothing is set in stone, the moment you think it is,the moment science becomes religion.
The crazy part is the Big Bang Theory, as it became known. Was first postulated by a Catholic priest who was a friend of Einstein. And then there's the question; How long is one day for God?
Maybe if the Human race doesn't destroy itself, we will advance far enough for answers. Or maybe if we survive long enough. It will be us saying Let There Be Light. But looking around at the state of our civilization. I doubt we have much longer much longer to answer, prove, or disprove anything.
@user-ob5rg3iq8r the Bible only states the earth and solar system was created in 6 days ,sadly you are miss informed.sader still if your metaphysical beliefs are i came from goop and will be poop is pathetic.truly I wish you will find truth or truth will find you.
Professor Carlos Frank, ICC, Durham University: "I spend all my life developing a particular theory of the universe and now...is being questioned..." Your theories are lies, just because you all add "science" to your lies doesn't make it science: you all counter science. The universe IS expanding, always has been, but over recent years many, not all, scientists have gone with the lie or, theory, that no, it is not expanding just to spite The Bible, The Truth. And since your lies have become very obvious and fail, you have mindlessly decided there must be multiverses to fit your deceiving calculations. IF you are Actually honest, take a look around you worldwide, the world has become very, very messy: "The Great Tribulation" will soon come, but you still have time to make up your minds. Pray to God, in Jesus's name, to help you find his true self and, I guarantee you you will, his True people will find you and you will without fail come to know the truth, "and the truth will set you free" from the bonds this greedy, selfish, evil, etc., world offers. But you MUST put aside any and all biases and prejudices you may have towards a certain religion, else you wont allow the truth into your hearts (Isaiah 2:2-4; Daniel 12:7-10; Acts 15:14-18; 2 Timothy 3:1-7 [or -13]; 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 and more). The history of the Earth and humankind, and the science of the great cosmos down to the living cell/DNA is all proven accurately to there being a creator who created the universe by Honest scientists yes, PHD's.
Lewis Carroll was right that we enter 'Wonderland' in the micro & macro, and that things are only predictable at 'normal size'.
Go ask Alice- when she was just small.
What is "normal size"?
Where then, is the edge of perception and scale?
@@paulciampo2104 About the sub atomic and Universe size, I expect.
That is the whole point of science, the telescope. Find the limits of your theories.
What if it disproves the existence of the theories.
Rewriting textbooks from the old guesses to the new guesses. Brilliant!!!
If energy cannot be created or destroyed, then it was, is, and will always be here in one form or another.
Sounds reasonable to me.
How is that relevant to these discoveries?
This is the reason I hope lightspeed travel will be available in the far future. There’s no telling what our species will accomplish if it survives.
Do you realize that at light speed how long it would take to even reach our nearest galaxies?
Super position engine is .. (way) faster,i wonder when the 1st sparky works it out and builds one .. i also wonder when the power steals it for themselves
We barely survived the changes at our home planet Imagine people thinking our fragile body will survive on another planet that could potentially be totally different from this planet. That would require thousands of years of evolution just to scratch the limitations of our physiologic, physic, immune system and bones. It will need dna to change, the gravity divergences in other planet will chance our body format, each planet would require the same amount of years of development that we aprox had here... lmao too much out of our reach
And get platted against an astroid? That could really ruin your day.
Key words " if it survives"
Thanks for the science fiction presentation kaku
It strikes me that it's like peering through someone's letterbox to decide what's in their loft. I think taking a close look at the Hubble Constant and other assumptions regarding velocity and distance might be a good idea.
As time dilation is dependant on gravity and gravity is dependant on mass, then time doesn't begin until mass develops sufficient gravity to dilate time from instant/infinite to todays observable phenomena.
Which takes time.
@@stevenparker8076 But if time is instant before the time dilation of the gravity well forms, then it forms before time begins ie. instantly from our perspective.
The universe being as large as it is, couldn't there have been big bangs in far away places that happened in different times that account for galaxies that look mature that far away. There could be so many different answers for what we now see with the James Webb telescope.
It's inspiring that cosmology is validating itself by constantly questioning its assertions.
Yeah... in the same way that the man pissing into the wind is validating that fact by the evidence of urine down his pant leg.
Damn it can see billions of years in the past , it's unreal