24 Horsepower RC SUPERCAR TEST RUN
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- #ARRMA Radio Controlled #Supercar, FIRST #TESTRUN Testing Dual motor mesh, stability, and 8S system.. 24 HP, Dual Castle XLX 400 Amp ESC, Twin TP4070cm 2200 Kv motors, 8S, 5 lbs of rapid discharge lithium polymer batteries, 4.5 mm military grade CFcustom 360 mm chassis, ARRMA Typhon based platform customized for extreme speed. Sorry no #supercarblondie
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Quick Build Overview
• 24 Horsepower Radio Co...
Plugging in for the first time
• 24 Horsepower RC SUPER...
Supercapacitors in addtion to LIPO's
• 24 Horsepower SUPERCA...
Hungry Supercaps!
• SUPERCAPACITOR Amp Dra...
Like or Dislike tell me why?
Track13News like, hey what was that rc in the trunk?
Chris Watson 2018 v3,ARRMA TALION
hi ,(no offense this is not a negative comment ;) ) i put no unlike but dude.. where do you have 24hp ? this is maybe wrong :) and you'r double suspension set up is a mechanical mess because the way you mount it you have a big angle force issue and this all for reach 70mhp is also a mess , BUT you do the job you surrely have fun to do it and also was existed to test and shaw it and fact is you make tons off view :) so i do not like but i'm waiting for the next run and more explaination off your calculation to have 24hp means 17kw and that not possible with only 2x 100amp draw with only 8s i pull 5500watt with 16s on 1 motor to have a 100amp draw , and there's a big difference between max power on the paper and effectiv power who is abow the half off the maxx , you can reach more speed with only 1 motor esc and 1 set 8s :) biggeste issue with 2 motors will be to find big enought motor pinion look bye kershaw designe ( i drive 12s 5692 750kv motor on 110mph in a losi r8 :) ) hop see you soon ! i subrscribed ! NICE JOB !
24hp my ass because ive ran .5hp electric rc and ran faster
green t wtf more horsepower does not just automatically equal faster...
wow that thing is slow
Needs aero. Especially a big vertical fin like an LMP1.
Ah, memories. I did similar experiments back in the day with an RC12L and Porsche 917 body. Nine cells of NiCd. I raced four cell road course, though there were six cell classes. RWD made it really hard to put down nine cells of power. When it spun, the lexan body would lift it sometimes a couple meters into the air.
This brings back all those feelings though. A long stretch of road, barely controllable power... mmmmmm yeah. The spectacular crashes...
Old school love it. Body will be here soon. Never too late to get back into speedruns
That sounded like a little rocket. That was awesome.
Wait until it really gets going, thanks for watching
"Another fine mess you've got us into Stanley!" Great video man!
Jump to 3:15 thank me later.
WhiskeyShotsV8 thanks
Tbh i don't know why I was watching this type of videos 2 years ago I never did buy or thought about buying rc cars 🤣😂😂
My Savage flux with a Castle Monster X data logged 8hp! But 24hp? Damn dude that’s insane :)
Can't wait to see it back out. I was scared for you runing without a body. flip it and scrape across the road, night night lipos. Damn things are like gold bars to me. Nice work though!
I don't even blame you for crashing. It's tough to control rc cars especially at these speeds. We take the feedback we get from real cars for granted, you don't get any of that from an rc, and they can be pretty squirrelly on top of that
Pretty wild setup!
The most impressive thing I saw the whole video was the crash. I guess the title made it sound like I was going to see something cool.
Jay 0711 yeah was my very first runs just to see if it operated. Waiting for custom body to arrive, was an update on my progress, didn’t think the video would get so many views. I will have better to show soon. Thanks for watching anyway.
DAMN!!! That looked like a great test run until the curb smack. Hope the damage wasn't too bad brother and that the packs are OK. Did the wheels spin out on throttle??? Hard to tell when it slid rightward.👍👍😨😱😲💪👊👊
Rear hub broke, front splitter, one fan. Packs and everything else just fine! Yup broke traction under throttle, then brake went to reverse oops. Very happy with test!
Track13News great to hear bro. I heard you mention those, just wasn't sure if there was hidden damage. That thing is a TANK. Glad it wasn't worse.👍👍😁
Track13News i bet u r..
WOW, so much tech... 19lbs in to the curb, thank God only at 35..! This is an incredible car, sir..! Can't wait to see this at it's best..! Good luck..!
Thank you! Probably have ready in about a month.
Looking forwards to seeing better driving and 100 plus next time...thanks for sharing.
I think I can do that
Your audio dude..
Geo Gmz yeah sorry about that
Geo Gmz that audio do
Geo Gmz Dude you're getting a dell.
Good grief that road! 😮
Was half expecting to see a white Challenger go by at some point😎
Good look with that monster great work !! **
Wounding I felt that when it crashed bro, least it didn't burst into flames like lipos can (don't ask me how I know😅)!
Stay safe and keep smiling dude....👍👌👍
Nice video and build, dont know why people are soo damn negative, keep up the good work!
Aww man! As solid (heavy) as it looks and seeing how the crashes always start with loss of traction, I’d suggest using some very sticky S2’s on your ride. I haven’t tried the softest of the soft S1’s yet, but I do have a set on standby for my next Typhon speed build. Those foams don’t seem to handle heavy weight and the inertial when over-correcting.👍👍
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Right on point brother
Hey buddy hard luck on that one... I think your toe angles and steering need adjustment.
Bit of advice though more batteries doesn't mean more speed...
I've built similar projects and trust me a 6s, or if your feeling lucky, an 8s will do!!!
Use different pinion to spur ratios.
If you want torque use lower kv motor.
E.g. 1200kv
Good for speeds upto 65-75mph without cooking
For horsepowers use larger kv
E.g. 3400kv
Good for flat out 65+mph runs
In a drag race a medium kv (2200) will always out run a high kv (4500+).
But a low kv (850) will launch faster (if it has enough traction) then both.
And a high kv makes most of its power up top, so no lugging them with silly pinion combos...
M4D_MARK_XTr3Me -Ozkil- yes, still have a lot to do, really just an operational run to see if everything worked, have tuning, ESC settings, goal is 180 MPH, so needing about 280 amps per ESC/motor has plenty of torque, will find out how much battery I can give up after pulling full throttle. Need about 1/2 mile though, airfield
Track13News try using a 21/2200kv and a 1/8-1/5 1000amp esc combo..
like a hobbywing ;)
Cheap, powerful and fast...
Got one on my rig, 40lb of custom 1/6 truck.
it pulls to 55mph/60 fairly quickly.
I'm afraid to go any faster, as it becomes a large wrecking ball capable of God knows what...
I think that's on a par with Jesus telling god what to do.....Google the man...
That thing is a beast waiting to be unleashed 🔥.good stuff man you got a new sub here
Thanks brother!
Beast mode car. But use a body because it protects the wheel areas from breakage.. :)
money but no brains
Mx Mx so true so true
Mx Mx the other way around after u done building it. Lol
Sorry searched your videos and couldn't find any speed run ones.....I searched them under 'enginerring skills' no joy though
Looks like ticking bomb. Where’s the fun in that
That's what I call a RC YARD SALE!!!
J.FINESSE FLIGHTS yeah I do my best to make a big mess! Lol 👍😂
First, I appreciate all of the work that went into this car and all of the knowledge it takes to set up the electronics. Second, how ever much this thing cost was a waste. Don't quote me on this but with a 2650kv motor, 1 4s lipo, etc, I'm sure any E-buggy could be made to go faster and it would have a million more applications. This thing just can go back and forth on a road. Last, why would you set drag break on a road car? Use the controller.
Tony Dugan this is built for one thing and one thing only, to go 180-190 MPH, this was the first operational test only, and I only intended to go 65 MPH on this outing. Drag brake is to slow this down to not have to use actual brakes as much as possible. With a speed run your are either going fast or trying to slow down.
Wow! Way to set some speed records!
Funny
I feel like every time I watch one of these videos and I see curbs I already no what's going to happen
Self fulfilling prophecy! Yes I know!
Never 24 horsepower
That thing really needs a body
Great rig dude!
Amistry20 thanks, soon very soon
DAMN SON, i wouldnt have the balls to take her off the shelf
Turn your antenna on your Futuba 4PX 90 deg to get better signal
TheMrpunisher77 I️ didn’t lose signal I️ just over throttled and broke traction in the end
@Track13News Sorry I was not saying that It would have saved your car, it was just a heads up for the radio, it is designed to be turned, check your manual, better signal strength. Look forward to the next run, and seeing what you can get it up to.
Crazy nice 👍 build
Put a body on it ( or case I don’t know how it’s called ) but do it or if you crash you will probably break the electronic !
i gues its cool, i mean to each his own, unless your just stuck on cars and 2d operation, u can get a drone to do 100+ with alot less risk, alot more freedom, and not nearly the repair bills in most cases, looks expensive tho / its cool.
Kerbs!! Watch out for kerbs!
For a supercar shits pretty slow ..looks like u have the money into just not the right execution. Take a look over at my channel
Was first run, just really a proof of concept, wasn't trying to go over 65MPH, no body, wasn't tuned properly, etc. Thanks for your input and interest.
Track13News great job with the build tho ... Def looks great . body will help a whole lot.
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good job! 24 hp micro wheel and big crash!
Do what I can, :)
Because someone that has the skills to build all that wouldn't crash it into a curb that's why
Why my rc plane can do faster with half the power? 4s... :-p
Edward Chew this was just a slow testing to make sure everything works
What is the expected top speed out of curiosity?
KlockworXMusic 170 MPH plus, depending on what happens with the aero package at that point. 1/8 Scale GT RC cars have hit 170 MPH with production chassis and bodies. Typically at 12-14 lbs and one motor, currently all up weight without body is 19Lbs, body will weight close to one pound. 20 Lbs. I️ can reconfigure batteries and drop about 3lbs, but I️ built this with mindset, of having enough power to max these motors out, we will see if pure muscle can overcome drag, or if I️ need to lighten it up.
holy 170mph! i kneel to you
Because a plane has less resistance than a car because a car is struggling to keep itself on the road
Get grp tires get sticky when hot no balloon
I think some aerodynamics would have helped! I have a really fast RC car and without the proper down force, mine just wants to get loose and take off! It's like any real race car.
Nice setup! My mini 8 hits 135 on spedo, modded with 10th velinium on 4s, outraced my buddies exo1 down the freeway unlocked lol
You need a body for that beast. (and a name) its so tall so i have idea where you will find on but you will get much better traction and better speeds too. Nice runs
Nice project bro looks great ... but I wouldn't spend so much on it for the speed your reaching its a lot more to speed runs than dropping a system in any rc n pull the trigger... good luck bro!👍🏾
24hp? I don't see that thing having the power of an 85cc MX bike that can carry my 175lb ass at 65mph. I love RC cars and have many, literally just got done working on one, but I don't believe that had 24hp.
Do anything under 40 and she'll snap an axle, hahaha :) :) Awesome rc man, can't wait to see a wide open pull.
FPV it that thing get a buddy to lookout for traffic, take it as far away as you can and let'er rip but first put some rubber tires on it. Nice job!
Good advice
Oh ok,I was wandering what was going on,have u done a full run yet?if so what was your speed and good luck
Getting ready, next few weeks, been busy.
Seems to expensive for the performance, but still cool with all the tech you put into it
Nick Adamson that was just the beginning of some great things, failure is the best teacher
Track13News of ourse failure is a great teacher, and I hope you hit that mark.
You get a sub and a like out of me. Updates are a must!
I find this kind of stuff really cool even though I prefer freestyle drones, but the engineer part of me says this looks good on paper but in reality is somewhat flawed. On something that small and light, its hard to control at a speed that a normal car would handle with ease. 24hp is a big number for something that size, a quick Google search turned up the world record of 202mph was set with an RC car with only 12hp, and looking that that one, its got a really long wheelbase (it looks like a full size land speed record car but its doing lower speeds then the real thing) and uses lipos that would add weight. As much as I like super caps, they are lighter and your car seems to be a really short wheel base and I think they would almost be a hindrance here, but I am guessing you are using them for their high amperage capabilities? I imagine it will be really hard to get that car to actually go very fast without spinning out of control though. I find this really interesting because I feel like you are building the RC car equivalent of the X-29 with its forward swept wings, which if unfamiliar is an aircraft that is built to be unstable to have increased agility, at the cost of having a computer system keep the craft in the air. Its really cool but I think you might need a longer wheel base and aerodynamics to add down force. Even full sized racecars use wings for downforce because you want the car to 'weigh' more sometimes, while having low weight to change direction quicker. But because RC cars are so small and light, hitting speeds in excess of 100mph is like shooting a cotton ball out of a cannon, or even throwing a cotton ball, its so light it doesn't track straight in the slightest. I am going to subscribe because I want to see how this goes, what revisions you find you have to make and what the eventual end product turns out like.
Also, do people run Expo on their steering for RC cars? I feel like bucket loads of expo would be really helpful for controlling this so you have fine steering control across most of the stick/wheel range, while having it turn extremely sharply if you went all the way to the end of the stick/wheel travel.
Work in progress, body will be here any day, I was really nervous to run without the body. But I wanted to see how the motors worked together, if the thing actually operated correctly. It exceeded my expectations, was tracking straight, with only simple eyeball tuning, no measuring. Center of gravity is low, well balanced. I was very concerned with the weight affecting handling, so I spent a long time thinking about how I could fit everything, and keep weight low to the ground. Honestly, it handled just like a tuned car at 12-13 lbs. The four shocks front and rear, low center of gravity, and super stiff 4.5 MM CF chassis are working well. There is nothing easy about getting an RC car up to 100 plus, to quick on the throttle and you break traction, and your done, off to the curb it goes. That was about 1/3 throttle, with mild gearing, lots of untapped power. Expo, yes, can adjust speed, endpoints, travel, dual rates more steering at low speed, less at high, and everything in between, channel mixing, can use Gyro to center steering real time. Thanks for your input, interest, and Sub!
where are you? Wyoming?
Isaac Trockman Utah
It needs a wing or an aerodynamic body to keep the power down
kyle French yeah body is being painted, but I️ couldn’t wait to try it out, been planning, sourcing parts, and building for 6 months and snow is soon in Utah, so there you go, slow runs to see if it works
7:12 this is why i never got into this hobby. Endless money
Trust me your correct but if you achieve big speed best feeling
How did you come to the conclusion that this RC car is producing 24 hp??
derjoh1986 it hasn’t yet, but each motor is rated at 5000 watts continuous, 9000 watt peak, 9000/750 watts = 12 HP, there are two TP4070cm 2200 kv motors
Track13News so that means if you put two giant 100kw motor there it'll output 200kw??? Omg please.
@@dexkong8256 lookup the motor specs and what the actual motor is before you make yourself sound silly.
Bro congratulations that you have achieved speed of 70mph on an rc car test run best wishes to you achieve more mph on your rc test run car to achieve that much on rc is it's groundbreaking bro although it's not a joke while building up such record by on our own and that rc test run car too best luck bro that you can fix it up & break your own speed record waiting for next video with amazing record breaking & ground breaking speed of your car hats off to you bro & your own rc creation & be more alert / conscious while riding rc as the spare are to difficult to find best of luck bro thumps up for bro yehhh that's how we rc bro ☺️☺️☺️
This rc car has more power than the first car ever made
That's the Ken Block Rally Car right? Selling a roller on eBay, with 2 shells, one being the super-collectible Castrol Edge Adu Dhabi body.
No, custom project
That's quite a project. Love it when RC enthusiasts do their own thing!
Damn there are alot of haters here. Its says test run in huge capitol letters.
This thing is a monster and as with any car the hp number is its max.
Well, you sir get it! Exactly! Thank You! I am getting closer to working out the kinks, have hope this spring will have. Some big numbers. Thanks for watching.
Thats like three NASA comput ers
Hey, few questions if I may, but before then - haters on this comment thread - do you have nothing better to do? Most people are out there sitting on their damn couches doing nothing useful, and you're hating on this OP for trying something out? Even if you think it has no merit, can't you see that you're the reason we can't have nice things?
As for the questions: 1) I think you're calling them 'super' capacitors because you've got lots of them in both series and parallel so you can charge to really high voltages and have a lot of charge in there, correct? 2) I guess you have the super-capacitor packs in parallel with the battery packs, so that they discharge into the main circuit with the ESC to give a higher discharge amperage when the battery packs can't keep up, but then they recharge when you're out of the burst? 3) Have you measured the discharge through that circuit yet and confirmed that they're working as intended? 4) What steering expo are you using and are you mixing that with throttle at all to keep the thing stable? 5) Did you set anything on fire before coming up with the capacitor charging method that you have? 6) When you say that you have '50 Amps' in the capacitor packs, since that's a current and not a total charge, I don't think that makes sense. Do you mean 50 Ah? But that's at constant voltage, so I'd expect to see it in either coulombs (confusingly that symbol is 'C', which is used in battery tech to describe charge and discharge rates, but doesn't refer to colombs) or Wh (watt-hours) for comparisons with your batteries. How many watt hours are in there? Or maybe you're saying that you used 50 amps to charge them up to 8s?
Okay answered one of my own questions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supercapacitor
Thanks for your questions and support! Answers: Q1 The Capacitors I am using are supercap, ultracapacitor or Goldcap) is a high-capacity capacitor with capacitance values much higher than other capacitors (but lower voltage limits), @EVULEMPIRERACING created these supercap packs for me, I only know they store about 50 amps each of instant power. Q2 Correct, using to minimize ripple voltage, connected parallel but specifically one cap pack per ESC as close as possible to the ESC. Q3 Ripple voltage peaked at 1.45v. Q4 no expo, will be tweaking the steering, throttle might keep linear, braking intend on using ABS feature on Futaba. Q5 Well I ARCed a few 8mm bullet bad enough that only half of the bullet was left intact, and I used xt60 at first on the precharge at 8S, that plug lasted 2 plug ins before it was completely distroyed from the ARC.
Man, I think, you have enough torque in motor to change your gearing and go much faster!
I agree
Dr. Frankenstein’s monster.
Is think you need to redo your math buddy.
24hp on 7lbs lets be hopefull and call it a coefficient of friction of one.
Tell me again what speed you stop wheel spin at?
I got in the order of 1000mph
24 Hp means 17'897 Watts and your motors are 5000 Watts each... so it is less than 14 horsepower, still impressive
Yes two 5000 watt continuous, 9000 watt max 10 sec burst motors
How are you obtaining 8S power? 2-4S in series then perhaps 2 of those arrangements in parallel for capacity? Or are they straight 8S packs in parallel?
I have 2 8000 Mah 4S run series on each side, then those are ran parrallel, you are correct. 8000 Mah 8S each ESC/Motor, in addition I have 2 Super Capacitors, each hold about 50 AMPS
This is really neat. But you should get into quads as well. More fun---Much cheaper--Much faster. Rip the Skies!!!!!!
Ja H I️ have a few quads, this will go much faster very soon
If you need and advice on the build bro hit me up
what did you put it on a dyno or something you cant tell how much horsepower an electric motor is putting out and I've seen faster rc's.
Dorito Man47 no dyno, do have data logs on each ESC, but it has TP4070CM 2200 kv rated at 5000 W continuous 9000 peak watts. 9000/750 watts is 12 HP, there are two motors in there. This was very first passes, at 1/3 throttle, only generated 5.6 HP each motor. More to come
Track13News 👌you should put bigger tires on it to make it go even faster.
Waho extraordinary brother 👌 👌 👌 🔝 👍 👍 👍 nice speed run 👌 👌 👌 🔝 👍 👍 👍
That sucks that it crashed!!! I know the feel!!
I thought he was disarming a C4 lololol
Are you around the tri cities in washington??
Utah
U need a fpv camera so you can see first hand where u are
Good idea, working on it...
Why isn't it going faster than 70???? Did u pull the trigger to full throttle?
Only pulled 1/3 throttle, was slow beta test run, really just testing to see that it would run straight and that it actually operated. Will be testing seriously soon.
Track13News what's the deal with it now that was what 7+ months ago. Is there a shell on it now
Yes, body, some refinement. I am in Utah, so winter happened, and I built another 1/8 Speedrun car that is complete too, so it’s about to get real!
What kinda car did it start its life as? Arrma typhoon? Good looking build! I like the wire job! Ignore the haters n do you.... i like the tech talk in the begining... im still a novice (80 mph 6s slash build) but why charge the cap packs? I thought they protected the esc from voltage spikes? Plus the grooves in that blacktop would no doubt make my build squirrly as $&@^ good stuff!
George Vinc yes Arrma TYPHON, had a CF chassis cut, longer than TYPHON shorter than Kraton, 360 mm wheel base GT2 style. Those Supercaps combined hold about 100 Amps, so they pull that in instantly, I was burning up 8mm and 10 mm bullet connectors from the ARC when plugging in, so precharging was my solution, plus gives me a little extra capacity. Thanks for watching
Go-Go Godzilla!!! 😈
What gears you running .... that has a lot to do with how fast it goes.
I believe it was 25T P 34 S, hit 72 mph at about 1/3 throttle, I barely over throttled and broke traction. Lol whoops
@@Track13News good run i seen 25p i wanna say 42 sp and it was good fast
It will polish out :)
Lol yup
if this rc has 24 h.p. you could melt all 4 tires of by pegging the throttle. how did you confirm it has 24 h.p. ???
tppowerusa.com/motors/in-stock-new-arrival/tp-4070-cm-2200kv Two motors
Damn, my first VW had only about that much horse power.😄
You need to get auto steer. I have taken my GT2 on 6s up to 143 and its straight as an arrow.
Received my Futaba surface gyro yesterday, thanks for your input and watching
more powerful than most hondas
dale leibfried my buddies pruis is envying
Cool build man but why in God’s name would you bring the box to the road and then put the car on it there and not by the real car out and off the road ?
Was doing a Facebook live at the time, had my phone on tripod to the left
All that wiring is a recipe for a fire!!
8 gauge wire, and 8 & 10 MM bullets, no fire here. Low resistance, big wire and large bullets keeps unnecessary heat to minimum.
Danger Danger High Voltage!
LOL
Cool rc , but. Testing on a highway??
U couldn't find a strip of road with out curbs...a small airfield??
David Jessee it’s actually a road with undeveloped commercial lots, round abouts on each end, and .34 Mile inbetween. 1/2 mike from my home, so after I get I up to maybe 120 I will need a better place
Boise?
Brian Katich Utah County, Utah
My early 1980's Thunder Bolt from Nikko would do around them speeds. Not seeing the big deal just allot of cash for bells and whistles.
On a castle u should have no problem with running a single, I run 120 hv on 12s 120c pushing hard in my helis, and plane,
You're going to put FPV on it, right?
Louis P Floyd yes for sure
It was a good crash test
This is much Slower than an HPI Bullet St ( Older Version )
so 32v at 90a into the system. thats 2880watts. 2880 wats to HP thats like 3.8 HP. of power you have put in the syterm. Ok thats fine i can live with that. You say your running a 400a ESC, so 400a at 32 volts like that max you could have made here is maybe 17HP. so my question is where did you get 24 HP from?
Running two XLX ESC, two TP4070CM 2200KV motors, yes they are 6.6 HP each continuous but 12 HP Max 9000 watts each
Track13News So your over driving your ESC by 8600 watts to get this? I'm very confused. I'm trying to do the math and I know I've just got to be missing something.
Track13News I love the car it looks really cool, I'm not trying to diss the fact that car is cool.
Well 32V by 281.25 Amps = 9000 Watts, each XLX is rated for 160 AMP at 8S continuous, $5120 watts, no peak rating, so I am hoping when I draw peak load (which I haven't yet) they wont burst into flames
3:13 is where the driving starts.
Tbh, I wanted to do this too but these parts are expensive, and almost always, something breaks...
This video needs a teaser disclaimer.
Matthew Milton filmed live on FB this is the GoPro footage, get what you get
A typical 20 horsepower electric motor is the size of a toaster-oven and runs at over 400 volts. How did you manage to get yours so small?
tppowerusa.com/motors/in-stock-new-arrival/tp-4070-cm-2200kv There are two of these in there, I am using peak rating.
Impressive specs. An electric golf cart, on average, will feature a 3-5 HP electric motor. So you could really build a kick-ass go-cart with one of those.
www.diversifiedgolfcars.com/gas_or_electric.htm
Lard British I think the torque for these motors wouldn’t be enough for a golf cart, but TP has lower kv motors that would work
It's a high RPM motor (75,000). So isn't it just a matter of using a gearbox to reduce the RPMs and increase the torque?
yes and no, gear yes, but at 75,000 rpm efficiency is not optimal, so be better to maximize efficiency with job needing done, more torque or less torque, etc.
Why -17db audio? WTF.
BWX sorry