Think about this: there will be THREE PAGES of shooters. You could fit all of the brellas, brushes, splatanas and stringers on a SINGLE page with room to spare. Something is going very wrong here.
@@goldenninja9053 you act like they are not going to get to the other once they done with the shooters in fact they only have few shooters left before they start doing re skins of the other weapons they even added a none shooter in this weapon with the roller
@@ultmewtwo The fact that we have to wait for them to finish with shooters before entire classes can get their time in the sun in a problem unto itself. There’s no reason Splatana and Stringer shouldn’t already have new main weapons by this point
@@Flare0661Welcome to Splatoon 3. If you're not playing Splash-o-Matic, Neo Splash-o-Matic, Tentatek Splatershot or Sloshing Machine, you aren't gonna win
Bro I just want more Zips and Inkjets in the game, they're skillcap flank specials that may not be great ATM but they're incredibly healthy for comp diversity.
This. We only have 3 jet weapons, while in 2 I remember seeing one in almost every match because so many weapons had it. Sometimes it feels like it isn't even in this game
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 yeah of course. I’m saying that right now in the game the vanilla tri slosher is the only thing using inkjet since ballpoint just doesn’t get picked
@@ActualAlien_ in the heat pf the game you don’t have time to read the username and neither do your teammates and also it doesn’t explain what is the threat: “charger left” is a lot different then “tetra left”
I feel like Nintendo is intentionally trying to not pick the community's preferred kits because then it looks like the pay attention to the community. Which they don't like because they're Nintendo.
The problem is everyone is happy to type and scream in the comments but no one will stop playing the game. You guys want Nintendo to listen? Put your wallet where your mouth is.
@@johndelanie3649 problem with that is, we've already bought the game. They have their money, why would they care now? It's not like there's in game purchases like a battle pass or microstransactions
I think something needs to be said about making Splatoon 3 kits based on past kits. Namely, the splash getting tri-strike instead of Zipcaster because it’s traditionally had a bomb rush kit. We’re getting kits that do the same thing because the devs are too afraid to try something new. It’s hurting stuff that didn’t have equivalents in older games like Zipcaster.
I had this same thought last night, even the non-shooter kits are references to Splat1 kits On top of the first dlc just being Inkopolis? Makes me think that Nintendo is leaning on splat1 nostalgia
@@ARMed_PIrate It’s not identical but it’s what the devs have made the bomb rush of splatoon 3. You displace people at multiple locations with throwable objects, they’re pretty similar. Just look at what weapons have tri strike, a good chunk of them have had bomb rush at some point.
Splash priviledge is real in this game, this goes beyond just shooter priviledge. This weapon has now gotten 2 kits one of which is meta defining and the other one looks to be slightly outclassed but still near perfect. Can't believe Splash got two great kits while most weapons can barely manage one right now (Ballpoint still makes me very sad). Also Jet was robbed. The new kit plays the same as the old kit as a support/backline only the new one outclasses the old one completely. Really makes me wonder wtf the devs are thinking with this season.
The special design has gotten so much smarter and in general nintendo seemed to massively improve between Spl2 and Spl3 game design wise, and now they do this…
The worst thing about the shooter privilege right now is that they're not even going for wholy unique kits right here. The shooters are near identical in how they work compared to other classes and putting a nigh identical kit on two seperate shooters is abysmally sad. And the most unique shooter in the bunch (GUYS THE WEAPON I'M TALKING ABOUT IS L-3, NOT JET SQUELCHER) gets an overlapping kit with mini in the literal worst kit combo they could've overlapped. As a reminder, 2 of the 17 specials in the game are yet to get new kits since day 1 and we have 6 STAMP WEAPONS NOW. God here's hoping we're basically done with the privilege kits for a long time so we can get to the actually interesting ones faster. It wouldn’t surprise me if we burned through the last 3 non-Nova shooters next patch to get them over with for roughly 3 more seasons…
Lmao it's not gonna happen, Nintendo could care less because splatoon will make them just as much money. What are pro players gonna do? Not go to tournaments? Channels like this rely on Splatoon because that's the basket they've put all their eggs in to. It won't change because there's 0 negative repercussions for Nintendo if they keep going the way they are.
Kit overlap really does suck a lot. L-3 D makes me cry. I already got scared away from Mini for it’s bad burst bomb kit and now my other more-interesting shooter with the same range that I used even more gets the same fate. I just wanna have fun with these less traditional weapons….
With Neo Splash having Triple Inkstrike it makes it feel like there's less of a reason to pick Brella, though that happened when shooters starting having it
As a Jet Squelcher fan what hurts the most isn't the new kit (I'll take it over vanilla) but getting a dull kit while Splash gets... whatever the hell that is. It's like when you're out walking on a rainy day and you just want to go home, then a truck drives by and splashes muddy water all over you. Gee, thanks.
I will say, if you put a mere 39 AP of sub-saver on your vJet, your line marker becomes a fast 3-shot that can snipe scoped eliters safely. For closer options, you have the squelcher itself. For closer options, you have the vacuum. For closer options (melee), you are screwed. But it's still fun to play something that functions well at shorter mid, longer mid, and 1/2 map range. (I just wish line marker also painted feet and did 5 damage every time you passed through it, to be an actual trip wire. People would have to think about jumping it or swimming under.)
I don't get how splatoon 1 stages get reworks yet splatoon 2 stages get straight ports this late into the game's lifetime. It's been almost 6 months. You can start working on changing old stages if you want. Welp, at least the reef will probably be unchanged.
I’d rather take an objectively bad kit with some silly niche over literally the same weapon but slightly worse?? Im praying this isn’t going to be a trend from now on💀💀
It still boggles my mind that ttek just has the sloshers kit but 190p but then did it AGAIN like who is designing these kits?? Are these ai generated? Fr at this point I want custom kits cause they cannot be trusted rn
Im absolutely pissed at Nintendo, absolute L move by Nintendo, they seriously want splash to thrive, its gonna be the new k52, quad splash will happen if splash doesnt get nerfed to the ground or crab and strike dont get reworked. Edit: its like they have a bias for splash its self like wtf are they on
- L-3 (hard outclassed by Splash) gets an overlapped kit that never saw use on Mini because of stamp - Splash (the best weapon in the game) gets a 90% overlap kit with arguably the second best weapon TTek These kits have to have been designed forever ago and grab bagged as to which order they're coming in because there’s no way…
@@sonicrunn3r895 What is it with people calling Splash the "best weapon in the game"? The weapon sees this amount of play because of Crab Tank. It's an okay short-range shooter that regularly doesn't even use the main weapon to fight because of the lack of range. It's played as a support just as often as anything else. The new kit is like a sidegrade of TTek that's probably not even as good because it has Suction Bomb--without the Burst Bomb to damage combo at mid range, it's nowhere near as useful in a fight as the base kit. This isn't going to lead to quad shooter meta any more than TTek did.
@@celestialspark5697 - Lightweight mobility - Insane painting - No RNG so no penalty to jumping, can also angle to hit over ledges better than any non-slosher non-splatana slayer weapon in the game - Insanely fast and consistent 4 shot kill due to the lack of RNG - Burst bomb is a perfect match, extending effective range and mobility, and not worrying about ink efficiency (the main weapon hardly uses ink) - Burst bomb kit is paired with the objective best special in the game, allowing not only use of it, but effectively punishing anyone breaking the tank with an instant burst bomb - There is no downside to double crab splash, splash pairs with itself and with crab that well There, hope I explained it for you.
Don't know if im going crazy but i think manta has a new flank, at minute 3:36 at the left side of the stage where you would normally fall off to your doom now has an extended plat the goes UNDER a "bridge". Doesn't show where it leads to but looks crazy cause you avoid mid completely Edit 2:holy shit holy shit, Jp post that came with manta maria reveal states the the place under the bridge is INKABLE. Let's just see if you can go to somewhere else from there
I thought so too when I saw it. Rewatched several times. But there's no exit on the other side, so I think it's just death. They may have made the death deck higher, though, for no real reason. It should be colored differently for clarity.
My question is why release this now?? No one would be this mad if this was announced like 2 seasons later. They could've released literally any other weapon. It feels like they already have everything planned out years ahead and don't pay attention to the meta or what the community thinks
It probably wont shift the meta much honestly, ttek exists and does basically the same thing. Neo splash doesnt bring anything new to the table other than a ttek sidegrade
i love how nintendo gives the literal best fucking kits to the weapon with completely perfect accuracy and a high fire rate while weapons that struggle severely in every regard get shit on because they’re too scared for a non shooter to be even slightly viable. calling a sloshing machine/stamper nerf in the next patch
Given no Zip shooters being in the game and now this kit happening, I guess Nintendo believes Shooter Zip is too strong or otherwise antithetical to their intended plan for the game. I don't see it, but it makes me wonder exactly what that meta would look like Even if they couldn't give this thing Zip, they could have at least done Ink Jet. We don't have enough of that special either and it would be a good fit while giving Neo its own identity
One of the things that makes Zip such a great special is how it feels completely different depending on the style of the main weapon. Slosher nouveau, octobrush, stamper, and luna all feel unique. Carbon is a bit too much like octobrush already, so giving them both zip was a mistake I would _love_ Chara's suggestion of eliter+zip (or a tri-stringer+zip for that matter). Splash+zip would feel similar but require a shorter range, but fill the gap between stamper and octobrush/luna. (Sploosh+zip means spray melee, and that's way too similar to octobrush/carbon.) Zip would be wild on a brella. Zip would be wild on a dynamo.
Honestly, Zekkofin might be pretty useful on Manta Maria. The ability to manufacture temporary cover using Splash Wall might make the left more viable for it
my main of 4 years officially has no reason to exist for this entire game's lifespan. Odds are even if we do get third kits again, which I am pessimistic about, Jet Squelcher's gonna be skipped once more. There's extremely limited reason to use the Jet Squelcher over chargers and splatlings in S3, and now with this second kit I can even say the tri-stringer is doing its job better. It's insane to me that weapons like the Splash-o-matic and Sloshing Machine are allowed to get kits I'd expect a onetrick on twitter to make, but then we get stuff like the Jet Squelcher and Undercover Brella which earnestly feel like parody kits.
this kit isn't terrible, but it's so disappointing. Sure this kit is going to be leagues better than whatever the fuck it's vanilla kit is, but it's also so fucking dull. Like whoop-die fucking do, Jet got a second kit that encourages it to be incredibly passively and support it's team, but hey this time it's actually usable! Jet already had an interesting aggressive kit with burst bomb kraken. They could have brought that back and nobody would have complained in the slightest. But instead they give it a kit that is mediocre, outclassed by other backliners, and doesn't offer anything new to the weapon. Maybe this is just repentance for jet abusing stingray and tenta missiles to hell at the end of splatoon 2.
@@angrypepe7615 that's the weirdest part about it to me. Nintendo is aware of some weapons' propensity to spam specials and their response has largely been to give it them a less spammable special (see S3 vShot's kit compared to kShot) or to double down and encourage special spam (see the vFlingza and Gold Aerospray). But for the Jet Squelcher specifically? Naw fam, let's get rid of what made the weapon interesting and unique and instead give it the most bog-standard "this is what a backline does" kits imaginable.
My favorite kit of all time (any weapon) was tri-slosher nouveau from S1: seekers and echolocator. I was expecting this one to be a balanced return to that, with curling bomb+wave breaker. But since it's getting autobomb (the _other_ descendent of seeker), it doesn't get the mobility boost, which makes me sad. I guess if you're flanking anyway, now you can put autobombs behind the enemy without them seeing it, so it's more likely to actually kill? (I say that as if flank routes exist in this game.)
@@ARMed_PIrate why are you so certain it's going to be autobomb? cause of the ink tank being at roughly 55%? The Tri-Slosher was apparently wearing Sub-Saver gear in that one Kraken video, so if they didn't disable the abilities, it could also be a 70% special.
@@strohkoenig 1. curling becoming 55% happens at slightly over a pure of sub saver so no shot that's it 2. it's not burst bomb :( fizzy cooler? they kinda cookin?
I wonder what world do the devs live in when they create weapons and monitor the meta. Hell even in Salmon Run there's still some things they need to fix
I know they never will, but like... at this point nintendo should experiment with changing some kits like dapple nouveau, L-3 D and neo splash. Normally I hate the idea of changing kits since there's probably someone out there who gets really attached to a certain combo, but when weapons are so samey/outclassed like this I think it would make more people happy than not & help with the distribution of specials added later into the game
My gut is telling me, Sploosh Neo is gonna be Zip and Splatbomb, both repeating VLuna's kit and cementing Zip caster as a short range special. Edit: I was wrong, it got beacons and killer wail
The way that would completely ruin my day as a former Sploosh main. All I want is Splat Bomb + a ranged special like Super Chump, you know the thing they JUST ADDED 😩
zipcaster (or kraken) and torpedo splash was what I was hoping for, sounds super fun. I am very disappointed and am just gonna stick to normal splash for now.
Personally for sploosh I’m hoping for fizzy and cooler, it would have a similar niche to nzap but I think the main is different enough that it would be distinct
If they were to dedicate an entire day's announcements to literally just going over the highlights of this season's balance patches on Twitter, and explaining why each change was chosen, that would do *so* much for the community.
Tfw when the devs take two potentially amazing zipcaster weapons in a category where no other weapon has the special (dapples and splash), and instead give us a kit that's basically identical to one we already have, twice in a row
I really wanna believe they meant to post the Sploosh with that kit instead (which would be awesome) and forgot about the Kit they already showed for it (zip castsr) and hope they back pedal hard because I am sick of seeing Splash, and I play Ttek.
Chill season was an overall W. Nerfing missiles alone was enough. Fresh season ain’t lookin so fresh so far though. They have to nerf splash and buff the bad specials.
This Splash kit is so mind-numbingly dumb, I’m still half convinced it’s a typo of some sort. They already showed us an amazing Splash kit that makes so much set, why would hey take that away? I guess there might be a third kit, but I was hoping to not wait that long, and I also would rather not have Toxic Mist on what would otherwise be a perfect kit.
Man… I feel so bad for the competitive players. I was feeling sorry for myself because I’m an ink brush main and Kraken is coming back, but this is the biggest L dropped on us in a while.
I get that this is meant to be a callbsck to splat1 splash but i’m kinda sad that we didnt get the zipcaster splash, even sadder is that they butchered the kits of weapons that needed solid kits like l3, h3 and (especially) dynamo
I think you’re forgetting that there’s a casual audience. Even if they’re similar, some people don’t like the slower fire rate of the splattershot so they choose the splash. Not every weapon has to be competitively viable and not every weapon needs to be good. It needs to be fun with a lot of options for casual players while still having variety for the competitive community
Casuals? Then how is everyone on Online matches good? I don't really think this game is meant to be casual, even tho Nintendo's ads show it as casual, that might've just been Nintendo of America's idea, not Nintendo Japan's
@@eggur0ll289 Well i remember my first match on Splatoon 3 had good players on the other team, even tho I played the previous games, so it might not be super accurate sbmm. And what do kids have to do with that? Kids can still be good at games, i've heard how some Kids were able to beat hard NES games, so just because someone's a kid doesn't mean they're bad at the game, hell i was good at MK8 online on Wii U back then when i was like 9, so a kid can be good in some games.
@@LennyQUMFIF First of all, Splatoon 3 carried over your mmr from 2. You were placed with the same skill opponents. Second, I have a friend who has never played splatoon in her life. I go into her lobbies and they are the most braindead people in the game. People play this game casually and are not good at it. To suggest that a game isn’t intended to be casual when video games as a media are entertainment for the majority of the entire world is borderline bait. Children, new players, people who only play turf war, and people who simply don’t care about skill. They exist. And they are for sure the highest population as opposed to the comp community
@@LennyQUMFIF and when I say children play this, I mean children who haven’t played video games before, children who play once every month, children trying the game on their relatives system, etc. You know what I mean, come on now
I don't feel great about jet in 3, and I've loved this weapon since the first game. I honestly feel like if they tweaked it back to it's old range that might help it out with the more flexible niche it used to inhabit. I didn't play during missile meta in 2, but I've never felt like it was ever an overpowered weapon during the times I did play. Though I haven't touched the game since before they updated the angle shooter, and jets shot rng so maybe I'll give it another go, cause I do like the angle shooter even if was pretty underwelming. I do really enjoy playing a supporty role, but it feels really hard to do in solo play, maybe I just need to improve my game sense more...
I think the theme behind this update is "bring back Splatoon 1 kits", even if that makes no sense with the current game. This is the closest they could come to Splash's S1 kit, so it's what they did. I really wish they had just brought back Bomb Rush for it or given it Super Chump, though.
Tentatek Splattershot is literally a copy of the Wasabi Splattershot in Splatoon 1. Both have the same sub, and as special on S1 it was inkstrike, on S3... triple inkstrike...
I hope they change some kits last minute + have a good balance patch. Like everyone is screaming at them so maybe there is hope ? (I don't think it will happen though)
I'm actually really happy about the new jet kit, personally. Ink storm being my favourite special and jet being my go to backline weapon, It'll be nice to be able to play it supportive without ruining the entire game like S2.
I remember back in November that I had said to my friends that I hoped the next Jet kit has Mist again as it would at least be better than the dart, but then a little later I learned that squid roll pretty much completely invalidates mist and changed my mind but seems Nintendo didn't realize this lol.
wait during the like few first seconds of Manta Maria's trailer, there seems to be an underway on the left side where it used to be nothing? I'm not seeing things am I?
idk why we have to get sooooo many kits for shooters and chargers, but nothing for brellas, brushes, THE NEW WEAPON CLASSES THEY ADDED, or even like. splatlings. trying not to get bored with this game but between the mid maps and mid updates idk how much longer i can hold on
well dang. been trying to avoid splash altogether cuz i felt bad (not to mention i'm for some reason bad at it because of no shot rng), but now it's like they're telling us there are only two weapons in the game, splash or splash
I'm just waiting for light tetras. And praying for them. Seriously please give them a decent special and a bomb, probably even point sensor would be better than sprinkler. Imagine having like bb + cooler. OP. Litterally have like zip, wail, bubble, trizooka etc. I know zip isnt great but dualies with zip would be cool.
All they gotta do is only sell the handful of basic weapons, and let the player pick their own specials. The weapon store inventory is getting out of hand
Think about this: there will be THREE PAGES of shooters. You could fit all of the brellas, brushes, splatanas and stringers on a SINGLE page with room to spare. Something is going very wrong here.
Oh hell naw
As a shooter main in Splatoon 3, I have to agree. It seems they don't want a lot of variety in their weapons.
@@goldenninja9053 you act like they are not going to get to the other once they done with the shooters in fact they only have few shooters left before they start doing re skins of the other weapons they even added a none shooter in this weapon with the roller
@@ultmewtwo The fact that we have to wait for them to finish with shooters before entire classes can get their time in the sun in a problem unto itself. There’s no reason Splatana and Stringer shouldn’t already have new main weapons by this point
Yeah it's kinda just boring how pretty much (not including new kits), a good chunk of weapons classes only have 2 or 3 main weapons
Comp is dead let's all go back to tableturf
True true, i agree with your statement
Ong bro
Tableturf online announcement tomorrow, Friday or Monday hopefully
We might have to, IF ONLINE TABLETURF IS EVER A THING.
I’m down
Now people are gonna be running Splash-o-Matic to counter Splash-o-Matic.
Then they're gonna need to buff Splash O Matic so it can compete with Splash O Matic
Use the splash to destroy the splash
@@Flare0661Welcome to Splatoon 3. If you're not playing Splash-o-Matic, Neo Splash-o-Matic, Tentatek Splatershot or Sloshing Machine, you aren't gonna win
I almost want to pick up E-liter to try countering that stupid firefin charger but I don't think it will work
@@SALTYTOAD00 With special guest Flingza roller
I swear to god if quad splash becomes a thing i will splash my body onto the nearby sidewalk
good luck going to the hospital, because there's no escaping this one
I can’t wait for the meta to be 8 splashes
Lava pit*
It’s probably going to be 7 shooters for me cuz I’m more of a dualies main
it already is. Better get splashing
Bro I just want more Zips and Inkjets in the game, they're skillcap flank specials that may not be great ATM but they're incredibly healthy for comp diversity.
Why wld u want more zips? Its shit
This. We only have 3 jet weapons, while in 2 I remember seeing one in almost every match because so many weapons had it. Sometimes it feels like it isn't even in this game
@@abra_escapedIn reality there’s 1 right now. Bucket is the only one that makes good enough use if it, especially on Flounder
@@BlazeSLK I mean rapid will likely see quite a bit of play, if only from krapid veterans who desperately want it back
@@apersonwhomayormaynotexist9868 yeah of course. I’m saying that right now in the game the vanilla tri slosher is the only thing using inkjet since ballpoint just doesn’t get picked
The worst part of this is that it’s getting worse and worse to do call outs
“Splash is weak”
“Mhm which of the four”
Yeah there is def gonna be a team of 4 splashes at some point because there were teams of 3 splash and ttek so yeah this is literally gonna happen
@@jpshy1130 I genuinely believe that neo splash will be played over ttek for this exact reason
Why not just say people's usernames
@@ActualAlien_ in the heat pf the game you don’t have time to read the username and neither do your teammates and also it doesn’t explain what is the threat: “charger left” is a lot different then “tetra left”
I feel like Nintendo is intentionally trying to not pick the community's preferred kits because then it looks like the pay attention to the community. Which they don't like because they're Nintendo.
The problem is everyone is happy to type and scream in the comments but no one will stop playing the game. You guys want Nintendo to listen? Put your wallet where your mouth is.
@@johndelanie3649 problem with that is, we've already bought the game. They have their money, why would they care now? It's not like there's in game purchases like a battle pass or microstransactions
@@johndelanie3649 ‘ppl should not play a game they enjoy bc they criticize the weapon kits’ ???????????? Hello???????Do you hear yourself?????
@@johndelanie3649 Oh, I'm stopping alright.
@John Delanie I was going to do that before the game released but is to late now they got my money
I think something needs to be said about making Splatoon 3 kits based on past kits. Namely, the splash getting tri-strike instead of Zipcaster because it’s traditionally had a bomb rush kit. We’re getting kits that do the same thing because the devs are too afraid to try something new. It’s hurting stuff that didn’t have equivalents in older games like Zipcaster.
Exactly it makes the game so boring. I can almost guarantee the next tri kit is gonna be either splat bomb storm, burst cooler or burst bubbler
I had this same thought last night, even the non-shooter kits are references to Splat1 kits
On top of the first dlc just being Inkopolis? Makes me think that Nintendo is leaning on splat1 nostalgia
But tri-strike isn't even a bomb rush equivalent? Why didn't they put super chump on it in that case?
@@ARMed_PIrate It’s not identical but it’s what the devs have made the bomb rush of splatoon 3. You displace people at multiple locations with throwable objects, they’re pretty similar. Just look at what weapons have tri strike, a good chunk of them have had bomb rush at some point.
Kinda surprised it didn't get super chump which also seems kind of like a bomb rush equivalent.
Splash priviledge is real in this game, this goes beyond just shooter priviledge. This weapon has now gotten 2 kits one of which is meta defining and the other one looks to be slightly outclassed but still near perfect. Can't believe Splash got two great kits while most weapons can barely manage one right now (Ballpoint still makes me very sad).
Also Jet was robbed. The new kit plays the same as the old kit as a support/backline only the new one outclasses the old one completely. Really makes me wonder wtf the devs are thinking with this season.
Dapple makes me sad
5 years not one good kit
Talk to me about weapons getting robbed when ppl acknowledge theres ONE octobrush
Yes but octobrush is perfection.
@@jaxonanderson7220 as an octobrush main, i cld really do with a stronger special TwT zipcast was a nerf on it
Yeah I play octobrush a lot too and I wish we did have a better special on it then it will be true perfection
The special design has gotten so much smarter and in general nintendo seemed to massively improve between Spl2 and Spl3 game design wise, and now they do this…
Special design: Improved
Movement design: Improved
Kit design: ???????????
@@sonicrunn3r895map design: 💀
balance design: ⚰️
Wow Ink Armor is looking more appealing now (please don’t take this seriously)
@@fortunemuderhwa9318 Single player design: Keeps getting better
how could they release 2 new weapon classes as cool as splatanas & stringers and then completely ignore them kit-wise 😭
The worst thing about the shooter privilege right now is that they're not even going for wholy unique kits right here. The shooters are near identical in how they work compared to other classes and putting a nigh identical kit on two seperate shooters is abysmally sad. And the most unique shooter in the bunch (GUYS THE WEAPON I'M TALKING ABOUT IS L-3, NOT JET SQUELCHER) gets an overlapping kit with mini in the literal worst kit combo they could've overlapped. As a reminder, 2 of the 17 specials in the game are yet to get new kits since day 1 and we have 6 STAMP WEAPONS NOW.
God here's hoping we're basically done with the privilege kits for a long time so we can get to the actually interesting ones faster. It wouldn’t surprise me if we burned through the last 3 non-Nova shooters next patch to get them over with for roughly 3 more seasons…
Nah they’ll just start adding 3rd kits for shooters next 😃
Lmao it's not gonna happen, Nintendo could care less because splatoon will make them just as much money. What are pro players gonna do? Not go to tournaments? Channels like this rely on Splatoon because that's the basket they've put all their eggs in to. It won't change because there's 0 negative repercussions for Nintendo if they keep going the way they are.
SHOOTER SUPREMACY SHOOTER SUPREMACY SHOOTER SUPREMACY WE ARE THE MAIN CHARACTERS
Kit overlap really does suck a lot. L-3 D makes me cry. I already got scared away from Mini for it’s bad burst bomb kit and now my other more-interesting shooter with the same range that I used even more gets the same fate. I just wanna have fun with these less traditional weapons….
Missiles dont count
The fact that we got the term Neo Splash on Trending while WWIII and North Korea were trending at the same time shows how bad Nintendo screwed up
What an eternity to be a brella main.
Underrated comment
With Neo Splash having Triple Inkstrike it makes it feel like there's less of a reason to pick Brella, though that happened when shooters starting having it
What’s a Brella?
I feel this too.
yep
Let's just start calling the game Splashtoon
As a Jet Squelcher fan what hurts the most isn't the new kit (I'll take it over vanilla) but getting a dull kit while Splash gets... whatever the hell that is. It's like when you're out walking on a rainy day and you just want to go home, then a truck drives by and splashes muddy water all over you. Gee, thanks.
bro your kind terrorized at the long end of splatoon 2 youll be fine
@@tubbyidk1474 i swear its not like jet was one of the most toxic weapon in splatoon 2 with missiles, at least yall have a good kit its alright.
I will say, if you put a mere 39 AP of sub-saver on your vJet, your line marker becomes a fast 3-shot that can snipe scoped eliters safely. For closer options, you have the squelcher itself. For closer options, you have the vacuum. For closer options (melee), you are screwed. But it's still fun to play something that functions well at shorter mid, longer mid, and 1/2 map range.
(I just wish line marker also painted feet and did 5 damage every time you passed through it, to be an actual trip wire. People would have to think about jumping it or swimming under.)
@@ARMed_PIrate ah yes
a mere 3 mains 3 subs
Salmon run been looking real good recently… might switch to playing it for an entire season😵💫
Right lol hopefully we can use the kraken special in salmon run
Yeah I’m sticking to salmon run too finally got back to profreshional +1 after a long string of losses kicking me back to overachiever
@@obxuritythat would be HYPE
@@jaxonanderson7220 Got back to Professional +1! I wanna Demote Myself from Pro+1!
Wait, you guys didn't do that already?
Salmon Run is insanely fun and pain too
“This is getting out of hand, now there are two meta splashomatics”
The saddest part about some of these kits is that they will probably not get a 2nd kit, effectively being, like you said “dead in the water”.
Do you mean 3rd kit?
@@Koroguruhonestly at this rate,we might not even get second kits
@@BEEEES honestly, if some weapons don't get 2nd kits i will riot, i don't even play splat 3 anymore, but it still sucks
I actually cannot believe that I’m about to say this, but I’m going to miss the only triple Splash comps of Chill season
Same 😭
I don't get how splatoon 1 stages get reworks yet splatoon 2 stages get straight ports this late into the game's lifetime. It's been almost 6 months. You can start working on changing old stages if you want.
Welp, at least the reef will probably be unchanged.
considering how badly they ruined mahi and hammerhead i’m glad they’re not reworking the splat2 stages lol
@@laurenmoore1532 fr
with how bad some kits are and how busted others can and will be, it feels like they're kind of just using a random generator for all the weapons
I’d rather take an objectively bad kit with some silly niche over literally the same weapon but slightly worse?? Im praying this isn’t going to be a trend from now on💀💀
Slightly worse more like slivhtly better
@@HopelessJester splat bomb>suction
This is why I main weapons like Bamboozler and don't touch Shooters.
Just accept that this is how it is going forward. It will save you a lot of grief.
@@_elynas yeah but splash has no RNG and faster fire rate
Not only did we get TTek 2, but we also lost Zipcaster Splash that was shown in the trailer. Never forget what they took from us.
It still boggles my mind that ttek just has the sloshers kit but 190p but then did it AGAIN like who is designing these kits?? Are these ai generated?
Fr at this point I want custom kits cause they cannot be trusted rn
Im absolutely pissed at Nintendo, absolute L move by Nintendo, they seriously want splash to thrive, its gonna be the new k52, quad splash will happen if splash doesnt get nerfed to the ground or crab and strike dont get reworked.
Edit: its like they have a bias for splash its self like wtf are they on
- L-3 (hard outclassed by Splash) gets an overlapped kit that never saw use on Mini because of stamp
- Splash (the best weapon in the game) gets a 90% overlap kit with arguably the second best weapon TTek
These kits have to have been designed forever ago and grab bagged as to which order they're coming in because there’s no way…
@@sonicrunn3r895 What is it with people calling Splash the "best weapon in the game"? The weapon sees this amount of play because of Crab Tank. It's an okay short-range shooter that regularly doesn't even use the main weapon to fight because of the lack of range. It's played as a support just as often as anything else. The new kit is like a sidegrade of TTek that's probably not even as good because it has Suction Bomb--without the Burst Bomb to damage combo at mid range, it's nowhere near as useful in a fight as the base kit. This isn't going to lead to quad shooter meta any more than TTek did.
What im curious is what wtf u habe against the splash lmfao, theres fucking 2 splashes what are u on
@@celestialspark5697 lack of range means nothing when u look at the aim.
@@celestialspark5697 - Lightweight mobility
- Insane painting
- No RNG so no penalty to jumping, can also angle to hit over ledges better than any non-slosher non-splatana slayer weapon in the game
- Insanely fast and consistent 4 shot kill due to the lack of RNG
- Burst bomb is a perfect match, extending effective range and mobility, and not worrying about ink efficiency (the main weapon hardly uses ink)
- Burst bomb kit is paired with the objective best special in the game, allowing not only use of it, but effectively punishing anyone breaking the tank with an instant burst bomb
- There is no downside to double crab splash, splash pairs with itself and with crab that well
There, hope I explained it for you.
So they absolutely hoed L3 but then gave this thing the recently buffed tri strike? Forget Shooter Bias, can we talk about the *SPLASH BIAS?!*
splash 3's kit is gonna be like splash wall booyah bomb
Toxic mist with ink storm will be kinda nice, as it'll be good to trap people with the two. Still a head scratcher, but still something worth trying
This was dapple nouveau's kit in Spla2n and didn't really work that well ☹️
But here's hoping the Jet is a better main weapon for it
@@GoldenKernel that was mainly because dapples has shit range and that kit doesn’t help it poke
rapid pro had that kit and it was ok
Don't know if im going crazy but i think manta has a new flank, at minute 3:36 at the left side of the stage where you would normally fall off to your doom now has an extended plat the goes UNDER a "bridge". Doesn't show where it leads to but looks crazy cause you avoid mid completely
Edit 2:holy shit holy shit, Jp post that came with manta maria reveal states the the place under the bridge is INKABLE. Let's just see if you can go to somewhere else from there
I thought I was the only one that saw that too. But I didn’t know it was in S2 so oh well
@@JasontheMason5 Yeah, back then when you fell there you would die like if you fell in water, maybe it's normal ground now but who knows
I thought so too when I saw it. Rewatched several times. But there's no exit on the other side, so I think it's just death. They may have made the death deck higher, though, for no real reason. It should be colored differently for clarity.
@@ARMed_PIrate Yeah, I was also boggled by that because I couldn't really see where it lead to it in no other shot of the stage
My question is why release this now?? No one would be this mad if this was announced like 2 seasons later. They could've released literally any other weapon.
It feels like they already have everything planned out years ahead and don't pay attention to the meta or what the community thinks
It really sucks because this weapon is gonna definitely shift meta.. I already see the double splash comps I really miss healthy metas for the game
yeah. double splash is better then double armor but thats saying a bar 1ft off the ground is higher then a bar that is 6ft under
@@R8Spike exactly put. this is disappointing hopefully it only gets better from here
It probably wont shift the meta much honestly, ttek exists and does basically the same thing. Neo splash doesnt bring anything new to the table other than a ttek sidegrade
i love how nintendo gives the literal best fucking kits to the weapon with completely perfect accuracy and a high fire rate while weapons that struggle severely in every regard get shit on because they’re too scared for a non shooter to be even slightly viable. calling a sloshing machine/stamper nerf in the next patch
Given no Zip shooters being in the game and now this kit happening, I guess Nintendo believes Shooter Zip is too strong or otherwise antithetical to their intended plan for the game. I don't see it, but it makes me wonder exactly what that meta would look like
Even if they couldn't give this thing Zip, they could have at least done Ink Jet. We don't have enough of that special either and it would be a good fit while giving Neo its own identity
One of the things that makes Zip such a great special is how it feels completely different depending on the style of the main weapon. Slosher nouveau, octobrush, stamper, and luna all feel unique. Carbon is a bit too much like octobrush already, so giving them both zip was a mistake I would _love_ Chara's suggestion of eliter+zip (or a tri-stringer+zip for that matter). Splash+zip would feel similar but require a shorter range, but fill the gap between stamper and octobrush/luna. (Sploosh+zip means spray melee, and that's way too similar to octobrush/carbon.)
Zip would be wild on a brella. Zip would be wild on a dynamo.
@@ARMed_PIrate Squiffer + Zip pls
Honestly, Zekkofin might be pretty useful on Manta Maria. The ability to manufacture temporary cover using Splash Wall might make the left more viable for it
my main of 4 years officially has no reason to exist for this entire game's lifespan. Odds are even if we do get third kits again, which I am pessimistic about, Jet Squelcher's gonna be skipped once more. There's extremely limited reason to use the Jet Squelcher over chargers and splatlings in S3, and now with this second kit I can even say the tri-stringer is doing its job better. It's insane to me that weapons like the Splash-o-matic and Sloshing Machine are allowed to get kits I'd expect a onetrick on twitter to make, but then we get stuff like the Jet Squelcher and Undercover Brella which earnestly feel like parody kits.
this kit isn't terrible, but it's so disappointing. Sure this kit is going to be leagues better than whatever the fuck it's vanilla kit is, but it's also so fucking dull. Like whoop-die fucking do, Jet got a second kit that encourages it to be incredibly passively and support it's team, but hey this time it's actually usable! Jet already had an interesting aggressive kit with burst bomb kraken. They could have brought that back and nobody would have complained in the slightest. But instead they give it a kit that is mediocre, outclassed by other backliners, and doesn't offer anything new to the weapon.
Maybe this is just repentance for jet abusing stingray and tenta missiles to hell at the end of splatoon 2.
@@angrypepe7615 that's the weirdest part about it to me. Nintendo is aware of some weapons' propensity to spam specials and their response has largely been to give it them a less spammable special (see S3 vShot's kit compared to kShot) or to double down and encourage special spam (see the vFlingza and Gold Aerospray). But for the Jet Squelcher specifically? Naw fam, let's get rid of what made the weapon interesting and unique and instead give it the most bog-standard "this is what a backline does" kits imaginable.
4:26 me watching as Chara can't find Jet Squelcher
Its now part of the endgame meta 😭
It's almost like the Thanos meme now :D
"I used the Splash to destroy the Splash..."
I guess after the terrible tri-slosher kit tomorrow I'm going to hope for custom Kits in Splatoon 4.
At this rate splatoon 4 might not even come.
@@DunjonMaster I don't see why it wouldn't. It was the fastest selling game in Japan for a while outside of Scarlet/Violet
My favorite kit of all time (any weapon) was tri-slosher nouveau from S1: seekers and echolocator. I was expecting this one to be a balanced return to that, with curling bomb+wave breaker.
But since it's getting autobomb (the _other_ descendent of seeker), it doesn't get the mobility boost, which makes me sad. I guess if you're flanking anyway, now you can put autobombs behind the enemy without them seeing it, so it's more likely to actually kill? (I say that as if flank routes exist in this game.)
@@ARMed_PIrate why are you so certain it's going to be autobomb?
cause of the ink tank being at roughly 55%?
The Tri-Slosher was apparently wearing Sub-Saver gear in that one Kraken video, so if they didn't disable the abilities, it could also be a 70% special.
@@strohkoenig 1. curling becoming 55% happens at slightly over a pure of sub saver so no shot that's it
2. it's not burst bomb :(
fizzy cooler? they kinda cookin?
If they put zip on sploosh im gonna die laughing
theres gonna be quad splash, i can feel it in my bones
Shouts at an 8 splash competitive match:
My patience is waning
Is this entertaining
I'm a splash main and I'm pissed
Im a splash main and even after watching this video i still dont agree
Its a good weapon choice prove me wrong (you cant)
@@HopelessJester bros angry
I don’t use shooters (except Aerospray) and I’m pissed
I wonder what world do the devs live in when they create weapons and monitor the meta. Hell even in Salmon Run there's still some things they need to fix
This next season all depends on the patch notes istg, if Crab/Splash isnt nerfed we gonna have quad splash comps
I know they never will, but like... at this point nintendo should experiment with changing some kits like dapple nouveau, L-3 D and neo splash. Normally I hate the idea of changing kits since there's probably someone out there who gets really attached to a certain combo, but when weapons are so samey/outclassed like this I think it would make more people happy than not & help with the distribution of specials added later into the game
How to counter meta splash + crab? Let's make another splash w/ triple instrike. Baffling decision Nintendo...
I wanna cry
Same😬
The fact that we’re not even 6 months into the game and we’re already in a make-or-break patch is kinda depressing.
My gut is telling me, Sploosh Neo is gonna be Zip and Splatbomb, both repeating VLuna's kit and cementing Zip caster as a short range special.
Edit: I was wrong, it got beacons and killer wail
The way that would completely ruin my day as a former Sploosh main. All I want is Splat Bomb + a ranged special like Super Chump, you know the thing they JUST ADDED 😩
Point Sensor+Reefslider take it or leave it.
@@snowywae128 😭
@@snowywae128 TAKE IT BACK
Who wanted torpedo zipcaster for the neo splash :(
I didn't want it until you said it but that sounds sick.
Can't wait for the splash buff tomorrow...
zipcaster (or kraken) and torpedo splash was what I was hoping for, sounds super fun. I am very disappointed and am just gonna stick to normal splash for now.
It’s been two seasons and the same problem has occurred which was duplicated kits
Suction bomb Zip was right there
Why did they give it Tri strike
This is giving Splatoon 2s grizzco "we think the game should played this way because we make the game" except now it's with maps and kits
Personally for sploosh I’m hoping for fizzy and cooler, it would have a similar niche to nzap but I think the main is different enough that it would be distinct
If they were to dedicate an entire day's announcements to literally just going over the highlights of this season's balance patches on Twitter, and explaining why each change was chosen, that would do *so* much for the community.
Everybody who had their guess to Splash Neo's kit having Inkstrike take a shot
Tfw when the devs take two potentially amazing zipcaster weapons in a category where no other weapon has the special (dapples and splash), and instead give us a kit that's basically identical to one we already have, twice in a row
it's beginning to be within reason to ask "can they still change the special even after announcing it?"
I really wanna believe they meant to post the Sploosh with that kit instead (which would be awesome) and forgot about the Kit they already showed for it (zip castsr) and hope they back pedal hard because I am sick of seeing Splash, and I play Ttek.
Chill season was an overall W. Nerfing missiles alone was enough. Fresh season ain’t lookin so fresh so far though. They have to nerf splash and buff the bad specials.
I’d rather quad missiles than quad splash ngl
@@Ax19e4 you’re insane 😭
This Splash kit is so mind-numbingly dumb, I’m still half convinced it’s a typo of some sort. They already showed us an amazing Splash kit that makes so much set, why would hey take that away? I guess there might be a third kit, but I was hoping to not wait that long, and I also would rather not have Toxic Mist on what would otherwise be a perfect kit.
Man… I feel so bad for the competitive players. I was feeling sorry for myself because I’m an ink brush main and Kraken is coming back, but this is the biggest L dropped on us in a while.
Inkbrush with kraken would be SO GOOD. ugh. We're not getting another brush, are we..
@@memesandgasoline we are, but it's going to take a loong time, since the devs decided that 6/11 of the new kits being shooters was a good idea
@@karlapinkie7697 and if we do it's going to end up being a subpar kit, too.
I wasn't thinking about kits, I was thinking about how easily brushes can be killed with kraken 💀
But think about it Chara. Now you can run a full team of Splash. 2 Vanilla and 2 Neo
I get that this is meant to be a callbsck to splat1 splash but i’m kinda sad that we didnt get the zipcaster splash, even sadder is that they butchered the kits of weapons that needed solid kits like l3, h3 and (especially) dynamo
I think you’re forgetting that there’s a casual audience. Even if they’re similar, some people don’t like the slower fire rate of the splattershot so they choose the splash. Not every weapon has to be competitively viable and not every weapon needs to be good. It needs to be fun with a lot of options for casual players while still having variety for the competitive community
Casuals? Then how is everyone on Online matches good? I don't really think this game is meant to be casual, even tho Nintendo's ads show it as casual, that might've just been Nintendo of America's idea, not Nintendo Japan's
@@LennyQUMFIF you’re joking right? The game has sbmm. And kids play splatoon, what are you on about
@@eggur0ll289 Well i remember my first match on Splatoon 3 had good players on the other team, even tho I played the previous games, so it might not be super accurate sbmm.
And what do kids have to do with that? Kids can still be good at games, i've heard how some Kids were able to beat hard NES games, so just because someone's a kid doesn't mean they're bad at the game, hell i was good at MK8 online on Wii U back then when i was like 9, so a kid can be good in some games.
@@LennyQUMFIF First of all, Splatoon 3 carried over your mmr from 2. You were placed with the same skill opponents. Second, I have a friend who has never played splatoon in her life. I go into her lobbies and they are the most braindead people in the game. People play this game casually and are not good at it. To suggest that a game isn’t intended to be casual when video games as a media are entertainment for the majority of the entire world is borderline bait. Children, new players, people who only play turf war, and people who simply don’t care about skill. They exist. And they are for sure the highest population as opposed to the comp community
@@LennyQUMFIF and when I say children play this, I mean children who haven’t played video games before, children who play once every month, children trying the game on their relatives system, etc. You know what I mean, come on now
This wouldn't have happened if they just gave it Zipcaster, the worst part is that kits can't be changed unlike stages which can get modified
i literally think this might change because of how bad this situation is; they might change their minds and give it zip last second
I don't feel great about jet in 3, and I've loved this weapon since the first game. I honestly feel like if they tweaked it back to it's old range that might help it out with the more flexible niche it used to inhabit. I didn't play during missile meta in 2, but I've never felt like it was ever an overpowered weapon during the times I did play.
Though I haven't touched the game since before they updated the angle shooter, and jets shot rng so maybe I'll give it another go, cause I do like the angle shooter even if was pretty underwelming. I do really enjoy playing a supporty role, but it feels really hard to do in solo play, maybe I just need to improve my game sense more...
I was so sure Splash neo was gonna get super chump... what happened to that
I hope they add customizable kits for private battles at some point
If that happens, wait till you see S2 jet in a tournament
if trislosher gets anything other than burst bomb, i'm going to go slosh myself off a cliff
There gonna give splosh spaltbomb zipcaster.
I think the theme behind this update is "bring back Splatoon 1 kits", even if that makes no sense with the current game. This is the closest they could come to Splash's S1 kit, so it's what they did. I really wish they had just brought back Bomb Rush for it or given it Super Chump, though.
Tentatek Splattershot is literally a copy of the Wasabi Splattershot in Splatoon 1.
Both have the same sub, and as special on S1 it was inkstrike, on S3... triple inkstrike...
I audibly said “oh my god, no” when I saw the kit
They should have given the new splash zipcaster, like how it had it in one of the trailers.
I just want them to add a functionality brella with a better kit
Custom jet actually plays really well
we've gone beyond just simple shooter privilege at this point. Now there's splash privilege.
I hope they change some kits last minute + have a good balance patch. Like everyone is screaming at them so maybe there is hope ? (I don't think it will happen though)
yeahh, im really hoping they pull a netflix and are just like "oopsie wrong special guys!!", but knowing Nintendo that's really really unlikely
@@SULKRE "oopsie wrong special guys!!" gives it missiles
@@ijustwantedtocomment8319 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Likely not gonna happen though. Not unless the backlash is gonna be much bigger than it is right now
@@ijustwantedtocomment8319 oopsi burst bomb missile 150p …
When will we get new dualies?!!
3:43 if you look on the bottom left, you can see a new underneath route
I'm actually really happy about the new jet kit, personally. Ink storm being my favourite special and jet being my go to backline weapon, It'll be nice to be able to play it supportive without ruining the entire game like S2.
Nintendo please stop shattering all of our hopes of S3 being actually balanced
Watch neo splash get 180p for tri strike lol
They made Splash... Counter Splash...
I didn't even know that was possible.
@SaltyToad00, you learn something new everyday
they really added 6 shooter kits and 0 brella kits this update and made like half the shooter kits complete throwaways
As someone who fell in love with the idea of zipcaster splash, this hurts
Damn that’s crazy, real not fake prochara
this 2nd kit of splash means it can fight against the wall of the new splat charger sooo...
potential quad splash meta anyone?
Custom jet not burst bomb feels like a crime
I remember back in November that I had said to my friends that I hoped the next Jet kit has Mist again as it would at least be better than the dart, but then a little later I learned that squid roll pretty much completely invalidates mist and changed my mind but seems Nintendo didn't realize this lol.
wait during the like few first seconds of Manta Maria's trailer, there seems to be an underway on the left side where it used to be nothing? I'm not seeing things am I?
idk why we have to get sooooo many kits for shooters and chargers, but nothing for brellas, brushes, THE NEW WEAPON CLASSES THEY ADDED, or even like. splatlings. trying not to get bored with this game but between the mid maps and mid updates idk how much longer i can hold on
theres still time for them to change it if we bully them hard enough
Maybe the Japanese speakera in the community could, but the America account just translates stuff.
@@ActualAlien_ bully them in the replies of splatoon jp’s tweet
can we petition nintendo to change it to zipcaster or something
well dang. been trying to avoid splash altogether cuz i felt bad (not to mention i'm for some reason bad at it because of no shot rng), but now it's like they're telling us there are only two weapons in the game, splash or splash
all i wanted was for it to have zipcaster…. that’s all i could’ve dealt witb sensor or angle shitter like 😭😭😭😭🐔🐔🐔🐔
I'm just waiting for light tetras. And praying for them. Seriously please give them a decent special and a bomb, probably even point sensor would be better than sprinkler.
Imagine having like bb + cooler. OP.
Litterally have like zip, wail, bubble, trizooka etc.
I know zip isnt great but dualies with zip would be cool.
bb cooler tetras... Feeding ftw
Lel. Imagine if Kensa comes back for Splatoon 3 and Splash-o-matic gets a Kensa kit with Zip Caster 🖤
All they gotta do is only sell the handful of basic weapons, and let the player pick their own specials.
The weapon store inventory is getting out of hand
This video is so fucking funny to come back to
I'm just glad jet has a real kit now,
even if it *is* so dissapointing.
As of now, they just released the Sploosh and it has beacon and killer wail…