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Great video, I do think Rec Room earns enough to sustain themselves. The amount of people buying tokens and stuff, especially with all the clothing items skyrocketing (rec room inflation lol) and even then if they make new orignals they can just bring out more clothing items and weapon skins. I would love if they just made new originals. Besides that I loved the part when you said "well what do i know i'm just some kid yapping on the internet" you got jokes man keep up the great work 🔥😂Keep doing rec room commentary!
@@yakidme hey thanks man 😎👍
I can't lie, this is a horrific take. 90% of rec room's appeal is from their UGC content, from rooms to youtube videos, its a creative community, that's why it thrives. Rec Room (as far as I'm aware) have no plans to slow down on the RRO's, and recent evidence supports that from what's been said in the AMA's to the recent RRO's that have released. I've been making rooms in rec room for a few years now, and having made a few successful rooms, these UGC updates are incredible and appreciated. Without continued support for user creations, rec room will die, I just feel that the community is too lazy to create or find quality experiences, and so they point the finger at rec room in whatever way they can.
@@MagmaRecRoom eh, this video is coming from my point of view and me personally, I am not a fan of UGC rooms. Of course I’m aware that the tools are helping creators, I never said they didn’t. I don’t want rec room to become all UGC because I love the uniqueness of the RROs. Since you brought up the AMA, Gribbly made it clear that they would continue RROs, but they’ll be continuing work on the Rooms 2.0 vision, therefore they won’t have enough time or people to work on the RRO’s fully. So yeah, they are shifting their attention to UGC, that’s a fact. Yeah, they are wanting to become a cross platform UGC experience, that’s also fact. My point still stands that rec room’s “vision” is to become a “VR roblox”
I can understand your point of view for sure because as a creator you want those tools, but cmon bro, they could just have a team of people working on these tools and actually maybe FIX parts of their game that need fixing? 361 employees and they’re all working on tools? Yeah, I’m blaming rec room a little bit because this is not the rec room I, or really anyone I’ve talked to, want to see. We WOULD pay for the game if we HAD to, if they actually made the game worth paying for, like mentioned in the video.
@@gamingrecroom You have taken some facts, and then made up a load of others to support your way of thinking. They have separate teams for all these things, there is no way on earth all of their employees will be UGC focused, just because they want to focus on something and improve certain features, doesn't mean everything else gets thrown by the wayside??? That's just poor business management and rec room most certainly is NOT doing that.
I never denied they're shifting attention to UGC, but rec room is wise enough to spread their resources thin, as confirmed by recent AMAs and RROs.
Rec room does seem to be fixing the issues, or planning to rectify problems with the game, again, they will not throw aside basic quality of life or upkeep for the sake of UGC content.
I'm struggling to combat what you've said here without repeating myself, as it seems you've largely ignored/not understood what I first wrote.
But yeah, just bear in mind shift in focus does not mean complete shift in resources.
@@MagmaRecRoom kinda seems like they’re shifting attention. Haven’t been paying attention to performance issues on every single device, bugs, quality of life improvements. Took a year for a new RRO. Like I said, not trying to hate, just concerned with the way the game is going rn. Idk what facts I “made up” can you give me examples?
@@MagmaRecRoom sounds like you just want to complain about my video
@@gamingrecroom I took this as healthy debate, if you see it as something else then it may be in mutual interest to stop this conversation, though I do feel these conversations serve a great deal of purpose in terms of deciding what we as a community want from rec room, so giving the benefit of the doubt:
"361 employees and they’re all working on tools"
"they won’t have enough time or people to work on the RRO’s fully"
These are the two examples I picked out that I can find no evidence to support. There's nothing to suggest rec room is making cuts on other areas to support UGC as far as I'm aware. Even so, I feel this wouldn't make logistical sense, the teams that make RROs will be vastly different to those that work on tools, so repurposing them onto tools would make no sense as they probably wouldn't know exactly what they're doing.
"Took a year for a new RRO"
Rec room has always put out RROs every year, this has not slowed down in the wake of an increased focus on UGC, in fact, rec room has created more demanding and high quality RROs in recent years than ever before.
"performance issues on every single device"
I'm sorry but outdated hardware is outdated hardware. For devices like mobile and older headsets, rec room will never perform well. The fact that rec room even runs on quest is frankly a miracle. That being said, as a programmer I'll be the first to complain about rec room's optimisation. There's a lot of room for improvement, however credit where credit is due, it has come leaps and bounds in recent months and I heavily doubt it will be bottlenecked by UGC.
"no quality of life improvements"
These have been in absolute abundance lately, it's just that the community seems to throw them back in rec rooms face out of fear for change.
There have been UI, accessibility, customisation and full body avatar improvements this month alone, most of the ones I can name were community requested, but they've largely gone under the radar amidst the vast amounts of complaints there have been for rec room lately.
My largest disagreement however, is your perspective on UGC being a bad thing. Rec room is giving us the tools to create experiences AS GOOD AS RROs. I feel simultaneously confused and insulted that you would immediately assume that player made experiences will be worse than RROs simply because rec room didn't make them. Your closing yourself off from an amazing range of experiences by simply taking one look at the hot page and saying "RROs better".
I heavily implore you to check out experiences such as ^TheWalkingBean and ^Doors and tell me that rec room will always make better games with the same tools. These are both games made in rooms V1 with old tools, and I would pick them over showdown, rec rally and half of the other RROs in a heartbeat.
And finally, I want to once again clarify, I am not complaining, I'm just trying to challenge your viewpoint a little bit. I feel this mentality and fear of change is rife in the rec room community, and is more of a problem in my eyes than most of rec rooms shortcomings could ever be.
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@@5dollargambler 🥸
RecRoom wants to be Roblox. Honestly yeah but no... it wants to be more ugc related but that really aint a bad thing at all... I personally think that the community over reacts about EVERYTHING. Especially the state of the game... even knowing i feel like its not that bad. Everyone else acts like its the end of the damn world. i personally don't get the hate... yeah RR is different from what it used to be but i don't see that as a bad thing, change is important. and its time to get used to it.
Ok for one, I’m a content creator, I want to make things that engage people and get views, so my thumbnails and titles are a bit out there, but everything I say in my videos I stand by. Roblox is a UGC app no? Rec room wants to be UGC app no? Therefore rec room IS turning into a roblox-like app. That’s a fact. The second half of this video is just my opinion but I’ve seen the community support this side of the argument as well. Also, I think you misunderstand my videos as hate. I’m not hating on rec room at all. The point of this video is to comment and suggest what they should do instead of UGC. I LITERALLY say that it doesn’t matter if rec room listens, and they definitely won’t, but I’m just giving FEEDBACK. Gribbly also literally says in the ama that they want feedback, negative or positive. I’ve given them PLENTY of positive feedback, you can look at my videos. The point is, I don’t want to see rec room turn into this UGC platform because I feel like it kills all creativity and originality because the players are just doing all the work for Rec room and making mid cash grab rooms. My friends and I often try to check out the featured rooms (besides the ones that have been on there for years) and as we try them all out, we get super bored easily, because these games are not made with the same quality and knowledge that RRO’s are made with. I truly believe that rec room could make some really good rooms if they just focus on it fully instead of half-assing it because they’re too focused on 2.0 tools. Change is important, for sure, but not in this way. This isn’t rec room. This isn’t the game I started playing in 2019. That’s my concern. Thanks for watching.
@@gamingrecroom uh huh...
I can’t say you’re wrong or right about this
They are Rivals, Roblox has UGC Rec Room has Rec Room plus
People can make rooms in Roblox & Rec Room
I’m not to sure about saying Rec Room wants to be Roblox
Let me just say this
Roblox is for Younger Audiences & Rec Room is for mature audiences
@@SupperSanic hey man it’s your opinion but like I really can’t agree with that last statement. Kids have been overrunning rec room for years
@@gamingrecroom But in Roblox there is a game called Mic up and little kids mostly are in that
Due to giving RR 13+ Rating more Teenagers and Adults should be on
& Roblox has a E rating,
@@SupperSanic yeah more adults and teenagers SHOULD be on rec room, but they aren’t. No kid ever listens to the ratings, especially when it’s a free game. I would also argue that rec room has a whole 17+ section of games, therefore it’s more teen/adult oriented
Sorry I'm late! Also keep up this good work because if you reach 5000 subs you will have a support button on your recroom profile!
Ah yes.. youtube believes this is a roblox video
@@QuietAlpaca sick, probably helps the algorithm ngl
@@gamingrecroomI think Quiet Alpaca is ur fan #1 cuz in every video he is the first to like and to comment and he is always commenting ur videos😅
@@Carl55978 yeah probably something like that
its very different
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I agree with about half of this video. I do like UGC and think it can lead to a good future IF people make good rooms.. but they dont.. personally i think RRS is a good thing but it kinda ruins that original feeling of the makerpen. Most rooms ive played made with RRS look good! But just is not fun or is highly unpolished and has poor performance..
ive been playing the game since 2017 and ive always believed the most important thing is performance, because if the game doesnt run well it wont be fun no matter what you play. I think they're releasing RRO's at a great rate! But when they make games with the same tools we have they just seem to be low performance and buggy rather than fun and exciting. MLM runs like crap and is an unoriginal concept, MITM runs even worse and is also an unoriginal concept. I do want UGC but when RRO's are genuinely worse the UGC rooms made without RRS its.. rather embarrassing as a company.
I want UGC to be good! But i think as a company is focusing on UGC really sustainable when the game runs WORSE than high quality games like half life alyx, boneworks/lab, blade and sorcery, etc. Ive seen dozens if not more! Players quit the game just because the game is either way too buggy or feels awful to play since the game runs bad. They say they listen to the community and yet.. a minority of players are asking "Hey can you make RRS better?" The vast majority of players are asking for weeklies, RRO's, bug fixes, and performance improvement. And yet they seemingly ignore the requests and feedback and continue to do what THEY think is best and not what the COMMUNITY that makes their game profitable in the first place thinks is best.
Ill continue to support the game until it dies but they make it really hard when playing the game feels like a chore.
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@@TrippleTsRat :0
It's just roblox on vr since actual roblox on vr sucks