Impatient Speedbird Pilot ?? British Airways 777-200 / Medevac Learjet 45 @ St. Kitts / Caribbean

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • We have a interesting ATC dialogue here...there were parts of the transmission that kept cutting out i am really sorry about that !!!. Both BA and the Medevac learjet were about ready for departure....seems the Medevac had lots of mistakes on read back and it took a little longer than expected and the BA pilot got impatient @ 3:07
    For any one wondering why the 777 rotated so quickly is because its doing a 10 to 15 minute flight to the nearby island of Antigua so the plane is light on fuel with about 100 plus passengers, the flights are shared with the island of Antigua where they take on more people and continue back to London Gatwick
    St. Kitts Robert L. Bradshaw Int'l Airport SKB/TKPK
    British Airways 777-200 GE-90
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Комментарии • 1,7 тыс.

  • @wmcomprev
    @wmcomprev 7 лет назад +28

    As a controller, we would normally try to get the MedEvac out first. However, that clearance was taking so long that BAW could have been gone in the time it took to issue the clearance to the MedEvac. You get trapped into the idea that "this will only take a couple of seconds" and then when it doesn't go right, you don't adjust. Working RADAR, you have to adjust, since the aircraft are moving, but sitting on the ground, this isn't critical.

  • @notircm
    @notircm 8 лет назад +36

    Lol that "big guy" actually rotated earlier then the "small one" !! o_O

    • @boomer76
      @boomer76 6 лет назад +5

      notircm probably taking it easy on the patient for medical reasons.

  • @tessarix
    @tessarix 5 лет назад +5

    I flew passenger in a 10-seater Learjet from Cairns, Australia to West Irian Jaya back in the day. Best plane ride I've ever had. The natives came to welcome us with spears and shields and singing! Need I say that it was AWESOME! I'm American and my dad was an Air Force pilot and he used to ride as a courier (not pilot) once in awhile so he could take our family of four to exotic places around the world. What a life and what a ride in the Learjet! I've been all over the world and never, ever get tired of flying. To this day I have jet fuel in my veins and the itch every time I see a jet to get up there into the wild blue yonder with them!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  5 лет назад

      thanks for the information :) !!

  • @kerryclark1926
    @kerryclark1926 5 лет назад +128

    If I was pissing away fuel listening to such a long read back with errors, I'd be getting on the radio too. Or, asking if I could taxie to the runway, while you two figure things out.

  • @jan-zumwalt
    @jan-zumwalt 6 лет назад +8

    As a pilot I can tell you this is a non-issue. The Lear was told to wait a moment for it's clearance which is not uncommon (and the tower often takes a minute or two). The Lear is obligated to do the read back and they did not make a mistake and have to read it again which can sometimes happen.
    The triple 777 was simply conveying to the tower they where ready to go and sometimes the tower will get the hint and let them go ahead. It is common for the tower to not want to reshuffle and so they leave things as they are.
    Depending on the the heavy, they generally allocate 75-300gal for up to 15-20min taxi or holding. He was in no way concerned about fuel - it was just his way to convey he was ready to go.
    Neither airplane was delayed in any way. Shoot, I have had to wait 10min as 6 or 7 other aircraft slowly go strolling by when I could have been expedited; this is completely normal, there is nothing here.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  6 лет назад

      hmmmmm interesting !!!!

    • @sailorman8668
      @sailorman8668 5 лет назад +1

      The 777 was CLEARLY ready to taxi, but had to wait, so how do you figure that they were not 'delayed in any way'?

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt 3 года назад +1

      The fooking Lear jet pilot didn't know what planet he was on let alone airport!
      The heavy bird should have had priority according to fuel safety rules ffs!

  • @Firedog105
    @Firedog105 6 лет назад +33

    That was impressive takeoff of the big guy .

  • @sauerkraut14
    @sauerkraut14 5 лет назад +8

    The view and sound of the 777 takeoff is superb!!

  • @WashburnD10
    @WashburnD10 8 лет назад +1

    Even if he got the call back wrong, probably still made sense to let him off first as the 777 wake would take longer to settle and that's inappropriate for a medevac. Good call by the tower.

  • @MichaelSeibert
    @MichaelSeibert 4 года назад +5

    I love how the B777 had a shorter take off role, than the Learjet. Talk about power 😅

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt 3 года назад

      Probably only two passengers on the 777. But the speedbird pilot was spot on about fuel burn. Their journey is based on fuel load per passenger and cargo. They have to maintain a safety calculation that doesn't allow for dickhead private pilots being fuckheads.

  • @rosewilkinson6557
    @rosewilkinson6557 5 лет назад +60

    I can totally understand his frustration - given the amount of fuel those things burn just getting to the holding point!

    • @lauralauren6432
      @lauralauren6432 Год назад

      The AIR is the fuel. AIR-PLANE. Flying over The PLANE.

    • @rosewilkinson6557
      @rosewilkinson6557 Год назад +1

      @@lauralauren6432 your comment has no relevance to mine.

    • @lauralauren6432
      @lauralauren6432 Год назад

      @@rosewilkinson6557 NO. You have no idea how Volume works. We all have been HAD all our lives.

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt 11 месяцев назад

      ​@lauralauren6432 you on drugs or medication?

    • @G_Diddler
      @G_Diddler 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@lauralauren6432no the fuel is the fuel planes aren’t powered by air??

  • @bibendum344
    @bibendum344 6 лет назад +7

    I lived under the approach path to SKB IN 2012 AND 2013. It's nice to see this place again but sad to see that Amerijet is no longer flying their 727's from Miami. That was always a treat, especially when the winds reversed and they took off towards the Caribbean

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  6 лет назад +2

      that''s awesome to know !!!!

  • @ChrisComley
    @ChrisComley 6 лет назад +2

    ATC guy seems very laid back - am reminded of the time a Jamaican was asked if they had a local word for "procrastinate". The guy ponders for a few minutes then says "no, I don't believe we have any words which convey that degree of urgency".

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  6 лет назад

      island life is always laid back !!!

  • @i.c.a.productionsbyr.p.
    @i.c.a.productionsbyr.p. 5 лет назад +28

    Fabulous take-off of the GE-90 BA: perfect!!!

    • @aviationlba747
      @aviationlba747 3 года назад +2

      @British Airways Boeing 747-436 This particular 777-200 has GE-90s.

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 2 года назад

      @@aviationlba747 The GE90 of 772 looks so small tho

  • @markyfilarky
    @markyfilarky 5 лет назад +13

    4:05 is hilarious. After being called "big guy" the camera pans across to the BA plane that is about 5x the size hahaha

  • @TopCop1982
    @TopCop1982 7 лет назад +421

    This video is incredibly captivating! Very informative and instructive. Now I’m going to step it up a notch and watch paint dry in slow motion.

    • @williedrone262
      @williedrone262 5 лет назад +2

      jajajajajajajaja thats too funny!

    • @williedrone262
      @williedrone262 5 лет назад +4

      Amazing things happen when you watch paint dry in slo mo

    • @blackwidow8412
      @blackwidow8412 5 лет назад

      @@williedrone262 😂😂

    • @Flightstar
      @Flightstar 5 лет назад +2

      I hope there is such a video of that. I would go another notch further and into the settings and select speed .25 to make the experience last even longer.

    • @towermonkey90
      @towermonkey90 5 лет назад

      If you think that's cool, check out the earth rotating in slo-mo!

  • @sylviaelse5086
    @sylviaelse5086 8 лет назад +54

    Well, the speedbird had a point - while the Learjet was getting his clearance, the speedbird could have been off and away instead of burning fuel on the ground.

    • @thomasdalfonso9515
      @thomasdalfonso9515 6 лет назад +6

      Who knows what was going on in the Medvac, maybe their patient was in middle of code It was a Medvac, learn to live with it, someday you may need on

    • @bronxpinstripes
      @bronxpinstripes 5 лет назад +8

      "...while the Learjet was getting his clearance, the speedbird could have been off and away..."
      ...and creating severe wake turbulence for the Learjet.
      There's a process.

    • @sarge6870
      @sarge6870 5 лет назад +2

      @@thomasdalfonso9515 We know what was going on in the Medivac...we listened to the ATC communications! If the patient was coding, the Medivac flight would have been cancelled anyway and the patient taken back to the hospital.

    • @9vyra914
      @9vyra914 2 года назад +1

      That risk shouldn't be taken; medevac gets priority. If the 777 took off first, the learjet would have to wait another 2-5 minutes because of wake turbulence.

  • @dougbrobst3178
    @dougbrobst3178 7 лет назад +22

    Wow, the power just to get that brick in the air!!

  • @FoolioBeardy
    @FoolioBeardy 8 лет назад +343

    That triple 7 has a tighter turning radius than my Subaru.

    • @telecomgear
      @telecomgear 8 лет назад +13

      You saw that, huh? I thought it might go backwards if he cut it more.

    • @paulnungesser8553
      @paulnungesser8553 6 лет назад

      FoolioBeardy u

    • @TheBadRaven
      @TheBadRaven 6 лет назад +11

      Even a Supertanker has a tighter turn than a Subaru

    • @The_Joker_
      @The_Joker_ 5 лет назад +1

      FoolioBeardy 08:09 😮

    • @rossmitchell8255
      @rossmitchell8255 5 лет назад +5

      Take your subaru to the dealer.It's fucked

  • @SIGINT007
    @SIGINT007 5 лет назад +15

    “Sorry about that, big guy”
    Savage

  • @virginiafry9854
    @virginiafry9854 5 лет назад +13

    The take off doesn’t do justice to just how fast a Lear Jet is!

    • @ngaviation3489
      @ngaviation3489 2 года назад +2

      The 777 actually took off faster than the learjet!

  • @Administrator_O-5
    @Administrator_O-5 6 лет назад +263

    Best argument I've heard on ATC was between ATC Berlin & Lufthansa. The Lufthansa pilot kept speaking German over the comms & ATC told him numerous times "you are required to transmit all communications in English!" Finally the Lufthansa pilot gets really pissed & starts yelling at ATC in English "I am a German pilot, flying a German airline, at a German airport! Why must I be demeaned into speaking only English???". That's when a older raspy British voice from a British Airways plane waiting to depart came over the radio & said "because you lost the bloody war that's why old chap!". Absolutely hilarious & awesome! God I love the British!

    • @crazyflod
      @crazyflod 6 лет назад +10

      I need to find that video

    • @youngavaitor
      @youngavaitor 6 лет назад +8

      I found the story and supposidly a Pan am 727 heard a lufthansa 747 pilot go off for having to be told to speak english the German pilot was suspended 3 days

    • @Curi0u50ne
      @Curi0u50ne 6 лет назад +2

      Magestic oh the arrogance 😂

    • @MJLeger-yj1ww
      @MJLeger-yj1ww 6 лет назад +6

      So true -- good comeuppance from the Brit -- typical! (English has been the international language in aviation since the early 1950s!) Get used to it, Herr!

    • @scheeenfilmiesgucke
      @scheeenfilmiesgucke 6 лет назад +14

      Obviously made up

  • @corybrayshaw9927
    @corybrayshaw9927 8 лет назад +12

    "Sorry about that big guy"
    I almost died LMAO

  • @michael184272
    @michael184272 6 лет назад

    Amazing video..
    For all those of you that have had first hand experiences and share those you are all greatly appreciated...It's a big help to the rest of us novices who still enjoy watching..
    very professional..
    Thanks for sharing

  • @arizonaslotwins1414
    @arizonaslotwins1414 8 лет назад +132

    The last 30 seconds were the best part of this video.

  • @rizwansulehry9796
    @rizwansulehry9796 2 года назад

    Arrogant speedbird pilot gets the deserved treatment. A slap. The timing of the Medevac pilot was superb!

  • @alanjackson526
    @alanjackson526 8 лет назад +34

    Also this video was edited a couple of times to make it shorter so the b777 could have been waiting a lot longer. I still feel that it's the ATC fault for not letting the 777 out whilst waiting for the route clearance on the medivac

    • @psychomonkeyinc
      @psychomonkeyinc 6 лет назад

      alan jackson they carry two hours of extra fuel for emergencies. That's two hours at throttle up

    • @kerryclark1926
      @kerryclark1926 5 лет назад +2

      @@psychomonkeyinc
      Yah. But why use it if you don't have to?

    • @ardmoreautomotive9551
      @ardmoreautomotive9551 5 лет назад +1

      True

    • @ryhk3293
      @ryhk3293 Год назад

      So the Medevac can be delayed for 2-5 minutes for wake turbulence to clear after a heavy takes off for the Medevac to be able to go? Note the Lear's super long takeoff run - very smooth for the sake of the patient.
      Pros do things a certain way for a reason.

  • @gavinmichael8495
    @gavinmichael8495 7 лет назад +2

    Was worth the wait, beautiful and quick take off.

  • @bigtaxrefund
    @bigtaxrefund 5 лет назад +22

    Hes not impatient. Hes responsible for an airline operation. Time and fuel burn is an issue. I'm a pilot I know these things.

    • @liamvas
      @liamvas Год назад +2

      100%.

    • @superlogistics1
      @superlogistics1 Год назад +1

      Whatever

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt 10 месяцев назад

      ​@superlogistics1 tw@t. Obviously you don't fly nob.

  • @shaunslattery1667
    @shaunslattery1667 5 лет назад +11

    It really showed the power of these aircraft,well at least the big one.😎

  • @alangale5666
    @alangale5666 5 лет назад +42

    Nothing impatient about the BA captains comment, He was stating a fact that the aircraft was burning a lot of fuel sitting on the ground whilst the medevac pilots were pissing about. BA were, and always are, totally professional.

    • @nunya2954
      @nunya2954 4 года назад +1

      THEY WEREN'T PISSING AROUND, THE CONTROLLER GOT THE MEDEVAC'S PLANE INFO WRONG AND THEY COULDN'T TAKE OF, YOU FUCKING IDIOT. AND THEY HAVE PRIORITY OVER OTHER FLIGHTS, ALSO THE BA PILOTS CAUGHT THE ERROR JUST AS THE MEDE PILOT DID. ATC SCREWED UP. SO YOU STFU DOLT.

    • @nunya2954
      @nunya2954 4 года назад

      @Stance Pilot - YOU didn't listen either.

  • @operatordirt4611
    @operatordirt4611 8 лет назад +26

    XD "sorry about that big guy" I can't breathe

  • @andrewgraham7659
    @andrewgraham7659 7 лет назад +264

    How is that impatient, the pilot voiced a concern that he was burning fuel. That's a fact. There was urgency, but not impatience.

    • @philmontejano5971
      @philmontejano5971 5 лет назад +24

      He not impatient just can't tolerate stupidity

    • @johnrogan9420
      @johnrogan9420 5 лет назад +5

      777 goes first over Mr foreign businessman!

    • @codylapoint
      @codylapoint 5 лет назад +49

      It was a Medevac plane you twat, means it is transporting a critically ill patient to a hospital.

    • @UncleBoratagain
      @UncleBoratagain 5 лет назад +9

      Carping about fuel when on the actual ground? Always carry discretionary hydrocarbons inbound AND outbound this often challenging piece of geography. Fool.

    • @SunSkipper360
      @SunSkipper360 5 лет назад +8

      I really hate armchair pilots like you Andrew. Concerned/Impatient... who cares. You get the idea don't you?!?!

  • @WingNuts2010
    @WingNuts2010 5 лет назад +14

    I agree with the comments below. We English speaking people are lucky that English is the international language for ATC, Flight Crew and Aircraft Engineers. Flight Crew and ATC personnel not having a good standard or using English has cost lives in the past. In this case, it was the Medevac's crew who seemed to have difficulty with the language. Thankfully it resulted in a justifiable prompt from the BA crew and nothing more.

    • @MaartenOosterbaan
      @MaartenOosterbaan 5 лет назад

      Medevac sounded pretty American to me....plus an average 777 burns lots more on just a busy airport waiting to take off say yeah he was being a dick.

    • @taylort5672
      @taylort5672 2 года назад

      @@MaartenOosterbaan He wasn't being a dick, he was being safe. Choose your airline wisely dipstick

  • @copterco
    @copterco 8 лет назад +4

    awesome rotation of the 777, awesome video my friend :)

  • @3204clivesinclair
    @3204clivesinclair 8 лет назад +5

    Airlines have a responsibility to use less fuel - not only to save money, but the Environment. ATC also has a responsibility to keep local pollution to a minimum. Had the 777 left first, the LJ45 would have had a wake turbulence 'wait'. Airline also have schedules to keep and delays can and do effect transit passengers at other airports.

  • @TheGiokink
    @TheGiokink 8 лет назад +660

    Well thats 10mins of my life I wont be getting back anytime soon.

    • @TheGiokink
      @TheGiokink 7 лет назад +3

      Did I tell you I fly Speedbirds :-)

    • @TheGiokink
      @TheGiokink 7 лет назад +11

      Sorry Im fibbing I have trouble driving a Toyota Prius lol

    • @TheGiokink
      @TheGiokink 7 лет назад +20

      Sorry Mensa didnt realise my comments had such a profound effect on you . Have you tried therapy?

    • @TheGiokink
      @TheGiokink 7 лет назад +12

      It's OK Mensa I wouldnt want to deprive you of yours , particularly after your 5 sisters and 4 brothers have used it.

    • @TheGiokink
      @TheGiokink 7 лет назад +8

      Think you will find its on you knob ed

  • @dingbat19
    @dingbat19 8 лет назад +35

    good catch and wow, that 777 can turn on a dime !

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +1

      thanks...where are you from ?

    • @titan1235813
      @titan1235813 8 лет назад +4

      I know, right? The 777 has great aerodynamics, especially considering the size of it.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  7 лет назад +2

      Mohammad Raza the main triple gears also turn a bit to make a tighter turn on the 777 in case you guys don't now that

    • @bobbybobberson1559
      @bobbybobberson1559 7 лет назад +2

      Mohammad Raza no. I believe he means that the wheels turn (as in left and right & not as in forward and backwards because of a motor attached to them. which would mean the plane wouldn't have to use the big engines under the wings to taxi). plus when turning a multi-engine plane, pilots use the exact fact that the engines are controlled separately and on opposite sides of the plane, so they power the right engine more then the left engine while turning left, and they power the left engine more then the right engine when they turn left.
      hope that clears any confusion and I also hope that is correct (pretty sure it is!)
      have a good day sir!

    • @obese1konobe
      @obese1konobe 7 лет назад +10

      LOL the main gear is powered by those big spinny round things bolted under each wing

  • @Insperato62
    @Insperato62 5 лет назад +13

    Can you imagine the rumpus that medevac would have caused at Heathrow?!!! It would not have been allowed. The BA crew were entitled to expect the same standard of professionalism at St Kitts as they get at home. Guzzling fuel going on.

  • @rjb073
    @rjb073 6 лет назад +1

    I enjoy watching the big birds taking off.

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 4 года назад +33

    That wasn't impatience from Speedbird. That was a request for some expediency on all parties' parts. He could've been down the runway and into the air for how long that Medevac faffed about on that read back

    • @Turbomgzt
      @Turbomgzt 4 года назад +3

      Mystic Thunder the triple 7 pilot was worried about his reserve for safety reasons.

    • @sludge4125
      @sludge4125 2 года назад

      @@Turbomgzt despite the fact he can fly for two hours on his reserve. Fly, not idle. We all hate to wait.

    • @richardjones6763
      @richardjones6763 Год назад

      ​@@sludge4125 by

  • @johanjacobs9240
    @johanjacobs9240 5 лет назад

    About 35 seconds from brake release to rotate for the 777.
    Although she was light it is still impressive!
    Thanks for the video.

  • @SB9P4
    @SB9P4 6 лет назад +4

    B777 only 12 seconds the takeoff, fantastic!

  • @cmcneill60
    @cmcneill60 4 года назад +1

    Very patient and professional pilot

  • @robthemod58
    @robthemod58 Год назад

    7:46 better turning circle than my motor!

  • @happysawfish
    @happysawfish 8 лет назад +25

    What you goobers seem to miss is the Learjet crew's *understanding* of the clearance. Remember these guys are using headsets and talking on radios. You don't know what was heard through their equipment. They obviously were not hearing what was intended for some reason, and i don't believe it was stupidity or laziness. Add to that deciphering by ear the lovely accent of the Carribean controller. A translator for that controller's dialect would have been useful because I had difficulty understanding it as well, even without the static and noise from the radios, background, moaning passenger, headsets etc.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +2

      interesting observation :) !!!

    • @sixdoubledeuce
      @sixdoubledeuce 6 лет назад +5

      Whad du talkin boat mon dat controlla got nooooo accent

    • @terrymalone6086
      @terrymalone6086 6 лет назад

      Thank you for telling the facts! I have been there, done that. Them some asshole in an airliner breathing down your neck doesn't help a damned bit.

    • @timcooke7105
      @timcooke7105 6 лет назад

      happysawfish Accent and dialect are not synonyms.

    • @jmillie9556
      @jmillie9556 5 лет назад

      Awsome time! Best vidio ever!!@

  • @charleslong5373
    @charleslong5373 4 года назад +2

    I was landing a little Cessna 172 at a major airport, and it took me at least 3 minutes to approach, and do my run out. All the big heavy birds were waiting to depart. They must have cursed me. Soon after that the airport imposed a $25 fee for any light private aircraft landing. A while later a light aircraft was defined as any private single engine aircraft weighing less than 5600 pounds.

  • @waleedalaghbari6968
    @waleedalaghbari6968 6 лет назад +11

    Well done ba pilots. No room for error. They are seriouse and prof

  • @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329
    @thebrummierailenthusiasts5329 3 месяца назад +1

    3:07 no wonder that pilot is getting impatient

  • @911Locksmiths
    @911Locksmiths 5 лет назад +4

    I had a mate that was a Captain flying mainly in Europe, he used to tell me that Business Jet's would pass his 737-800 like it was standing still and 10k higher

  • @ganz7ful
    @ganz7ful 6 лет назад +4

    BA pilot bang on right. Get on with it guys. We haven't got all day!

  • @RVREVO
    @RVREVO 6 лет назад +4

    Noted that the big one had a shorter take off than the learjet

  • @beninua
    @beninua 5 лет назад +2

    What I - a complete amateur - found quite impressive was that the 777 used about half the length of the runway the Learjet used before rotation. But I was also very surprised to see how much runway and speed the Learjet needs before the pilot was able to take off. I was thinking several times "Why don't you rotate?" while watching it speeding down the runway.
    Another thing that bothered me a little was that the Learjet pilot seemed extremely insecure. I would hate to experience that if I ever heard a pilot so insecure on a plane that was about to take off with me as a passenger. LOL

    • @dantee7893
      @dantee7893 5 лет назад

      The pilot was not insecure at all - it's a remote airport with multiple and converging airways towards the USA, and a bit of accent causing the LearJet to take a bit longer to identify what the controller was referring to, especially as it's a tiny island with the pilot perhaps being there for the first time (as possibly evident by his turn at the end of the runway).

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  5 лет назад

      interesting observation

    • @MaartenOosterbaan
      @MaartenOosterbaan 2 года назад

      medevac....maybe taking a very cautious approach to take-off for the benefit of the patient...

  • @TCX757Pilot
    @TCX757Pilot 8 лет назад +160

    People slagging off the BA crew, let's just run through this. The 777 may be idling, but even a pair of idling GEs that would be on that 777 would be burning a lot of fuel, he would have been given Engine start clearance by the tower, therefore, it's the tower's fault he's burning that fuel. Fuel Costs money, and not only that, given its the short hop to Antigua, he probably wouldn't have had that much on to begin with, therefore, would also be worried about how much fuel he'd actually have for the flying, and whether he'd have to top off his load again, which would mean more time on the ground, and a) ruin his schedule, and b) cost his company more money. The Medevac takes at least 3 minutes of this video to get his clearance correct, that's not good, so I believe the Speedbird crew have every right to interrupt. They're not impatient; they're simply doing the right thing, and at the end of the day, it's the tower's fault they've had to do that. Also, people commenting on the fast Rotation, of course it's gonna have a fast rotation, it's probably got about 50/60 people on board, maximum, and the fuel to get over to Antigua plus reserves, the TWR will be enormous thanks to those GEs!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +2

      Interesting observation....the scanner was chipping out at times so the wait was longer that what the video has shown....many people who don't know how BA flights are to the region would assume its direct with that faster rotation.....i have it in the description and people still ask about it lol

    • @thisissoeasy
      @thisissoeasy 6 лет назад +3

      Thomas von Aquin: Thanks for sharing! This was extremely interesting information...

    • @thisissoeasy
      @thisissoeasy 6 лет назад +2

      TCX757Pilot That was very well said! I totally agree....

    • @johnbusch7128
      @johnbusch7128 6 лет назад

      TCX757Pilot u

    • @terrymalone6086
      @terrymalone6086 6 лет назад +1

      Should have though about that when he bought that pos.

  • @theirishaviator4015
    @theirishaviator4015 4 года назад

    Fantastic Video, Loved the Medevac Pilot's "sorry about that Big Guy"😂

  • @Maino88
    @Maino88 8 лет назад +372

    See in Britain we would consider what the speedbird pilot said to be 'geeing along'. It's not impolite. It's a way of indirectly emphasising that we don't have all day here, and that if everyone could expeditiously address the matter at hand, that would be just lovely.
    The rest of the world gets butt hurt and offended. Toughen up, sugar puffs.

    • @stephenp448
      @stephenp448 8 лет назад +43

      Also, in the world I fly in, medevac flights have unconditional priority over pretty much everything, including speedbird's fuel consumption.

    • @matthewwilkinson1870
      @matthewwilkinson1870 8 лет назад +19

      The medevac didn't seem to be in much of a rush.

    • @stephenp448
      @stephenp448 8 лет назад +29

      Matthew lawrence Maybe not, but when I was doing my training I was told (in no uncertain terms after I inadvertently held up an air ambulance from takeoff) that you give way to any aircraft using Medevac in their callsign. My CFI specifically said "unconditional priority".

    • @matthewwilkinson1870
      @matthewwilkinson1870 8 лет назад +6

      Stephen Parkin Well said.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +2

      interesting on both perspectives !!!!!

  • @larryrussell3181
    @larryrussell3181 5 лет назад +2

    Why was this titled "Impatient BA Pilot"? They were nothing except the daily perfection these men give us !!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  4 года назад +1

      your opinion....which is not the same of many

  • @The_Joker_
    @The_Joker_ 5 лет назад +21

    That’s correct you are a
    Whiskey
    Alpha
    November
    Kilo
    Echo
    Romeo

  • @Trowsiff-uk
    @Trowsiff-uk 5 лет назад +1

    What an action packed, exhilarating and exciting video, should have played Top Guns highway to the danger zone as background music. I’m quite surprised the cameraman filming didn’t do a sex wee whilst recording such top notch, adrenaline fuelled action. OFF THE HOOK!!!!!

  • @boblewin7099
    @boblewin7099 8 лет назад +6

    I am right with that BA captain. He should have gotten his clearance before the medevac guy.

    • @dwightneisler3844
      @dwightneisler3844 6 лет назад

      1st come 1st served unless an emergency is declared.

  • @mudabudda
    @mudabudda 8 лет назад +2

    it's not all about tea and biscuits in england good on you captain I'd feel safe knowing your at the controls

  • @Kyranoboss
    @Kyranoboss 5 лет назад +9

    That's 10 mins of my life I'll never get back

  • @woptown619
    @woptown619 5 лет назад +2

    Those GE 90’s are impressive

  • @koppadasao
    @koppadasao 7 лет назад +1

    The Medevac toy plane could almost fit in the Speedbird's engines.

  • @DezRosswess
    @DezRosswess 8 лет назад +94

    "Sorry about that big guy" that was a slapdown!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +1

      lol ;p;

    • @Aleksandar6ix
      @Aleksandar6ix 8 лет назад +10

      Big guy should not have needed to say anything. The money's not flowing out of his pocket.

    • @mcapps1
      @mcapps1 7 лет назад +9

      A pilot is responsible for EVERYTHING on his aircraft, including it's fuel.

    • @okbutthenagain.9402
      @okbutthenagain.9402 7 лет назад

      Nope as the medivac had no priority clearance for take which means he was 'NORMAL traffic".

    • @maverick4220
      @maverick4220 7 лет назад

      Dez Rosswess Well when you put a triple 7 next to a Learjet 45 i wouldn't of took it as a slapdown because i am a big guy.

  • @CaptainStevenMarkovich
    @CaptainStevenMarkovich 6 лет назад

    Enjoyed the video. Subscribed

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  6 лет назад

      thanks where are you from ?

  • @petros7929
    @petros7929 8 лет назад +24

    Very rare in my opinion to hear a speedbird pilot become a bit upset by taxiway or runway operations. I think they are usually assertive but polite. It seems that this crew was probably a continuing crew to Gatwick which will mean a very long trek for them.

    • @mizzyroro
      @mizzyroro 8 лет назад +4

      Oh no there are a few vids of speedbird captains with their heads up their arses. One good one is landing in Toronto I think, they were given instrucrions to exit the runway after landing. When they exited they came on the micand abused the controller telling him next time wait until they are finished their landing roll to give them instructions!!! How bloody rude!!!

    • @petros7929
      @petros7929 8 лет назад +11

      Although the brit pilots may have overreacted, the protocol for ATC is that you don't give instructions or disturb pilots while on a landing or takeoff roll, unless of course danger is imminent.

    • @rhythmace1
      @rhythmace1 5 лет назад +1

      I flew this route 3 years ago and the crew changed in Antigua on the way to St Kitts, so I think you might be right about them having a long trek back to London ahead of them.

    • @petros7929
      @petros7929 4 года назад +1

      @@mizzyroro Probably so, but then again, controllers are abstained from giving instructions to pilots when they are either on a t/o roll or landing. They are too busy, during those moments. Toronto should have waited until landing was completed and then give instructions if necessary. Usually the pilot will inform the ATC of runway vacating taxi way unless there are some issues that ATC needs then to take specific exit points or continue to the end of the runway.

    • @s550days
      @s550days Год назад +1

      @@rhythmace1the crew's rotation is LGW-ANU then the next day ANU-SKU-ANU then the next day ANU-LGW. The crew that you see get on at Antigua will end up back in Antigua for another night after the shuttle.

  • @sla31
    @sla31 8 лет назад

    Really nice video! Good catch on the ATC. Thumbs up form me!

  • @swampfuel20
    @swampfuel20 5 лет назад +26

    Jaisss mon, no worries. We be flyin hye in no time mon....

    • @tedboeing
      @tedboeing 4 года назад

      swampfuel20 you beautiful beast !!!!! Love you BOEING

  • @WhiskeyGulf71
    @WhiskeyGulf71 Год назад

    I was passing LGW 08R on the perimeter road just yesterday & this very aircraft was on the taxiway waiting for takeoff clearance.
    It sat there for ten minutes which gave me a second view of it as it flew over East Surrey as i came in to Reigate.

  • @rumplestiltskin7304
    @rumplestiltskin7304 4 года назад +4

    The 777 lifted off quicker than the Lear.

  • @JelmersAviation
    @JelmersAviation 8 лет назад +1

    Another fantastic video mate! Liked!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +1

      you know how i do things :)

  • @jjsifo1
    @jjsifo1 7 лет назад +23

    Sorry about that Big Guy,that was good. A Medevac is a Medevac it has Priority.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  7 лет назад +3

      lol i like the humor there to but there has been so many comments and mix views about this....the video literally went viral i never thought it would

    • @tomklein9937
      @tomklein9937 7 лет назад +1

      priority, if and when both planes are ready to go. the lear clearly wasn't...

    • @karleastman5456
      @karleastman5456 7 лет назад +3

      ONLY, IF it was a Necessity to be elsewhere.
      I worked in the medical field for over 30 years, deaths occur because of arrogance every day in medical transport of any modality.

    • @stevie67
      @stevie67 5 лет назад +2

      Fair enough,but a big plane isn't going 50 mile's..passenger's and baggage and fuel are accounted for.is a lear jet faster than an ambulance?

  • @patrickkinney9643
    @patrickkinney9643 6 лет назад +2

    Great video of both takeoffs!!

  • @MSFSFreeware
    @MSFSFreeware 5 лет назад +3

    That, was NOT interesting. It was VERY basic, and you are completely wrong. The BA pilot was simply pointing out that he was burning fuel and was being delayed for a readback that should, realistically, have lost the aircraft that slot (it did not have clearance "waiting for a call from SanJuan"). At any other main airport the tiny jet would have been told to taxi to hold and the 777 would have been released while San Juan rang back. Very strange.

  • @jstuttgart
    @jstuttgart 8 лет назад +1

    This channel is like my Morning tea! Can't start my day without it.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад

      lol ha ha nice to know

  • @qc7112
    @qc7112 3 года назад +6

    Wow! The 777 rotated earlier than the Learjet!

  • @hewhohasnoidentity4377
    @hewhohasnoidentity4377 4 года назад +1

    I'm gonna add a speculation I don't see elsewhere.... This flight has multiple legs, I think the description said one more small airport stop and then one of the London airports.
    Not hearing any other traffic or seeing other activity and observing the airport size and adding that the aircraft is already extremely light, I am speculating that there is either no fuel available for him there or extremely preferable due to cost and time inefficiency not to fuel there.
    I don't think one reminder that the delay is getting expensive and has the potential to turn into well over a hundred thousand dollars very quickly if things don't get moving soon is being impatient.

    • @AndyWhite
      @AndyWhite 4 года назад

      I think the difference in cost is fairly negligible in the great scheme of things - I suspect this is more about having reduced fuel for the arrival / ability to hold and increasing the risk of a diversion. But cost of course comes into it at the organisational level.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  4 года назад

      you are so right with this comment, it does have to do with the reduce fuel for the short leg, they do not refuel in St. Kitts ...they do that in Antigua which is just 15 minutes away flying time and the shortest 777 flight i think BA has on its network.

  • @CoverBrazilian
    @CoverBrazilian 8 лет назад +19

    Damn that was a fast takeoff from BA.

  • @ohheyitskevinc
    @ohheyitskevinc 5 лет назад

    Flight plan for the Medevac should have been filed and provided prior to them getting in the plane. They need that for the fuel required vs weight. They were already fuelled. The Speedbird had a flight plan already filed, had the fuel they needed for the hop to AGU, and were pushed back. At that point, given the Medevac wasn’t even ready to go, Speedbird had the priority to depart and it wouldn’t have delayed the Medevac at all. The BA captain or FO simply stated the fact they were wasting fuel. If they’d known at that point how much longer it would take to finally get in the air, they’d have likely been actually impatient as this video implies. Turns out they weren’t at all, hence the dislikes on this video.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  5 лет назад

      interesting take on it !!!!

  • @Mjws2907
    @Mjws2907 8 лет назад +11

    Medevac had priority taxi and take-off, but he knew where he was going to taxi to, could get his clearance delivery sorted in between pre-take-off checks anyway, understandably the BA pilot made a suggestion to move things along a bit. And I think he's more worried about ETOPS fuel-requirements than about crew-hours.

    • @xxtwr1
      @xxtwr1 7 лет назад

      Medivac only gets priority when requested for that flight. If he is filed Medevac it is an indication that he could be transporting a priority patient and that priority is required. That is indicated by the work Medevac immediately after the ident. However, if your'e not ready, no delay should be created for other aircraft.

  • @TravelWithJose
    @TravelWithJose 7 лет назад

    Another great catch and video by SKBenergy. Huge thanks for sharing!

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  7 лет назад

      thanks....its been a while how are things with you ?

    • @TravelWithJose
      @TravelWithJose 7 лет назад

      Every thing is good. I have started to post video's again, and making comments on other people's video's.

  • @dlwatib
    @dlwatib 7 лет назад +9

    I didn't see or hear anything requiring the use of even one exclamation point, let alone three. I ended up wondering why this is taking up bitspace on youtube.

    • @wuddude1599
      @wuddude1599 6 лет назад

      Yep, I don't understand the value of having this available on RUclips.

  • @cstoreyqc
    @cstoreyqc 8 лет назад +1

    Utter incompetence on the part of the man handling the comms in the Lear ; it calls into question the captain's competence that he did not take over the comms. I thought the Speedbird pilot was very restrained !

  • @virginiafry9854
    @virginiafry9854 5 лет назад +3

    While medevac flights generally take priority, the BA aircraft should have been allowed to take off while the medevac was doing a laborious feedback!!!

    • @sailorman8668
      @sailorman8668 5 лет назад

      'Feedback'?

    • @virginiafry9854
      @virginiafry9854 4 года назад

      Sailor Man Feedback is what a pilot does - he/she is given instructions from the tower (heading, altitude) and he/she reads them back so that the tower knows that the instructions have been understood.

  • @syfspotter
    @syfspotter Год назад +1

    So noone gonna talk how short that takeoff was?

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  Год назад +1

      lol that bird was not departing direct to London but rather a short 15 minute hop to the nearby island of Antigua, so it was light

  • @StevieSmith77
    @StevieSmith77 8 лет назад +103

    the 777 needed less runway than the medivac. That's some PWR!

    • @Sparatan117
      @Sparatan117 8 лет назад +10

      Calm down Clarkson

    • @frank_love
      @frank_love 8 лет назад

      Its a beast

    • @Boyd751965
      @Boyd751965 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah, I was impressed by the power of it first time I headed to SE Asia... Much more acceleration than a 737, even fully loaded

    • @d1zguy864
      @d1zguy864 8 лет назад +11

      Thanks to the all night ge90. Best commercial airplane engine in the world. Rolls Royce and p&w are shit

    • @Sparatan117
      @Sparatan117 8 лет назад +8

      Pratt & Whitney are some of the best engines that have ever been built. The best motor in WW2 fighters by far. I would make my comments more thoughtful before spouting my mouth off like that

  • @bradyzollars8212
    @bradyzollars8212 5 лет назад

    The sound of the takeoffs is so satisfying!

  • @braindrain8922
    @braindrain8922 5 лет назад +1

    I've loaded the 777's used on this destination and later in my career with BA checked passengers in for it as well 👍

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  5 лет назад

      kool to know

    • @braindrain8922
      @braindrain8922 5 лет назад

      @@skbenergy And I still regret the day I left BA, it was a great company to work for back then. We were all very proud workers. I was still working on the ramp when the first 777's came to LGW , those big GE's were very strange the first time you heard them . And many thanks for uploading this great footage 👍

  • @MrJdsenior
    @MrJdsenior 7 лет назад +3

    It makes more sense that he was somewhat impatient when you read the description. It was a short island hop flight with little fuel on board, so he may have been worried on that front, or that if they had to go back and top up, passengers wouldn't be happy. I can certainly see why they prioritize the medivac, though, just as they would a medical emergency (or any other) on any aircraft declaring emergency or pan pan, and that makes obvious sense, too. The real problem wasn't the medivac pilot, but the controller, to my mind, in the delay getting the info across.

  • @anuaviation3510
    @anuaviation3510 8 лет назад

    amazing as always and GE90 ARE THE BOMB

    • @luluu1922
      @luluu1922 8 лет назад

      777-300ER are better cause where getting them in September at Canberra international airport. YSCB ROCKS LIKE HELL

    • @anuaviation3510
      @anuaviation3510 8 лет назад

      +Scoot fan/Transportation Fred cool to here
      And yes the 773 are ok.

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад

      where is that ?

    • @anuaviation3510
      @anuaviation3510 8 лет назад

      SKBenergy Australia

  • @p-mies1192
    @p-mies1192 4 года назад +3

    Im gonna ignore everything about all that and just focus on the Ge90 sound

  • @KushalDave
    @KushalDave 4 года назад

    Nice video MAN

  • @cinderswolfhound6874
    @cinderswolfhound6874 4 года назад +3

    O M G these are professionals ? I guess the medivac pilot is still in training as i got his clearance first time and im still training

  • @kevinstephenson3880
    @kevinstephenson3880 4 года назад +1

    Time is money! Good on ya Speedbird!

  • @AviationNZ
    @AviationNZ 8 лет назад +10

    Nice! Darn, I so love the T7 spool up, and with a nice spray. Funny catch of the ATC convo!

  • @PenAirPilot
    @PenAirPilot 3 года назад +1

    Let alone the fuel burn, I hope there isnt a real patient on that medivac Lear......

  • @callumdoyle1798
    @callumdoyle1798 8 лет назад +10

    That medevac was so slow reading...

    • @boringperson-zb8vy
      @boringperson-zb8vy 5 лет назад +3

      Not as urgent as you'd expect a "medical evacuation" to be

  • @ericlozen9631
    @ericlozen9631 5 лет назад +1

    I watched this quite a while ago and I believe I made a comment. Wow, look how many hits you have! 👍

  • @Red-qk7hv
    @Red-qk7hv 8 лет назад +7

    That 777 looks like a -200 , didn't know it can also have a ge-90

    • @skbenergy
      @skbenergy  8 лет назад +5

      the first batch of 777-200's from BA had GE-90's on them

    • @Lee247Jamaica
      @Lee247Jamaica 3 года назад

      its an ER the 777-200s dont have the ranked wingtips compare tp the ERs

  • @MegaVector2011
    @MegaVector2011 8 лет назад +1

    Good for him. Inconsequential dangerous twits in the control tower.