WORLD POOL CHAMPIONSHIP 1960s LEGENDARY POOL HUSTLERS
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2018
- This is a real piece of pocket billiards history! Aired on ABC Wide World of Sports!
The Jansco Brothers World All Around Pocket Billiards Championship aka The Hustlers' Jamboree or The Hustlers Tournament in the 1960s.
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It's crazy to think that Danny to this day is doing commentary for this great sport
Playing with class... in a suit.
Collar shirt and vest is a classy look also.
Lmao ! The Jansko Brothers ! Them two there boy was something else 🤣They say one would rob you of your left eye and the other would tell you how dapper you look without it ! 😝
I saw Wimpy play in 1974, good memory
It's crazy to see how much the fundamentals have changed over the generations. Love seeing these old school matches, thanks for the upload.
These old matches, especially from Johnson City are pure gold. Many thanks.
I can't count how many times I've watched this and I could watch everyday for the rest of my life.
What a treat! Love these classic videos with the masters of the sport. Thanks Max!
one night many decades ago i was at 7-11 pool hall on 7th avenue in manhattan. things were slow and quiet at around 3 a.m. and i was the only one in the place who was watching shorty practice billiards alone. he made 10 straight 3-cushion billiards, not near a record but a damn good run, requiring not only shot-making but playing position, setting up for good shots to follow. i had never made more than 4 consecutive billiards (i was only a so-so shooter), so it was impressive.
Champagne Eddie's shot was nice! Reminded me of Paul Newman's scene: "I don't rattle, kid.
But just for that, I'm going to beat you flat! ...That's ten. You two-bit punk, come on. Pay up, $100!"👀
Eddie was my Great Uncle. He was the best. Miss him dearly
Oh THANK YOU so much for putting this up. I love watching the elders do it.
So I walk into the Silver Cue in Woburn Ma. at about 8pm on a weekday in the early 1980's back when I was at my peak and there is Shorty Johnson playing a casual game. I jumped at the chance to play with him cuz what is money if you can play One Pocket with a Legend. RIP Mr. Johnson.
Thank you so much for letting us see the old timers in action.
I grew up on a farm about 30 miles North of Johnson City, IL. I was commuting to college at SIU from my home in the 60's. On my way to classes I stopped at Johnson City Pool tournament several times. I saw all the great one back in the 60's at Johnson City including Minnesota Fats who bragged a lot. They gambled a lot on the side. Also, I grew up when the gangs were rampant in Southern Illinois!
Ronnie Allen was born in Danville, IL which is close to where I was born. I saw him play One Pocket at Johnson City. He won the One Pocket title there in 1970. He is in One Pocket Hall of Fame!
True class. Players playing with suits. Learning from legends.. Awesome..
Cowboy Jimmy Moore was my friend and mentor in Albuquerque New Mexico he used to talk about Johnson City all the time 👍
Lassiter man what a player.
Max, this is FANTASTIC!
So many of the legends looking so young. I never would have recognized DiLiberto if he hadn't intorduced him self.
Thank you.
but his voice sounds like whistlin' danny to me
holy jeez diliberto was young once! what a treasure trove, awesome upload!
Max, I just came upon this video and it is wonderful for two reasons. As a pool player for 60 some odd years it was great hearing such names as Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Lassiter who were legendary during this time period and for years afterwards. There was an obscure reference to Grossinger, NY where the world famous Grossinger Resort was which I worked the front desk during the early 1970s. Thanks again for the post!!
I used to hang out at barefoot billiards in the late 90’s to early 2000’s.Bill “Weenie Beanie” Staton was a regular there. He loved to roll the keno board in the Back. I was young and thought it was mostly luck in the beginning. Lol Have a lot of stories with him. He started flipping me and Leon Hilburn at the Brass Tap in Raleigh, NC a quarter for $100 a flip and he won 6 flips in a row going double or nothing every time before i dropped out; i was $1600 hooked and only had half the bet. I got nervous as the next flip pretty much would’ve busted me. Leon (My road partner) flipped the next flip by himself for $3200 and wound up winning all his money back & mine too; and everyone was even, except me who lost $1600. Was the beginning of the night and Me being a young 20 yo, i spent the rest of the night with my lips poked out... lol (Side Story) They wiped out a good half of all the money i won on a 3 week road trip. I beat Jose Parica during that trip on a gold crown with him spotting me the 6 out in a local hall (wish i could recall the name of) near Chesapeake, VA (Efren Reyes was gambling on one table next to me and Keith McCready on another); It was after a US open early 2000’s that Ralph Souquet had won. Back to the original story, Beenie taught me an important lesson that night; Coins dont have a memory. Beenie knew if he won enough flips in a row, he would bust us. He knew every hustlers trick in the book. Miss those days so much.
Pretty sure you were at Q-Masters.
I knew him from GENES POOL ROOM. IN THE EARLY 90 'S ... AMOS N ANDY GAME ( KENO POOL ) HE WAS THE MASTER ALONG WITH THE OWNER STEVE WIGGINS
Bill had a few car titles he was holding as MARKERS . 😂 WEANI BEENI WAS ONE SHARP COOKIE 🥠
I love this video. We can learn how to intrigue the pool viewers with this kind of commentary. He explains the game very well as they are shooting. Never deters off the game an talk about outside of the game, as most commentators do, which makes me lose interest. Good explanation of the game and keeping the non pool playing players attention.
I saw Wimpy play at the Statler Hilton In early sixties. Also there was Frank McGown, Onofrio lauri, Mike Euphemia,
to name a few. I still have a photo I took of Onofrio Lauri in the practice room. Frank McGown declined to let me take his photo because I had a flash bulb camera and he was up next. I also use to go to Mike Euphemia' billiard shop in Long Island City, What a thrill for a fourteen year old and what Gentleman Mike and Onofrio were!!! Great memories!!!!!
Thanks Max!!!! All this old timey stuff,, personal and road stories,, SO appreciated..
For those saying these generation of players are no good just look at some of the averages and high runs of different games posted... willie hoppe was averaging 10+ point runs at one time in competition 3 cushion... that’s just insane even by today’s standards... not to mention Mosconi’s high run of 500+ don’t kid yourself, the guys back then could play great pool.
no way could his average been 10 on average unless you are mistaking that for possibly 1 tournament but no way for a few, a year or life time career.....and that era was when you were allowed to play safe in 3 cushion.
I think you forgot a decimal point son....1.0 average, because today, the average is 1.5 or 1.7+ which is insanely good at the world class level.
And they were playing on lesser equipment
Sick match!
I learned that you should file your cue tip if you miscue on the profile edge of the tip.
I also learned what the basics of one pocket are finally: google doesnt say
Great video: thank you so much
Clearly a better time and era for life, culture, acrivity, and of course pool!
🎉😮🎉❤
Great double bank by the Whimpy to win it. One pocket is a great game. A lot of strategy.
I watched Shorty play many times when he was in Boston. He drove cab and gambled with locals, Ingersol and Herbie Merrill. (in a dive, called:, The Mines). Shorty would get a stake up and tour with his rabbit. (Rabbit shot good, & I held my own, but Shorty nixed taking me tho rabbit suggested me to tour).
After a career in military, I retired in OKC OK, & 30 yrs after Boston, in a local tourney ($2K invite), a Jansco Bros, Shorty victim, showed up. I think his name was Hitchcock (didnt know who he was) I won first rnd, then played Hitch. I was hot & ran a couple (race to 7), then Hitch actually choked and I got him 7-2. Saloon owner, busy, stopped and asked how he was doing. He said, "I'm ok, till I get someone who knows what he's doing" Left in a huff..later congratulated me when told I was a duffer.
The mines was called Olympia Billiards....tough plz s to play...
they did this back and forth for the TV, makes a better TV show. there is no way he miss cues, but we get to see them both take and make some good shots.
Wow! Danny DiLiberto. They got a picture of him signed at Sharp Shooter in Miami. I didn’t know he was FROM MIAMI.
Beautiful thx max
Danny was cool man I love it
Bro, this footage is soooooo cool! Thanks for posting!!! Pure nostalgia!!!!!
Thanks, good to see the old-timers. Thanks, Max.
Great to watch these legends; thanks for posting
I think I saw this back when on ABC--the memory tickle was Jim McKay doing the "Trouble" bit from The Music Man--"the hours I spend with a cue in my hand are golden". 8)
I have one dispute with the commentator. He claimed Lassiter's best game was straight pool. But, in fact, it is generally considered by many who knew him, that Wimpy was the greatest nine ball player of all time. I'd take Mosconi at straights, but Luther in a nine ball match. Anybody with me?
Thanks for the thumbs up, Max. I just noticed upon rereading my post, that I inadvertently misspelled my hero's name as, 'Misconi'. Hardly appropriate, since he didn't miss much, huh? Haha
It brings to mind a story about Willie and Wimpy that I heard. Maybe you've heard it. It seems they were having lunch together on a break from a tournament, Chicago I believe it was, when a local hustler, who had been pursuing Wimpy to match up for some $100 a game nine ball. However, Wimpy wasn't interested for some reason, and after repeated attempts by this fella to entice him into a game, Wimpy turned to Willie, and said, "why don't you play him?" Anyway, to cut it short, Willie beat the guy something like 17 straight, when the guy's backer made him quit. The moral of the story, I guess, is that Mosconi could play, no matter what the game. I wouldn't bet against him.
Nine-ball was certainly Lassiter's best game, and he was indeed one of the top five nine-ball players of all-time.
Exactly how it was ! WIMPY BEST GAME WAS NINEBALL ! 😂
My Dad born in 1911 from the east coast, educated refined and played some fine pool. He took me to Linbrook Billiards in Anaheim Ca when I was 7. Up until that point I was poking wood tinker toy disks w a 24 inch wood dowel on a wooden Maze table at the School rec center. I still remember the WOAH i uttered when he rolled out those balls at the billiard parlor. I watched Wide world of Sports often hoping to catch a segment on pool.
Love watchin these guys play . Thank you !!
What a bank for the win, a short Z shot. thanks for finding this. these are are the ones that I watched as I was growing up.
Danny Diliberto is from Buffalo, NY. Maybe he was living and hustling out of Miami at the time. But he's Buffalo Dan. The best straight pool player ever from Buffalo NY.
He was also a world class lightweight boxer. He had a thunderous right hook for only being around 130 lbs.
Even the best professional pool players do not make as much as the lowliest pro golfers or baseball players. Still, the sport continues to attract men and women who dream of being the next best player in the world. Most wind up broke in old age. I love the sport but, fortunately, I have a good-paying job and I limit my pool playing to local tournaments and occasional cash games with people I know. Pool may be considered by the masses as a game for hustlers, but many famous people, including Abraham Lincoln and Mark Twain owned pool tables and playing regularly.
You are right, but the very best do make a very good living. The 2 other sports you cite are supported by the masses. And pool isn’t a sport it’s a game of skill. Golf also isn’t a sport. The meaning of the word sport is subjective because athlete comes into the mix.
Look at snooker and the very best are wealthy. This is a game like chess. But skill and knowledge play a very big part.
@@garywright9715 In my view, a sport is any competitive event that requires at least one of two physical attributes: athleticism and/or hand-eye coordination. Most of the purest sports contain an equal balance of the two, but some are further to one end of the scale. Darts, for example is 100% hand-eye coordination, whereas the 100-meter dash is 100% athleticism. Both are sports, as are billiards and golf. If you've ever seen Judd Trump play snooker, you'd know that it does have an element of athleticism as well (albeit mostly hand-eye coordination). By this definition, golf, archery, billiards and so on are sports, but things like poker and chess are not. They are games. Games are competitive and require strategy, but they require no athleticism or hand-eye coordination.
@@JapanDan144 Well described man. The issue appears sometimes in my solitary moments of contemplation and couldn't have put it any better.
@@garywright9715 Sport is the set of motor activities that engage - at a competitive or exercise level - the psychophysical abilities of the athlete, who carries out a discipline for amateur or professional purposes. BILLIARDS and GOLF ARE SPORTS. CHESS AND CARDS ARE GAMES.
@@roccocicoria4888 I completely disagree. Sport can be taken as competition. Therefore all games can be included. Depends on one’s definition. Are all games of skill devoid of athletisism considered sport? The definition of sport is subjective I guess. I just look at sport as having to have athletic ability as a large ingredient. And brains and tactics as part of the package. My opinion.
Awesome footage, thanks so much
wow amazing video thanks for sharing. I love danny dilberto's commentary on accustats videos, awesome to see him in a video from so long ago
I'm No Rollin' Colin and I approve this video Max.
Nice stuff Max! Thanks!
Thank you Max.I still have your cuemax stickers on my case and a t-shirt!
Frank Gregory That’s awesome man! Way back🤠
Great to watch!.. thanks👍🎱🇳🇿
Then one day along came Efren, and changed everything.
This is definitely a very cool clip though.
Found this looking for footage of George H Sutton the handless wonder. I love vintage pool footage. Playing in heavy suit coats. Had to be hot in there!
Always love the greatest players
Happy New year Max
Color of money - circa 1960
Good footage!
This is good stuff.
Luther has always been my favorite but great to see Danny dilaberto so young. Thanks
Thanks.
Wow, Bill "Weenie Beenie" Staton from Alexandria, Va. Home 👍❤
My home too.....all my life.
I played Weenie Beenie in Anchorage AK 15 years ago. He was damn strong!
@@michaelevan8725 I would love to have those skills and learn from a classic.
@@TEE78SR you can for sure! It's all about dedication. Time, energy, unending focus.
I played 9-ball against Moe Chaiman in Denver, in 1973, He spotted me the 8-ball, I beat him 2 games straight, and he quit me, LOL.
My Great Uncle should be in here! He was the best pool player in NYC for over 30 years!! His high run was over 300balls! He was known as the Masked Marvel!!
Michael Arbassio Cool! What was his name?
There were several men who played as The Masked Marvel at different times and cities. It was a Brunswick promotion - come to the pool hall and pay a buck or two to try to beat The Masked Marvel. Generally, they were great players who for whatever reason never became famous under their own name.
I watched the shot from Bill Staton at 1:33 about 10 times and still have no idea how he saw the shot or the action that sent the 8 to the pocket. I am pretty skilled but nothing compared to an old school shooter like these guys. Very interesting. My dad was a very good player and met a guy from St Louis they called "patch" . He had one eye with a patch over the other . The guy drained a lot of people's wallets from what I hear.
I didn't know this footage wasn't out there. I have several matches from this tournament on DVD. I have had them for years. I also have a color 20 minute tutorial with Mosconi from 1962. A bunch of other stuff to not on RUclips. Maybe I should upload them.
Martin Kuhn you should!
Please do we would be very grateful
Heck yes please do!!!
Yes sir you should ⚜️👍
@@choppacity4348 It's on VHS. I am not sure how to.
"Pocket's that mark the difference between a pool player and a bum!" LMAO! 02:52
Hahaha right!
The Music Man reference was amazing.
Nice!
Nice double bank to win it..
Luther was the best 9 ball player that ever lived
@0:01 Max Eberle presents? You mean ABC World of Sports presents lol. All this footage is available in ABC archives (and about 3 other videos on youtube before this one was even uploaded).
ABC world of sports did all the work and recording LOL
Heck yeah ...
A lot of string players come out of North Carolina 💪
Would have loved to see Wimpy play Efren, Hey, I can dream cant I?
Hey Mad Max lol
As thankful as I am to be able to watch this on video, allowing ABC to film this event was not smart. It brought in the IRS, outted all the hustlers abs destroyed the ability to have the event in the future. All in all, it wasn't worth the money ABC paid to get filming permission. There was 100x as much money rolling around there.
Max... Where are you from? Awesome to see that place again! It looks bigger on TV. What I can't figure out is that McKay seems to be walking in to what is now the club house at the golf course. The bar (Jansco's) that Fats had the tourney at, in the 70's, was across the HWY. It became Hurley's show bar... Now it is a furniture store... Cool history
I’m from Dover, Ohio originally and grew up in Arlington, Virginia.
I wanna get the cash. How do I get out with the cash...because I wanna play for cash...sure...trophies are nice but what can I do with a trophy? Dust it, put it on my mantle but I don't wanna be a tournament player...I want the cash. I nearly died playing a drinking game using the word "cash" now that I'm still alive...I want the cash. How can I hustle pool and be a winner? (I hope people get my references to what I believe is an infamous video) Thanks for the upload..love these videos.
Pretty boy floyd
All these guys are gone? 💀
There is a story, probably true, that I remember reading, about an era in which a TV network looked to support pool, much as it was supporting big-money bowling tourneys. Pool at the time was a popular but poorly paid skill game like bowling. Unfortunately for all future pool players, the hustlers got together at the first big event supported by TV, and decided to split the prize money their way, instead of following the rules dictated by the network sponsor. When the shady trick was discovered the TV producers felt that the players were in effect cheating, and that would eventually be discovered, and come back to hurt the network. The producers decided to never support pool tournaments on network TV again. That happened about fifty years ago, and to this day you'd have a hard time finding pool on any network or cable TV channel, except for pay-view streaming internet wildcatters.
Not fifty years ago--more like 30+. Allegedly, it was the year a beloved Hall of Famer "dogged" the straight-in eight ball stop shot for the nine and the win.
Not a proud episode in our sport's history.
how come none of these really old matches end with links to mOre really old matches? ~these games are the ones to watch... to learn. mostly, SVB is great, and Gorst, and like Mika, etc.. but hey, they're aFter...
The real question is: whatever happened to barrell jumping?
Lol
The pickle company took back their barrels.
How about a double bank to take down the tournament. Phew
0:58 does anyone know how hard or soft the tip is to pull this shot off? Always wanted to learn to do this type of shot. Thank you🙏
I would think you could do it with either.
@@digitalbookworm5678 hmm I’ll have to give it a try to see. Thanks for the comment!
@@stevenm6200 After thinking about it - Slamming down onto the table after the ball could cause some mushrooming of too soft of a tip. 😕
Either, but I prefer a hard tip. Just make sure that it’s very well scuffed up and chalked properly, obviously.
@@digitalbookworm5678- consider that Florian “Venom” Koeller has a Massé Cue with an Elk Master tip. In my honest opinion, a softer tip grips better.
Cornbread Red.
cool to see this old footage unburied! I think these guys woulda been broke if they had to play chohan orcullo etc though...
dan fairbanks not sure about that . The grew up hungry and no air conditioner and could play for days on the natural ! Grinders !
@@TonyB4679 although Efren talking with SVB on one of those backroom interview things tells of playing money when there was standing water up to nearly the table bed. I think the guys on this clip are not really up to todays standards. Standards in sport are always rising it seems like to me. Im just a banger so...…..for what it's not worth.
@ Got to see Boston Shorty play live a number of times (once in an exhibition against Willie Mosconi around 1970). He was a terrific player, but nowhere near as good a straight pool player as a Mosconi or a Lassiter. Larry was a one pocket specialist, one of the best at that game which is a tough game to play and even harder to watch because of all the safety play. So Lassiter beat Shorty at Shorty's specialty here. Lassiter was one of the best players who ever lived at straight pool and the first really great nine ball player (he was the first great player who really understood nine ball when it first became popular in the 60's). Wimpy was nearly 50 here and past his absolute prime, but still probably the best all around player in the world at that point. No one who ever lived would have had an easy time with Lassiter at any game when he was in his prime. You're forgetting that in the 40's and 50's when Lassiter was in his prime, pool was much more popular than nowadays (people had no television, they went to pool halls and they were plentiful, nowadays I have a 25 mile drive to the nearest hall, even in the 60's I had a number within walking distance of where I lived). And Lassiter was a famous hustler in the 40's and 50's who would play knowing he had to win because he didn't have the money to pay if he lost at times. There are a lot of great players today and the best would be a problem certainly for any of the players from the past. But Lassiter was up to the standards of today's best players and in his prime would have challenged any of them. Lassiter was arguably the best nine ball player ever (with Reyes, Sigel, Strickland, Van Boening and maybe one or two others in the conversation) and also one of the very best straight pool players ever.
nice footage, loved it
Consider the equipment they had to play with (including the thick, nappy cloth) as well as playing in suits and ties and you begin to get a sense of how great they actually were. Although the pockets were bigger then, the equipment offsets that issue and pocketing balls and runouts are the same back then as they are today. It isn't like a physical type of activity or sport such as football or basketball, etc, where the players got bigger, stronger and better nutrition and training and that would certainly make a difference. Although you can still argue that the general toughness and tenacity of the older era players like Brown, Butkus and Karras may carry them through playing against bigger, current era players. I think guys like Lawrence Taylor would dominate in any era however.
But in pool, physicality doesn't come into play... other than endurance to play long matches and the players seen here basically lived in the pool rooms so they definitely had the endurance and the cue skills as well.
Damn I see why Boston Shorty keeps losing. Wtf was he thinking after b n giving a point after the scratch ? Geez 🙄
FE 💚☺️
Somebody plz replicate all them shots
Why tf would shorty take the left side of the table after wimpy scratched ? All the balls are on the right side of the table 🤷♂️
He had no choice. lol
Maybe that used to be the old way of playing one pocket
@@rhyschen nope... he just got it wrong. forgivable though, these guys were used to covering "Barrel Jumping"
Wimpy!!
interesting. jim McKay doesn't inject any political commentary or allusion of any sort. That wouldn't happen today. Did anyone see those guys on ESPN come down on tiger woods like rabid jackals for saying that he respects the office of the president of the united states? and that was during a routine sports commentary.
aardvaark069 It was a different era that’s for sure. I didn’t see that about Tiger, sounds like the spineless jellyfish jumped on him.
Max, additionally, the world of pool went from having to be extremely talented playing straight pool, to the banger culture of 9-ball. I know that will bring a load of whining, but tell me how many players in the history of the game besides Mosconi could have run 524 straight balls. Try that in practice and tell me how far you get!!
I Hate one pocket cause it's SO Boring, I know everybody's going to say it's about strategy, defense, etc... it's still boring to watch!
To motorsickle bum mosconni ran 526 in straight pool a record thats never been broken you havent watched much pool
long live willie m
John Schmidt beat it recently.
@@justforlaughs7528 What is noteworthy would be that John Schmidt made it his mission in life to beat that record; he played ad nauseam for a year to achieve this goal. While, as legend has it, Mosconi simply got tired and went home when he could of kept going.
"I never did miss, I got tired and quit."
- Willie Mosconi (In reference to his 526.)
There are also rumors that Mosconi missed a few balls and kept shooting. I take both runs for what they are at face value, which is damn good pool.
The stroke mechanics of these old timers was absolutely awful! And honestly this was pretty bad playing. not sure if was nerves or what but they both played like average pool league players in this video. pretty astounding, but it still really enjoy watching this old stuff.
Invisible Lint removal move at 7:29!!!
Much ❤ bro