So ... are you people OK with me adding into these videos short tidbits about like some effects were done, or even brief showings of commercially available models of ships included in the episode?
@@TrekkieChannel I see. I invite you to get to know my RUclips Channel. Some months ago I posted two videos explaining the Star Trek series and movies Chronology.
Ooo, I'm looking forward to the next one! I swear, that's a cocker spaniel they put in a dinosaur outfit, lol. Poor dog. Enemy Within was a good one. They really let Shat ham it up, lol! A bunch of us Orville fans are petitioning to get Shat on the Orville. We think he'd be great playing Avis! (or Yaphit's dad, but definitely Avis!)
Shatner on the Orville? That would be epic! Was the start of season 3 announced already? And BTW it looks like these comparison videos will be uploaded every Friday
@@TrekkieChannel Hells yeah, it would be epic! Can you imagine! The ratings would be off the charts! And wouldn't that just piss CBS off to no end?! Bwahahahahahahahaha! No, they haven't announced the start date for S.3 yet, as they're still filming. We probably won't see it till August or September. But yeah, everybody I've talked to wants to see Shat on The Orville. They could definitely afford him, and I'm pretty sure I've heard Shat say how disgusted he is w/STD. NOBODY likes the poophead Klingons!
In some of the Syndication Cuts off this episode there is a short of Spock leaning against the opposite wall outside of Kirk's cabin as Eve exits. He has mischievous smile (as one ST commentator put it "Like an Elf with Hypothyroid"). I remember this scene from TV broadcasts, but never in a Video package.
Am I the only one who prefers the original effects? They were state of the art for the late 1960s and still look great today. The CGI "improvements" are state of the art for 2007 and have really started to show their age to the point that they look like something you would see in a video game. The problem is the lighting on the CGI models which is soft, flat, and even, giving them an artificial appearance. Look at 1:04 in the video. The left looks like the Enterprise in space. The right looks like an image of the Enterprise pasted onto a star field background. The practical model also has blinking lights which gives it life and are curiously missing from the CGI version. The other problem with the CGI effects, at least in the opening scene here, is that they add a continuity problem with Spock being unable to identify the type of ship Mudd is flying despite it being clearly visible on the view screen.
The original TOS SFX weren't "state of the art." (The SFX in "Forbidden Planet" in 1956 were state of the art.) The TOS SFX effects were the best they could do with a limited TV budget.
Honestly there are occasionally better shots but overall the original is superior and in fact superb. There is truly no justification for these changes except to try another market ploy to sell The Original
Agreed...really no need for the updating...always wondered why Kirk and Mudd needed to leave miners residence and go out into the storm to beam up at the end of episode....this gave the impression that they were going to walk back to the ship thru the terrible ion storm...
It always bugged me that for a ship full of smart people, they couldn't figure out if they stop well short of the planet, they could've used a shuttle craft and saved power on the Enterprise for life support. And just like that, I'm smarter than 🖖 😂
Speaking of special effects: Anyone else agree with me that today, those three women (especially Karen Steele) would be considered plus-sized by today's Hollywood/supermodel standards?
![Star Trek - Where No Man Has Gone Before - Visual Effects Comparison [redux]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zd1b_JP9Tsk/mqdefault.jpg)
So ... are you people OK with me adding into these videos short tidbits about like some effects were done, or even brief showings of commercially available models of ships included in the episode?
YES!!!!!
What you're doing is great! Keep up the good work!
Hello & thank you for this channel. As a Star Trek fan for the last 45yrs. It’s well appreciated.
Thank you, I'm happy people like this type of stuff
The women in this particular episode were especially beautiful.
Are they? Are they pound for pound more lovely than any other women in other episodes?
...only by 1960s standards...
@@Bubbles99718 I see what you did there.
@@Clivebbb123 😀
@Clivebbb123 I remember watching this episode in the 80's with my Mom, who was not a trekie, and she busted up at Kirk and McCoy's bridge convo.
6:59 Damn early fades on the remastered version.
Well they had no other chance in the episodes where they didn't have the original negatives
Mudds women looked hot whatever version you watched!
They were NOT CGI.
But the premise of the story is really kind of ridiculous....
The original film patina and colors are more vibrant and,in my opinion,Much Better than CGI modern day effects!
Well I like the added CGI, it's very sympathetic and subtle.
I like it THIS episode had BEAUTIFUL WOMAN and the story was good in my top ten of TOS
It is my favorite Star Trek series.
I can't decide between TOS and TNG
@@TrekkieChannel I see. I invite you to get to know my RUclips Channel. Some months ago I posted two videos explaining the Star Trek series and movies Chronology.
Ooo, I'm looking forward to the next one! I swear, that's a cocker spaniel they put in a dinosaur outfit, lol. Poor dog. Enemy Within was a good one. They really let Shat ham it up, lol! A bunch of us Orville fans are petitioning to get Shat on the Orville. We think he'd be great playing Avis! (or Yaphit's dad, but definitely Avis!)
Shatner on the Orville? That would be epic! Was the start of season 3 announced already? And BTW it looks like these comparison videos will be uploaded every Friday
@@TrekkieChannel Hells yeah, it would be epic! Can you imagine! The ratings would be off the charts! And wouldn't that just piss CBS off to no end?! Bwahahahahahahahaha!
No, they haven't announced the start date for S.3 yet, as they're still filming. We probably won't see it till August or September. But yeah, everybody I've talked to wants to see Shat on The Orville. They could definitely afford him, and I'm pretty sure I've heard Shat say how disgusted he is w/STD. NOBODY likes the poophead Klingons!
So in the next episode Kirk fights his stunt double?👍
Yep
Nice clip at the end. ;)
In some of the Syndication Cuts off this episode there is a short of Spock leaning against the opposite wall outside of Kirk's cabin as Eve exits. He has mischievous smile (as one ST commentator put it "Like an Elf with Hypothyroid"). I remember this scene from TV broadcasts, but never in a Video package.
The DVDs have the shot.
Karen Steele (1931-1988) was a well-known actress in TV and B-films. Susan Denberg (the other blonde) was a Playboy playmate.
And who was the brunette?
@@erniemeyer1342 Maggie Thrett played "Ruth Bonaventure". She has a good scene with McCoy.
@@steelers6titles Of course I know the scene with McCoy. I just saw the two Mudd episodes today
Am I the only one who prefers the original effects? They were state of the art for the late 1960s and still look great today. The CGI "improvements" are state of the art for 2007 and have really started to show their age to the point that they look like something you would see in a video game. The problem is the lighting on the CGI models which is soft, flat, and even, giving them an artificial appearance. Look at 1:04 in the video. The left looks like the Enterprise in space. The right looks like an image of the Enterprise pasted onto a star field background. The practical model also has blinking lights which gives it life and are curiously missing from the CGI version. The other problem with the CGI effects, at least in the opening scene here, is that they add a continuity problem with Spock being unable to identify the type of ship Mudd is flying despite it being clearly visible on the view screen.
The original TOS SFX weren't "state of the art." (The SFX in "Forbidden Planet" in 1956 were state of the art.) The TOS SFX effects were the best they could do with a limited TV budget.
@@stevenlitvintchouk3131 There was really nothing better being done at the time, certainly not as part of an episodic television series.
Mid 60's...
The Enemy Within... Classic Episode...
A very nice psychological study
Honestly there are occasionally better shots but overall the original is superior and in fact superb. There is truly no justification for these changes except to try another market ploy to sell The Original
Well they wanted to do something to get the "younger audience"
Agreed...really no need for the updating...always wondered why Kirk and Mudd needed to leave miners residence and go out into the storm to beam up at the end of episode....this gave the impression that they were going to walk back to the ship thru the terrible ion storm...
It always bugged me that for a ship full of smart people, they couldn't figure out if they stop well short of the planet, they could've used a shuttle craft and saved power on the Enterprise for life support.
And just like that, I'm smarter than 🖖 😂
Speaking of special effects: Anyone else agree with me that today, those three women (especially Karen Steele) would be considered plus-sized by today's Hollywood/supermodel standards?
I don't think so. Maybe by 1990's standards
Star Trek was low budget at the time. That's why Mudd's ship was represented by a color blob.
hate cgi.