Heavy New York// Satyricon// Interview
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- We had Frost of @SatyriconOfficial come on HNY to discuss Satyricon and Munch, the evolution of Satyricon's sound, his art behind drumming, his connection to Edvard Munch and so much more \m/ \m/
Satyricon and Munch out now on @napalmrecords \m/ \m/
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I keep listening... so thrilled.
Thanks for bringing up Volcano! I had forgotten it's the 20th anniversary.
They have described it as a part of a trilogy: from Rebel's complexity to the more compact, driven, and even minimalistic (or rather, introversive, engulfing) sound on Diabolical - to the grandiose simple flow of Nero.
Insight into the process of Volcano...
Satyr: "When I was making ”Repined Bastard Nation” on Volcano, I looked at Frost. The song is very driven. It’s like a freight train coming. It certainly wasn’t like that when we started playing it. That was post-Rebel Extravaganza. When Frost started playing the drum beat you hear on the record, he added all kinds of intricate stuff. The only thing it did was ruin all the fluency of the song. I kept playing it and thought it was horrible. I thought this song could be full of life, energy, and spark, but it’s fucked up ’cause all these drum fills and cymbal stuff ruin the song. I asked him, ‘Why are you playing all this stuff? I like the beat the way it is.’ He said, ‘What do you mean? I don’t know. I just play this.’ I said, ‘Are you playing all this stuff to make the song better?’ He said, ‘What do you mean better?’ I said, ‘Are you playing it to show your friends what you can do? I don’t get it.’ He looked at me like, ‘What the fuck are you talking about?’ I just wanted him to play straightforward. Just play the beat. That’s it. We played it again. That was it! We had the fluency, the drive, the freight train vibe. He agreed but felt we should put something in there. He felt naked. So what? I couldn’t tell if it was bothering him because it was good naked or bad naked. He just wasn’t used to leaving the drums open. With that we were able to have a more aggressive rhythm structure for the vocals. So, we did that on Volcano. It was difficult for Frost. He loved the end result. It was the exact same thing with Now, Diabolical. The thing is if you ask Frost he’ll tell you it wasn’t until The Age of Nero that he truly appreciated the importance of what we were trying to achieve. He actually started contributing. Before, he’d fight me. He wouldn’t get it until we were finished."
Frost:
"Many people have misunderstood what black metal is all about. It seems to me that many people are lacking a sense of history, lacking an understanding of where it comes from, what are its musical roots, and what is the essence of the genre. What most musicians experience is that sooner or later they want to find the roots, to explore them and understand how things have gotten to be. Then of course you start to find a fascination with the founding fathers of the genres that eventually gave birth to your own.
In Satyricon we listen to some old blues music and there's this strong dark aura that hangs heavily on those artists. And it has that kind of character, an authenticity, and even if we don't like the religious aspect in itself, it makes sense as a part of the totality. These roots are part of the historic evidence every musician should be aware of.
Sooner or later it will lead to the blues, but this is mainly Satyr's thing, and my own roots are primarily in the 80s and hard rock. AC/DC were and still are masters of really groovy, boogie rocknroll music, and to integrate some of that groove and dirty rocknroll feeling into your own music, that's enriching. Some people find that rocknroll-based music is by definition lacking aggression or not dark, which is a great misconception in metal music."
"Satyricon & Munch is the naked essence of Satyricon" - how not to love Frost?!
It surprises me in such a wonderful way that I'm so passionate about Satyricon.
I remember a question I had once posed to Frost (Roadrunner Q&A):
"You describe passion as the driving force in your life - would you say it is a passion primarily for music, or more broadly a passion for life?
Frost: It’s impossible to take it any further than saying it’s a passion for music that has bought me and us to devote our lives Satyricon. I mean, you can always try to analyse this further and see that music in a way is tied to life and vitality but I haven’t really bought the thought or analysis that far. I just know and I feel that there’s passion for music and I observe that music invokes very strong things and very strong feeling in me. It pulls strings and being a performer myself it feels like the only way I could go. I cannot really even think of my life as something detached from music now. Ten years ago perhaps I could but not any more and passion for music must be what does it. I cannot conceive of it differently."
Thank you so much for this interview!!!
This album has been everything I'd hoped and didn't dare hope from Satyricon - I was elated as soon as I first read it "wouldn't be a mere collection of songs". And then, as Frost wonderfully puts it, the "unconventional" instrumentation that Satyricon had only hinted at previously, now constitutes the rich and diverse musical milieu of the piece.
Satyricon never succumbed to the "scene's" rather simplistic and retrograde demands - in fact, in my opinion they're singlehandedly responsible for the genre's relevance - and here I imply the entire genre of heavy metal... if they are at all "heavy metal". That's it: they step on a definition to merely transcend it, after having explored its boundaries. Their outlines are akin to Munch's, while infused with similar emotion.
Satyr's compositional and melodic genius, and his emotional subtlety have never been compromised. The "metalness" is in these men's conviction and determination to forge through and forward. Their boldness, psychologically speaking, is in their passion to dig deep into the darkest recesses of experience. As Jung said, "You don't become enlightened by imagining figures of light, but by making the darkness conscious."
"The darkness, the beautiful darkness... shall be eternal."
Something by Frost (2008):
"Black metal is a music genre that's creative itself, it's very open; it's not defined by strictly technical characteristics - it's defined by the atmosphere, the moods, the vibes. And basically, that gives a certain freedom to musicians of our genre. You are very free to bring in elements from all different sorts of music, bring in unconventional instruments, and you could go as far as making purely electronic or drone-based music and still call it black metal. I think it has to be understood that the genre was born by really creative, innovative artists, and those brought a lot of avant-garde elements into it, and created black metal as a musical arena for very dark ambiance but also for lots of creativity. You can base the music on thrash metal or death metal or heavy metal or rocknroll or whatever else - the focus point has to be the atmosphere that it brings. I think too many people have been falling into a trap: they think they want to do this black metal thing, and all they manage to focus on is the imagery and superficial elements, not really the essence of the genre. What was mainly there to create contrast, suddenly becomes main ingredients: melodies, harmonies, female vocals, synthesizers, orchestral arrangements and all that kind of thing that isn't really essential to the genre. It was brought to create contrast only because there was room for it."
"Music is escapism" is something which Rob Halford likes to iterate - and Judas Priest is the prototype of Spinal Tap.
Satyricon is real art, and real art's aim is catharsis.
Great interview Hail from Norway🤘🏽
I can't think of another band releasing more boring riffs and songs since Satyricon post-"Rebel Extravaganza" (1999).
Funny enough, being the most non-BM album, "Satyricon & Munch" has a lot of interesting parts.
Boredom is a sign of passive aggression and/or personality disorder.
let him speak?
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После "Вулкано" все альбомы легкие, просто другая группа, без намека на жестокость и тьму, такую я не буду слушать.
Speak English.