Have you had a bad experience with a vekoma SLC?😂😂😂 B&M inverted coasters have over the shoulder restraint and at least the one i did don't have that head banging issue... Meanwhile i had a really bad headbanging experience with a early 2000 vekoma SLC
lap bars are actually significantly safer! with over the shoulder restraints, you risk head injury on just normal ride throughs, and some p serious bleeding if you have earings of some sort. lap bars dont have this problem at all. So while its easy to say oh i think id feel safer w the restraints near my head, remember that feeling safer and being safer r 2 seperate things.
Not to mention Top Thrill 2, which is currently the 2nd tallest coaster in the world and has the tallest vertical spike. That has a lap bar. Falcon's Flight will also open with lapbars, which will be around 200 ft taller than TT2.
i feel like rollercoasters should have over the top restraints because they make it more accessible i know they're safe, but those dumbies perfectly demonstrate who they're safe for, and I'd like it if more people can ride rides i think those rides should come with an accessible car with over the shoulder restraints
even with over the shoulder restraints double amputees should not go on coasters. it would still be risky and i doubt companies are willing to make restraints specifically made for amputees. to insure this dosent happen, avoid activities that may remove your legs
I can understand why people would get scared as im a massive roller coaster person and i have had a time where i collapsed in the queue for a rollercoaster due to fear (granted this was caused by a friend who none stop went on about how brand new the coaster was), but out of every single roller coaster ive rode i can say without a doubt that Icon at Blackpool and Sik at Flamingo Land were the 2 that I felt safest on, and you may think "why is he mentioning Sik and Icon" well both Sik and Icon are Mack coasters which have Lap bars and not over the head restrains Reminder: I've rode every single coaster at Flamingo Land, Blackpool Pleasure Beach, yes that's not loads but its enough to give a decent judgement about the restraints and what feels safest
I know that general public aren't as clued in as enthusiasts, but do they really think that in 2024 it would be allowed to operate them at all if it was even the tiniest bit 'unsafe'?
exactly, in this day and age everything needs to be tested dozens of times before they can even consider letting the public access it. It's like with cars, they can bring out a new model that is built exactly like the last one but still need to do all the safety tests again even if not a single thing has changed. You can't just build a coaster and let people on without proving it won't kill people first, it's the same reason why they have height and sometimes even weight restrictions, that is the range in which they proved it was safe to ride during their testing phase
In which world is an over the shoulder more comfy ? You can bang your head on these in every rough turn and get an headache. And even the over the shoulders are just pressing on your laps and no other part of your body
@@freizeitparkplohn_fanpage I went on the new nemesis ride yesterday and it has over-shoulder restraints and they are very comfy and you cant really get your head thrown around i think it depends on how smooth the ride is or if the shoulder restraints are padded also sometimes you cant move your head because of the G you experience but i see where your coming from
@@ZombieRatFlesh yeah, but nemesis has also been compleatly retracked and older coasters with over the shoulders are most of the time pretty rough. That doesnt mean that a coaster with these restraints cant be fun, I simply want to say that in my opinion a coaster with lap bars will be a more enjoyable ride 🙌🏻
I recall that accident where someone went on a ride with two artificial legs 🦵🦵 from almost the waist down and they flew out the seat. Unbelievably stupid! Think it was on the Superman ride at Six Flags which has an insane amount of ejector airtime.
I feel like hyperia of all rides sparking this argument online is incredibly stupid, the ride is supposed to imitate the feeling of flying freely, and the ride’s motto is “find your fearless”, with the lap restraint, you can move your upper body, giving the sensation of flying 230 ft in the air unsupported.
@@WilliamAfton02 doesn't mean It feels like you're flying tho. And I don't entirely agree that less restraint is better, but that's personal taste, just don't like hanging from my waist and don't feel restricted in over the shoulders, I feel quite cosy actually
@@scotttimbrell8632 it doesn’t feel like you’re flying, but for me, I feel more of a thrill because to me, shoulders are quite tight and noticeable but lap bars aren’t, at least in my experience
I went on icon at pleasure beach Blackpool and it was a lap bar it was fine but I nearly fell out of it that's why I like the shoulder ones as I didn't feel safe on it
Come on guys! The only reason there was an issue with the Smiler was due to human error. Truuuust me when I say this, these big companies do not want to see you injured! Not necessarily because they care about you, but paying for legal costs is veeeery expensive.
I thought lap bars were scary when I went to go on velocicoaster however after riding it lap bars are so much better and so safe I didn’t feel unsafe one bit
Ok, somthing i wasn’t worried about i am now. I am a larger lady, could this meen it wouldn’t. Be safe? I am blind so can’t see how the seat and restraints are and i am going go on the new ride in a week. Very excited but i am a bit worried now
Most coasters anyway with over shoulder restraints you're held in by the lap anyway, it's just the design. Go on any inverting coaster pull the restraint as far as it will go onto your legs and try and get out, you can't!
@@TommyForrest666 sorry didn't realise you had to be a nerd to listen to what the guy on the video said. How did you manage to understand the other reply here about using the wrong dummies, but not the more detailed and clear explanation in the video which says they used the wrong dummies?
It does seem like that on the surface, untill you realise that most are either clickbait or have been picked out of a long period of time. For example, Coaster College and his long running 'what really happened' series has many episodes, however when you compare it to the amount of riders on coasters per day and per year, you realise the number is incredibly low.
I was partnered with someone who was quite a bit larger than me. The seat clicked in, but I did not feel safe with the lap bar, I moved about a lot more. We also had a problem pushing it down to release at the end of the ride, so I genuinely just climbed out of the seat with the bar still down. If I could do that, and fairly easily, it's NOT safe. I hate lap bars :/
That just means that you were too small for the ride, not a problem with the lap bar. Also I think you missed the part where it said you need to follow the rules and guidelines to be safe. If you purposely try to get out of the restraint, that is not safe no matter what restraint you have. You could probably get out of shoulder restraints too if you tried hard enough.
Ooh, but sometimes lap bars aren't good if they malfunction... My family and I went to the Mount Olympus water and theme park in Wisconsin and I think it was the pegasus roller coaster if I'm correct. My mom and little brother sat next to each other. My brother (quite the small boy) properly put his seatbelt and lap bar down correctly. But it came loose for a millisecond and wasn't as secure as before. My brother tried telling the ride operator, but they started the ride before he could. My mom had to physically hold him down so he wouldn't fly out of the coaster, which was quite hard considering that ride has tons of painful sharp turns. I'm just glad there were no loops.
If you're worried about falling out, look at where the bar is. It is in a central point that is impossible to escape because of your femurs. Your femurs are more durable than most metals, and they can certainly keep you secure.
On the bright side, if people are afraid of lap bars, hyperia will have a smaller queue!
YES
Doubt it will be a short queue tho 😂
@TSL_jack Never said small, just smaller.
@@Stumpymattycat yeah
Just tell everybody it is unsafe 😂
Lap bars are more fun to use because you dont slam your head into the over the shoulder restraints
Have you had a bad experience with a vekoma SLC?😂😂😂
B&M inverted coasters have over the shoulder restraint and at least the one i did don't have that head banging issue...
Meanwhile i had a really bad headbanging experience with a early 2000 vekoma SLC
plus you dont feel yourself sliding out the seat when you go upside down, the amount of times my butt has lifted when it's just shoulder restraints
Comments like "just a lap bar?? Is that even safe??" always gets me 😂
as if they would be allowed to open a ride with unsafe restraints
@@Evibblesnow that would be a ride…
@@EvibblesFear doesn't always work like tha, you can't logic your way out of it
lap bars are actually significantly safer! with over the shoulder restraints, you risk head injury on just normal ride throughs, and some p serious bleeding if you have earings of some sort. lap bars dont have this problem at all. So while its easy to say oh i think id feel safer w the restraints near my head, remember that feeling safer and being safer r 2 seperate things.
They're so much more comfortable too. No bashing your head between the restraints.
lap bars are elite I can actually have my hands up
VelociCoaster amazing lap bar coaster. That ride truly makes you feel like your going die, the first time you ride it 💀
Never had I felt so alive
Not to mention Top Thrill 2, which is currently the 2nd tallest coaster in the world and has the tallest vertical spike. That has a lap bar. Falcon's Flight will also open with lapbars, which will be around 200 ft taller than TT2.
Its definately safe but also definately scarier
Agree
It's apart of the thrill
Let it fool people, shorter queues
lap bars are so much more comfortable
I actually prefer lap bars over the overhead restraints.
I wish these style of lap bars would be the default restraint type
i feel like rollercoasters should have over the top restraints because they make it more accessible
i know they're safe, but those dumbies perfectly demonstrate who they're safe for, and I'd like it if more people can ride rides
i think those rides should come with an accessible car with over the shoulder restraints
even with over the shoulder restraints double amputees should not go on coasters. it would still be risky and i doubt companies are willing to make restraints specifically made for amputees. to insure this dosent happen, avoid activities that may remove your legs
@@terg8472"Avoid activities that remove your legs" I bet this would be a very ironic statement to the people involved in the smiler incident
People who have no legs can't go on roller coasters with shoulder restraints anyway, so lapbars don't make it so less people can go on the coaster
I can understand why people would get scared as im a massive roller coaster person and i have had a time where i collapsed in the queue for a rollercoaster due to fear (granted this was caused by a friend who none stop went on about how brand new the coaster was), but out of every single roller coaster ive rode i can say without a doubt that Icon at Blackpool and Sik at Flamingo Land were the 2 that I felt safest on, and you may think "why is he mentioning Sik and Icon" well both Sik and Icon are Mack coasters which have Lap bars and not over the head restrains
Reminder: I've rode every single coaster at Flamingo Land, Blackpool Pleasure Beach, yes that's not loads but its enough to give a decent judgement about the restraints and what feels safest
Schwarzkopf Loopers in the 1970s had even smaller lap bars and they were safe.
I know that general public aren't as clued in as enthusiasts, but do they really think that in 2024 it would be allowed to operate them at all if it was even the tiniest bit 'unsafe'?
exactly, in this day and age everything needs to be tested dozens of times before they can even consider letting the public access it. It's like with cars, they can bring out a new model that is built exactly like the last one but still need to do all the safety tests again even if not a single thing has changed. You can't just build a coaster and let people on without proving it won't kill people first, it's the same reason why they have height and sometimes even weight restrictions, that is the range in which they proved it was safe to ride during their testing phase
A handful of failed fairground rides post covid has renewed fear amongst the public... That and how easy it is to find horror ride footage.
Sik in the start is such a good ride
I bet the same people scared of lap bars are scared of flights
Yeah I bet you arnt scared of anything 😂
I'm a ride op at another park, and a lap bar is my restraint of choice. Perfectly safe!!!
As long as you have legs and arms you will be fine with a lap bar.
Cant wait for hyperia !
Lapbars are for people that have legs below their knees. Water ballast is only used for weight. Not for restraint testing.
i prefer shoulder ones since its more comfy and i feel like i wont fall out even if i know i wont
In which world is an over the shoulder more comfy ? You can bang your head on these in every rough turn and get an headache. And even the over the shoulders are just pressing on your laps and no other part of your body
@@freizeitparkplohn_fanpage I went on the new nemesis ride yesterday and it has over-shoulder restraints and they are very comfy and you cant really get your head thrown around i think it depends on how smooth the ride is or if the shoulder restraints are padded also sometimes you cant move your head because of the G you experience but i see where your coming from
@@ZombieRatFlesh yeah, but nemesis has also been compleatly retracked and older coasters with over the shoulders are most of the time pretty rough. That doesnt mean that a coaster with these restraints cant be fun, I simply want to say that in my opinion a coaster with lap bars will be a more enjoyable ride 🙌🏻
The sik video is so funny
aha yes , it reminds me of planet coaster
I recall that accident where someone went on a ride with two artificial legs 🦵🦵 from almost the waist down and they flew out the seat.
Unbelievably stupid!
Think it was on the Superman ride at Six Flags which has an insane amount of ejector airtime.
this is not a real story. lap bars pin you down at the waist, so even if someone did have two artificial legs, theyd be fine.
I feel like hyperia of all rides sparking this argument online is incredibly stupid, the ride is supposed to imitate the feeling of flying freely, and the ride’s motto is “find your fearless”, with the lap restraint, you can move your upper body, giving the sensation of flying 230 ft in the air unsupported.
How do you imitate flying freely when you're sat in a bucket chair, attached at the waist? Literally just your torso flailing around 😂
@@scotttimbrell8632 you have more freedom than shoulder restraints
@@WilliamAfton02 doesn't mean It feels like you're flying tho. And I don't entirely agree that less restraint is better, but that's personal taste, just don't like hanging from my waist and don't feel restricted in over the shoulders, I feel quite cosy actually
@@scotttimbrell8632 it doesn’t feel like you’re flying, but for me, I feel more of a thrill because to me, shoulders are quite tight and noticeable but lap bars aren’t, at least in my experience
i rode sky hawk at cedar point which is a swing and only has lap bars it was so much more terrifying then max air
Actually please let it scare you: less people in the queue means more re-rides for me :D
Why not combine both?
Many years ago G-Force at drayton manor only had lap bars. That was frickin awesome. Especially around the first loop that went slow 😊
I mean if teddy bears can ride an RMC with just a lap bar...im guessin they are safe enough for people
that dummy video was absolutely hilarious 🤣 tho
Thank you for this video I've never been on a coaster with a lap bars and was extremely concerned about going on Hyperia
just was on the new Europapark ride Voltron, only lap bar, 7 inversions, honestly felt extremely secure and safe👌🏼
That video of Sik is so funny
I went on icon at pleasure beach Blackpool and it was a lap bar it was fine but I nearly fell out of it that's why I like the shoulder ones as I didn't feel safe on it
I don't know if Rush is still at Thorpe park but that used to have lap bars and it was thrilling and it was super safe.
Come on guys! The only reason there was an issue with the Smiler was due to human error. Truuuust me when I say this, these big companies do not want to see you injured! Not necessarily because they care about you, but paying for legal costs is veeeery expensive.
Have fun trying to convince the gp that lap bars are safe 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀btw they are very safe
Wild fire rolacoster is a good example beuse there lots of inverts and 0g parts on it
I thought lap bars were scary when I went to go on velocicoaster however after riding it lap bars are so much better and so safe I didn’t feel unsafe one bit
Thank you
Who actually thinks that they aren't safe? 😅 It's not hard to comprehend.
Every single friend of mine for some reason, except one
@@GoudLoodje who's gonna tell em. 😂 Or maybe if you do it still won't change anything that can happen.
That's not how fear works. You could understand everything about how it's safe and still be scared of it
Hydro now drenched in oakwood park would disagree
Aren’t lap bar restraints actually safer than over the shoulder by a little?
Yeah. I've only ever been injured by hard over the shoulder restraints causing head injuries. I almost lost my hearing because of those.
I don’t mean to be more I’d, but that exact particular accident already happened, which is why it will never happen again.
I've been on Sik the one in the video where they used the wrong dummies and it's safe and so much better
Ok, somthing i wasn’t worried about i am now. I am a larger lady, could this meen it wouldn’t. Be safe? I am blind so can’t see how the seat and restraints are and i am going go on the new ride in a week. Very excited but i am a bit worried now
They are way more comfortable imo
idea we convince people lap bars are not safe so hyperon will be quite
yes
Speeeeeeeeeeeeeed runing uk coaster videos PT.2 : Yes
I see the captions “lap bars are actually safe” and there is the sik clip in the background, I immediately start laughing
song name???
That's Thorpe park and I'm going there in a couple of day wish me luck lok❤
Most coasters anyway with over shoulder restraints you're held in by the lap anyway, it's just the design. Go on any inverting coaster pull the restraint as far as it will go onto your legs and try and get out, you can't!
Say Gum Bex
Goted song
I reckon an over shoulder restraint is safer, as you might fall out with just a lap bar
D...did you watch the video? Engineers make boatloads of money designing lap bars that keep you in the seat. They're safe.
What happend on sik
It literally explained what happened in this very video.....
they used over shoulder dummies instead of lap bar dummies so they fell out
@@stockjjk222 thanks
@@LauGarSifu well I’m not a nerd so I didn’t know what them words ment
@@TommyForrest666 sorry didn't realise you had to be a nerd to listen to what the guy on the video said. How did you manage to understand the other reply here about using the wrong dummies, but not the more detailed and clear explanation in the video which says they used the wrong dummies?
The problem is as the rides age... They start to skimp on maintenance cost... RUclips is loaded with stories of people dying on amusement park rides.
It does seem like that on the surface, untill you realise that most are either clickbait or have been picked out of a long period of time. For example, Coaster College and his long running 'what really happened' series has many episodes, however when you compare it to the amount of riders on coasters per day and per year, you realise the number is incredibly low.
unrelated but, OH MY GOD I USED TO LOVE THAT SONG!
This isn't good for people who are disabled
You should also not ride a coaster with over the shoulders if you are disabled
I was partnered with someone who was quite a bit larger than me. The seat clicked in, but I did not feel safe with the lap bar, I moved about a lot more.
We also had a problem pushing it down to release at the end of the ride, so I genuinely just climbed out of the seat with the bar still down.
If I could do that, and fairly easily, it's NOT safe. I hate lap bars :/
That just means that you were too small for the ride, not a problem with the lap bar.
Also I think you missed the part where it said you need to follow the rules and guidelines to be safe. If you purposely try to get out of the restraint, that is not safe no matter what restraint you have. You could probably get out of shoulder restraints too if you tried hard enough.
As long as you have legs its fine
Ooh, but sometimes lap bars aren't good if they malfunction... My family and I went to the Mount Olympus water and theme park in Wisconsin and I think it was the pegasus roller coaster if I'm correct. My mom and little brother sat next to each other. My brother (quite the small boy) properly put his seatbelt and lap bar down correctly. But it came loose for a millisecond and wasn't as secure as before. My brother tried telling the ride operator, but they started the ride before he could. My mom had to physically hold him down so he wouldn't fly out of the coaster, which was quite hard considering that ride has tons of painful sharp turns. I'm just glad there were no loops.
If you're worried about falling out, look at where the bar is. It is in a central point that is impossible to escape because of your femurs. Your femurs are more durable than most metals, and they can certainly keep you secure.
Blackpool old woodies never had restraints, one up until about 12 years ago.
One of the best rollercoasters I've ever been on, shambhala, has only a lap bar and it's also the comfiest ride I've been on.
I rid sik 6 times in one day its safe
Lap bars are better than over the shoulder restraints