Hello everyone, at the intersolar there was also Tenka with panels of 29% efficiency. The highest commercial panels in the world. Have a great day. Arie the Dutchman.
SHARE your thoughts below! Will a 10 KW solar system soon just consist of 10 panels? (1000W panels :D ) Thank you for all the support and comments guys! :) ps. Forgive my voice, I just finished a cold after my trip from Dallas to Poland to then Munich in Germany. :)
Watt per square foot , should be the value to make the numbers levelled out. A single 4x3 ft panel making 300 is same as a single 2x6 ft panel making 600
The only thing that matters is $/W, especially in Texas where [roof] space is virtually unlimited. Most of these numbers are bragging rights but they don't really have intrinsic benefit to the end user. Buy the cheapest per watt panel from a reputable manufacturer with decent warranty and you should be fine. Everything else is just marketing.
I scored big on talesun 400w bi-facial panels in febuaray 2024 just before the 25% tarrit was added. signature solar had a sale for 25cents a watt on these panels, I bought 2 pallets or 72 panels. Hopefully I can design a portable ground mount others can follow. Solar is always custom design, I'd love to change that and see a production portable frame ground mount on wheels.
Love the idea of a portable frame design that you can slide the panels into and sort of have it all just work. Plug and play with that be awesome. Good luck to you.
@@scsiking The value is from production made frame that allows the plug and play to happen. No permitting because its portable. Imagine setting a rack up at 30-45 degrees due south and having the same output on your property as the neighbors. That promise is impossible in custom solar. Remember the quality of life we live today is from manufacturing, not custom!
@@user-dd2jg6kv8y interesting for sure. I don't know if you've ever built a computer but the parts are plug and play and made to work together. The major hurdle I see for myself is getting on a roof and drilling down and putting racks up and fitting everything together. It would take practice and lots of mistake learning. If I got a rack that allowed me to slip the panels in and the connection wires were already set up for either micro-inversion or DC string what have you. It just seems like installation and maintenance would be a lot simpler for the end user. That's all I was thinking about when I said I liked where the original post person was going with this. I would love for a major manufacturer to standardize something like the PC manufacturing did at a certain point after IBM put out the first PC. Imagine what it was like before then. Thanks for sharing. Let's keep the conversation going.
What a fun event! Would enjoy to nerd out to solar for a few days and pick people's brains. Glad you got to go and can't wait to catch up on the future content!
Thanks for your update on the solar world and batteries. I just saw where they have a 830 kWh battery now for vehicles. Imagine what this could do for off grid and whole house operation!!
Cool video and informative and would like to see more. Could tell you were going through the time change and flight lag stuff. Will be looking forward for the next video from the convention. 😊😊
Crazy big boy panels when space is not an issue. I would like to see things for residential setups where space is most likely an issue and need a lot of power in a small space footprint
The problem is the panels just keep getting larger and larger. While high wattage panels are fine simply making them bigger instead of make advancements to make more power in smaller spaces, that's what solar companies/researchers should be concentrating on right now, I'd think. But I'm just a DIY'er, so maybe they are already. But those 700w panels you showed look friggin' HUGE!
Agree for sure. Some of those panels are almost impossible to carry up to the roof and install ....:D Maybe not impossible but definitely much harder to install and carry.
Some amazing products there Martyna, you're lucky to be there and discover the new tech. Massive panels, but if you're a sole installer they're just physically too large now to handle by yourself, my 500W Trina panels were really too big for me (but I managed with a bit of engineering) at nearly 40kg these new units will need two people. Love your videos !!! 🤠😎👋
Very nice, lots of innovation, imagine we get 1000 watts panels in the near future with much higher efficiency. More competitions in battery is great. Imagine if LFP pricing drop by another 50%, there will be very little reason not to go renewables for people like us in California with base rate in 40 cents/kwh and peak in 80 cents range.
Another shading test comparing SMA String inverter VS. SMA String inverter + Tigo optimizers would be interesting. SMA says that power optimizers are unnecessary with their new shade fix technology.
Tghey are for commercial use in Europe. Some in USA as well. Definitly keep an eye on manufacturers like Trina, Jinko, JA solar, QCells, they make those big panels.
Along with Max watts and efficiency, there should be a third number for watts per sq ft or meter. That would be more valuable. Interesting that QCells is moving forward with battery storage. Did you see anything like this with REC?
Oh yes! I should have done that for sure! That would be a very helpful measure. I have had a long convo with REC and Meyer Burger, I need to find time to edit and post those videos. LOts of good conversations, but also EU is definitely suffering from extremely low cost asian panels and its hurting the premium brands, hence Meyer Burger closed down offices in Germany...; / I kinda want to make a video to talk about all this, but worried about backlash from people.
Hello @martyna could you kindly cover a topic about Over - Paneling or what I believe the industry calls as intentionally induced solar clipping? I believe this is especially helpful in clouded seasons and also to have a higher overall production right from early morning till late sun light hours. Keep up the good work and do continue sharing your insights. Cheers from India
Great suggestion! THank you for bringing this up. In USA market there is a ton of uneducated installers who probably wont even know what oversizing is in this sense. But It would be a great idea to make a video about it, and teach both installers and homeowners the benefits of that.
looking at 33 390w meyer burger panels but would much prefer avoiding glitches in the arizona location....so prefer german production...ant thoughts on distributors for the german production???
😁😁😁 Also, i forgot to ask, did you win the 'Solar Conference best n most colourful outfit award'?....and omg u and the team def deserved to be pampered after 27k steps in a day.....honestly the show looked almost toooo big, how they expect people to see everything, crazy big.
Hi Martyna, hopefully I can make it to the 2026 Intersolar Europe...but only there for 2 days since I have to be in Friedrichshafen on that Friday. I do have a couple of questions, with the US increasing tariffs on solar energy and ESS products from China will there be a impact (if any) on prices in the US? Also with the IBC and IFC revisions to the Standards on solar systems and ESS, and the anticipated revisions to the NFPA and NEC Standards (due to Global Harmonization) do you foresee any beneficial or potentially negative impacts in the US? Thanks
@@solartimeusa I'm keen to know more than a technical comparison if possible - that I can get from a spec sheet. So, things like: what insight you might have into the timing and strategy for rollout by CertainTeed of their licensed SunStyle roofing system, for example. Will it be fully replacing Solstice PV shingles, or complementing them? How are they doing with training installers, ramping up production, setting up logistics? Is it gaining traction with prospective buyers and salespeople? If you saw them, I would also be interested in comparisons to some of the other credible international roof-integrated offerings that might make their way across the ocean in greater volumes. Firms like Roofit,solar out of Estonia (which has a Canadian distributor as of last year) and GBSol out of the U.K. (which has partial distribution into North America IIRC), to name a few. Companies with a track record and who have already reached some level of volume.
Making a bigger panel with greater surface area and then claiming it's 700+ is cheating and doesn't count. It is very misleading. I could put two regular panels instead and get 800W. I want to see 700 W on the normal regular sized panels.
😅😅😅 yup you can see right! We did close to 27,000 steps that day. Those shoes are pretty rough haha but we stayed in a thermal spa hotel closer to the mountains and it was always a good relaxing evening at the end with jacuzzis and saunas!
@@solartimeusa😁😁😁 Also, i forgot to ask, did you win the 'Solar Conference best n most colourful outfit award'?....and omg u and the team def deserved to be pampered after 27k steps in a day.....honestly the show looked almost toooo big, how they expect people to see everything, crazy big.
Hello everyone, at the intersolar there was also Tenka with panels of 29% efficiency. The highest commercial panels in the world. Have a great day. Arie the Dutchman.
SHARE your thoughts below! Will a 10 KW solar system soon just consist of 10 panels? (1000W panels :D )
Thank you for all the support and comments guys! :)
ps. Forgive my voice, I just finished a cold after my trip from Dallas to Poland to then Munich in Germany. :)
1000 watt would have to be a huge panel like 10ft tall by 5ft wide. LOL
@solartimeusa probably after 1k watt panels aren't too big..
Watt per square foot , should be the value to make the numbers levelled out.
A single 4x3 ft panel making 300
is same as a single 2x6 ft panel making 600
The only thing that matters is $/W, especially in Texas where [roof] space is virtually unlimited. Most of these numbers are bragging rights but they don't really have intrinsic benefit to the end user. Buy the cheapest per watt panel from a reputable manufacturer with decent warranty and you should be fine. Everything else is just marketing.
Very valid point! The bottom line is what matters, as long as the manufacturer is a solid brand. :)
I scored big on talesun 400w bi-facial panels in febuaray 2024 just before the 25% tarrit was added.
signature solar had a sale for 25cents a watt on these panels, I bought 2 pallets or 72 panels.
Hopefully I can design a portable ground mount others can follow.
Solar is always custom design, I'd love to change that and see a production portable frame ground mount on wheels.
Love the idea of a portable frame design that you can slide the panels into and sort of have it all just work. Plug and play with that be awesome. Good luck to you.
@@scsiking The value is from production made frame that allows the plug and play to happen.
No permitting because its portable. Imagine setting a rack up at 30-45 degrees due south and having the same output on your property as the neighbors.
That promise is impossible in custom solar. Remember the quality of life we live today is from manufacturing, not custom!
Thank you and yes really cool idea!
@@user-dd2jg6kv8y interesting for sure. I don't know if you've ever built a computer but the parts are plug and play and made to work together. The major hurdle I see for myself is getting on a roof and drilling down and putting racks up and fitting everything together. It would take practice and lots of mistake learning. If I got a rack that allowed me to slip the panels in and the connection wires were already set up for either micro-inversion or DC string what have you. It just seems like installation and maintenance would be a lot simpler for the end user. That's all I was thinking about when I said I liked where the original post person was going with this. I would love for a major manufacturer to standardize something like the PC manufacturing did at a certain point after IBM put out the first PC. Imagine what it was like before then. Thanks for sharing. Let's keep the conversation going.
Thank you for sharing with us! This is so eye opening! wow every manufacture making now batteries!!
What a fun event! Would enjoy to nerd out to solar for a few days and pick people's brains. Glad you got to go and can't wait to catch up on the future content!
YES for sure! I just wish the show was longer and not just a few days!!!
Love it. Thanks for your efforts. I love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work. Have fun.
Thank you! I appreciate you leaving the comment so much!
Thanks for your update on the solar world and batteries. I just saw where they have a 830 kWh battery now for vehicles. Imagine what this could do for off grid and whole house operation!!
That would be cool!!! I cannot wait for all those to be implemented and residential storage systems 🙌
Thank you for sharing with us! Exciting stuff. Pretty sure my pallet is a rebranded HJT 132cell bifacial unit you showed.
That is awesome! Thanks for sharing and leaving a comment!
No, @solartimeusa , thank you!! BTW, we are neighbors, you should use some of my 715w panels for testing!
Cool video and informative and would like to see more. Could tell you were going through the time change and flight lag stuff. Will be looking forward for the next video from the convention. 😊😊
Thanks, will do! And you are so right! I had the jet lag flu haha. Change of climate and the time change was not easy! 😅
Crazy big boy panels when space is not an issue. I would like to see things for residential setups where space is most likely an issue and need a lot of power in a small space footprint
Thank you for keeping us upto date with new products
My pleasure 😊! Thank you for leaving a comment!
The problem is the panels just keep getting larger and larger. While high wattage panels are fine simply making them bigger instead of make advancements to make more power in smaller spaces, that's what solar companies/researchers should be concentrating on right now, I'd think. But I'm just a DIY'er, so maybe they are already. But those 700w panels you showed look friggin' HUGE!
Agree for sure. Some of those panels are almost impossible to carry up to the roof and install ....:D Maybe not impossible but definitely much harder to install and carry.
Looking great.
THANK YOU!
Some amazing products there Martyna, you're lucky to be there and discover the new tech. Massive panels, but if you're a sole installer they're just physically too large now to handle by yourself, my 500W Trina panels were really too big for me (but I managed with a bit of engineering) at nearly 40kg these new units will need two people. Love your videos !!! 🤠😎👋
large panel huge wattage have a great trip i loved when you said ya'll im from ky thats how i talk
haha! yes exactly, bigger wattage bigger panel, efficiency is pretty good. and yes i am getting that southern way of saying "you all" :D Greetings!
Thanks for taking us along !
Thank you for leaving the comment! :)
Thanks Martyna!
Thanks!!!
Sounds like the show should be 2x longer
If not 3x for sure! :D
Very nice, lots of innovation, imagine we get 1000 watts panels in the near future with much higher efficiency. More competitions in battery is great. Imagine if LFP pricing drop by another 50%, there will be very little reason not to go renewables for people like us in California with base rate in 40 cents/kwh and peak in 80 cents range.
yes yes yes! I am very excited about those improvements as well!
A video on the most dense panels (most watts in the least space) would also be interesting to see.
Huge... Thanks for the tour!
THANK YOU for being cool and leaving a comment, it always helps my channel so much.
when you stand infront of the panels, it makes them look huge 😝
😅😅😅
Excellent as usual!
Regards mg.
Did you see any solar windows? Or semi transparent panels?
Lots of new solar tiles, and even some flexible solar panels that act as awnings. I will be sharing very soon!
Bardzo ciekawa relacja z targow
Będzie trochę więcej ujęć!
Poczatek musialem trzy razy powtórzyć
😅😅😅
Another shading test comparing SMA String inverter VS. SMA String inverter + Tigo optimizers would be interesting.
SMA says that power optimizers are unnecessary with their new shade fix technology.
Thank you for sharing 😉
Are these 700watt+ Panels available now? If not, when do you think these panels will be readily available?
Tghey are for commercial use in Europe. Some in USA as well. Definitly keep an eye on manufacturers like Trina, Jinko, JA solar, QCells, they make those big panels.
Along with Max watts and efficiency, there should be a third number for watts per sq ft or meter. That would be more valuable. Interesting that QCells is moving forward with battery storage. Did you see anything like this with REC?
Oh yes! I should have done that for sure! That would be a very helpful measure.
I have had a long convo with REC and Meyer Burger, I need to find time to edit and post those videos. LOts of good conversations, but also EU is definitely suffering from extremely low cost asian panels and its hurting the premium brands, hence Meyer Burger closed down offices in Germany...; / I kinda want to make a video to talk about all this, but worried about backlash from people.
Hello @martyna could you kindly cover a topic about Over - Paneling or what I believe the industry calls as intentionally induced solar clipping?
I believe this is especially helpful in clouded seasons and also to have a higher overall production right from early morning till late sun light hours.
Keep up the good work and do continue sharing your insights.
Cheers from India
Great suggestion! THank you for bringing this up. In USA market there is a ton of uneducated installers who probably wont even know what oversizing is in this sense. But It would be a great idea to make a video about it, and teach both installers and homeowners the benefits of that.
looking at 33 390w meyer burger panels but would much prefer avoiding glitches in the arizona location....so prefer german production...ant thoughts on distributors for the german production???
😁😁😁 Also, i forgot to ask, did you win the 'Solar Conference best n most colourful outfit award'?....and omg u and the team def deserved to be pampered after 27k steps in a day.....honestly the show looked almost toooo big, how they expect people to see everything, crazy big.
hahahaha i love that! You know those shows have 95% of men wearing suits so I try to wear a pink dress every time! And I agree it was way too big!!!
Do you know what is the more efficient per area? The smaller area the highest watts the better.
go girl :), did you see any aiko panels ??, i have discovered there 620w panels here in the UK with +22% efficency for £100, wow what a deal :) :)
So many people mention them! I have seen them yes! very well priced panel!
Hi Martyna, hopefully I can make it to the 2026 Intersolar Europe...but only there for 2 days since I have to be in Friedrichshafen on that Friday. I do have a couple of questions, with the US increasing tariffs on solar energy and ESS products from China will there be a impact (if any) on prices in the US? Also with the IBC and IFC revisions to the Standards on solar systems and ESS, and the anticipated revisions to the NFPA and NEC Standards (due to Global Harmonization) do you foresee any beneficial or potentially negative impacts in the US? Thanks
Could you review Aiko solar panels.
I will do my best to do a review on them. I have had a few people ask about those as well! :)
Could you review gaf vs certainteed vs tesla solar offerings?
YES! I am definitely in need to make that video! Please stay tuned!
@@solartimeusa I'm keen to know more than a technical comparison if possible - that I can get from a spec sheet. So, things like: what insight you might have into the timing and strategy for rollout by CertainTeed of their licensed SunStyle roofing system, for example. Will it be fully replacing Solstice PV shingles, or complementing them? How are they doing with training installers, ramping up production, setting up logistics? Is it gaining traction with prospective buyers and salespeople?
If you saw them, I would also be interested in comparisons to some of the other credible international roof-integrated offerings that might make their way across the ocean in greater volumes. Firms like Roofit,solar out of Estonia (which has a Canadian distributor as of last year) and GBSol out of the U.K. (which has partial distribution into North America IIRC), to name a few. Companies with a track record and who have already reached some level of volume.
Making a bigger panel with greater surface area and then claiming it's 700+ is cheating and doesn't count. It is very misleading. I could put two regular panels instead and get 800W. I want to see 700 W on the normal regular sized panels.
Thanks for the video Martyna. I'm looking for storage options so I can't wait for your next video. Anything but Tesla. Never support Tesla.
Gosh, I am so excited because I am preparing a lot of battery options comparisons to Tesla so people can actually have some more choices!
😁😁How did the feet n legs hold up?....by the end of vid u did seem to be waddling alittle 😣
😅😅😅 yup you can see right! We did close to 27,000 steps that day. Those shoes are pretty rough haha but we stayed in a thermal spa hotel closer to the mountains and it was always a good relaxing evening at the end with jacuzzis and saunas!
@@solartimeusa😁😁😁 Also, i forgot to ask, did you win the 'Solar Conference best n most colourful outfit award'?....and omg u and the team def deserved to be pampered after 27k steps in a day.....honestly the show looked almost toooo big, how they expect people to see everything, crazy big.
If it's a Chinese company I'd take those numbers with a grain of salt. Unless they're independently verified it doesn't mean anything.