One trick that I've found to help setting the initial tack on thin stock that loses its heat quickly (especially in a cold, Canadian winter shop) is to set a block of wood on the avil and setting the weld on that. It gets a bit smoky, but the wood draws the heat out of the stock much slower than a cold anvil. Once the initial tack is set, then I finish the next welding heats on the anvil, itself.
last week I was forging a wall hanger for a scarf. I made one end and then I started to wonder what to do with the other one. I thought to myself "I've seen so many animal heads tutorials, why not try it", I bent the bar, put it into the fire, took it out, struck and oh boy the sparks all around the shop! It worked! (It was not my first succesful weld, tho I was soooo amused that it was so easy) This tutorials have disenchanted (I hope you use this phrase the same way I do in my language ) forgewelding for me and I'm not afraid of trying to do it anymore Thank you
Very helpful. It's nice to see that everyone makes mistakes sometimes. Did some forge welding on some tongs last night. First attempt was a failure. Second time was the charm. Still need to work on my scarfs
Great video Roy. I'm just learning how to forge weld. I wish I could remember who put up a video on forge welding so I could give him credit, but who ever he was, he said that it really helps to get the forge up to welding heat before you put the metal in the fire and then just use enough air to keep it at welding heat. I tried it and that helped me more than anything else.Thanks
Just like modern welding (stick or wire), first *tack* it into place. Check alignment, and then full weld. In wire welds, you have the option of blending with a grinder. In forge welding, you blend at the anvil. Sound true Roy?
Hey Roy, great video as always. Just curious to know what the process would be for forge welding sheet steel into a tube/pipe. Is there still a scarfing process or because of the thin cross section is it not required? I know the process for welding sockets for tools, but I don’t recall anyone scarfing prior to. Is there a different process for welding metals of differing thicknesses? Thanks - Ben
Good instruction Roy, I need to practice more, but my coke forge is a bit too far from my anvil and can't bring it closer as there is no room under back patio.
Roy, would it be possible to do a video focusing on blending scarfs in? I don’t have any trouble getting the main stock to stick, but getting the scarfs blended hasn’t worked well for me at all, pretty much regardless of heat, oxygen mix, efficient movements or flux. I do use a gas forge.
Thank you Roy I am wondering about forging welding do you get anything about penetration like in stick welding, I think I have some kind of little bit memory coming back to me , be blessed thank you very much for sharing this
I just wish there was a way that you could give people a close up view of what to look for while the pieces were still in the forge so they could better judge when they are hot enough to weld.
Is it possible that scale formed the the first time you tried to weld and contaminated the weld or does it not form at welding/near welding temperatures?
I don’t see my comment? I assume it’s because I used proper (now politically/socially incorrect) terminology. Could you do a video on a proper Butt weld? I did one following instructions I read but I don’t think it turned out how it was supposed to. I’m a visual learner, so a video would help me greatly.
Roy this lap/ scarf weld it looks a lot like the fagget weld done by John at black bear forge i am just pondering if they are the same type of weld?.... also i just want to say i mean nothing by the term fagget weld its just what it was called. Thanks Roy and Jess.
A fagget weld is quite different and means to stack or fold into a pile... A lap weld refers to lapping the two welding planes and only using part of the material from both pieces of stock. I'm good with the historical term all though made a video on performing a faggett weld but had to change the title of it to accordion weld because of RUclips..
Thanks for the education Roy. I worked with a farrier a long time ago and when we mad bar shoes that is what he called the weld. Thank you for all that you do.
I'm picking up what you are putting down... thank you i just wasnt sure if i was missing something i am new to this and am trying to soak up as much information as i can. Thanks for the video's they are a great help and inspiration.
I think it's written as "faggot". Or at least that's what I've always seen in the old manuals. And I have seen pictures where they have entire piles of metal they weld up. I don't think that could be done with mild steel, at least without some major equipment. They would have had wrought iron back then, and steel would probably be kept out of the pile to be used for other purposes.
These are the fundamentals I never formally learned. Very helpful to hear this stuff laid out. Thanks.
Thanks man for stopping by the channel! Hope you have a great week :-)🔨🔥
One trick that I've found to help setting the initial tack on thin stock that loses its heat quickly (especially in a cold, Canadian winter shop) is to set a block of wood on the avil and setting the weld on that. It gets a bit smoky, but the wood draws the heat out of the stock much slower than a cold anvil. Once the initial tack is set, then I finish the next welding heats on the anvil, itself.
last week I was forging a wall hanger for a scarf. I made one end and then I started to wonder what to do with the other one. I thought to myself "I've seen so many animal heads tutorials, why not try it", I bent the bar, put it into the fire, took it out, struck and oh boy the sparks all around the shop! It worked! (It was not my first succesful weld, tho I was soooo amused that it was so easy) This tutorials have disenchanted (I hope you use this phrase the same way I do in my language ) forgewelding for me and I'm not afraid of trying to do it anymore
Thank you
Great video Roy, I certainly found value in it, can't wait to get some welding practise in when fire bans are over!
Very helpful. It's nice to see that everyone makes mistakes sometimes. Did some forge welding on some tongs last night. First attempt was a failure. Second time was the charm. Still need to work on my scarfs
Guess I'll have to chop up a piece of quarter by one and spend some time welding back together. Good tip
Thanks for this! Also thanks for including your failure at first. I haven’t yet tried forge welding and it looks fun to try.
Great video Roy. I'm just learning how to forge weld. I wish I could remember who put up a video on forge welding so I could give him credit, but who ever he was, he said that it really helps to get the forge up to welding heat before you put the metal in the fire and then just use enough air to keep it at welding heat. I tried it and that helped me more than anything else.Thanks
That big anvil does make me a little jealous after using my DIY railway track anvil...
Great work Roy. Like the forge welding tutorials.
Roy, do you ever have days where you find you just can't forge weld? And what do you do? I don't expect it would be a common occurrence.
Another great video to add to library Roy. Thank you
I like the way you explain the process as you go along. Learned quite a bit. I'm taking my first class in May.
Just like modern welding (stick or wire), first *tack* it into place. Check alignment, and then full weld. In wire welds, you have the option of blending with a grinder. In forge welding, you blend at the anvil. Sound true Roy?
Always enjoy your videos and as always this one is informative. Thanks for your time and dedication
Hey Roy, great video as always. Just curious to know what the process would be for forge welding sheet steel into a tube/pipe. Is there still a scarfing process or because of the thin cross section is it not required? I know the process for welding sockets for tools, but I don’t recall anyone scarfing prior to. Is there a different process for welding metals of differing thicknesses? Thanks - Ben
Thanks for the encouragement Roy!! Wayne
Lap welds are cool @CCIW.
What you know its true...
Blessed days yall, Crawford out
Good instruction Roy, I need to practice more, but my coke forge is a bit too far from my anvil and can't bring it closer as there is no room under back patio.
Great video Roy!
Great video as always.
Excellent! You even answered questions I didn't know I needed to ask, however my wife wants to know, "why the green tape?"
Phil it's so if he takes his tools to a class or demonstration he can identify his tools.👍👍
I seen in one of his videos the tape represents the cold end of the tool .
Roy, would it be possible to do a video focusing on blending scarfs in? I don’t have any trouble getting the main stock to stick, but getting the scarfs blended hasn’t worked well for me at all, pretty much regardless of heat, oxygen mix, efficient movements or flux. I do use a gas forge.
Yes I can do that for you and thank you for the suggestion :-)
Christ Centered Ironworks Thank you for doing this forge welding series!
Thank you Roy I am wondering about forging welding do you get anything about penetration like in stick welding, I think I have some kind of little bit memory coming back to me , be blessed thank you very much for sharing this
I just wish there was a way that you could give people a close up view of what to look for while the pieces were still in the forge so they could better judge when they are hot enough to weld.
great video Roy i just got a guillotine tool from uncle buck should i harden the dies thanks again
Is it possible that scale formed the the first time you tried to weld and contaminated the weld or does it not form at welding/near welding temperatures?
I don’t see my comment? I assume it’s because I used proper (now politically/socially incorrect) terminology. Could you do a video on a proper Butt weld? I did one following instructions I read but I don’t think it turned out how it was supposed to. I’m a visual learner, so a video would help me greatly.
Ty for your time Roy. How did the first fire weld happen? Does anybody know the story? was it an accident? Just curious 👍👍⚒ On!!!
Once upon a time there was a smith who was prone to falling over, and who was known to overheat his steel.....
@@ValhallaIronworks lol lol
@@ValhallaIronworks probibly Alex. Lol
Your the Mr Roger's of black smithing lol
Roy this lap/ scarf weld it looks a lot like the fagget weld done by John at black bear forge i am just pondering if they are the same type of weld?.... also i just want to say i mean nothing by the term fagget weld its just what it was called.
Thanks Roy and Jess.
It's the same weld. Just different names depending on what part of the world you're from.
A fagget weld is quite different and means to stack or fold into a pile... A lap weld refers to lapping the two welding planes and only using part of the material from both pieces of stock. I'm good with the historical term all though made a video on performing a faggett weld but had to change the title of it to accordion weld because of RUclips..
Thanks for the education Roy. I worked with a farrier a long time ago and when we mad bar shoes that is what he called the weld. Thank you for all that you do.
I'm picking up what you are putting down... thank you i just wasnt sure if i was missing something i am new to this and am trying to soak up as much information as i can.
Thanks for the video's they are a great help and inspiration.
I think it's written as "faggot". Or at least that's what I've always seen in the old manuals. And I have seen pictures where they have entire piles of metal they weld up. I don't think that could be done with mild steel, at least without some major equipment. They would have had wrought iron back then, and steel would probably be kept out of the pile to be used for other purposes.
Gee mate you have to be quick don't you?