People do not understand just how hard chaos actually is without leveling. The base game expects you to have grinded souls which nets exp. In randos, chaos can be a massive difficulty spike.
Even with zero grind, if you have claimh or got lucky enough to grab red minotaur soul, you're just set and the boss will be super ez. When you can't control your load out, you have no guarantees!
I don't even know how you're supposed to beat double chaos lvl 1 without final guard. With it the fight is insane, without it I call it borderline impossible.
@@Keycil Depends on what you allow yourself to use / grind for. - getting a crapton of healing items gives you more than enough sustain to make it past double chaos even if you play rather badly - access to many MP healing items allows you to either spam transformations (big damage + immune to damage), Slime, some combo of Sky Fish + strong spell (Lightning Doll, Nightmare etc.), Final Guard or even try to be sneaky with Kyoma Demon) - obviously finding even better weapons would help out a lot: Claim is always solid, Lavateein does really well and if you get your hands on Final Sword you have a big advantage over Double Chaos, even on Level 1 Fact is with the option to theoretically hunt for as many healing items as you want you can offset lack in dodging skills with "Effective HP". Always keep in mind that Jupiter first and foremost goes through these randomizers in a speedrun-y kind of way. If he were to play it slower he could save many of the free healing items during exploration, allowing for an easier finale against Double Chaos if need be. That's the risk of playing aggressive and fast vs. save and slow.
My first time watching a randomizer Aria run, it was pretty fun. Even though I am sure it wasn't fun so while playing it, the cut at 1:54:44 made me laugh.
I kinda don't like forced LV.1 for these randos. The concept of forced LV.1 for a challenge isn't so bad as a one-off thing, but for a maximized randomized run, I feel like it makes things artificially difficult. Then again, if you got the proper EXP from defeating some of these late game enemies coupled with the stats from strong equipment (if found early) it may also make the rando a breeze, since Aria is just sorta like that. Tough call, honestly.
I've also thought about this, and what came to my mind was maybe making the bosses giving you levels. That way there's a cap to grinding, and also killing bosses is always not pointless, even if they're guarding a worthless check afterwards.
I concur. Level capped at 1 is a bit annoying to watch. The forced difficulty isn't really fun for me to watch. I'm a big Bloodstained RotN fan. I've beaten that game every which way. The hardest difficulty setting is capped lvl 1. I've only done that twice. Once as NG+ and again as NG. Standard NG was not fun.
@14:56 Yeah, you're right about Noctowl, although it's nowhere near as forgotten as some of the other regional birds like Fearow and Unfezant. The most attention it got recently was a stat buff in Gen 7, in the form of a whopping +10 boost...to it's Sp. Atk, which doesn't really help fulfil it's role as a support Pokemon. A 3rd evolution would do wonders, preferably with a new ability since all of Noctowl's current ones are pretty abysmal.
Don't forget that this was a fight against Double Chaos, which means two Chaos' are present during the battle. Obviously it was never indended by design to fight more than one entity at the same time, making it that much more difficult compared to vanilla. Not impossible but the amount of projectiles on screen speaks for itself.
Hello Mr. JupiterClimb, I realize this is an old video, but it's the one I'm currently on. I've been curious for quite some time... I've noticed you've been playing more of Bloodstained Ritual of the Night. Maybe I'm out of the loop but I thought you weren't going to stream that game cause you didn't enjoy it? Which in all honesty I was fine with because even though it made me a little sad that you weren't going to cover ROTN and pull off some crazy cool stuff, I kinda get it. You grew up on the Castlevania games that Ritual takes inspiration from and it's not as good. i knew going in that f I finished one of the Castlevanias first I'd find stuff to nitpick at and wouldn't enjoy it as much or be as hyped. It's what really got me into the series as a whole (although i had owned a version of SOTN beforehand). Truth be told even though it is one of my favorites, nowadays it always makes me want to replay Aria or SOTN or Circle. The Gothic Horror aesthetic is just unmatched as a fan of old school horror movies. But what made you change your mind and start recording stuff for Ritual? This isn't something that you're trying to force yourself to enjoy right (I tried doing that with Hollow Knight and I eventually just wasn't feeling it)? Cause I think you deserve to play what you want.
Ritual has genuinely grown on me a lot. It's a great game! It's just got a lot of jank, and since speedrunners typically play with lower levels and fewer resources, even casually, those problems are more apparent. But once you adjust to the game's flaws, the movement and combat are both excellent.
@@JupiterClimb Well I for one am definitely glad that's the case cause i love your content, (but to be fair your content is top tier regardless of the game)The built in Randomizer certainly helps (I just finished Aurora Mode myself and she is BEYOND BUSTED)... I wish the other characters were also able to have randomized abilities, but I think it would take away from the stripped down "arcade" like nature of the extra modes.
Trying to beat double chaos on lv1 is incredibly hard , you saw what he had to do on final attempt to even beat that thing? No wonder it took an extra hour
To me the colors and black-levels looks more deep and rich. Is it just me? Are you running a filter or increase the vibrancy in some way? Probably just me. My vision ain't the best.
**First room of arena, two shadow knights and a succubus**
JC: aight, imma head out.
_(Sees early Arena.)_
*Nice!*
_(Gets flanked by late game enemies.)_
*D:*
These randomizers can be hilarious sometimes.
Jupiter - (sees Arena) Let’s go for it.
Arena - And I took that personally.
People do not understand just how hard chaos actually is without leveling. The base game expects you to have grinded souls which nets exp. In randos, chaos can be a massive difficulty spike.
Even with zero grind, if you have claimh or got lucky enough to grab red minotaur soul, you're just set and the boss will be super ez. When you can't control your load out, you have no guarantees!
It's a two hours video worth of content, and yet the top comment we have is "creaking skull" with zero context and explanation
Creaking Skull
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This was one of the best gameplay comedy hours I've seen :)
Thanks for uploading a max rando
I’m filled with joy ! I really love your channel
wait till you find out that he streams
Insane gameplay in that winning attempt on Chaos.
Damn Succubus and Final Guard coming in clutch
I don't even know how you're supposed to beat double chaos lvl 1 without final guard. With it the fight is insane, without it I call it borderline impossible.
@@Keycil Depends on what you allow yourself to use / grind for.
- getting a crapton of healing items gives you more than enough sustain to make it past double chaos even if you play rather badly
- access to many MP healing items allows you to either spam transformations (big damage + immune to damage), Slime, some combo of Sky Fish + strong spell (Lightning Doll, Nightmare etc.), Final Guard or even try to be sneaky with Kyoma Demon)
- obviously finding even better weapons would help out a lot: Claim is always solid, Lavateein does really well and if you get your hands on Final Sword you have a big advantage over Double Chaos, even on Level 1
Fact is with the option to theoretically hunt for as many healing items as you want you can offset lack in dodging skills with "Effective HP".
Always keep in mind that Jupiter first and foremost goes through these randomizers in a speedrun-y kind of way. If he were to play it slower he could save many of the free healing items during exploration, allowing for an easier finale against Double Chaos if need be. That's the risk of playing aggressive and fast vs. save and slow.
"level 1"
Well, see ya next upload.
My first time watching a randomizer Aria run, it was pretty fun. Even though I am sure it wasn't fun so while playing it, the cut at 1:54:44 made me laugh.
"Nothing here"
Don't leave a perfectly good plate of money sitting on the ground.
That was quite the experience, Jupiter is THE mad lad.
I kinda don't like forced LV.1 for these randos. The concept of forced LV.1 for a challenge isn't so bad as a one-off thing, but for a maximized randomized run, I feel like it makes things artificially difficult. Then again, if you got the proper EXP from defeating some of these late game enemies coupled with the stats from strong equipment (if found early) it may also make the rando a breeze, since Aria is just sorta like that. Tough call, honestly.
Maybe a level cap like how Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia have
I've also thought about this, and what came to my mind was maybe making the bosses giving you levels. That way there's a cap to grinding, and also killing bosses is always not pointless, even if they're guarding a worthless check afterwards.
I concur. Level capped at 1 is a bit annoying to watch. The forced difficulty isn't really fun for me to watch. I'm a big Bloodstained RotN fan. I've beaten that game every which way. The hardest difficulty setting is capped lvl 1. I've only done that twice. Once as NG+ and again as NG. Standard NG was not fun.
I really like your videos, I have been watching non stop
I just realized that Onikiri means demon cutter.
I was in 6th or 7th grade when is game came out. I spent many a school day ignoring my classmates to get lost in Dracula's Castle. Great memories.
Impressive last fight, looked way too intense. Double Chaos is brutal
I really like the color scheme in this….beautiful.
Hace mucho que no veía una buena partida, great!
Jupiter nunca decepciona
My god this seed is just cruel lol
Not gonna lie this was tough. Great vid JC you're the best 👍🏽
RIppers living up to their name
28:45 The Ripper the came in to just, seal the deal:
Final Guard/Succubus
Missed these, what a seed
Hell yeaaaa another AOS MAX RANDOOOOOO!
Christmas came a little late this year
lmao i thought the same thing
@14:56 Yeah, you're right about Noctowl, although it's nowhere near as forgotten as some of the other regional birds like Fearow and Unfezant.
The most attention it got recently was a stat buff in Gen 7, in the form of a whopping +10 boost...to it's Sp. Atk, which doesn't really help fulfil it's role as a support Pokemon. A 3rd evolution would do wonders, preferably with a new ability since all of Noctowl's current ones are pretty abysmal.
Oh boy. That whole Fortnite comment... You know, Soma is the same age as Fortnite. If I have to suffer knowing this knowledge now you will too.
I really like the Aria of Sorrow Rando but somehow i'm not really a fan of max lvl 1 i think it takes fun out of it a bit but thats just me
Holy hell Chaos is horrendously difficult in level 1
Don't forget that this was a fight against Double Chaos, which means two Chaos' are present during the battle. Obviously it was never indended by design to fight more than one entity at the same time, making it that much more difficult compared to vanilla. Not impossible but the amount of projectiles on screen speaks for itself.
NOOO creaking skull IS GONE!! WHAT DID THEY DO TO MY BOY
So, can we get Ripper as a playable character?
Skelleton
eh, lvl 1 is too arbitrary. respect the grind tho.
who peed in the fountain tho
Oh good, I'm not the only one who noticed. Bit of an unfortunate color palette there...
How do I install Aria of sorrow randomizer. I already own aria of sorrow on steam and have beaten it 6 or 7 times.
You can find the link here: aosrando.surge.sh/
@@JupiterClimb What a strangely undecorated web page.
Are we not going to mention that all the water in this pallete is just urine?
NOOO JUPITER FROM A YEAR AGO DONT BUY THE CHRONO SOUL YOU CANT USE IT AT LEVEL 1
Hello Mr. JupiterClimb,
I realize this is an old video, but it's the one I'm currently on. I've been curious for quite some time...
I've noticed you've been playing more of Bloodstained Ritual of the Night. Maybe I'm out of the loop but I thought you weren't going to stream that game cause you didn't enjoy it? Which in all honesty I was fine with because even though it made me a little sad that you weren't going to cover ROTN and pull off some crazy cool stuff, I kinda get it. You grew up on the Castlevania games that Ritual takes inspiration from and it's not as good.
i knew going in that f I finished one of the Castlevanias first I'd find stuff to nitpick at and wouldn't enjoy it as much or be as hyped. It's what really got me into the series as a whole (although i had owned a version of SOTN beforehand).
Truth be told even though it is one of my favorites, nowadays it always makes me want to replay Aria or SOTN or Circle. The Gothic Horror aesthetic is just unmatched as a fan of old school horror movies.
But what made you change your mind and start recording stuff for Ritual? This isn't something that you're trying to force yourself to enjoy right (I tried doing that with Hollow Knight and I eventually just wasn't feeling it)? Cause I think you deserve to play what you want.
Ritual has genuinely grown on me a lot. It's a great game! It's just got a lot of jank, and since speedrunners typically play with lower levels and fewer resources, even casually, those problems are more apparent. But once you adjust to the game's flaws, the movement and combat are both excellent.
@@JupiterClimb Well I for one am definitely glad that's the case cause i love your content, (but to be fair your content is top tier regardless of the game)The built in Randomizer certainly helps (I just finished Aurora Mode myself and she is BEYOND BUSTED)... I wish the other characters were also able to have randomized abilities, but I think it would take away from the stripped down "arcade" like nature of the extra modes.
Why the graphics is better?
Telling a speedrunner that "slow and steady wins the race" is just wasted breath, isn't it? Lol
What happened from 1:54 hours to 2:48?
Trying to beat double chaos on lv1 is incredibly hard , you saw what he had to do on final attempt to even beat that thing? No wonder it took an extra hour
What a garbage run. And by garbage I mean what the game gave you. Good job on making your way through it.
Forced lvl 1 is just not fun.
To me the colors and black-levels looks more deep and rich. Is it just me? Are you running a filter or increase the vibrancy in some way? Probably just me. My vision ain't the best.
It's a recolor patch. Likely loaded on top of the rando.