I wanted to like this, but then I saw that it already has 666 likes, so I decided to leave it. I know that's the devil's favorite number, and I don't want to piss him off.
Mad respect for both of you. But it’s so funny to see you interact. Levy is so sociable and funny, Eric is so coy and quirky. “I do know of pikachu” haha
@@rendomstranger8698 alternate version: all the other pieces look like what they actually are, but the king looks like a rook, knight, or bishop at random.
I love this game mode. Is it possible to have only 1 person see the board this way, and the other one seeing it normally. You vs Hikaru with FOW or you with FOW against subscriber would be fun
Hipster moment of the day. I played fog of war well before the streamers. I noticed it right after the update and couldn't stop playing. It's a fun strategy to work through. I tend to like setups that are above all else about coordination rather than position or material/exchanges. Every move must be protected twice and simultaneously protecting two other pieces. I eventually settled on basically kings indian setups but instead of pawn storming you just slowly slowly expand kings side. That way the king is safe in his little KI fortress and isn't at terrible risk of sneak attacks or accidentally opening him up to attack by a random bishop on the long diagonal or something like that.
3:25 Levy: I don't know if that should be allowed or not Eric: A good player would keep it in mind Levy: Oh right, sorry Eric. I just like how Eric unintentionally roast people
Hi Levy, This Fog of war is tottaly insane, I don't know how you can even think of playing this game but it is great to have seen it, I find it hard enough when I can see the pieces, so Great game from both of you, it's amazing.
I am not that much of a chess player, but i like it. However I feel like this game mode is not meant for the same people that chess is, because this is an incomplete information game (as opposed to chess, which is a complete information game). That means that a computer playing this would rely on statistics rather than min-max or other algorithms where it would just play to increase its score and/or decrease the opponents. I feel like this is closer to a real-lie warfare situation.
I have invented the chess variant to rule all chess variants: ‘Fog of War Atomic Chess960.’ (The goal is to level the playing field against grandmasters)
It's interesting how, any time you can SEE your opponents king, if it's your turn, you just win right there. Because if you can see it, you can capture it, and while capturing other pieces have the risk of it being defended, the king's got no such risk.
5:10 eric pre-move, he doesnt know that levy can look that knight with that (i mean eric dont know levy put rook on that file) rook, so he think that levy need to take that black bishop then he can take back levy bishop
Strange mode, I would use my bishops to scout to gain info, mainly because I never find good situations for my bishops except sacrifice their diagonal movement would be great for scouting but the queen is the most valuable Scot and attack wise Here are my stats for the pieces for fog of war in my opinion Pawn 1 Scout, 3 Attack Knight 3 Scout 4 Attack Bishop 5 Scout 6 Attack Rook 5 Scout 6 Attack Queen 10 Scout 9 Attack King 2 Scout 3.1 Attack (This is If it was not the price you had to protect I can’t really factor that it so) (Also Scout Means how well they can show information of the board if you did not understand) (Attack is their attacking ability)
You can also castle through check because there is no check. (Though I suppose since there is no check, it's not really castling through check, but castling through what would be check.)
Levy: "Why do I keep getting white?" Ten minutes later.... Eric: "Why do I keep getting white? I've gotten white the last three games." Vid cut timeline chaos...
Maybe I'm missing something, but at 5:42 it seems preferable to attack b2 with your rook, since at the moment you know the bishop is on b2 but opponent cannot see your attacking piece (except maybe by luck).
@@GaussianEntity That's something to consider, but it does that at the cost of your own bishop so the advantage is less clear. Attacking the bishop while it's blind makes opponent choose in the face of uncertainty. If opponent has a policy of always spending a move rescuing a piece that might not be attacked, that has its own disadvantages. At least that's how it seems to me.
@@Tehom1 That's true but how do you take advantage of the gain in tempo? It's not so easy to do that here unless you know the location of other pieces.
Alexander Garden I meant I want to see it fogged but with the fog fixed in one players perspective. So there will be 3 options: fog perspective for white, fog perspective for black and no fog
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Who actually knows that Gotham has another computer screen I. The side where he sees Eric's screen and sees where r Eric's peices
🧠
who knowss
Definitely not the chat on the side smh my head
@@happyredmapleleaf Lmao
@@lbright4568 you just said “shaking my head my head”
Old Eric: oh no my queen
2020 Eric: oh no my king
Jahahahahq
ruclips.net/video/gb2q41N6Mao/видео.html Caro-Kann Defence😅
“My beautiful beautiful king.”
2021 Eric: Oh no my time!
Hikaru:KİNG SACRIFICE
"I never really got into pokemon, but I'm aware of Pikachu" lmao
I mean idk others but I like eevee
I know Pikachu, Eevee, the gen 1 starters, Quagsire, and the evolutions of all of those except Eevee's.
@@somebodylikesbacon1960 Impressive 👏👏👏
THANKS FOR THE FAT 10 GIFT SUBS
@@somebodylikesbacon1960 name them then!
Have two grand masters play this then send the PGN to Levy to guess the rating without letting him know they're playing a chess variant.
yes
Yes
yes
Yes
Yes
12:03 "Let's touch kings" is something I never thought I would hear
Couldn't stop laughing at the uncomfortable silence that came before Levy said that 😂😂😂😂
@@sebastianalarcon1204 It's Eric's awkward silent blinking that does it for me 😂
😂😂😂😂
"I feel like defending stuff is a really important strategy in this game." - IM Eric Rosen
alongside "White goes first, I think" - IM Eric Rosen
Alongside “my opponent was defending until he wasn’t defending” - IM Eric Rosen
Alongside “So we both know we have pawns.” - IM Eric Rosen
Alongside
Levy: “Where are your pieces?”
“I don’t know” -IM Eric Rosen
I wanted to like this, but then I saw that it already has 666 likes, so I decided to leave it.
I know that's the devil's favorite number, and I don't want to piss him off.
The worst thing to hear when playing against Eric is "oh no, my [piece]"
Oh no my king
9:34 lmao
Why do I hear his music playing?!
12:04 "Let's touch kings..." *jazz music stops*
gachiHYPER OK
This comment is underrated.
@@egoichitosama1970 true
Levy's smile after he said that was priceless
Kinda sus
21:10 we got the rare "uh oh my queen" signalling he has in fact blundered his queen
At this point he can blunder and the opponent is so scared of any possible traps that he doesn't take ...
@@Puschit1 Yeah if he said oh no my queen Levy has a 50/50 chance of believing it was a trap
Mad respect for both of you. But it’s so funny to see you interact. Levy is so sociable and funny, Eric is so coy and quirky.
“I do know of pikachu” haha
Eric is funny too, but in a more deadpan type of way.
Lovable guys.
RUclips Levy is sociable and funny. Twitch Levy is badass and crass. But I love him all the same
That had me dying
This feels like walking to the kitchen in the middle of the night, in a new house. Every step could be a stubbed toe..
exactly!
Welcome to the world of the visually impaired/blind.
I visited my sisters apartment once and stubbed my toe 3 times on the same doorstep
New chess variant. Fog of war imposters. Every piece that you gain vision for looks like a pawn.
That is *BLURSED*
The exception would have to be the king. Otherwise it wouldn't work very well.
@@rendomstranger8698 Nahh that's what makes it fun
@@rendomstranger8698 alternate version: all the other pieces look like what they actually are, but the king looks like a rook, knight, or bishop at random.
@@Jivvi Pawns have the feature too then
We want more Eric and Levy collabs
They're pretty much the same person. They're IMs who are rated around 2350 FIDE. They're American. They're one and the same as Levy admitted.
best of both worlds
we want levy vs rosen 3 min blitz game
@@damiester1 Levy's instructional videos are better, and Eric's games are more entertaining. But both are really great.
@@damiester1 True also both of them are the nicest chess players I've seen
"this man's got no clue where my knight is"
*takes knight*
"oh well alright then"
“Dude where are your pieces?”
“I dont know”
4:53
Legend tells Nakamura is still saying "I know exactly where your pieces are"
"So, we both know ... we have .. pawns."
26:38 People who didn't know what torpedo was: *existential crisis mode activated*
The whole reason I scrolled through the comments xD
@@ryanrydander1595 Same XDDDDDDDD
There's one around 24: when they talk about pizza places, I was shook 🤣🤣
Rosen vs. Rozman.
The War of the Roses.
Rose men
Maybe the best strategy in Fog of War chess was the friendships we made along the way...
kill me
@@exactzero nah, kill me!
@The Professional Newb what?
@The Professional Newb stop, just stop.
@SisirTheStupid What are you talking about-
11:00 imagine if Black played c5 in this position. White's d pawn would suddenly be able to see c6, even though there's nothing there.
Wow, you're right, didn't think of en passant
Ghosts in chess be like:
Eric is sweet so kind and so humble he a good guy.
“Is there a 50 move rule?”
“There probably is, but I feel like we’re pretty far from that.”
*plays move 49*
he meant the 50 move rule where if one person has just a king and pawns, after 50 moves its a draw
Or 50 moves without a capture.
Its 50 moves without a capture or pawn move.
Reason is those are the only Type of moves that permanently Change the baordstate.
I love this game mode. Is it possible to have only 1 person see the board this way, and the other one seeing it normally. You vs Hikaru with FOW or you with FOW against subscriber would be fun
Great suggestion
That would be too much of a handicap, I think.
@@madscientist3134 Yeah, that would be ridiculously unfair haha
Levy would destroy hikaru like this
"Oh no...My king"
This sacrifice requires... Common Sense
11:45 is the Fog of War Scholar's Mate :D
Chess com next tournament
Pog of War Champs
I want levy and hiraru chaturanga sub battke though
It would 100% be named Fog Champs, or i would have to stop watching chess
where were you wen club pengin die
I kinda want to see a match like this evaluated like it isn't a fog of war
Anything with Eric is always so wholesome
Hipster moment of the day. I played fog of war well before the streamers. I noticed it right after the update and couldn't stop playing. It's a fun strategy to work through. I tend to like setups that are above all else about coordination rather than position or material/exchanges. Every move must be protected twice and simultaneously protecting two other pieces. I eventually settled on basically kings indian setups but instead of pawn storming you just slowly slowly expand kings side. That way the king is safe in his little KI fortress and isn't at terrible risk of sneak attacks or accidentally opening him up to attack by a random bishop on the long diagonal or something like that.
"I have to enjoy being white while I can" - Eric Rosen 22:12
Eric sounds like such a chilled guy.
These two dudes are so humble, it's a joy to see!
3:45 "oh u took my **thing** "
I love at 3:30 how Levy had to humble down. Eric taught him to be humble the classiest way.
Gotham: Information! I know 4 of your pieces.
Gotham: Oh, I forgot...
😂😂😂
man this level of "not knowing what's going on" in chess just hit a new high
bro what if we touched kings 😳
In this mode, opponent's king can move to your radius, and if you capture it, you win
😏
3:25
Levy: I don't know if that should be allowed or not
Eric: A good player would keep it in mind
Levy: Oh right, sorry Eric.
I just like how Eric unintentionally roast people
It's so funny, they are so entertaining separately that it almost doesn't matter they have no synergie
26:36 what? Can someone explain this to me?
Ah. Google "torpedo chess"
@@ThomasBomb45 Holy hell
Hi Levy, This Fog of war is tottaly insane, I don't know how you can even think of playing this game but it is great to have seen it, I find it hard enough when I can see the pieces, so Great game from both of you, it's amazing.
"maybe that pawn is an imposter" among us chess? You both have a secret piece that's playing for the other side?
like the idea but how on earth would that work :D
@@mr.c6324 maybe one random minor piece is imposter and opponent can make it switch sides any turn?
I am not that much of a chess player, but i like it. However I feel like this game mode is not meant for the same people that chess is, because this is an incomplete information game (as opposed to chess, which is a complete information game). That means that a computer playing this would rely on statistics rather than min-max or other algorithms where it would just play to increase its score and/or decrease the opponents. I feel like this is closer to a real-lie warfare situation.
ahh I wish there was more stuff with eric and levy, they're so great together. easily my favorite team
4:47 Eric Rosen: I respect your opinion... sometimes.
LOL
I have invented the chess variant to rule all chess variants: ‘Fog of War Atomic Chess960.’ (The goal is to level the playing field against grandmasters)
"You were giving way too much information" - GM Hikaru
I found a way to trap whites queen at 26:17 sacrificing the black knight opening up the dark square bishop but first move the rook to h8
Eric:I'm not a good player
Me with my 1200 blitz rating: am i a joke to you?
Me with my 700 lichess bullet rating: I'm not even funny aren't I
tho im not 700 anymore :'( so i can't really make the joke
"I have to enjoy being white until tommorow" Eric Rosen
12:51 look chat there is IM Hans niemann
Lol, came straight to the comments after that
eris" i assume not with the queen" haha that make me laugh
" who knows,I could've started switching 2 queens "
Oh Nooo u dint. ER vs GC .. battle of the Titans. instant thumbs up~! Congratulations on 90K subs~!!
It's interesting how, any time you can SEE your opponents king, if it's your turn, you just win right there. Because if you can see it, you can capture it, and while capturing other pieces have the risk of it being defended, the king's got no such risk.
Normal chess (Eric Rosen): oh no my queen!?!
Fog of war (Eric Rosen): Oh no my king!?!
0:25 the bromance was too real for Rosen
The forbidden King sacrifice!
5:10 eric pre-move, he doesnt know that levy can look that knight with that (i mean eric dont know levy put rook on that file) rook, so he think that levy need to take that black bishop then he can take back levy bishop
I always found that the two knights out and the 2 center pawns forward 2 seems to win this a lot. It opens a lot of space.
And he sacrifices… THE KING! 13:05
24:44 why was he able to push his pawn 2 squares
It's Torpedo chess, a gamemode where all pawns can always move 2 squares
"Oh no my queen" -Old Eric
Do ya feel old yet?
26:35
Could anyone explain why this move is possible?
They're playing torpedo chess in the last segment - pawns can always move 1 or 2 spaces in torpedo
24:43 I've never seen such move. Didn't know you could do that
Edit: Guess because it's torpedo. Never heard before
"I assume with not your queen."
Duh, since you just captured his queen.
"I could've had two to start the game."
Great comeback!
Someone start a petition for a 4 player fog of war variant
how about 5d chess with multiversal timetravel AND Fog of war
When the black and white peices are in chaotic positioning it looks like a minecraft painting
Rumour has it that Gotham was named so that whenever he cried as a baby his mother would say “Gotham needs you” and his dad would have to get up
This variant gives me mad RTS vibes, like very calm StarCraft
It can get hectic if things start disappearing from your board unexpectedly
Playing fog of war makes you feel so sneaky
2:49
Eric: "Oh no, my queen"
24:45 am I tripping? How can levy move his pawn two squares here?
Torpedo
*eric logs in to gotham's chess account says now I know where your knight is*
Strange mode, I would use my bishops to scout to gain info, mainly because I never find good situations for my bishops except sacrifice their diagonal movement would be great for scouting but the queen is the most valuable Scot and attack wise
Here are my stats for the pieces for fog of war in my opinion
Pawn 1 Scout, 3 Attack
Knight 3 Scout 4 Attack
Bishop 5 Scout 6 Attack
Rook 5 Scout 6 Attack
Queen 10 Scout 9 Attack
King 2 Scout 3.1 Attack (This is If it was not the price you had to protect I can’t really factor that it so)
(Also Scout Means how well they can show information of the board if you did not understand) (Attack is their attacking ability)
26:35 How did Levy move his pawn 2 squares in that move?
it's a variant called torpedo
My fave opening trap for fog of war is E4 if D5 queen F3 if takes premove bishop c4+ say oh no my queen and checkmate
19:53 you sunk my battleship
I laughed way more than i should have
Love this video. Levy + Eric combo is amazing.
I have a question? At 24:45 how come does the pawn get to move two squares even though its on the 6th row?
I'm wondering the exact same thing
Do absolute pins work in this variant? Like, can you move the piece even if it's pinned to the king because there is no check?
You can move pieces pinned to the king.
Yeah you can move it and blunder your king
@@crisishotl1ne the phrase "blunder your king" is so cursed
I think so but getting a pin is extremely hard cuz u can't see what's beyond the suppose pinned piece.
You can also castle through check because there is no check. (Though I suppose since there is no check, it's not really castling through check, but castling through what would be check.)
Levy: "Why do I keep getting white?"
Ten minutes later....
Eric: "Why do I keep getting white? I've gotten white the last three games."
Vid cut timeline chaos...
Maybe I'm missing something, but at 5:42 it seems preferable to attack b2 with your rook, since at the moment you know the bishop is on b2 but opponent cannot see your attacking piece (except maybe by luck).
It might be preferable but most opponents would move the bishop back due to its high importance. The move played cuts off its escape.
@@GaussianEntity That's something to consider, but it does that at the cost of your own bishop so the advantage is less clear. Attacking the bishop while it's blind makes opponent choose in the face of uncertainty. If opponent has a policy of always spending a move rescuing a piece that might not be attacked, that has its own disadvantages.
At least that's how it seems to me.
@@Tehom1 That's true but how do you take advantage of the gain in tempo? It's not so easy to do that here unless you know the location of other pieces.
At 26:47 how did Levy move the pawn from e5 to e3 in one move?
Torpedo
24:45 how did levy moved that pawn 2 squares forward????😱
yeah I need to know too
@@itsameekay450 oh ok
torpedo mode
Let’s goo this is the new among us: fog of war chess
this time eric rosen did " Oh no my King "
Hope they implement showing post-game with purely 1 player’s fog perspective. Currently, it keeps switching fogs
Alt+Shift+F lets you see the whole board during analysis.
Alexander Garden I meant I want to see it fogged but with the fog fixed in one players perspective. So there will be 3 options: fog perspective for white, fog perspective for black and no fog
That was a beautiful ending with the queen sac. Eric was nice to acknowledge it.
Yo imagine Fog of War 4 player chess
fog of war 4-player anti-chess :D
12:20 gothams face be like:who farted
26:35 Pawn to E3??? How does that movie possible?? Pawn goes two squares in the middle of the board? What?
More of this game mode plz:D It's amazing.
23:43 he has a friend who is going to help him put horses on a website, but the are giant files. i think he meant foals. baby horses
26:37 can someone explain why he can move his pawn like this?
It's a variant
We can experiment. If you want to touch your king next to be my king...
Let's touch Kings.
Stole the words right out of my mouth!
24:40 How did the pawn just- *_I am Confusion_*
26:43 Now I get it
24:45 How did that F pawn moved 2 squares ahead ???? 😱
They are playing the Torpedo Chess variant.
@@jrd33 Oh i see. Thank you.
@larry johnson me as well 😁
24:47 how did that pawn move two squares
Torpedo chess