That Batman scheme was too sick... For those that didn't realise, the Cane part rhymed with Bane is reference to Bob Kane, the guy that created the Batman comics
It was a hard beef to call but this one held up pretty fucking well. P was way more consistent but fell off a bit towards the end, Dot was kind of the opposite. Whole thing was entertaining as fuck either way, even if it got a bit bitchy and weird by the end.
@Fat Cat I agree that it matters whether it's true or not but they are also artists and obviously the quality of the music and bars is very important too. Otherwise by that logic a grime clash could just be about who is a better person or who's harder, and that would be shit. Above all else it's about who's a better MC really because that's what they do for a living. I do agree that lying undermines the credibility of it though.
Flow on this was mad, I mean I haven’t heard this in what 2 or 3 years and I already had the whole track going on through my head bar for bar when I typed p money in the search bar
Hass T this brotha p is real personnely I didn't know about both artists before this controversy. What I noticed is P has substance real & Dot has has a videographer 😂😂😂🤣🤣😁
F Pizzi shut the fuck up 😁 😁 laugh at you kids trying tell me not to criticise grime artists. What makes you a professional when I was listening to this shit before you was born
One of the hardest diss tracks i have ever heard. Always banging this one out, ive always liked this beat and to hear P flow on this like he is a madness. Killed it
I just listened to this back cause of the wiley dot wars... Man said the only thing that's got ur back is them studio sofas. The only thing ruff about u is hw u sleep! Lool
P is so underrated. He clashes everybody's favorite MC's and still wins. People are only backing Dot and Ghetts because they're fans. Real grime fans know P is the better war MC.
Daan van Eck ur gassed anyone who knows about rap not just grime will kno ghetts and dot are better lyrically than p end of and that's what it's about lyrical ability
While I can't deny how hard P went in, it wasn't the same feeling like when I heard Dots last Dub. Or even the same feeling like Ps last Dub. If all it's gonna be is he said she said from now, I'm just going to have to choose what track I liked musically instead.
The Real Talk’s are legendary but this is also up there as one of the best Grime diss tracks I’ve heard. Production and lyrics work perfectly. 6 mins of Fire 🔥
2 years later, this beef is one of the best back to clashes in the industry to the point where P and Dot could have released it as an album in order of replies and it would go platinum. Anyone can drop a 10 track album but when it’s on this level of “fuck that guy” they both came at it with their very best and the fans really won in the end.
Bullshit - P fucked him up on road and on mic, even man in Dots ends plays this diss, I live there - P money is winning, Dots a waste man who unfortinetly is a hard mc but he's a fuk boi.
Its only going to get better.. All the legend artists are turning beast again... Real beats and lyrics again.. None of this keep the lable happy.. They have started talking from the heart again... Im happy :)
The Real Roben im not on here gassing up JME though am I? JME ain't overrated. Any true grime head knows JME isnt the sickest MC about and wouldn't say he is but that doesn't mean I can't like him and show that in the gmail address i had from DAY.
@@georgedolman444 yes, but the fact jaykae even sent for him was MAD moves, you gotta respect him for it. Hes come so far made good moves to put him where he is. Jaykae to me win or loss those clashes, I will still listen to jaykae because he still released music and its banger after banger, he didnt let a clash effect his work rate
Dots got a point cos your saying he didn't deny a load of things but his real talk was a response to your real talk not the other two dubs, he'd written that before he'd listened to the other two
Had enough of seeing these comments about Dot not addressing anything off of Liars in the Booth, Dot wrote Real Talk before it dropped, just wait for his reply once he's finished with his holiday and drops his replies
"Yeah but Dot's lyrically better". This is irrelevant when the facts are being drawn out. You can say the most complex rhymes but get dismantled by something very simple which is factual
'DID YOU BLUDCLAAT NOTICE' BIG TUNE @3:15 GAMEOVER FOR DOT, P MAKE A FULL BLOWN DISS MIXTAPE ON THIS DOT CLOWN...TRACK AFTER TRACK JUST GUNNING HIM LIKE HOW 50 DID JA JADA AND JOE ON WINDOW SHOPPER MIXTAPE.
Pure fucking fire. Jesus Christ, I have no context but I'll definitely look into this beef. I hope homie at least kinda clapped back. But this has insane lyricism, punchlines and delivery. Fuck, I could see Eminem having to go into his bag for something like this. THIS IS A DIS TRACK!
To be fair, who wouldn't? If you got accused of beating a girl when you didn't, and then some guy spreads it to 100,000 people, who's gonna be happy about that?
Not saying he didn't, but from P Money's persepective, the Court Case saw the perpetrator on CCTV and said it wasn't P. He's got nothing to prove anymore.
Still here 6 years later
Dot bodied him tho.
@@bartleby01dot on his burner account 😂
That Batman scheme was too sick... For those that didn't realise, the Cane part rhymed with Bane is reference to Bob Kane, the guy that created the Batman comics
“Tiger woods in champion mode bare different sticks in the golf” that almost went over my head bruv
Yeah that was deep. The wip outside tooled up like that brudda!
Messi Mess still probably went over bare 🔥🔥
All different types of sticks but yeah
Also “you stupid WEEDhead, ROLL UP I got the FLAME for you” too tekky
@@zuavohra if you don't clock that you shouldn't be listening to lyrics
5 years later and this still leaves me speechless
''the only bitch i smacked up was you'' LOOOOL nah that bar deaded me fam
This was honestly my favourite song out the beef.
IMO, best points, most quotable, best beat and best flow.
It was a hard beef to call but this one held up pretty fucking well. P was way more consistent but fell off a bit towards the end, Dot was kind of the opposite. Whole thing was entertaining as fuck either way, even if it got a bit bitchy and weird by the end.
Definitely not best flow or beat
@Fat Cat I agree that it matters whether it's true or not but they are also artists and obviously the quality of the music and bars is very important too. Otherwise by that logic a grime clash could just be about who is a better person or who's harder, and that would be shit. Above all else it's about who's a better MC really because that's what they do for a living. I do agree that lying undermines the credibility of it though.
Flow on this was mad, I mean I haven’t heard this in what 2 or 3 years and I already had the whole track going on through my head bar for bar when I typed p money in the search bar
Flow on this is off the rails, guy doesn't seem to take a breath
This is one of the maddest grime beefs of all time
most lowkey yet biggest
Hass T this brotha p is real personnely I didn't know about both artists before this controversy. What I noticed is P has substance real & Dot has has a videographer 😂😂😂🤣🤣😁
Ratso Rizzo not being funny but if you don't know about either of these two then your opinion doesn't hold much weight in regards to a grime clash
F Pizzi shut the fuck up 😁 😁 laugh at you kids trying tell me not to criticise grime artists. What makes you a professional when I was listening to this shit before you was born
Ratso Rizzo listenin to this shit before he was born yet u never heard of p or dot before, lol this pretender over here fuck off
"Can you even vote my g?!"
Man said " I don't mind him saying he's the greatest of all time, Since when did a sheep know what a goat is" 😂😂😂😂😂
NUGLIFE Ben shut the fuck up
Ryan Buckland why😂😂 u salty bro
Boooom
😂😂😂 aww thats fucking awesome
Ryan Buckland go and smell a armpit.
“Since when did a sheep what a g.o.a.t is” that bar still rings in 2020
Rings better when it's correct 🤓
And in 2022
You missed know in the sentence
And in 2024
One of the hardest diss tracks i have ever heard. Always banging this one out, ive always liked this beat and to hear P flow on this like he is a madness. Killed it
It’s mad how I always end up coming back to this from time to time. One of the hardest diss tracks about. Can’t mess with p money his word play is 🔥
Same bro, fucking love it
"The only thing rough about you is how you sleep" finisher
This song still amazes me today, To those who love to read and go through all the lyrics you are having an eargasm right now😂
this beef has so much protein
I just listened to this back cause of the wiley dot wars... Man said the only thing that's got ur back is them studio sofas. The only thing ruff about u is hw u sleep! Lool
Lol he killed it
5 years later, still come back to this. 3:17 - 4:10 nobody has ever hit harder in a dub
It's crazyyyy!
Totally agree
1:53 still here in 2024
"Can you even vote my g" fckin hell 😅😂
ONE OF BEST SENDS IN GRIME. YOU CAN TELL EVERYTHING HE SAYS IS TRUE
P is so underrated. He clashes everybody's favorite MC's and still wins. People are only backing Dot and Ghetts because they're fans. Real grime fans know P is the better war MC.
Daan van Eck hahahahahaha the eifel tower never got rebuilt and the winter out here's still all black. Shut ya mout
Daan van Eck ur gassed anyone who knows about rap not just grime will kno ghetts and dot are better lyrically than p end of and that's what it's about lyrical ability
Daan van Eck ps defo top 5 but he couldnt pepper gh.
R.I.P Dot
P is levels above Ghetts and Dot, they cant flow like P and they dont have punchlines like P.
P can you please come a do one more dub and smoke dot rotten!
Dot held his own more than any other mc p ever went against. This whole back and forth was 🔥🔥🔥
I’m not a dot fan btw just appreciate how cold it was!
P money is in beast mode , its like playing your ps4 with a cheat code.
Each track dropped in this beef is better than the previous!
King MG I dunno man, the outro of this one was a bit cringe. A tactical man doesn't explain himself, I dunno. I liked it, but..
IFEGRIZZLY yh was thinking the same
King MG Nah this track didn't do it for me. The hardest one is still Dots. Dot doesn't even need to reply to this to be honest.
King MG what do you think of this diss is dot rotten better?
nah this isnt better then the last
2019 and still bumping
P money is the most talented grime artist who actually spit these flows delivery and wordplay on a long ass track
While I can't deny how hard P went in, it wasn't the same feeling like when I heard Dots last Dub. Or even the same feeling like Ps last Dub.
If all it's gonna be is he said she said from now, I'm just going to have to choose what track I liked musically instead.
P is the best uk grime artist and has been for years, flows for days metaphors for days. Raw talent !!!
Sorry cuz not while ghetts an kano breathing
i dont care what anyone says.... this is one of the hardest diss tracks EVER
EVER
P money goes in every time
Big up fay Scotland
Some of you believe Dot went harder.....okay, if you say so but P is simply stating facts that overpower dots, so really p's got this
The Real Talk’s are legendary but this is also up there as one of the best Grime diss tracks I’ve heard. Production and lyrics work perfectly. 6 mins of Fire 🔥
This ones a madness i always come back to this bro, gotta be the best diss track ive heard. Flows 🔥
More relevant as time goes on. P made a timeless diss.
No bullshit no lies straight up!!!!
ExoticZ man knows the ting
REVS yep coz youd know wouldnt you
Yeah
@@swimminggoggles5237 😂😂 that’s all I’m thinking
still listening to this and so underrated is p money
"I got people who have BEAT your ting in my video" too much man
James Scarpellino LOOL
P Money, fucking hell. This is exactly what the Grime scene needed my G..
This back 2 back is classic
Jay Boy this is history in the making
you know, it's way too intense bro
Bars!! P Money is seriously underrated. This has been one of the best quality bar for bar beefs ever!!
ngl both artists are mad. its good to have to sick mcs that are actually both levels going at it. Hopefully it can be kept just in music
CorescopePlays I find that very unlikely lmao ;-)
2 years later, this beef is one of the best back to clashes in the industry to the point where P and Dot could have released it as an album in order of replies and it would go platinum. Anyone can drop a 10 track album but when it’s on this level of “fuck that guy” they both came at it with their very best and the fans really won in the end.
This is the beginning of world war grime
Bullshit - P fucked him up on road and on mic, even man in Dots ends plays this diss, I live there - P money is winning, Dots a waste man who unfortinetly is a hard mc but he's a fuk boi.
+Brit Lord peeak😂😂😂
Brit Lord and people in ps ends plays dots disses, whts your point man...
kerser
Its only going to get better.. All the legend artists are turning beast again... Real beats and lyrics again.. None of this keep the lable happy.. They have started talking from the heart again... Im happy :)
He smoked this entire track but maaaan at 3:18 - 3:43🔥🔥🔥🔥
Flowing like Evian
@@2hocase hell yeah🌊🌊
absolute madness
@@willcollinson6570straight up
so underrated, never fully blown, should be getting an easy 1mil+ per video
Reuben Frank overrated*
Ok
Mansbetterrealise take your yt name into consideration
The Real Roben im not on here gassing up JME though am I? JME ain't overrated. Any true grime head knows JME isnt the sickest MC about and wouldn't say he is but that doesn't mean I can't like him and show that in the gmail address i had from DAY.
Had to come back to this. P is the GOAT for real.
3:18 onwards oh goshhh
"Since when did sheep know what a GOAT is.." P went off in this.... This clash is a mad one
Dot Rotten still crying into his Tesco branded cornflakes
hahaha
🤣😂😂😂🙆🏽♂️
dustisdeadbodies85 you got a very valid point there bruh !
😭
that's some random but funny shit you just said 😂
This is still fire in 2024 big up P Money... Way too underrated!!!
Finally 1 million! Deserves it 👏🏻🔥
This was straight up savagery, P's won every exchange so far but this was next level.
No one's got your back apart from them studio sofa, clever af word play.
P really is the King of Grime. Body bag 2-1
“Weed head, roll up, I got the flame for you” - bar
Who's re listening to these cuss the jaykay diss
Paul Brace haaha yeah
No this
Dot ruined jaykae tbf
before the wiley stormzy clash i didnt listen to any english rap/grime/drill, that clash opened the doors for me to p money, jaykay, wiley, yizzy etc
@@georgedolman444 yes, but the fact jaykae even sent for him was MAD moves, you gotta respect him for it. Hes come so far made good moves to put him where he is. Jaykae to me win or loss those clashes, I will still listen to jaykae because he still released music and its banger after banger, he didnt let a clash effect his work rate
2022 don't give a fuck about the beef just the skill of the lyricist
3:34 flow is a madness
Never denied
Dots got a point cos your saying he didn't deny a load of things but his real talk was a response to your real talk not the other two dubs, he'd written that before he'd listened to the other two
P money…. UNDER APPRECIATED
3:30 😭 nah bro u can't be coming that heavy
P money still so underrated never ever sleeps 👌
him & dot are both fire***
This will bang forever 🔥
Don't know how anyone can knock this mans ability 🙌🏻 He's a 👑
Hardest fire I ever heard....end of an era 2020 🔥
Real Ones remember this beat from Dapz & Lil Choppa - Straight Up💯
P looked so pleased when he said 'The only Bitch I ever smacked up was you!'
P money is on point ✋🏻 blokes a beast!!!!
That's why I practice so I stay on point like P MONEY!
P Money is a beast
Peak that this is probably one of the hardest dis tracks in about 6 years and all Dot Rotten can do is sit back and wait for it to hit 1 million views
Still can't figure out how people thought dot won. Been bugging me for years hearing that shit 🤣🤣🤣
P.money won all day long
Crazy right.
Real talk g. P won by miles. 💯
Nah dot one 100%
Nah joking 😂 p been 10/10 for years now
This 'beef' has been an excellent showcase of both artists skills. They both deserve to be up.
Had enough of seeing these comments about Dot not addressing anything off of Liars in the Booth, Dot wrote Real Talk before it dropped, just wait for his reply once he's finished with his holiday and drops his replies
sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh i'm just seeing this for the first time. STRAIGHT B O D I E D fam
This guy is fucking killing it
It's just shots from all angles mad and they keep it relevant all specifics ❄️
"Yeah but Dot's lyrically better". This is irrelevant when the facts are being drawn out. You can say the most complex rhymes but get dismantled by something very simple which is factual
'DID YOU BLUDCLAAT NOTICE' BIG TUNE @3:15 GAMEOVER FOR DOT, P MAKE A FULL BLOWN DISS MIXTAPE ON THIS DOT CLOWN...TRACK AFTER TRACK JUST GUNNING HIM LIKE HOW 50 DID JA JADA AND JOE ON WINDOW SHOPPER MIXTAPE.
Pure fucking fire. Jesus Christ, I have no context but I'll definitely look into this beef. I hope homie at least kinda clapped back. But this has insane lyricism, punchlines and delivery. Fuck, I could see Eminem having to go into his bag for something like this. THIS IS A DIS TRACK!
Year later and i still go mad over ps disses
P Money looks like he took that hitting women bar to the heart lol
To be fair, who wouldn't? If you got accused of beating a girl when you didn't, and then some guy spreads it to 100,000 people, who's gonna be happy about that?
Anon Falco how you know he didn't
Not saying he didn't, but from P Money's persepective, the Court Case saw the perpetrator on CCTV and said it wasn't P. He's got nothing to prove anymore.
REVS stop copying and pasting your comment on different replies u patty
REVS act like it's evidence too cos you got a quote, nah.
mad seeing this video. used to live in sydenham. so many parts of this video just round the corner from my old place.
"When did you go country?" from the guy that pulled out witness statements for an incident in country, where Dot lived haha
That devilman reference 👌 another mad edit and track 🎶🔥🔥
P absolutely killed it , Dot needs to go into hiding haha . King of clashing 100
i need a P Money/ Pharoe Monch album
immediately ( dem man dem tacticians )
"Stamp out the vaneers from your gums."Savage.
"Your dub was sick but its lies your vibing off"🔥
P stop you've killed him already 😂
How have I just heard this!!! Tingles and ting
Dots diss was more lyrical and had some sick wordplay but ps dig some deep wounds
Stone Cold deep lies* unless you're on about p still banging on about girls cheating on dot
Am I the only one not picking a side and just sitting back enjoying both MC'S??? .. best thing to happen to grime in years!!! Gwaaarn P AND Dot ..
Literally nobody can clash P. He is unbeatable. The best lyricist in grime hands down
dan banjod u sure?
Ghetts?
Madness...Chip would annihilate him 😂 sorry,I think P Money is a top MC but not best battle MC
@@danielcrawford-pv2xo have to disagree with you there bro. Both outstanding. Would be only one way to find out 😜
@@danielcrawford-pv2xo Chip had trouble with yungen and Bugzy 😂 The stormzy disses have him so overrated.
Back again
Still listening and p spun Dot,
Don’t care what anyone’s go argue in the mirror
Just came over this. Knew p money, but not back in 5 yrs. If somebody is here now can they explain the beef?
Thomas Mellor is the real winner in all this, hasnt had to make anything new either lol
If master writer is really that good, then i'm downloading it and taking over the grime scene, why not.
Not wi a name like that bruv.