Really cool that you extended the wings I did not know that you can do that with a certified plane that is amazing and who wouldn’t want a plane that stalls at lower speeds specifically if you’re in training, I mean that’s amazing.
Glen, glad to see you restored a great airplane. A labor of love, no doubt. I remember my father demonstrating slow flight in his 1953 Cessna 180 near Ramapo Valley Airport over the NY Thruway sometime in 1968. With just the two of us on board, half fuel and 30 degree flaps, he got slowed it to 43 mph with full control. Of course, his experience flying a PBY Catalina (which was never known for speed) for the Navy in WWII might have something to do with his skill. I think he paid less than 5 grand for it. I was a straight 180, no baggage door. It was my job to fold down the rear seat and lift the luggage into the back. Every winter we flew from NJ to Florida during school vacations, 7 hours with a fuel stop. Wish I still had that plane. Cheers!
I watch your cooking shows and decided to check out your plane RUclips site. I know absolutely nothing about planes but have really enjoyed. I watched from the very beginning going forward with the rebuild to completion. It was very rewarding to see your passion come to fruition. Plane looks great.
I remember stall training in our 1946 Aeronca 7AC. A hard break and learned to keep it out of a spin quickly. Not my favourite thing to do then but later learned to enjoy the training as I got into Cessnas. Glad summer flying weather is finally with you. Enjoy! Thank you for the ride. Always a pleasure tagging along with you! Blessings.
That’s an amazing indicated airspeed, i do think though that there is probably a significant mismatch at these high angles of attack. Have you done some calibrations against ground speed in each direction to get an idea of what your calibrated airspeed should be when it reads this low? My guess is that the calibrated airspeed is in the mid 30’s for stall. Again, amazing work, just trying to understand the true performance of all the work you put in!
Interesting comment about various YT videos showing that... stuff happens. I hate "YT drama/clickbait" but it's a great opportunity that didn't exist a few decades ago to share/learn from all the messy reality. Kudos to that lone tower controller!
As I said before my 172C airspeed indicator had cease to indicate, and all I had was flap gap seals, I used it for mustering sheep in outback Queensland Austalia, Just keep the airspeed indicator working and everything was safe!!!
Great video, Glen! Love to see the classic 172 with all the modern upgrades flying like a new one! And you are spot on about proficiency. Looking forward to your next post!
There are advantages to flying from quiet airports.... My "practice area" is over my "farm", about 10-15NM from the Dryden airport CYHD and it's rare to have any traffic. I usually inform ATC I'll be 10-15 west from 8000' to 2000' practicing aerobatics and they let me know when (rarely) there is any traffic to be of concern. The downside is twofold, I do not have a lot of experience dealing with high traffic areas, and ATC in congested areas and controlled airspace, and I have to work hard to remember to make my clearing turns and traffic checks before doing aerobatics. Great disclaimer about editing, I leave out the boring bits on most videos, but it can make people think you are skipping checklists and run-ups... I'll try to make mention of that more.
Nice work. How efficient it got on stall characteristics with those mods. Beautiful work. One day I'll do the same work as you did. It's one of my dreams. Take care!
A 45 knot stall speed (stock) is already really friggin slow :D but just under 30 knots is just insane! Gotta go to BC and land on some gravel bars Glen, MVU was clearly made for that ;)
I guess 38mph on your other post. I didn't realize how much the wing extensions, cuff and VGs did to lower the stall speed. Nice for getting into short runways, and then actually being able to get out of them again! Nice stuff.
This thing can get as slow as some of your overnight recipes. Wow. Do you find now that your speeds aren't relating to POH values anymore you will fly in KTS opposed to MPH now? Surely this would help with ATC, other pilots who are flying in knots and not having to do conversions on your end? Great content. All the work in this aircraft and your training is paying huge dividends. Fly safe Glen!!!
If it was a sound mic for music or voice I'd think the mic distortion at the beginning would go away by moving the mic another half inch away from the mouth so the capsule stops being overloaded. Sometimes your voice sounds a lot better through the headset mic than it did here at the beginning. Later it was much clearer, but still some overload distortion.
Hey Glen, I have been thinking about your over heated Go Pro on the airplane dash. After noticing that you placed a fan behind it, I thought how about adding a heatsink to the base of it too. Not sure how I would do that since I do not know the anatomy of the equipment but I'm sure that you could figure something out.
Did I miss a video? I watched your Trio AP install video with great interest and was thinking there'd be a video of you testing / introducing us to it's features in flight. But it went straight to this video. How is the Trio?
Trio is a work in progress - I mention it in a few videos after the installation, but I haven't really featured it yet. At this point it really only gives basic functionality; holds altitude and course / track, which it does really well. I'm waiting on the final firmware update that will link the Trio with the Dynon, there have ben several Beta firmware updates and they are getting close to the certified release. I knew this going into the project, so this wasn't a surprise.
Glen, apologies for being a critic, but this video is misleading around the 7 min mark. No doubt you’ve got a slow flying bird. However, the the IAS/TIAS conversion on the first page of chapter 6 in the owners manual (1959 anyway) was ignored. On a factory stock airplane, the indicated airspeed of 40 is a TIAS of 52. The stall speeds are listed in TIAS. Cessna didn’t make this easy😂 we all need to understand that a stock airplane will show 40 on the airspeed indicator. Airspeed indicators are notoriously off at high AOA. We won’t know how it compares until you fly a test using GPS.
Try reloading the video. Sounds like RUclips hadn't fully re-encoded the video after upload or some sort of glitch. Or alternatively, your rye bread might have gone bad...
That's a tough one - because I put all three on at the same time, I don't know which one had the greatest impact. I suspect the WingX extensions, are the greatest contributor; since a lot of 172s have Sportsman STOL and VGs but don't have the slow stall speeds I'm seeing. The WingX was only STC'd in Canada for the 172 when I installed it last year; the STC for the USA just happened, so we'll see if others put on the same combo and start winning STOL competitions in the 172 class.
Did a session of exactly this today with my instructor. Ouch it was bumpy. One thermal took me into the yellow arc and push the plane up by 500 feet in seconds. And I was rusty. Absolutely required to keep on these skills.
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Really cool that you extended the wings I did not know that you can do that with a certified plane that is amazing and who wouldn’t want a plane that stalls at lower speeds specifically if you’re in training, I mean that’s amazing.
That speed is insanely slow. I'm impressed. I wouldn't have guessed it would slow down that much.
Glen, glad to see you restored a great airplane. A labor of love, no doubt. I remember my father demonstrating slow flight in his 1953 Cessna 180 near Ramapo Valley Airport over the NY Thruway sometime in 1968. With just the two of us on board, half fuel and 30 degree flaps, he got slowed it to 43 mph with full control. Of course, his experience flying a PBY Catalina (which was never known for speed) for the Navy in WWII might have something to do with his skill. I think he paid less than 5 grand for it. I was a straight 180, no baggage door. It was my job to fold down the rear seat and lift the luggage into the back. Every winter we flew from NJ to Florida during school vacations, 7 hours with a fuel stop. Wish I still had that plane. Cheers!
I watch your cooking shows and decided to check out your plane RUclips site. I know absolutely nothing about planes but have really enjoyed. I watched from the very beginning going forward with the rebuild to completion. It was very rewarding to see your passion come to fruition. Plane looks great.
Practice early practice often. Incredible performance thank you for the video.
Thanks for this channel, I've enjoyed it from the beginning:)
I remember stall training in our 1946 Aeronca 7AC. A hard break and learned to keep it out of a spin quickly. Not my favourite thing to do then but later learned to enjoy the training as I got into Cessnas. Glad summer flying weather is finally with you. Enjoy! Thank you for the ride. Always a pleasure tagging along with you! Blessings.
That’s an amazing indicated airspeed, i do think though that there is probably a significant mismatch at these high angles of attack. Have you done some calibrations against ground speed in each direction to get an idea of what your calibrated airspeed should be when it reads this low? My guess is that the calibrated airspeed is in the mid 30’s for stall. Again, amazing work, just trying to understand the true performance of all the work you put in!
Interesting comment about various YT videos showing that... stuff happens. I hate "YT drama/clickbait" but it's a great opportunity that didn't exist a few decades ago to share/learn from all the messy reality. Kudos to that lone tower controller!
As I said before my 172C airspeed indicator had cease to indicate, and all I had was flap gap seals, I used it for mustering sheep
in outback Queensland Austalia, Just keep the airspeed indicator working and everything was safe!!!
Great video, Glen! Love to see the classic 172 with all the modern upgrades flying like a new one!
And you are spot on about proficiency. Looking forward to your next post!
There are advantages to flying from quiet airports.... My "practice area" is over my "farm", about 10-15NM from the Dryden airport CYHD and it's rare to have any traffic. I usually inform ATC I'll be 10-15 west from 8000' to 2000' practicing aerobatics and they let me know when (rarely) there is any traffic to be of concern. The downside is twofold, I do not have a lot of experience dealing with high traffic areas, and ATC in congested areas and controlled airspace, and I have to work hard to remember to make my clearing turns and traffic checks before doing aerobatics.
Great disclaimer about editing, I leave out the boring bits on most videos, but it can make people think you are skipping checklists and run-ups... I'll try to make mention of that more.
That's very very impressive. Thanks Glen.
Nice work. How efficient it got on stall characteristics with those mods. Beautiful work. One day I'll do the same work as you did. It's one of my dreams. Take care!
A 45 knot stall speed (stock) is already really friggin slow :D but just under 30 knots is just insane! Gotta go to BC and land on some gravel bars Glen, MVU was clearly made for that ;)
I guess 38mph on your other post. I didn't realize how much the wing extensions, cuff and VGs did to lower the stall speed. Nice for getting into short runways, and then actually being able to get out of them again!
Nice stuff.
Looked like you really greased that landing.
Blancolirio has a few vids really explaining stalls and angle of attack...
Outstanding Video Sir Cheers 👍👍😇😇🍻🍻
Went by Oshawa airport yesterday and right away told my friend, maybe we'll see the CFMVU... no luck.. but oh well! :)
Great video. I have a 56 going to do the Sportsman’s kit soon.
Hello Glen from Sydney Australia.
'Hear the stall warning, recover immediately'..... OK
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Will you do a vid on Short Field/STOL training soon? Cheers.
Is this the same Glen from Glen with friends cooking channel?!!
Yes - welcome to the airplane channel.
@@GlensHangar hahahhaha thank you! But I thought that you were is Saskatchewan for some reason...
Hey Glen! Did you ever follow up with your camera choices?
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Perfect 3 point landing! :)
This thing can get as slow as some of your overnight recipes. Wow. Do you find now that your speeds aren't relating to POH values anymore you will fly in KTS opposed to MPH now? Surely this would help with ATC, other pilots who are flying in knots and not having to do conversions on your end?
Great content. All the work in this aircraft and your training is paying huge dividends.
Fly safe Glen!!!
If it was a sound mic for music or voice I'd think the mic distortion at the beginning would go away by moving the mic another half inch away from the mouth so the capsule stops being overloaded. Sometimes your voice sounds a lot better through the headset mic than it did here at the beginning. Later it was much clearer, but still some overload distortion.
Hey Glen, I have been thinking about your over heated Go Pro on the airplane dash. After noticing that you placed a fan behind it, I thought how about adding a heatsink to the base of it too. Not sure how I would do that since I do not know the anatomy of the equipment but I'm sure that you could figure something out.
Did I miss a video? I watched your Trio AP install video with great interest and was thinking there'd be a video of you testing / introducing us to it's features in flight. But it went straight to this video. How is the Trio?
Trio is a work in progress - I mention it in a few videos after the installation, but I haven't really featured it yet.
At this point it really only gives basic functionality; holds altitude and course / track, which it does really well. I'm waiting on the final firmware update that will link the Trio with the Dynon, there have ben several Beta firmware updates and they are getting close to the certified release. I knew this going into the project, so this wasn't a surprise.
Glen, love your entire series!
Can you tell me what you used for your ceiling, it's exactly what I'm looking for for our N model?
thanks! s-
It's Ensolite Foam from SCS Interiors, and I put it on with contact cement... the next owner may curse me for that.
Thanks Glen, also installing the Sportsman Cuff in a few weeks. Thanks for all your great ideas!@@GlensHangar
Glen, apologies for being a critic, but this video is misleading around the 7 min mark. No doubt you’ve got a slow flying bird. However, the the IAS/TIAS conversion on the first page of chapter 6 in the owners manual (1959 anyway) was ignored. On a factory stock airplane, the indicated airspeed of 40 is a TIAS of 52. The stall speeds are listed in TIAS. Cessna didn’t make this easy😂 we all need to understand that a stock airplane will show 40 on the airspeed indicator. Airspeed indicators are notoriously off at high AOA. We won’t know how it compares until you fly a test using GPS.
My glass panel does the conversion and gives me Indicated as well as True air speed. The speeds I quoted were TIAS.
GreT video
Glenn you're not shaking those drinks enough uh I mean do your safety checks!!!1!
Damn, that's impressive! What are your cruise speeds like with all the STOL add-ons?
Cruise speeds didn’t change, and I use slightly less fuel.
I don't think a modern 172 displays airspeed below 40 knots. That is the point the G1000 system deems the airspeed valid.
This system comes alive around 20 knots, and it's using two separate pitot tubes
I thought I was tripping with all those finger tracers turning into claws at the beginning there. I assume that was something thrown on at post.
Try reloading the video. Sounds like RUclips hadn't fully re-encoded the video after upload or some sort of glitch. Or alternatively, your rye bread might have gone bad...
Great video as usual! If you had to pick just one wing modification which one would you pick? Sportsman, VGs, or WingX?
That's a tough one - because I put all three on at the same time, I don't know which one had the greatest impact. I suspect the WingX extensions, are the greatest contributor; since a lot of 172s have Sportsman STOL and VGs but don't have the slow stall speeds I'm seeing. The WingX was only STC'd in Canada for the 172 when I installed it last year; the STC for the USA just happened, so we'll see if others put on the same combo and start winning STOL competitions in the 172 class.
25mph! Amazing results! Thanks again for all the great content!
What is your rate of climb now? Have you tested service ceiling?
Ugh, scary when the plane goes nose up just before recovery, especially at such low speed. If it was an F-22 it would be different.
That’s the GoPro struggling to level the horizon.
That's slower than an Antonov An-2, which is said to have no stall speed...
Did a session of exactly this today with my instructor. Ouch it was bumpy. One thermal took me into the yellow arc and push the plane up by 500 feet in seconds. And I was rusty. Absolutely required to keep on these skills.