I really like Orijen I use the exact ones you showed. A 22 pound bag lasts me almost 2 months for a 60 pound Australian Shepherd. ***Remember it’s more nutrient dense than the cheaper stuff, so you feed less. I feed my boy about 1 1/2 cups/ day. He’s doing great. He loves the food. You can actually smell the difference- smells like food. Yes, it’s expensive, but I’d rather pay for the food, than pay vets. I do without something else to buy it. I don’t work for Orijen or get paid to say nice things about this food(I wish). It took me awhile to find a good kibble. My dog’s coat is beautiful- thick and shiny. That tell’s me a lot.
I feed my yorkie Orijen puppy for now. I use the topper and she love the tundra. As long as everything stay consistent I will continue to stay with Orijens. Price don’t matter. If I can eat good everyday my dog can too
We feed our Rottweiler (5 Months) and Cane Corso (3 Months) the Orijen Puppy Large Breed and they absolutely love it.... When you open the bag, you can smell that it is different than all other kibbles.... thanks for diving into the ingredients!
I've used Diamond, Victor Pro and Inukshuk. Diamond and victor he kept getting a bad allergic reaction to it. He didn't a bad reaction to Inukshuk and wasn't eating as much. But when I put him on Orijen all of that skin problems went away and he loves it.
I’m not only concerned about the ingredients in the kibble, but how it’s processed. Unless the bag states it’s oven baked, it’s extruded. I prefer to give my dogs the least processed foods I can. And I and Love and You is a brand that offers oven baked kibble prepared in small batches, and the ingredients are really good as well. I also like that it’s coated in dehydrated bone broth, which encourages adding water to the kibble and making it tastier for my pups. I have mixed it with freeze-dried raw to boost the protein content, as kibble will usually have more carbs than anything else. I am slowly getting my dog off dry food tho - and I am switching to a mix of dehydrated and freeze-dried raw.
I live on a farm with a few different houses on it. My dog had puppies a year ago and 2 of them stayed with me and 1 went with my friend out here. He feeds his a Costco grain free brand, my 2 have always been on orijin original and tundra. They are significantly larger than the other puppy. Idk if that means anything but it's worth noting.
Definitely agree Fam raw will always be my number one choice but this is perfect for the pet owner with one maybe two dogs cause it’s definitely better healthier for a kibble but I see the price is high obviously they have a way better product and it does cost for better ingredients for sure …. And if you want more time with your pet always try and give the best quality anything….and let’s get those likes and shares up Fam definitely worth the content 💯💯💯
Thank you for posting this video. I agree orejin is expensive but it’s definitely high quality kibble. You feed less of this kibble because it’s higher quality. And for my pups I add home cooked food to their diet daily with their kibble.
Both Orijen and Acana were acquired by Mars Inc. You can bet quality will go down to allow for bigger profits. I like to use the salt divider when checking ingredients. Anything listed AFTER salt is less than 1% of that ingredient in the bag. Synthetic vitamins are all very iffy and unfortunately only a couple brands out there don't use them, Carna4 and Natures logic. If you can't feed raw and have to feed kibble those are the best two options.
They already did. Whenever you see a brand changing its packaging, it's never only for the sake of having something new/fresh for our eyes. They also changed their formula
this happened to me. a month and a half ago my boys' stomaches were in such bad shape. got refunded and turned to Carna4. I'm convinced Carna 4 really outshines champion pet food...
@@OldskoolHiFi. I woke up one of my boys who had completely turned his kennel into a swamp. He was so embarrassed and ashamed that he didn’t hold it in over night. After that both my dog’s rear ends were faucets for a week. After vet fees, stool samples, anti biotics, just to hear that there was no infection or nothing to diagnose. It had to be diet related. After the probiotics, I gave them another scoop of Orijen. And the diarrhea returned. So Orijen was definitely the cause.
Quality must have already been affected 😭 nothing has changed in the last couple of months but my huskies' skin has freaked out! He is so itchy and sore all of a sudden and the only culprit seems to be his food. I'm so bummed because Orijen used to be the only thing to work for him and now it isn't.
Actually I've been feeding my boy Orijen for a few years now, I do switch around, that 22 lb bag lasts about 5 weeks, he eats 2 cups a day 65 lb Olde English Bulldogge
Orijen is the best aside from feeding raw. Also, I notice you’re selecting the bags that say Amazing Grains. They have grain- free versions where more than half those ingredients are not in it. Making it much healthier. Yes, it’s a little pricey but Petco has a program where you buy 9 bags and get a free 10th bag. Also, it’s all about how important your dogs health is to you I suppose. I feed my two cats and XL bully Orijen wet and dry food. Wet in the morning, dry at night. You should check out the ingredients of the wet food as well. All in all, it runs me about $250 a month to feed two cats and an XL bully an exclusively Orijen diet.
There we go Raul! We been waiting on it. I do feel that orijen is the best kibble out there but the price kills it. Who can afford to feed one dog at 3-400 bucks a month. That's INSANE!
@Gouda217 1 bag lasts me 3 weeks (4 cups a day) The food is so rich, the portions are smaller. Still ridiculously expensive. If I had more than 1 dog I’d definitely pick something less expensive.
@@gouda2177 9 month old male XL that’s currently 90 lbs. There’s literally a guide on the bag and on Orijen’s website that tells you how much kibble to feed a puppy according to how much the puppy weighs. 4 cups at day once they’re at 65 lbs. or more and the bag lasts 3 weeks. I’m assuming you feed your dogs some trash kibble so you have to give them a lot more food to make up the nutritional difference.
I feed my 70lb dog with origin and a bag last him 3 weeks. His vet says he's at the perfect weight too. Also the normal bag of orijen is $90 which helps.
One 120 pound presa canario will through one 22 pound of orijen, in about 20-25 days, just shy of a month. I made the switch to essence because it's a 25 pound bag, and priced about the same; maybe even better quality as well, it's just hard to find.
If you think that’s expensive, then don’t look at how much the Orijen Tundra! It’s still made in Canada and not in KY. There very best dog food but it’s a $140
I think if one were feeding raw, this dog food might not be a bad option if they had to board their dogs, were traveling, or were in a situation like the hurricanes hitting Florida, where getting actual raw might be difficult or inconvenient. Acana is also an option, similar ingredient panel as Orijen, but a little bit cheaper.
You can freeze dry the food, or buy the ingredients freeze dried so they can eat more normally. Feeding a dog or human foods their body is not used to during stressful situation would cause more stress… and digestion issues.
I have seven large dogs. I try to feed them the best I can afford. Right now it's evolve salmon and sweet potato. If you have any suggestions I will appreciate it.
Can confirm that the Orijen 6 fish ingredients has changed. The mackerel and herring are the same, but the salmon has been replaced by a higher amount of monkfish, pilchard has been replaced by Acadian red fish, whole hake has been added. And thats just the start.
WATSUP! Love the vids bud! So my American Bully is Standard Lilac TRI great pedigree..dual registered.. amazing bloodline. He is 5 just turned 5. I have had to go through so much cash and headaches to find him a great food man oh man. Before I bought him I planned on feeding him raw and I did but I didn't have the best insight on how to do so I started switching it up buying store bought Instinct brand Raw..that got expensive and it sucked having to unthaw beforehand and I began to believe it was dangerous. Anyways I switched from kibble to kibble throughout the years landed on bullymax for 2 years then after more research I didn't feel he was getting the best so I switched to honest kitchen which he loved but no gains actually lost weight switched to Stella and Chewy kibble got some weight gain but he was losing that super dope shiny coat and was getting those teary eyes more often. Just made the switch to Orijen w grains and no more teary eyes great soft coat amazing color is back but still am not seeing gains. But I love this kibble and I make my own topper (Organic bone broth, organic pumpkin, EVOO, a lil tumeric, a lil black pepper, and a lil cinnamon) I heat it then let it cool down to pour over kibble. I'd love to hear any advice or comments you would have for me and also would it be safe and would I see gains if I started giving him the NuVet pills I see in your vids? I want you to understand I am not in the breeding game I just absolutely love my bully and want him to live a very healthy Lifestyle and a long life. With feeding him Orijen and my homemade topper he's getting a great nutrition in my opinion and zinc is the only additive In orijen.. I'm saying this bc I don't want to have too much of a good thing by adding the supplement from NuVet you recommend. You think? Thanks bull fam for your contribution to our Bully society!!! 🤜🤛 P.S. Has any of your dogs experienced INTERDIGITAL CYSTS?...it's like swelling between the front paw toes. My vet prescribed cephalexin and I used it when he was still on Stella Raw coated kibble but since I switched to Orijen they seem to have gotten noticeably better but not gone. Any advice?
Raul Quick Question Spoke to a Worker at Petco He suggested Whole Hearted For my 4month old female Amstaff Said it was more affordable and uncompromised What’s your suggestion for the kibble?? S
my Olde English Bulldogge/Staffordshire terrier mix make is on the 6 fish, with some Bully Max & joint supplements. We cook chicken livers,gizzard ,whole whole raw egg, sweet potato & mix with the orijen. My dogs 52lbs of pure action. Hits a sleeve like a 100lb American Bulldog. He's been on it his whole life. Perfect coat & a high drive athletic dog. But it cost me probably about 500 a month to feed him & 2 patterdale /Manchester mixes. I have no kids. I got multiple streams of income & so does my wife so it is what it is. What I spend in feed & supplements I save 10 fold in vet bills
I started my bully off on this and I could tell you I’ve never seen a dog look better on feed, his stool is A1, coat A1, energy off the chain. Acana is cheaper and is the same ingredients.
Raw is def best way to go. I watched my dogs energy levels deplete when he is on kibble. He sleeps better with raw and he stool is not difficult for him.
We recently switched to Acana High Protein/Single Kibble. 6 of the flavors are completely chicken free. It has a high caloric content with very few fillers, so we add sweet potatoe, Rice, and some beef liver too, Along with a multivitamin.
Be advised--Champion Petfoods who produce Acana was sold to Mars 'Petcare' in November 2022. Mars makes some of the worst pet 'food' on the market. Re Acana/Orijen, Mars will almost certainly be moving to increase sales, and reduce costs. I would keep a close eye on their quality moving forward. I have stopped using all Champion products permanently.
Orijen/Acana have already started cheapening the product…sad…$$$$$$ Recently the makers of Zignature - Pet Global- began making Essence…low heat like Orijen…high protein, excellent produce…I have switched to this…🥰
Regional Red kibble says ideal for "Large breed" I have a active Amstaff who is about 55~60# and extremely lean. He needs the extra protein and fat because of the physical exercise. Is this the wrong kibble since he is technically under the recommend 70# minium? If I feed the proper amount for his size (40-60# ratio) is there any foreseeable issues? **I was on Wellness brand fish but I'm not happy with the carbs and ingredients and the 21% protein isn't enough for his activity level**
A 22 lb bag of Orijen is NOT the same as a 22 lb bag of other kibble. Orijen is way more nutrient dense, so you dog has to eat less kibble to get the same calories and nutrients. If you fed your 100 lb dog that entire 22lb bag of Orijen every week, your dog is going to get fat as hell, haha. Keep that in mind when you're looking at the pricing versus cheaper kibble with lots of filler.
Orijen had my dog smelly. Her poop and breath was foul. She has a very sensitive digestive system. She is allergic to poultry and potato. The food worked for her but I had to stop. Switched to wholehearted beef and pea. She loves it! No allergies anymore and gained weight.
mars also owns royal canine, which is one of the 5 WSAVA approved foods that everyone now claims are the best, so i dont think just because Mars bought out champion immediately means you need to stop using their foods. Personally, i am switching to Orijen amazing grains from the original that has some possible links to DCM with the peas/lentils. Seems to be the best of boths worlds. Keep the Orijen quality, eliminate the ingredients controversy.
Ive kept bullys for 20 years and for a long time diamond was my go too but as of late i been using Victor and my dogs love it also used taste of wild all good in my opinion but sure theres better out there
What do you think about Bullymax? Been feeding my dog that for a few months but since I’ve gotten her, she sheds like crazy and not sure what to change 😩 she’s 7 months
Please do a bag of Muenster millings ocean fish. I believe it’s the best kibble brand only sold in their company not in local stores. And underrated because ppl don’t actually do their research. They also provides customize add ons of your choice. Probiotics/coconut /salmon oil etc.
I feed my mini Alaskan Klee Kai the Orijen grain-free Regional Red kibble, mixed with Instinct grain free canned food. He loves this food. Thank God he only weighs 14 lbs…! He only eats 3.5-4 ounces of food twice a day. ❤
My Klee Kai didn’t like Orijen for some reason. Basically tried all the brands tbh. Gonna try carna4 or essence. I tried doing frozen raw and freeze dried but it’s so pricey even though my standard is 18lbs
Raw is best but if you doing kibble feed from lowest to high valu pack black bag ,diamond, purina, victor these all used mostly for sporting dogs that are active but all of them good feed I know most bully breeders go for bulk
Been waiting for this video Fam! I feed the Origen Tundra unfortunately it’s $129 a bag. I refuse to feed any other kibble till I can get him back on raw. I fed him raw 8 weeks to 3 years then C19 hit. He’s only 60lbs and goes through 1 1/2 bag a month. He has serious allergies and gulps everything which has led to a few scares so I’m looking for a grinder before switching back.
Regional Red use to have Bison in it but it got dropped. rumor has it they are going to drop the wild boar also which to me doesn't make it worth the price then. I will use it until then.
Orijen is much more dense than others. 100lb dog get 2 1/3 cups per day. The food last just as long if not longer. Great for grazing dogs too who don’t eat a lot.
Re your comments on feeding Orijen to a 100 lb dog--to say that a 22.5 lb bag would last 1 week is WAY off the mark. A 22.5 lb bag contains around 88.5 cups of food. Using that bag in a week would be feeding over 12 cups a day. The recommended feeding guideline is around 4 cups/day for a 100 lb dog depending on activity level. A 22.5 lb will last a 100lb dog around 3.5 weeks. I fed Orijen for years, but have dropped all Champion products since their sellout to Mars 'Petcare'. I now feed a 50/50 mix of First Mate dry, and Big Country Raw.
Been feeding Orijen for years now, the new with grains versions are amazing. The big bag last me quite some time probably because I mix with Inukshuk and Victor and my dog eats 2 cups of kibble once a day. I really like Puppy, but R.Red, Six Fish, and Tundra are all great. Definitely wish it was cheaper.
I noticed you pointed out tocopherols in the ingredients. It's in pretty much every dog food and treats as a natural preservative. What's the issue with it?
Tocopherols (vitamin E family) are antioxidants used to slow down spoilage in dog food. It’s natural and commonly known to be safe in consideration to artificial preservatives such as ethoxyguin, butylated hydroxyanisole, butylated hydroxytoluene, etc
I have a 100 lb DDR Shepherd as a working dog. She has been fed Orijen all her life. She will be 10 years old in a couple of months but you wouldn't know it by her health and energy level. She only eats 2 cups of this food daily which means a 28 lb bag last for about 5 weeks, so I believe your estimate of 4 bags monthly is a bit off. You can find Orijen at much cheaper prices at other businesses. I only pay $87/bag for Orijen Fit & Trim. Unfortunately, since Mars has acquired this food, I will be switching because they will more than likely change to less desirable and cheaper ingredients. PLeASE READ: I no longer feed Orijen. The family-run company has now been sold to Mars. I have now switched to a different brand.
I can't believe your 100lb dog only eats 2 cups a day...my 65 lb pit eats 3 cups a day of the Orijen Puppy in the purple bag, plus he usually gets a chicken foot in the evening and maybe some yogurt with blueberries. He also gets raw, meaty bones about twice per week. He's not overweight at all.
@@ThatFatMom Whether you believe me or not, she eats 2 cups a day. She'll be 10 years old this month and she's been eating like that ever since she became an adult.
Thank you soooo much you are everything to me for my dog, it's been about 6 weeks now ive been on your channel seeking and gaining knowledge. Thanks ZSIMAH PRESSURE will for sure be PRESSURE PRESSURE through your teachings BLESS YOU, SHE watches too
If you have time in your day, I’d love to get your thoughts on the Victor High Energy Beef Recipe (Red Bag). It’s a perfect 24/20. But I’m not quite as good as dissecting ingredients as you are.
Thought 💭 I would answer your question. I would personally switch to a high natural meat ingredient, such as Orijin, Farmina N&D, Essence, Carna4, Nutrisource Element, etc. The quality of ingredients and formula is based on a natural sources.
Man an other great video. I would like to tank you for the Barf diet video that you made and basically save my dog. We cannot process any starches self diagnose trough trail and error my vet simply robed me out of 3000 $ with no diagnose . Now we are on raw beef only and we are saved. The dog gained weight we had almost instant miraculous recovery and we follow your recommendation of 5% body mass. The dog consumes slightly above 3 pounds of raw beef a day including bone marrow when available no bones just meat and this is it nothing else my vet try to sell me vitamins for " balanced diet" I asked her how often does wolf in the wild take vitamins ?
Well I will say wolves in the wild along with all predators do take vitamins in the form of liver from the prey that they eat. Unfortunately today a lot of our meats and poultry have been treated with hormones and such. So if you like to add a multivitamin which I recommend follow this link: www.nuvet.com/513237 if not you can try any other multivitamin for that matter.
"100lb dog would go through a 22lb bag in about a week"......LoL! C'mon man, I know you are against kibble, but that bag would last a month at the minimum if you are feeding according to the recommended amount from the manufacturer. Most people vastly overfeed their pets, so, stick to the recommendation and exercise your sweet babies! Now with that said, I have no doubt that feeding your dogs a raw diet that you put together is better overall than kibble. But, those of us who are trained K9 Handlers (former Gov't K9 Handler here) can attest that all of the Gov't dogs are on kibble, and they are straight up athletes, working harder than most people do every week, and they thrive on kibble and live long happy/healthy lives. This kibble looks amazing IMHO and I might just give it a try at some point. I'm currently switching to Open Farm GoodBowl, which isn't as top end as the Orijen, but it's very high quality for about half the price.
Eve thing I’ve seen here in Canada feeding raw is over $300 a month but I’ve also been told they only need to eat once a day on raw. It just seems complicated
It's a great kibbles but the proteins are too high breeders say that vet say that I don't know as a raw diet feeding chicken is cheaper if you add beef it's not.
Definately chicken is cheaper than beef. 38% protein is high IMO but you can add sweet potatoe, carrots to bring that number down for example. I bring those 2 up as they appear in the barf diet video at the end.
Really sucks that orijen got bought out by mars… I feed my German shepherd and yellow lab orijen original grain free and a little bit of acana with grains. Will be buying my last 3 bags tomorrow and then switching to a raw diet.
From my understanding DCM is caused by Grain Free Diet. These are legumes you mention and actually I don’t see the link. Unless you’ve read or know something I don’t. Please share.
Man I saw this food that was in a Walmart fridge and it had 14% crude protein and 11% crude fat. All the ingredients were natural. Not sure how good is that.
Acana is made by orijen as well.... and if you look at feeding guide lines you can see that you dont have to feed them as much as other kibbles.. almost cuts the portion in half
I think Acana bought Oirjen and from review the recipe has changed because of it within the last yr besides the regional red still get stuff from Canada farm. I mix small bag as topper with victor
@@jaylew651 Acana and Orijen were both under Champion foods a Canadian company and they recently sold out to Mars Inc. They changed the production process and recipes to enable more profit. It's not the same high quality food anymore, but they kept the price up because nobody is really aware of the buyout. If you are in the US the food comes from a new production facility in Kentucky, the rest of the world still gets it from Canada.
@@OldskoolHiFi my dogs have been on Acana and Orijen for almost 8 years now, and I have not seen any change with there appetite . I’m in Canada so not sure if it makes a difference 🤷🏼♀️. Canada has a higher standard for their dog food’s. I had tried “Open Farms” brand and they liked it as well, but it’s a bit more expensive.
@@annawell2517 It's very possible nothing changed for you, it's my understanding that the US residents are getting their food from a new plant in Kentucky, where the same Canadian standards are not being upheld. I would still keep a close eye on the food ingredients and how your dogs respond.
Those brands have to make their money and balance out cost. Along the way of course sacrificing quality. Best bet is to learn what is best for your dog. I know not everyone likes to prep raw food but it’s an undefeated option. Just like home cooking vs fast food.
Found out my breeding pair of APBT , are having 9 puppies today ..going to make the switch from zignature to this for mom and Pops and check out the puppy stuff ..i live in Alaska so i promise its møte here Lol
@@QBNKennel you bet ! I have a quick question as far as how involved I need to be when the actual birthing happens , i have been ready and researching for a few weeks , but nothing compares to actually breeder advice and experience, o don't mind paying for your time fam..I'm a huge fan and watcher of the channel , thank you for all you do for the bully community for real 💪
@@QBNKennel 120$ for the non fish blend... Also my female had her litter this morning ..10 healthy pups..momma did so good , and she swallowed the whole bowl of the new food ..loved it, its the new kibble in my house now..idc about the price
Hey I enjoy your channel I’m a Cane Corso guy. Check out and review Farmina it’s a good foods as well it’s pricey and rich it’s also a small bag. But I think you’ll be surprised about the quality.
My female Cane Corso Jade just turned 1 in Aug she’s 107lbs lean she eats 4 measuring cups a day. It may last a month or just shy. You won’t have to feed as much with food like Farmina and Orjien.
If you're properly feeding your dog raw, it'll never be cheaper than kibble. It'll always be significantly more expensive. Don't get me wrong, raw is better. But financially speaking, if you're not going to feed raw spend the money on a quality kibble.
I really like Orijen I use the exact ones you showed. A 22 pound bag lasts me almost 2 months for a 60 pound Australian Shepherd.
***Remember it’s more nutrient dense than the cheaper stuff, so you feed less. I feed my boy about 1 1/2 cups/ day. He’s doing great. He loves the food. You can actually smell the difference- smells like food. Yes, it’s expensive, but I’d rather pay for the food, than pay vets. I do without something else to buy it. I don’t work for Orijen or get paid to say nice things about this food(I wish). It took me awhile to find a good kibble. My dog’s coat is beautiful- thick and shiny. That tell’s me a lot.
My dog loves it too and her coat is so shinny. You are so right about using less because of the amount of protein.
I feed my yorkie Orijen puppy for now. I use the topper and she love the tundra. As long as everything stay consistent I will continue to stay with Orijens. Price don’t matter. If I can eat good everyday my dog can too
We feed our Rottweiler (5 Months) and Cane Corso (3 Months) the Orijen Puppy Large Breed and they absolutely love it.... When you open the bag, you can smell that it is different than all other kibbles.... thanks for diving into the ingredients!
Hands down best kibble out there. But it is still kibble when compared to Raw. Thank you for Sharing 🙏
@@QBNKennel Acana products are better.
@@omega8509 Acana and Orijen are from same manufacturer
Yes Orijen...Acana and Blue Buffalo are the best dog foods out there! 💯
@@omega8509 why do you belive that? Have you tried both? Perhaps your dog prefers the taste of it?
I've used Diamond, Victor Pro and Inukshuk. Diamond and victor he kept getting a bad allergic reaction to it. He didn't a bad reaction to Inukshuk and wasn't eating as much. But when I put him on Orijen all of that skin problems went away and he loves it.
It’s amazing how we make sure our dogs eat healthy and well stop at McDonald’s to feed ourselves.
So true! I've said that to people before. My dogs definitely eat better than me
I’m not only concerned about the ingredients in the kibble, but how it’s processed. Unless the bag states it’s oven baked, it’s extruded. I prefer to give my dogs the least processed foods I can. And I and Love and You is a brand that offers oven baked kibble prepared in small batches, and the ingredients are really good as well. I also like that it’s coated in dehydrated bone broth, which encourages adding water to the kibble and making it tastier for my pups. I have mixed it with freeze-dried raw to boost the protein content, as kibble will usually have more carbs than anything else. I am slowly getting my dog off dry food tho - and I am switching to a mix of dehydrated and freeze-dried raw.
How much more do you pay to feed the proper amount to your pups kibble vs dehydrated/freeze dried?
(Seriously wondering not being sarcastic)
I live on a farm with a few different houses on it. My dog had puppies a year ago and 2 of them stayed with me and 1 went with my friend out here. He feeds his a Costco grain free brand, my 2 have always been on orijin original and tundra. They are significantly larger than the other puppy. Idk if that means anything but it's worth noting.
I believe Orijin is one of the best dry kibbles available, nevertheless there are a few other good kibbles out there.
@@CrownedImperialPocketBullies ok which ones
It must have something to do with the fact you live on a farm with a few different houses on it.
One bag of Orijen Amazing grains last my 85pd Dobie 25 days. It is so much easier to have 3 months of food stocked up with Orijen just incase SHTF
I’ve always fed my bully and my cane corso Orijen and Acana. Love them
Definitely agree Fam raw will always be my number one choice but this is perfect for the pet owner with one maybe two dogs cause it’s definitely better healthier for a kibble but I see the price is high obviously they have a way better product and it does cost for better ingredients for sure …. And if you want more time with your pet always try and give the best quality anything….and let’s get those likes and shares up Fam definitely worth the content 💯💯💯
I agree brother 💪🏽💯🙏
Great brand! I usually get Orijen or Farmina N&D(usually prefer Farmina). I usually mix it with Orijens wet food
Those dog’s eating GOOD 👍 both brands I like as well
Salute Raul, fam you dropped another jewel video. I feed my Rotties Purina Pro Plan Sport Performance 30/20 I add egg, yogurt and green tripe.
Ahhhh that green tripe man. Good stuff 💪🏽💯
Yo my guy took my suggestion to check out the products I recommended nice work keep it up
This platform is about all of you. Thank You for the suggestion 🙏
Thank you for posting this video. I agree orejin is expensive but it’s definitely high quality kibble. You feed less of this kibble because it’s higher quality. And for my pups I add home cooked food to their diet daily with their kibble.
Both Orijen and Acana were acquired by Mars Inc. You can bet quality will go down to allow for bigger profits. I like to use the salt divider when checking ingredients. Anything listed AFTER salt is less than 1% of that ingredient in the bag. Synthetic vitamins are all very iffy and unfortunately only a couple brands out there don't use them, Carna4 and Natures logic. If you can't feed raw and have to feed kibble those are the best two options.
They already did. Whenever you see a brand changing its packaging, it's never only for the sake of having something new/fresh for our eyes. They also changed their formula
this happened to me. a month and a half ago my boys' stomaches were in such bad shape. got refunded and turned to Carna4. I'm convinced Carna 4 really outshines champion pet food...
@@hectorflores1544 I've heard that from a few people with the same experience as you. I feed a combo of Raw and Carna4 my dogs are worth the extra $$
@@OldskoolHiFi. I woke up one of my boys who had completely turned his kennel into a swamp. He was so embarrassed and ashamed that he didn’t hold it in over night. After that both my dog’s rear ends were faucets for a week. After vet fees, stool samples, anti biotics, just to hear that there was no infection or nothing to diagnose. It had to be diet related. After the probiotics, I gave them another scoop of Orijen. And the diarrhea returned. So Orijen was definitely the cause.
Quality must have already been affected 😭 nothing has changed in the last couple of months but my huskies' skin has freaked out! He is so itchy and sore all of a sudden and the only culprit seems to be his food. I'm so bummed because Orijen used to be the only thing to work for him and now it isn't.
Actually I've been feeding my boy Orijen for a few years now, I do switch around, that 22 lb bag lasts about 5 weeks, he eats 2 cups a day 65 lb Olde English Bulldogge
Orijen is the best aside from feeding raw. Also, I notice you’re selecting the bags that say Amazing Grains. They have grain- free versions where more than half those ingredients are not in it. Making it much healthier. Yes, it’s a little pricey but Petco has a program where you buy 9 bags and get a free 10th bag. Also, it’s all about how important your dogs health is to you I suppose. I feed my two cats and XL bully Orijen wet and dry food. Wet in the morning, dry at night. You should check out the ingredients of the wet food as well. All in all, it runs me about $250 a month to feed two cats and an XL bully an exclusively Orijen diet.
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There we go Raul! We been waiting on it. I do feel that orijen is the best kibble out there but the price kills it. Who can afford to feed one dog at 3-400 bucks a month. That's INSANE!
@Gouda217 1 bag lasts me 3 weeks (4 cups a day) The food is so rich, the portions are smaller. Still ridiculously expensive. If I had more than 1 dog I’d definitely pick something less expensive.
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@@jamilcostley1 3 weeks , what you have chihuahuas
@@gouda2177 9 month old male XL that’s currently 90 lbs. There’s literally a guide on the bag and on Orijen’s website that tells you how much kibble to feed a puppy according to how much the puppy weighs. 4 cups at day once they’re at 65 lbs. or more and the bag lasts 3 weeks. I’m assuming you feed your dogs some trash kibble so you have to give them a lot more food to make up the nutritional difference.
I feed my 70lb dog with origin and a bag last him 3 weeks. His vet says he's at the perfect weight too. Also the normal bag of orijen is $90 which helps.
One 120 pound presa canario will through one 22 pound of orijen, in about 20-25 days, just shy of a month. I made the switch to essence because it's a 25 pound bag, and priced about the same; maybe even better quality as well, it's just hard to find.
If you think that’s expensive, then don’t look at how much the Orijen Tundra! It’s still made in Canada and not in KY. There very best dog food but it’s a $140
I think if one were feeding raw, this dog food might not be a bad option if they had to board their dogs, were traveling, or were in a situation like the hurricanes hitting Florida, where getting actual raw might be difficult or inconvenient. Acana is also an option, similar ingredient panel as Orijen, but a little bit cheaper.
You can freeze dry the food, or buy the ingredients freeze dried so they can eat more normally. Feeding a dog or human foods their body is not used to during stressful situation would cause more stress… and digestion issues.
My Pup was 10 wks today, I'll start her on Raw in small portions tomorrow on the live. 🤞
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I have seven large dogs. I try to feed them the best I can afford. Right now it's evolve salmon and sweet potato. If you have any suggestions I will appreciate it.
Can confirm that the Orijen 6 fish ingredients has changed. The mackerel and herring are the same, but the salmon has been replaced by a higher amount of monkfish, pilchard has been replaced by Acadian red fish, whole hake has been added. And thats just the start.
WATSUP! Love the vids bud! So my American Bully is Standard Lilac TRI great pedigree..dual registered.. amazing bloodline. He is 5 just turned 5. I have had to go through so much cash and headaches to find him a great food man oh man. Before I bought him I planned on feeding him raw and I did but I didn't have the best insight on how to do so I started switching it up buying store bought Instinct brand Raw..that got expensive and it sucked having to unthaw beforehand and I began to believe it was dangerous. Anyways I switched from kibble to kibble throughout the years landed on bullymax for 2 years then after more research I didn't feel he was getting the best so I switched to honest kitchen which he loved but no gains actually lost weight switched to Stella and Chewy kibble got some weight gain but he was losing that super dope shiny coat and was getting those teary eyes more often. Just made the switch to Orijen w grains and no more teary eyes great soft coat amazing color is back but still am not seeing gains. But I love this kibble and I make my own topper (Organic bone broth, organic pumpkin, EVOO, a lil tumeric, a lil black pepper, and a lil cinnamon) I heat it then let it cool down to pour over kibble.
I'd love to hear any advice or comments you would have for me and also would it be safe and would I see gains if I started giving him the NuVet pills I see in your vids? I want you to understand I am not in the breeding game I just absolutely love my bully and want him to live a very healthy Lifestyle and a long life. With feeding him Orijen and my homemade topper he's getting a great nutrition in my opinion and zinc is the only additive In orijen.. I'm saying this bc I don't want to have too much of a good thing by adding the supplement from NuVet you recommend. You think? Thanks bull fam for your contribution to our Bully society!!! 🤜🤛 P.S. Has any of your dogs experienced INTERDIGITAL CYSTS?...it's like swelling between the front paw toes. My vet prescribed cephalexin and I used it when he was still on Stella Raw coated kibble but since I switched to Orijen they seem to have gotten noticeably better but not gone. Any advice?
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Quick Question
Spoke to a Worker at Petco
He suggested Whole Hearted
For my 4month old female Amstaff
Said it was more affordable and uncompromised
What’s your suggestion for the kibble??
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Haven’t used it
my Olde English Bulldogge/Staffordshire terrier mix make is on the 6 fish, with some Bully Max & joint supplements. We cook chicken livers,gizzard ,whole whole raw egg, sweet potato & mix with the orijen. My dogs 52lbs of pure action. Hits a sleeve like a 100lb American Bulldog. He's been on it his whole life. Perfect coat & a high drive athletic dog. But it cost me probably about 500 a month to feed him & 2 patterdale /Manchester mixes. I have no kids. I got multiple streams of income & so does my wife so it is what it is. What I spend in feed & supplements I save 10 fold in vet bills
Been refreshing RUclips ALL day long. Waiting for that Wednesday video!!
Lol, I hear you
I started my bully off on this and I could tell you I’ve never seen a dog look better on feed, his stool is A1, coat A1, energy off the chain. Acana is cheaper and is the same ingredients.
Thank you for Sharing Fam. Have to check those out.
It's the same company
@@thoroughbredbullterriers9039 yup the exact company.
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That's a scam bro he tried to get me too
What is the review of HALO-Elevate Kibble? Thay claim 90% +++protein, pricey but...Worth it??
Planning to feed raw as much as possible but nice to know there’s a kibble option. Thanks for reviewing!
Raw is def best way to go. I watched my dogs energy levels deplete when he is on kibble. He sleeps better with raw and he stool is not difficult for him.
We recently switched to Acana High Protein/Single Kibble. 6 of the flavors are completely chicken free. It has a high caloric content with very few fillers, so we add sweet potatoe, Rice, and some beef liver too, Along with a multivitamin.
Acana is the same company that makes Orijen
Love seeing breeders adding, testing and doing their own thing. Thank You For Sharing 💪🏽💯
@@QBNKennel 🙏It took about a year to finally figure out what works best for our dogs🙏
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Be advised--Champion Petfoods who produce Acana was sold to Mars 'Petcare' in November 2022. Mars makes some of the worst pet 'food' on the market. Re Acana/Orijen, Mars will almost certainly be moving to increase sales, and reduce costs. I would keep a close eye on their quality moving forward. I have stopped using all Champion products permanently.
Orijen/Acana have already started cheapening the product…sad…$$$$$$
Recently the makers of Zignature - Pet Global- began making Essence…low heat like Orijen…high protein, excellent produce…I have switched to this…🥰
Regional Red kibble says ideal for "Large breed" I have a active Amstaff who is about 55~60# and extremely lean. He needs the extra protein and fat because of the physical exercise. Is this the wrong kibble since he is technically under the recommend 70# minium? If I feed the proper amount for his size (40-60# ratio) is there any foreseeable issues?
**I was on Wellness brand fish but I'm not happy with the carbs and ingredients and the 21% protein isn't enough for his activity level**
A 22 lb bag of Orijen is NOT the same as a 22 lb bag of other kibble. Orijen is way more nutrient dense, so you dog has to eat less kibble to get the same calories and nutrients. If you fed your 100 lb dog that entire 22lb bag of Orijen every week, your dog is going to get fat as hell, haha. Keep that in mind when you're looking at the pricing versus cheaper kibble with lots of filler.
Orijen had my dog smelly. Her poop and breath was foul. She has a very sensitive digestive system. She is allergic to poultry and potato. The food worked for her but I had to stop. Switched to wholehearted beef and pea. She loves it! No allergies anymore and gained weight.
mars also owns royal canine, which is one of the 5 WSAVA approved foods that everyone now claims are the best, so i dont think just because Mars bought out champion immediately means you need to stop using their foods. Personally, i am switching to Orijen amazing grains from the original that has some possible links to DCM with the peas/lentils. Seems to be the best of boths worlds. Keep the Orijen quality, eliminate the ingredients controversy.
Orejen is not as quite as good as it used to be but its STILL TOP TIER! You want to go up from Orejen? Try Carna4.
hey boss how about puppy food? can you tell us what the best puppy food is
Ive kept bullys for 20 years and for a long time diamond was my go too but as of late i been using Victor and my dogs love it also used taste of wild all good in my opinion but sure theres better out there
What do you think about Bullymax? Been feeding my dog that for a few months but since I’ve gotten her, she sheds like crazy and not sure what to change 😩 she’s 7 months
Please do a bag of Muenster millings ocean fish. I believe it’s the best kibble brand only sold in their company not in local stores. And underrated because ppl don’t actually do their research. They also provides customize add ons of your choice. Probiotics/coconut /salmon oil etc.
I feed my mini Alaskan Klee Kai the Orijen grain-free Regional Red kibble, mixed with Instinct grain free canned food. He loves this food. Thank God he only weighs 14 lbs…! He only eats 3.5-4 ounces of food twice a day. ❤
My Klee Kai didn’t like Orijen for some reason. Basically tried all the brands tbh. Gonna try carna4 or essence. I tried doing frozen raw and freeze dried but it’s so pricey even though my standard is 18lbs
Raw is best but if you doing kibble feed from lowest to high valu pack black bag ,diamond, purina, victor these all used mostly for sporting dogs that are active but all of them good feed I know most bully breeders go for bulk
Thank you for the information I’m thinking about buying a bag for my dog ❤nuvet pet I getting next week
Acana is great too and is slightly more affordable. Both Acana and Orijen are acquired by Mars.
I feed k9 natural raw from nz, expensive but my girls love it ❤️
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Been waiting for this video Fam! I feed the Origen Tundra unfortunately it’s $129 a bag. I refuse to feed any other kibble till I can get him back on raw. I fed him raw 8 weeks to 3 years then C19 hit. He’s only 60lbs and goes through 1 1/2 bag a month. He has serious allergies and gulps everything which has led to a few scares so I’m looking for a grinder before switching back.
This definately makes sense Fam.
It's a scam bro they tried to get me too
@@thoroughbredbullterriers9039 Yeah these clowns think were dumb. Lol
@@thoroughbredbullterriers9039 what's a scam
Is sam's field a good brand?
I wish I found all this before I lost my bully to health issues ….i never realized the food issue
@@mikeodell5915 So sorry about your dog. I’m sure you gave him/her a happy life. That’s what counts.
I always soak my kibble in milk and raw eggs... I use core dog food? What ya think about that.... not sure how people afford raw
Raw is affordable. I like the eggs milk soaking not so much
Regional Red use to have Bison in it but it got dropped. rumor has it they are going to drop the wild boar also which to me doesn't make it worth the price then. I will use it until then.
Orijen is much more dense than others. 100lb dog get 2 1/3 cups per day. The food last just as long if not longer. Great for grazing dogs too who don’t eat a lot.
would you recommend the nujoint ds for puppies or should i stick to just the plus? i was going to get nujoint combined with the nuvet plus
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@@QBNKennel appreciate it brother
i used the puppy it's not bad but it doesn't put muscle or weight on like i wanted too
This is the kibble I feed my 2 dogs, I travel too much able to feed RAW anymore. Expensive but worth it to me!
And your argument is fair. Thank you for sharing 🙏
That's a scam bro don't reply
Carna4 I would say is one of the best. Baked with no synthetic vitamins
Wouldn't hole animals become meal after being ground up for kibble?
Re your comments on feeding Orijen to a 100 lb dog--to say that a 22.5 lb bag would last 1 week is WAY off the mark. A 22.5 lb bag contains around 88.5 cups of food. Using that bag in a week would be feeding over 12 cups a day. The recommended feeding guideline is around 4 cups/day for a 100 lb dog depending on activity level. A 22.5 lb will last a 100lb dog around 3.5 weeks. I fed Orijen for years, but have dropped all Champion products since their sellout to Mars 'Petcare'. I now feed a 50/50 mix of First Mate dry, and Big Country Raw.
Check your numbers. A cup has 8 oz. 22.5 Lbs has a total of 360 oz. When you divide 360 by 8 you get a grand total of 45 cups.
What do y'all think of From 4 star dog food?
What r ur thoughts on open farm or farmina?
We used to feed Victor until we found out about NutriSource. You can't find it in chain stores, only more local businesses
I feed my dog nutrisource. Similar ingredients to orijen.
What do you think about nutrience subzero Prairie red?
Been feeding Orijen for years now, the new with grains versions are amazing. The big bag last me quite some time probably because I mix with Inukshuk and Victor and my dog eats 2 cups of kibble once a day. I really like Puppy, but R.Red, Six Fish, and Tundra are all great. Definitely wish it was cheaper.
Yeah price is only draw back
I noticed you pointed out tocopherols in the ingredients. It's in pretty much every dog food and treats as a natural preservative. What's the issue with it?
Tocopherols (vitamin E family) are antioxidants used to slow down spoilage in dog food. It’s natural and commonly known to be safe in consideration to artificial preservatives such as ethoxyguin, butylated hydroxyanisole, butylated hydroxytoluene, etc
I have a 100 lb DDR Shepherd as a working dog. She has been fed Orijen all her life. She will be 10 years old in a couple of months but you wouldn't know it by her health and energy level. She only eats 2 cups of this food daily which means a 28 lb bag last for about 5 weeks, so I believe your estimate of 4 bags monthly is a bit off. You can find Orijen at much cheaper prices at other businesses. I only pay $87/bag for Orijen Fit & Trim. Unfortunately, since Mars has acquired this food, I will be switching because they will more than likely change to less desirable and cheaper ingredients.
PLeASE READ: I no longer feed Orijen. The family-run company has now been sold to Mars. I have now switched to a different brand.
Check out nutrisource element series. Similar ingredients to orijen. No legumes or potatoes. Thats what i feed my xl american bully
What food are you switching too
I can't believe your 100lb dog only eats 2 cups a day...my 65 lb pit eats 3 cups a day of the Orijen Puppy in the purple bag, plus he usually gets a chicken foot in the evening and maybe some yogurt with blueberries. He also gets raw, meaty bones about twice per week. He's not overweight at all.
@@ThatFatMom Whether you believe me or not, she eats 2 cups a day. She'll be 10 years old this month and she's been eating like that ever since she became an adult.
@@Severed89 I don't know yet. Sorry
What are your thoughts on zignature brand?
I have not used it
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Good information!
I’ve been feeding my puppy the large breed amazing grains.. I have an APT
Thanks for sharing
I feed 5 dogs. 4 are roughly 20lbs and 1 is 70lbs. I spend under 100$ a month feeding raw.
If you have time in your day, I’d love to get your thoughts on the Victor High Energy Beef Recipe (Red Bag). It’s a perfect 24/20. But I’m not quite as good as dissecting ingredients as you are.
Thought 💭 I would answer your question. I would personally switch to a high natural meat ingredient, such as Orijin, Farmina N&D, Essence, Carna4, Nutrisource Element, etc. The quality of ingredients and formula is based on a natural sources.
Zero problems with Victor Pro for Cane Corso and GSD.
Man an other great video. I would like to tank you for the Barf diet video that you made and basically save my dog. We cannot process any starches self diagnose trough trail and error my vet simply robed me out of 3000 $ with no diagnose . Now we are on raw beef only and we are saved. The dog gained weight we had almost instant miraculous recovery and we follow your recommendation of 5% body mass. The dog consumes slightly above 3 pounds of raw beef a day including bone marrow when available no bones just meat and this is it nothing else my vet try to sell me vitamins for " balanced diet" I asked her how often does wolf in the wild take vitamins ?
Well I will say wolves in the wild along with all predators do take vitamins in the form of liver from the prey that they eat. Unfortunately today a lot of our meats and poultry have been treated with hormones and such. So if you like to add a multivitamin which I recommend follow this link: www.nuvet.com/513237 if not you can try any other multivitamin for that matter.
Knowledge is Power.
Where do they sell this? Never seen in PetSmart?
PETCO
Blessings and great info, so u saying feeding a dogo grain free dog will cause DCM
I’m saying do your research
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Honest kitchen is a decent, cheaper brand. Not as protein heavy as some of these brands, but more natural, healthier ingredients than most.
Loaded with synthetic vitamins
Yea 110 for 20 pound dog food definitely too much. But if I was balling like that I definitely would give them the best of the best
I think best of the best is Raw
"100lb dog would go through a 22lb bag in about a week"......LoL! C'mon man, I know you are against kibble, but that bag would last a month at the minimum if you are feeding according to the recommended amount from the manufacturer. Most people vastly overfeed their pets, so, stick to the recommendation and exercise your sweet babies!
Now with that said, I have no doubt that feeding your dogs a raw diet that you put together is better overall than kibble. But, those of us who are trained K9 Handlers (former Gov't K9 Handler here) can attest that all of the Gov't dogs are on kibble, and they are straight up athletes, working harder than most people do every week, and they thrive on kibble and live long happy/healthy lives. This kibble looks amazing IMHO and I might just give it a try at some point. I'm currently switching to Open Farm GoodBowl, which isn't as top end as the Orijen, but it's very high quality for about half the price.
Eve thing I’ve seen here in Canada feeding raw is over $300 a month but I’ve also been told they only need to eat once a day on raw. It just seems complicated
My apbt is on acana it’s basically the same exact food as orijen. My dog loves it 10/10
Don’t text that number it’s a scam
It's a great kibbles but the proteins are too high breeders say that vet say that I don't know as a raw diet feeding chicken is cheaper if you add beef it's not.
Definately chicken is cheaper than beef. 38% protein is high IMO but you can add sweet potatoe, carrots to bring that number down for example. I bring those 2 up as they appear in the barf diet video at the end.
I have not been to pet smart for dog food prefer tractor supplies over them and feed stores 💯
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Really sucks that orijen got bought out by mars… I feed my German shepherd and yellow lab orijen original grain free and a little bit of acana with grains. Will be buying my last 3 bags tomorrow and then switching to a raw diet.
I hear you
Great info 😊
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Doesn't orjen cause dcm due to peas and lentil??
From my understanding DCM is caused by Grain Free Diet. These are legumes you mention and actually I don’t see the link. Unless you’ve read or know something I don’t. Please share.
Man I saw this food that was in a Walmart fridge and it had 14% crude protein and 11% crude fat. All the ingredients were natural. Not sure how good is that.
Yeah I will have to check out the fridge dog food next time.
Acana is made by orijen as well.... and if you look at feeding guide lines you can see that you dont have to feed them as much as other kibbles.. almost cuts the portion in half
Even if that was a 45 Lbs bag @ $105 that is still expensive Fam IMO
I think Acana bought Oirjen and from review the recipe has changed because of it within the last yr besides the regional red still get stuff from Canada farm. I mix small bag as topper with victor
@@jaylew651 Acana and Orijen were both under Champion foods a Canadian company and they recently sold out to Mars Inc. They changed the production process and recipes to enable more profit. It's not the same high quality food anymore, but they kept the price up because nobody is really aware of the buyout. If you are in the US the food comes from a new production facility in Kentucky, the rest of the world still gets it from Canada.
@@OldskoolHiFi my dogs have been on Acana and Orijen for almost 8 years now, and I have not seen any change with there appetite . I’m in Canada so not sure if it makes a difference 🤷🏼♀️. Canada has a higher standard for their dog food’s.
I had tried “Open Farms” brand and they liked it as well, but it’s a bit more expensive.
@@annawell2517 It's very possible nothing changed for you, it's my understanding that the US residents are getting their food from a new plant in Kentucky, where the same Canadian standards are not being upheld. I would still keep a close eye on the food ingredients and how your dogs respond.
Open Farm is one of the best foods
I feed my dog Open Farm too!
What grinder do you recommend. I need to get one asap
Westin. They run about $1,000 in amazon
Those brands have to make their money and balance out cost. Along the way of course sacrificing quality. Best bet is to learn what is best for your dog. I know not everyone likes to prep raw food but it’s an undefeated option. Just like home cooking vs fast food.
Found out my breeding pair of APBT , are having 9 puppies today ..going to make the switch from zignature to this for mom and Pops and check out the puppy stuff ..i live in Alaska so i promise its møte here Lol
Oh Wow. Let me know how much so we can compare
@@QBNKennel you bet ! I have a quick question as far as how involved I need to be when the actual birthing happens , i have been ready and researching for a few weeks , but nothing compares to actually breeder advice and experience, o don't mind paying for your time fam..I'm a huge fan and watcher of the channel , thank you for all you do for the bully community for real 💪
@@QBNKennel 120$ for the non fish blend... Also my female had her litter this morning ..10 healthy pups..momma did so good , and she swallowed the whole bowl of the new food ..loved it, its the new kibble in my house now..idc about the price
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Hey I enjoy your channel I’m a Cane Corso guy. Check out and review Farmina it’s a good foods as well it’s pricey and rich it’s also a small bag. But I think you’ll be surprised about the quality.
Thank you for the siggestion
My female Cane Corso Jade just turned 1 in Aug she’s 107lbs lean she eats 4 measuring cups a day. It may last a month or just shy. You won’t have to feed as much with food like Farmina and Orjien.
How long can before my dogs poo looks normal on barf diet
If you prepare the dog with probiotics and slowly transition it can go smooth.
If you're properly feeding your dog raw, it'll never be cheaper than kibble. It'll always be significantly more expensive. Don't get me wrong, raw is better. But financially speaking, if you're not going to feed raw spend the money on a quality kibble.
Thank u thank u thank u