It shouldn't work that way, if it did it would have been worded like Earthquake: Deal 5 damage to all minions, *then* deal 2 damage to all minions. Blizzard says: Deal 2 damage to all enemy minions *and* Freeze them, so they should happen simultaneously. Coming from a Yugioh Judge, the different wordings and the fact that security rover is interrupting Blizzard in the middle of it's effect, is very odd. Not an expert on Hearthstone wording and interactions though, so there may be a precedent for similar interactions already established, like Andres stated.
blizzard freezes after the end of the damage it always worked like that with eggs and impmaster and dragon egg and everything . keep in mind that this card was designed 2011 and that changing it now is just nerfing a card after 8 years of it never being op
@A Fridge Nobody said anything about nerfing it though, a simple change from *and* to *then* would make the interactions consistent with similar cards. Just a small oversight on their part.
Anyone know what I could replace Barista with? I don't have the dust. Edit: I was barely able to craft it but rip my collection of shitty cards that I'll never use. Edit 2: after playing with it a bit I have to say that sometimes it's better than shudderwock. If you don't have any draw this is a great way to add more cards to your hand without removing stuff from the board. 8/10
Witchwood Imp, Acidic Swamp Ooze, or another Bigslosher or Brewmaster depending on what kind of matchups you find yourself in. Witchwood is pretty slow but isn't bad when you're not behind and need to draw + decent mutate target.
@@hjsvekkt7428 I don't think it is though, Barista requires you to already have a board state whereas Shudder can fill your board and hand quite easily.
@@hjsvekkt7428 shudder has saved me many games, especially after playing giggling inventor. Floods the board with taunt/divine shield minions and heals for 6 if you have played both lifedrinkers
Really? I find Druid to be an easy matchup, assuming they didn't open with the nuts and get the coin. I've also been testing all the Summon 2 minion Battlecrys with double Bloodlust and Earthquake, with Storm Chaser. Can end games quickly, like Token Druid last format, but also has the constant advantage from Quest power for late game. Also, Earthshock should be run at 2, very good against priest and any magnetics.
Shudder is way more important. You can replace barista with vulpera, plague of murlocs, earthshock, or hungry crap, depending on what you face on ladder the most.
I'd make Swamp Queen Hagatha over both, TBH. Then Shudder, Barista 3rd. Hag is crazy advantage, Shudder is better, but can seriously backfire, like Zuijin and that 10 drop mage spell.
@@trunkskoolkid Shudder never backfires, it can just be less productive. But it is always useful, in any matchup, as you will always have a full hand afterwards and you gained life in most of the cases, because you probably played at least 1 life drinker first. Hagata is not worth adding at all, imo. It is only really useful against warrior and even in that matchup matter other things more, such as huge burst dmg which is provided through lackeys, life drinker, the wesp and batista to copy them.
@Timo excuse me, *never* backfires? He loves to kobold lackey friendly targets, Wasp's and Explorer's crys is usually dead off him, bouncing things back to hand also *can* hurt you and hand *can* get clogged/overdraw. So he can backfire on you/not get the result you want, though he is an excellent card. In terms of advantage, I'd rather get 2 5/5s with 4 spells for free then leave game up to chance, if I only had dust for one. Hag is quicker to play (only need 2 free spots in hand) and can get you out of situations Shudder can't. Where as Shudder just does the same thing you've been doing, but randomly. Also, I don't see when you wouldn't want to play Hag. Sure, it's a slow card and doesn't affect board the same turn, but it can win otherwise unwinnable games. And 2 turns earlier than Shudder.
I mean, what do you define as a 'F2P' deck? Because I'm a F2Per and my highlander hunter deck is pretty squared away. I think the only card I'm missing from the meta deck is Zul'Jin. I would really like a Zul'Jin, btw. It just feels like a mistake buying one with dust when it's 'soon to come' on the obsolescence chopping block.
True, also, any super aggressive deck usually does well for ladder. Especially early in format. There's a few decks that require set up before they get going (Quest Shaman/Druid, Taunt Warrior, and Holywrath/murloc Pally), if you pressure them before, they'll crumple the majority of the time. Zoo and Tempo Hunter have worked well for me. Usually costs less dust too.
@@trunkskoolkid yes very true. Aggro warrior isnt expensive either. Leeroy is the only mandatory legendary. Grom is a nice finisher that i play but most of the time people lose or you lose before you can combo him so its not a must. But i cant imagine any warrior players not having him. Nice goku pic btw 😄
It is kinda retarded that Shudder repeats all battlecries that were repeated from hero power. Also, 6 battlecries quest is too easy to complete, should be about 7-10 instead
"Understand the mindset of a warrior" outstanding speech
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Gaming chair playing + confused viewers
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Why did the 2/3 spawn off security rover get frozen too (but not damaged) @ 25:55
They are small indie devs give them a break. :p
Cuz secuity says "whenever it is damaged" not "after" so it happens between the damage and freeze. Imp master works the same way
It shouldn't work that way, if it did it would have been worded like Earthquake: Deal 5 damage to all minions, *then* deal 2 damage to all minions. Blizzard says: Deal 2 damage to all enemy minions *and* Freeze them, so they should happen simultaneously.
Coming from a Yugioh Judge, the different wordings and the fact that security rover is interrupting Blizzard in the middle of it's effect, is very odd. Not an expert on Hearthstone wording and interactions though, so there may be a precedent for similar interactions already established, like Andres stated.
blizzard freezes after the end of the damage it always worked like that with eggs and impmaster and dragon egg and everything . keep in mind that this card was designed 2011 and that changing it now is just nerfing a card after 8 years of it never being op
@A Fridge Nobody said anything about nerfing it though, a simple change from *and* to *then* would make the interactions consistent with similar cards. Just a small oversight on their part.
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91% winrate, grind to rank 10 to rank 3 with your deck , definitly the best version
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Anyone know what I could replace Barista with? I don't have the dust.
Edit: I was barely able to craft it but rip my collection of shitty cards that I'll never use.
Edit 2: after playing with it a bit I have to say that sometimes it's better than shudderwock. If you don't have any draw this is a great way to add more cards to your hand without removing stuff from the board. 8/10
Another back to hand card
Witchwood Imp, Acidic Swamp Ooze, or another Bigslosher or Brewmaster depending on what kind of matchups you find yourself in. Witchwood is pretty slow but isn't bad when you're not behind and need to draw + decent mutate target.
@@hjsvekkt7428 I don't think it is though, Barista requires you to already have a board state whereas Shudder can fill your board and hand quite easily.
@@hjsvekkt7428 shudder has saved me many games, especially after playing giggling inventor. Floods the board with taunt/divine shield minions and heals for 6 if you have played both lifedrinkers
00:00 that's why its called a gaming chair
Very good video thijs!
What would be your substitution for Barista Lynchen?
How do you beat quest druid with this deck? I'm using the same deck except i put vulpera instead of barista and i always get fked by druid.
yeah same here , is almost imposible win vs quest druid
Farm the AOEs
You need the MCTs for that matchup
Really? I find Druid to be an easy matchup, assuming they didn't open with the nuts and get the coin. I've also been testing all the Summon 2 minion Battlecrys with double Bloodlust and Earthquake, with Storm Chaser.
Can end games quickly, like Token Druid last format, but also has the constant advantage from Quest power for late game. Also, Earthshock should be run at 2, very good against priest and any magnetics.
I just love ur accent
What should i craft between barista and shudder
Shudder me without batista reached 5 rank
Shudder is way more important. You can replace barista with vulpera, plague of murlocs, earthshock, or hungry crap, depending on what you face on ladder the most.
I'd make Swamp Queen Hagatha over both, TBH. Then Shudder, Barista 3rd. Hag is crazy advantage, Shudder is better, but can seriously backfire, like Zuijin and that 10 drop mage spell.
@@trunkskoolkid Shudder never backfires, it can just be less productive. But it is always useful, in any matchup, as you will always have a full hand afterwards and you gained life in most of the cases, because you probably played at least 1 life drinker first.
Hagata is not worth adding at all, imo. It is only really useful against warrior and even in that matchup matter other things more, such as huge burst dmg which is provided through lackeys, life drinker, the wesp and batista to copy them.
@Timo excuse me, *never* backfires? He loves to kobold lackey friendly targets, Wasp's and Explorer's crys is usually dead off him, bouncing things back to hand also *can* hurt you and hand *can* get clogged/overdraw. So he can backfire on you/not get the result you want, though he is an excellent card.
In terms of advantage, I'd rather get 2 5/5s with 4 spells for free then leave game up to chance, if I only had dust for one. Hag is quicker to play (only need 2 free spots in hand) and can get you out of situations Shudder can't. Where as Shudder just does the same thing you've been doing, but randomly.
Also, I don't see when you wouldn't want to play Hag. Sure, it's a slow card and doesn't affect board the same turn, but it can win otherwise unwinnable games. And 2 turns earlier than Shudder.
8 legendaries in that druid deck, monkaF2P
I have a freetoplay acc with only quest druid, it cost me 3 weeks of daily quests.
Where can I find the 4 decklists
I mean, what do you define as a 'F2P' deck? Because I'm a F2Per and my highlander hunter deck is pretty squared away. I think the only card I'm missing from the meta deck is Zul'Jin.
I would really like a Zul'Jin, btw. It just feels like a mistake buying one with dust when it's 'soon to come' on the obsolescence chopping block.
that rubbish warrior couldn't even calculate how to use super collider properly, so he conceded
Remember when giggling only cost 5 mana?
Hella value, Shaman would be even more scary. 7 Mana for 6/9 worth of stats and 4 Divine shields/Taunt.
Me: What will Thijs do?
So many people are playing quest shaman. If u wanna power level your rank like i did, play aggro warrior. It annihilates quest shaman
True, also, any super aggressive deck usually does well for ladder. Especially early in format. There's a few decks that require set up before they get going (Quest Shaman/Druid, Taunt Warrior, and Holywrath/murloc Pally), if you pressure them before, they'll crumple the majority of the time. Zoo and Tempo Hunter have worked well for me. Usually costs less dust too.
@@trunkskoolkid yes very true. Aggro warrior isnt expensive either. Leeroy is the only mandatory legendary. Grom is a nice finisher that i play but most of the time people lose or you lose before you can combo him so its not a must. But i cant imagine any warrior players not having him. Nice goku pic btw 😄
I keep losing at rank 8 with quest shaman am I playing it wrongly or..?
yes
Yeah, it's undoubtely the strongest right now
Love your videos but getting 7 double ads in one video gonna make me unsub...
I agree I have to start using Adblock for thijs
I love your videos but you trying to make money is going to make me unsub
code deck?
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Gaming chair op
Too many advertisements.... almost impossible to watch stream now
I love how warrior casually drops an 8 mana 6/12 mech with taunt. Its so fun *not*
Go chair go!!
Empty chair meta strong.
"Must remove" yeah, couse you don´t have bl or another buff on all those discoveries, I lost several times couse I didn't have aoe :P
How does thijs play while not in his chair? 🤯
Chair is a gaming chair. Chair can play games.
I wanna know too!
how is he playing when he's not even there?
HEHEHEEH Brazil here .... very nice DECK
Brasil too
This every deck for you is 88% winrate
No, most decks are 100% for him.
And you got a like.....
20 Warriors disliked already :D
It is kinda retarded that Shudder repeats all battlecries that were repeated from hero power. Also, 6 battlecries quest is too easy to complete, should be about 7-10 instead
No code, no like 👌
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How can u copy this on ios
is it even a control deck? more like tempo to me
More like a smorc deck to me
Don’t punish your subscribers on mobile. 7 x2 adverts is going to make me unsub.
We saw at Grandmasters, this deck isnt that great thijssie
More ads plz
yeah wtf? 6 ad breaks....times must be hard
Agreed, but on the other hand it's a minor inconvenience for us, and supports him more, allowing for more content. Wish I was a Tuber 😓
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8 adds lol not watching, 3 adds sure but 8 adds go eat dirt...
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