I saw this when it was first broadcast on TV on Channel Four in 1984. It was very authentic then, so for social historians, this is a good portrait of City unemployed life in the UK in the early 80s, before drugs and its trash-hype culture nauseatingly became all dominant in every low-down area. Gary Oldman got the skinhead down to perfection. 10 years later, 1994 the pop group Blur did a talk at the National Film Theatre, following watching a film of them on tour. They were stupid drunk, so that talk was a waste of time but they kept making references from this film, possibly I was the only one in the audience who made the connection. I learned it became a sort of cult film among student types at the start of the 90s, idolising it as a sort of "outsider film". In 1996 after watching a film at the London Film Festival, as we got up to leave I saw Mike Leigh in the row behind. I said to him I admired Meantime, he gave me a cold look - no reply. I learned later he was fed up with its new life as a cult "indie" film on illegal video tape recordings and its reputation as black amongst students and probably saw me as part of that. He saw it as a social justice film, but it was never going to be that, too much black humour and the whole drama thing, what the Soviets used to sneeringly called a "bourgeious" story line (a soviet director would have ended with an up-rising with a massive shoot out with the police and local politicians. Rubbish of course. Mike Leigh's ending is more relistic.) I liked the focus on Roth's face in the last scene with the sound track of family bickering in the kitchen. You really wonder, what happens to someone like that. It got an award at the Berlin Film Festival (east Berlin, then still communist), for "showing how facism develops "(e.g. the skinhead). The mum, Mavis played by Pam Ferris, became a household TV face in Britain as Ma Baker in a popular TV series The Darling Buds of May. Phil Daniels who played Mark, did many other films but UK based and did a voiceover on Blur's Park Life song. Tim Roth, Alfred Molina and Gary Oldman, we know now as an internationally acclaimed actors. Only Frank, played by Jeff Roberts seems to have vanished from the record. Shame I thought he was good. As soon as it came out on VHS in the mid 90s I bought it. Nice now to see it now on HD. Thanks for posting.
Meantime (1983) (HD version) 9.3.23 1425pm as i had to explain to an asian chap circa 1987... not all skinheads are fascist - not in the left vs right sense, anyhow. oldman seems to be the more successful of the troupe - though, again, making it big in america isn't a measure of success - refer to derek and clive ie: dudley moore and peter cook or vice versa. they all seem to have been waylaid by starring in marvel comic movies... refer to the hulk, Spiderman and batman franchises... leigh relies just as much on the stereotype as the next lazy film director. though this could be a case of the actors growing into the role, themselves relying on stereotypical notions of how to portray a character. lazy them eh!? as for mike leigh - he's probably a nasty bastard. most aesthetes are. or maybe you said something else along with your admiring his film...? or maybe he thought: how dare you speak to me, prole. he is, after all, a stately face in the tudor court. lol. i would plump for the latter. him not suferign fools gladly. not much to say re: this film yet as i thought i'd wax lyrical before watching - in response to your fawning supplication. i like roth - made in britain. i like molina - letter to brezhnev... oldman.. maybe he was ok in dracula...(?) phil daniels? the obligatory nod to that mod film would probably bein' order but he's done other stuff... i will just say i read is autobiog the wheel tappers and shunters of the north east moving down to the big smoke... as for a soviet uprising of the downtrodden latent worker deproved of his rights in the slave state - that wouldn't' surprise me. though, as we know, the same old b.s is perpetuated by the same old eff wits. so no comment on that aspect of insurrectionism. fav film is naked, anyway. way too good for those lowly proles to appreciate. i cant afford another copy of those films i have lost... you can start yer next film shewing some disgruntled prole - no schmaltz, please - pouring his detergent infested soup down the sink cos they couldnt be arsed putting in a decent water supply.
Meantime (1983) (HD version) 1616pm 9.3.23 it's a tedious film. very plodding and does seem to spin off from the social commentary of the film: Made In Britain.... is this how the monster Colin came about or is this how Cilin really is after the police got a grip of him - a social retarded malcontent with a sect of controlling idealogues behind him...? i'd still revert to Made In Britain for my ironic laughs, though... and this film, seemingly, lent more to A Fistful Of Travellers Cheques than it did a study re: the rise of a once latent fascism embedded within a misspent youth. Maybe you could have watched Five Go Mad In Dorset and still likened each character to whomever you pleased? you get to the point wherein yer sick of the tag lines or hashtags working class, poverty, unemployed and/or social security... and yer get to the point wherein yer sick of the lags behind the lens or tuck behind a typewriter churning out this dirge and woeful crud which they hope with perpetuate a myth that yer all supposed to be like that... happy to see Colin let loose, though... pity the pigs fucked him over... p.s everyone now dig out their copies of: Made in Britain dvds or vhs and afterwards discuss... you will have either thought i meant this: ruclips.net/video/3jiSv64rtPw/видео.html or this: ruclips.net/video/X5jrIBUoAFw/видео.html i mean the choice is, essentially, yours.... and given a choice, as opposed to them having made a vast assumption, the choice can easily be made.
@@JJONNYREPP if you look at it from the perspective of 2023 and what we expect from films now, sure it's terribly dated and of its time. But that in many ways is where its quirky and at times cumbersome beauty lies. What I still like about it - as well as like opening a time capsule from the early 80s and the dysfunctional economic and social conditions of the times - is that it also homes in on the dysfunctional relationships of a married couple who've apparently made good as well as a disadvantaged family growing up and growing apart. I'm sure most people can't abide the clinking of the piano but I've got used to it. At 53 I just missed the skinhead phase but my cousin was big into that scene. Films have changed and times have changed but the reality of inequality as well as the dysfunction of human beings trying to make the best of a bad job (life) is still here.
@@andrewthompson1779 Meantime (1983) (HD version) 9.3.23 1648pm i just wish people would stop lying... i could not relate to any of it. the aspect of control rings true - but, again, that's part and parcel of any society and/or relationship. it was briefly alluded to re: economic debate with the stoner who came to look at the damaged window frame. no idea what that was all about... incidentally, he was seen in the film: naked - playing the security guard. a fine film - if you enjoy character studies re: dysfunction frustration and alienation... skins reared their head in the late 60's as far as i am aware as the mods and their blueys came crashing down around their pop kultural ears... the music? reminded me of Performance - the film jagger and co made with Donald Seton Cammell.. worth watching for its oddness and drug cultural references. the family lives are staple mike leigh fare, as i have stated. contrasts of made good - which is anything but if you peak beneath the layers of subterfuge as opposed to the just about struggling... the latter relationship scenario is probably more stable a relationship than the former due to any irks and frustration being aired for all to hear. the former relationship kept afloat with booze valium and office perks. skins were allegedly there to be feared - it's a sub culture, youths want(ed) eff all to do with what went before. if anything it's a comment on the death of sub cultures, then. we have come full cirle and found kidults are back in vogue - who dress like their fathers, engage with the 9 to 5 and aspire to the filthy lucre they probably didnt give a damn about as long as a good time was had. sadly, in this film, even trying to have a good time is weighed down with the characters' inane dullness social dis-ease and tedious conformity...
@@JJONNYREPP as viewers we all bring something of ourselves to what we watch and our subjective lense interprets what we see according to our expectations, experiences and personal taste.
@@andrewthompson1779 Meantime (1983) (HD version) 1728pm 9.3.23 in short, everyone can probably have their own opinion on this film and others.... and everyone has the right to switch off if they choose to do so. i saw the film through - cos i enjoy roth and daniels.. even molina is tolerable... this film could have been made yesterday. the same housing estates still exist even if they do get a make over... maybe the same mentalities exist and differing people just fill the void? where did it go wrong, though...?
Lordy, how depressing……… takes me back to the ‘triumph’ of Thatcher’s “there is no such thing as society” years……I’m paraphrasing the cow. Starmer now same thing if not worse. Brilliant film ….. thank you for posting.
Thank you thank you thank you. I'd seen this years ago and never forgotten it. What a writer, what a cast. You don't get TV made stuff like this anymore
I`m from Argentina, undesrtood half of the dialogues but that was enough as the film is excellent. Each word, camera angle contributes to give meaning. Thank you for the upload!
Yo también soy Argentino,está película estuvo en RUclips hace 10 años atrás con subtítulos en Español y se ve que después la bajaron,ahora quize volver a verla y sólo encontré esta versión. A mi me recuerda en parte a las partes fábriles y sombrías cerca del puerto y Valentín Alsina a finales de los años 80's .no se por que...saludos!
I'm glad you like it. It's a very realistic portrayal of working class life in London at that time, before the mass immigration of the 1990s under the Blair government, which completely changed the demographic makeup of areas such as the housing estate shown in the film.
@@Londonfogey ; Yes. I was in Manchester in 1998 and this film reminds me a quite lot. I could not understand well Manchester slang words and the way of talking, but those people were so kind and friendly with me I still remember very well. From Buenos Aires, too.
@@Londonfogey There was a mass immigration in the 90s , that's terrible even here in South Africa it was Massive now ppl are suffering more than before
I can relate to parts of this film with my own family..I watched it on my own in 1984 age 14 when my mum was working late it had a real effect on .around this time also..my mother had the courage to extract us and herself away from the toxic issues found in parts of this social document.... however ... we're all good today.....but success is measured in ways i still feel sorry for millions who have missed opportunities in life and always try to help others get x
You just don't see films as real as this anymore. Stark, honest and characters with real depth. They'd rather put bleeding programs like bloody bake off and strictly on.
I think we all know why they refuse to do programming like this anymore. We are no longer allowed to portray real life, lest we trigger those who have contempt for its truth. What a time to be alive. ‘Woke’ is a min disease with no known cure. Idiocracy in the making.
@@Ritff666l-e9e Woke isn’t real life. It’s a racist and gender class system void of merit and critical thinking. I have 2 degrees from the New School. Marxism has been rearing its ugly head for years in this country. Antiwhitism in the guise of woke inclusivity has become their ploy. It’s worked up until now. But, just like in the past. Americans especially, throw them under the bus. They are currently desperate and eating their own, as usual.
This is such an amazing film! It's so convincing with the grim and depressing factor of working clasd London in the 80s. All the actors are great in it. Thanks for the upload
It really is. It's one of my favourite films. Full of up and coming actors who really shine. It has a nice balance of despair and hilarity. There are so many great quotes.
I'm from South Africa and growing up poor, this film resonates in ways I cannot fully describe. We didnt have a doll system or council estates....but we experienced the same hardships. This movie hits home so hard. Thanks for uploading...
Such a special place in my heart... filmed in part where I grew up in the east end and out on the Essex borders. Bleak and uplifting in equal measures. And the music! Just so hauntingly beautiful. Sadly never commercially released as far as I know. Still watch it about once a year, and always will....
Outside shots were filmed in 1983 and it was shown at some film festivals later that year including the London Film Festival. It won only one award, at the East Berlin Film Festival (then still a communist state). It was made for TV as part of UK's Channel Four, a new channel back then whose remit was to to be innovative and make the sort of things the other main TV channels never made (the Channel long ago abandoned that creative remit, regretfully). It was screened on TV in Spring of 1984 and a repeat in 1985. Then not seen until it came out on video sale in the mid-90s. But curiously before that it was beeing passed around on illegal video tape in the early 90s in urban art communes so had built up a cult following. The piano music, there was some woman composer who did tunes for quite a few of the Channel Four films back then, it might have been her. Sounds like her work.
back then, people were still asking genuine cultural questions. so movies/tv/music/literature etc were - in fact - just better. cultural reproduction is always going to suck in comparison. even with huge technological advances
I'm watching this in2024.Fantastic film.Thanks for uploading. Looking at the previous comments I agree with Tim Roth & Gary Oldmans performances but let's have a big shout to Phil Daniels who also went on to greater things albeit not as mainstream as the aforementioned.
This shows life as it was for us, living under the same roof with people you can’t stand, but are blood related to, so you have no choice about it. I remember it well.
In 1981 I was off the balls pond road Hackney in a tenement block. I f ing hated the place it was so rough. I went to see a friend in East Ham way and we had a lock in with the roughest of strippers on a Sunday afternoon. This movie brought it all back and you know what I juts thinking how f ing awful it was. Specially the kicking in the Stoke Newington police station and the black pariah van to Highbury magistrates in the morning. I can feel that cold wind on my ripped rugby shirt as I trudged back to my digs in Stoke Newington. Thanks for the reminder I got my degree but you know what London really was a f ing dump and would never want to go through that again. We were as broke as these guys as students.
The scene with the council housing officer is superb, showing the total disconnect between those who have been through the state education/indoctrination system and those who have not. The man is able to waffle on about theoretical bullsh*t he has probably read in the Guardian or heard on the BBC, but he can't give an actual time or date when the work will be done. 'Anthills...yeah?'
After reading your comment then watching the film, it was a complete character reversal to what I expected. I expected some stuck up do-gooder who'd never lived in poverty in his life and played by all the rules. Instead we got some weird eccentric hippie bloke who's role just seemed so surreal and bizarre. I honestly didn't get the message they were going for.
I love it when you find a hidden gem on here.. Thankyou for taking your time to put this little gem up,really appreciate it.. Have a lovely day & Take care 🤘🏻☮🤘🏻☮
If I had ever back chatted my Dad I wouldn't have a head left on my shoulders & I wouldn't be able to sit for a month..My Dad scared the 💩💩 out of me..
@@steveblundell7766yep my Dad was really strict i have had a few good hidings & the belt..i would never ever back chat my Dad,I'm 47 & i won't swear or back chat or argue with my Dad,i still carry that fear,he's just over 6ft tall aswell.. Anyway have a great day & take care 🤘🏼☮🤘🏼☮
Takes me back. Very grim. I left school in 1984 in Manchester. There was no work. Most just accepted it. It was very depressing. Some went on Youth Training Schemes for 20 quid a week. Everyone bangs on now about how hard it is now, rents are high, cost of living etc. it was much harder than. I was lucky, went in the Royal Navy at 16. I left the UK and settled first in the USA and then Vancouver, BC where I remain.
“You will own nothing and you will be happy” only people who have already lived with nothing know what a crock of sht the WEF is pushing short memories some people, great movie and a bit of British history thanks for the upload.
I found this great Documentary regarding the WEF. In 2020, G20 governments, in collusion with the World Economic Forum’s Stakeholders, discretely and undemocratically enacted a global ten-year transition to an authoritarian political system, called Stakeholder Capitalism. After propagating a Marxist idea that black and trans people are oppressed and indoctrinating us to fear climate change, the Stakeholders are mandating their pre-planned political system, which its criminal mastermind, Klaus Schwab, alleges is better for ‘people and planet’. ruclips.net/video/A1m4zZvyCxg/видео.html
Never heard of this. First time. Kept me on the edge of my seat forever. The question of the day: not if, but *when* are they gonna get violent. Just waiting for the unforgiveable blows or cut-downs or insult that would spell doom. What a beautiful movie.
1:31:15 all the way to the end of the argument, pinpoint accuracy on how familial arguments go down. Nothing but yelling, confusion, backstabbing, accusations, etc. It’s almost too real in this scene. Everyone did a fantastic job and Mike Leigh killed it with the direction.
i fully agree. its spot on. 2 other very realistic arguments are Alison Steadman vs Jane Horrocks in Life is Sweet and Timothy Spalls' speech in Secrets and LIes.
Tim Roth's character was completely different in the Made in Britain movie which was a year before this movie, he was a out of control reckless violent skinhead in Made in Britain, in this movie his character is shy and socially awkward who is afraid of everything and always getting bullied by his family, his brother Mark (Phil Daniels) and Coxy(Gary Oldman) are the rebelling reckless ones in this movie
The bad music makes me remember the after-school specials in the late 70s and early 80s. Even a film we would watch in school. Good movie, Gary Oldman!
Yeah! What’s the thought behind that horrible piano plinking!!! I’m sure there’s a good reason, but it’s the one aspect that makes me think ‘made for television.
i have a download of this movie that i watched not too long ago but i was so excited to find this upload that i watched it again on the spot. thank you for putting this up, think everyone should see it at least once
Heart-breaking. And a bit of a nostalgia trip for me. Little details from the 80s I’d forgotten about. Even that kettle! He wasn’t such a bad brother in the end.
Many others here in the comments complaining about the soundtrack, but not me and you, ollieclixby. I thought the music for this was perfect. Jarring, yes. BUT THE WHOLE THING IS JARRING! And beautiful.
First time I've seen this. Reminds me of being a child in the 80's, not in London, south England. Fashion, little things such as carpets & furniture. Quadrophenia was a great film around this time, with Phil Daniels (1979) Made in England with Tim Roth.
The early 1980’s. Margaret Thatcher presided over, & rapidly accelerated, widespread deprivation, racism, riots, poverty, hopelessness. Mike Leigh understood it at all street level. Most struggled while the affluent minority capitalised. These sociological chronicles are invaluable. They should all remain available as lessons to succeeding generations. Thank you for posting this film here. If we don’t learn from the past we are destined to make the same mistakes in the future.
When idiots, looking back through their rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia telling you how great it was in the ‘Good Old Days’. This how shit it was for us as young people in the early 80s in London.
I just thinking about our life in Colombia. The scene with the washing machine at home. At this time I'm laughing because in this part of the world having a machine was the best of the best. The poverty was terrible but we have also very good time there. Thank you for this movie. I seen this like the beginning of the moovie called 'made in Britain' my favourite actors ❤ skin !
Hailing from the US, I never had the chance to see this movie until recently. I admire the gritty realism and enjoy seeing Tim Roth and Gary Oldman early in their careers. I've tracked down a few other similar titles, such as Scum, Made in Britain, and Rhino. If anyone can recommend any others like these, I'd most appreciate it.
these were the good times. poor people could afford to go in a pub for a beer and buy cigarettes and people talked and listened to you. no comparison to today. any commentators under 3ß here?
Absolute 80's classic film from Mike Leigh, i had it on VHS for many years, so many outstanding performances, I often find myself quoting odd lines from the film "Dont stink it out Frank"
Such a restrained performance by Tim Roth. He carries the film. Great to watch Gary Oldman early in his career. He has never put in a bad performance. It’s amazing what a difference having a good script and excellent dialogue will do.
The Mask of Death song from Dawn of the Dead 78 starts playing at 15:57 . The scene they are watching on tv doesn't seem to be from Dawn but it's the song for sure I can confirm that much, you also hear a woman screaming which sounds a lot like the scene when Wooley opens the door that he shouldn't, they also talk about a Colt 45 which could be in the gun store scene.
Mike Leigh has always been one of my favourite directors since the very first moment I watched one of his films but as time goes by I think he might actually be my favourite. Here is where I am about to sound poncey, psuedo-intellectual, and arty farty, but whatever... Some directors make mockumentaries by creating scripted/acted movies disguised as real life situations whereas Mike Leigh creates real life moments disguised as scripted/acted films. Mikeumenararies.
@poppycock31185 as you (may?) well know Leigh has built an entire career patronizing the English working classes. I'm assuming you're middle class hence your love of him?
We got ants...brilliant. laughed and cried all in about 5 mins...remember being on a YOP £23.50 a week the 80s were a disaster for some of us, certainly the first few years of the decade..
"It helps us if you tell us about the grain of sand ok, don't wait to tell us about the ant hill." My favorite lines from this movie. I'm always quoting that whole phrase at work and no one has a clue where it's from here in the 2020's South Louisiana.
I was 17 when this film was released & I was on the dole too so I could relate to this film 100%, 40 years later & it's still a good film, as Roth & Oldman went on to megga stardom;
@@megataurus7779 I was carrying out a test on RUclips to see whether my comment would be deleted as my remarks here on political and particularly religious issues are usually shadow banned or deleted.
I saw this when it was first broadcast on TV on Channel Four in 1984. It was very authentic then, so for social historians, this is a good portrait of City unemployed life in the UK in the early 80s, before drugs and its trash-hype culture nauseatingly became all dominant in every low-down area. Gary Oldman got the skinhead down to perfection.
10 years later, 1994 the pop group Blur did a talk at the National Film Theatre, following watching a film of them on tour. They were stupid drunk, so that talk was a waste of time but they kept making references from this film, possibly I was the only one in the audience who made the connection.
I learned it became a sort of cult film among student types at the start of the 90s, idolising it as a sort of "outsider film". In 1996 after watching a film at the London Film Festival, as we got up to leave I saw Mike Leigh in the row behind. I said to him I admired Meantime, he gave me a cold look - no reply. I learned later he was fed up with its new life as a cult "indie" film on illegal video tape recordings and its reputation as black amongst students and probably saw me as part of that. He saw it as a social justice film, but it was never going to be that, too much black humour and the whole drama thing, what the Soviets used to sneeringly called a "bourgeious" story line (a soviet director would have ended with an up-rising with a massive shoot out with the police and local politicians. Rubbish of course. Mike Leigh's ending is more relistic.) I liked the focus on Roth's face in the last scene with the sound track of family bickering in the kitchen. You really wonder, what happens to someone like that.
It got an award at the Berlin Film Festival (east Berlin, then still communist), for "showing how facism develops "(e.g. the skinhead).
The mum, Mavis played by Pam Ferris, became a household TV face in Britain as Ma Baker in a popular TV series The Darling Buds of May. Phil Daniels who played Mark, did many other films but UK based and did a voiceover on Blur's Park Life song. Tim Roth, Alfred Molina and Gary Oldman, we know now as an internationally acclaimed actors. Only Frank, played by Jeff Roberts seems to have vanished from the record. Shame I thought he was good.
As soon as it came out on VHS in the mid 90s I bought it. Nice now to see it now on HD. Thanks for posting.
I saw this the day after it was broadcast in 1984 on channel 4 as my father taped it on Betamax
I saw it at a Melbourne Uni in 95 at a film night. The next week they played Dogs in Space.
Meantime (1983) (HD version) 9.3.23 1425pm as i had to explain to an asian chap circa 1987... not all skinheads are fascist - not in the left vs right sense, anyhow.
oldman seems to be the more successful of the troupe - though, again, making it big in america isn't a measure of success - refer to derek and clive ie: dudley moore and peter cook or vice versa. they all seem to have been waylaid by starring in marvel comic movies... refer to the hulk, Spiderman and batman franchises...
leigh relies just as much on the stereotype as the next lazy film director. though this could be a case of the actors growing into the role, themselves relying on stereotypical notions of how to portray a character. lazy them eh!?
as for mike leigh - he's probably a nasty bastard. most aesthetes are. or maybe you said something else along with your admiring his film...? or maybe he thought: how dare you speak to me, prole. he is, after all, a stately face in the tudor court. lol.
i would plump for the latter. him not suferign fools gladly.
not much to say re: this film yet as i thought i'd wax lyrical before watching - in response to your fawning supplication. i like roth - made in britain. i like molina - letter to brezhnev... oldman.. maybe he was ok in dracula...(?) phil daniels? the obligatory nod to that mod film would probably bein' order but he's done other stuff... i will just say i read is autobiog the wheel tappers and shunters of the north east moving down to the big smoke...
as for a soviet uprising of the downtrodden latent worker deproved of his rights in the slave state - that wouldn't' surprise me. though, as we know, the same old b.s is perpetuated by the same old eff wits. so no comment on that aspect of insurrectionism.
fav film is naked, anyway. way too good for those lowly proles to appreciate.
i cant afford another copy of those films i have lost...
you can start yer next film shewing some disgruntled prole - no schmaltz, please - pouring his detergent infested soup down the sink cos they couldnt be arsed putting in a decent water supply.
Fascinating
@@olympicjbrag5913 Meantime (1983) (HD version) 1134am 16.5.23 truly truly disappointing... like yourself.
I've watched this 20, maybe 30 times. It's the most real film ever made. Life in early 80s UK.
Meantime (1983) (HD version) 1616pm 9.3.23 it's a tedious film. very plodding and does seem to spin off from the social commentary of the film: Made In Britain.... is this how the monster Colin came about or is this how Cilin really is after the police got a grip of him - a social retarded malcontent with a sect of controlling idealogues behind him...? i'd still revert to Made In Britain for my ironic laughs, though... and this film, seemingly, lent more to A Fistful Of Travellers Cheques than it did a study re: the rise of a once latent fascism embedded within a misspent youth. Maybe you could have watched Five Go Mad In Dorset and still likened each character to whomever you pleased? you get to the point wherein yer sick of the tag lines or hashtags working class, poverty, unemployed and/or social security... and yer get to the point wherein yer sick of the lags behind the lens or tuck behind a typewriter churning out this dirge and woeful crud which they hope with perpetuate a myth that yer all supposed to be like that... happy to see Colin let loose, though... pity the pigs fucked him over... p.s everyone now dig out their copies of: Made in Britain dvds or vhs and afterwards discuss... you will have either thought i meant this: ruclips.net/video/3jiSv64rtPw/видео.html or this: ruclips.net/video/X5jrIBUoAFw/видео.html i mean the choice is, essentially, yours.... and given a choice, as opposed to them having made a vast assumption, the choice can easily be made.
@@JJONNYREPP if you look at it from the perspective of 2023 and what we expect from films now, sure it's terribly dated and of its time. But that in many ways is where its quirky and at times cumbersome beauty lies. What I still like about it - as well as like opening a time capsule from the early 80s and the dysfunctional economic and social conditions of the times - is that it also homes in on the dysfunctional relationships of a married couple who've apparently made good as well as a disadvantaged family growing up and growing apart. I'm sure most people can't abide the clinking of the piano but I've got used to it. At 53 I just missed the skinhead phase but my cousin was big into that scene. Films have changed and times have changed but the reality of inequality as well as the dysfunction of human beings trying to make the best of a bad job (life) is still here.
@@andrewthompson1779 Meantime (1983) (HD version) 9.3.23 1648pm i just wish people would stop lying... i could not relate to any of it. the aspect of control rings true - but, again, that's part and parcel of any society and/or relationship. it was briefly alluded to re: economic debate with the stoner who came to look at the damaged window frame. no idea what that was all about... incidentally, he was seen in the film: naked - playing the security guard. a fine film - if you enjoy character studies re: dysfunction frustration and alienation... skins reared their head in the late 60's as far as i am aware as the mods and their blueys came crashing down around their pop kultural ears... the music? reminded me of Performance - the film jagger and co made with Donald Seton Cammell.. worth watching for its oddness and drug cultural references. the family lives are staple mike leigh fare, as i have stated. contrasts of made good - which is anything but if you peak beneath the layers of subterfuge as opposed to the just about struggling... the latter relationship scenario is probably more stable a relationship than the former due to any irks and frustration being aired for all to hear. the former relationship kept afloat with booze valium and office perks. skins were allegedly there to be feared - it's a sub culture, youths want(ed) eff all to do with what went before. if anything it's a comment on the death of sub cultures, then. we have come full cirle and found kidults are back in vogue - who dress like their fathers, engage with the 9 to 5 and aspire to the filthy lucre they probably didnt give a damn about as long as a good time was had. sadly, in this film, even trying to have a good time is weighed down with the characters' inane dullness social dis-ease and tedious conformity...
@@JJONNYREPP as viewers we all bring something of ourselves to what we watch and our subjective lense interprets what we see according to our expectations, experiences and personal taste.
@@andrewthompson1779 Meantime (1983) (HD version) 1728pm 9.3.23 in short, everyone can probably have their own opinion on this film and others.... and everyone has the right to switch off if they choose to do so. i saw the film through - cos i enjoy roth and daniels.. even molina is tolerable... this film could have been made yesterday. the same housing estates still exist even if they do get a make over... maybe the same mentalities exist and differing people just fill the void? where did it go wrong, though...?
I pressed this film by accident - best mistake I've made. It's a brilliant film that I'd never heard of.
Gold when that happens 👍
One of my absolute favorites. There is nothing that really compares. It captures all the most real aspects of life with this supreme subtlety.
Fantastic, Gary Oldman's change in face and mannerism when the guy in the Lift puts him in his place is an example of how greater actor he is.
Yes - I noticed that. Superb acting. Also the way he bullies Hayley, subtly enough so that she doesn't notice it.
35:30, in case anybody wants to see it.
Lordy, how depressing……… takes me back to the ‘triumph’ of Thatcher’s “there is no such thing as society” years……I’m paraphrasing the cow. Starmer now same thing if not worse. Brilliant film ….. thank you for posting.
Well said!!
This brings back memorys of being brought up in the 80,s as a kid. Great actors
mike leigh ... your a god in what u do best .. one of my fave films well done to all the cast ..... fantastic❤
Didn't he do Life is sweet an all?
indeed he did
I think we all know why.
High Hopes 🎬
Thank you thank you thank you. I'd seen this years ago and never forgotten it. What a writer, what a cast. You don't get TV made stuff like this anymore
I think we all know why
@@larkatmic Tell us
I`m from Argentina, undesrtood half of the dialogues but that was enough as the film is excellent. Each word, camera angle contributes to give meaning. Thank you for the upload!
Yo también soy Argentino,está película estuvo en RUclips hace 10 años atrás con subtítulos en Español y se ve que después la bajaron,ahora quize volver a verla y sólo encontré esta versión.
A mi me recuerda en parte a las partes fábriles y sombrías cerca del puerto y Valentín Alsina a finales de los años 80's .no se por que...saludos!
I'm glad you like it. It's a very realistic portrayal of working class life in London at that time, before the mass immigration of the 1990s under the Blair government, which completely changed the demographic makeup of areas such as the housing estate shown in the film.
@@Londonfogey ; Yes. I was in Manchester in 1998 and this film reminds me a quite lot. I could not understand well Manchester slang words and the way of talking, but those people were so kind and friendly with me I still remember very well. From Buenos Aires, too.
Argentine bastard
@@Londonfogey There was a mass immigration in the 90s , that's terrible even here in South Africa it was Massive now ppl are suffering more than before
I can relate to parts of this film with my own family..I watched it on my own in 1984 age 14 when my mum was working late it had a real effect on .around this time also..my mother had the courage to extract us and herself away from the toxic issues found in parts of this social document.... however ... we're all good today.....but success is measured in ways i still feel sorry for millions who have missed opportunities in life and always try to help others get x
You just don't see films as real as this anymore. Stark, honest and characters with real depth. They'd rather put bleeding programs like bloody bake off and strictly on.
Mike Leigh, master filmmaker.
I think we all know why they refuse to do programming like this anymore. We are no longer allowed to portray real life, lest we trigger those who have contempt for its truth. What a time to be alive. ‘Woke’ is a min disease with no known cure. Idiocracy in the making.
@@larkatmic Uh I would think Mike Leigh etc represent woke more
Which is in essence making aware of real life
Minus some aspects
@@Ritff666l-e9e Woke isn’t real life. It’s a racist and gender class system void of merit and critical thinking. I have 2 degrees from the New School. Marxism has been rearing its ugly head for years in this country. Antiwhitism in the guise of woke inclusivity has become their ploy. It’s worked up until now. But, just like in the past. Americans especially, throw them under the bus. They are currently desperate and eating their own, as usual.
One of the greatest films ever made. Enjoyed it in the 80's and still just as relevant now. The 'Kojak' moment still makes me well up - 40 years on!
This is such an amazing film! It's so convincing with the grim and depressing factor of working clasd London in the 80s. All the actors are great in it. Thanks for the upload
One of my favs, grim times but hilarious too.
@@maccagrabme this and Naked , absolute classics
It really is. It's one of my favourite films. Full of up and coming actors who really shine. It has a nice balance of despair and hilarity. There are so many great quotes.
@@alphaprobe1710camel racing comment was a funny little skit 😊
@@DMWBN3 "race em in Egypt dunt they" 😁
Tim Roth and Gary Oldman...You cant get any better than that!
Phil Daniels was good too
@@JoestudlyI came to say "don't you dare leave out Phil Daniels!"
7 years later, they would work together in
Rosencrantz & Guildenstern Are Dead. Both in leading roles also a great film.
oldman, roth and daniels, all we need is a soundtrack by damon albarn and paul weller
@@trajansmethod2050 and THE CLASH
It’s so depressing, Mainly because I remember families like that in the 80s.
Looks like blighty is heading back to those times
Gary Oldman's character is f*ckin' sickly.
@@Napoleonwilson1973never out of them.
@@ExcaliburDawnI knew lots of guys like that in the 80's 👍😮😊👍💯
@zerofox7347 everything about the British working class is depressing hence I don't see the appeal of a film like this !
Tim Roth doesn’t get utilized or respected enough in the states. What an amazing actor.
I love his acting ❤
He's as good as anyone of the so called superstars in Hollywood. Better than most.
Better than Edward Norton?
One of my favorite actors! One of his recent films, Resurrection, was so interesting
He's had great roles in great films
Holy shit I didn't even know it was him til the end credits
I'm from South Africa and growing up poor, this film resonates in ways I cannot fully describe. We didnt have a doll system or council estates....but we experienced the same hardships. This movie hits home so hard. Thanks for uploading...
Ek weet ook ……. Dankie vir die opmerk.
Such a special place in my heart... filmed in part where I grew up in the east end and out on the Essex borders. Bleak and uplifting in equal measures. And the music! Just so hauntingly beautiful. Sadly never commercially released as far as I know. Still watch it about once a year, and always will....
CRITERIOn sells it though.
Outside shots were filmed in 1983 and it was shown at some film festivals later that year including the London Film Festival. It won only one award, at the East Berlin Film Festival (then still a communist state). It was made for TV as part of UK's Channel Four, a new channel back then whose remit was to to be innovative and make the sort of things the other main TV channels never made (the Channel long ago abandoned that creative remit, regretfully). It was screened on TV in Spring of 1984 and a repeat in 1985. Then not seen until it came out on video sale in the mid-90s. But curiously before that it was beeing passed around on illegal video tape in the early 90s in urban art communes so had built up a cult following. The piano music, there was some woman composer who did tunes for quite a few of the Channel Four films back then, it might have been her. Sounds like her work.
You alright Mavis?
Av got the dvd ...Patio ..charming ...Marshmallows
What's the tune ??????????anyone
Its like looking at a mirror of my own existence. Classic Leigh.
A wonderful film, great actors, performances, an improvised Leigh storyline. Just perfect.
Almost 2 hours of realism. Something modern day films fail on spectacularly. This is the early 80s in a nutshell.
back then, people were still asking genuine cultural questions. so movies/tv/music/literature etc were - in fact - just better.
cultural reproduction is always going to suck in comparison. even with huge technological advances
I was looking through Mike Leigh films and found this.
Absolutely Love this film , remarkable acting and heart wrenching at times.
thanks for posting
I'm watching this in2024.Fantastic film.Thanks for uploading. Looking at the previous comments I agree with Tim Roth & Gary Oldmans performances but let's have a big shout to Phil Daniels who also went on to greater things albeit not as mainstream as the aforementioned.
I knew lots of guys like the Gary Oldman character growing up in the 80's👍👍💯
This shows life as it was for us, living under the same roof with people you can’t stand, but are blood related to, so you have no choice about it. I remember it well.
38:15
That little is in fact my older sister 😂 so many times i was reminded growing up that she was in this film. Family History
She seems adorable.
4 years in and it's still here.
Checking it out.😊
In 1981 I was off the balls pond road Hackney in a tenement block.
I f ing hated the place it was so rough. I went to see a friend in East Ham way and we had a lock in with the roughest of strippers on a Sunday afternoon.
This movie brought it all back and you know what I juts thinking how f ing awful it was.
Specially the kicking in the Stoke Newington police station and the black pariah van to Highbury magistrates in the morning.
I can feel that cold wind on my ripped rugby shirt as I trudged back to my digs in Stoke Newington.
Thanks for the reminder I got my degree but you know what London really was a f ing dump and would never want to go through that again.
We were as broke as these guys as students.
Thanks for sharing that.
London is shite along with every city in the UK. London, stab capital of Europe and perhaps the world. What a dump. We ALL know why,
Still is a dump but more murders and more violent now
The scene with the council housing officer is superb, showing the total disconnect between those who have been through the state education/indoctrination system and those who have not. The man is able to waffle on about theoretical bullsh*t he has probably read in the Guardian or heard on the BBC, but he can't give an actual time or date when the work will be done. 'Anthills...yeah?'
That's Peter Wight, who later worked with Leigh on Naked, and a decade later as one of the two dodgy coppers in Early Doors.
After reading your comment then watching the film, it was a complete character reversal to what I expected. I expected some stuck up do-gooder who'd never lived in poverty in his life and played by all the rules. Instead we got some weird eccentric hippie bloke who's role just seemed so surreal and bizarre. I honestly didn't get the message they were going for.
“We got ants??” 😂😂 The guy was talking irrelevant bollocks that would never help people in that family’s situation.
"We got ants" is an antiquated phrase that refers to moles detected in the upper echelons of the business.
This is one of the best films the uk has ever produced!!! Its an underrated classic !!!
Reminds me of my own upbringing with my 2 older brothers who were very similar to the characters in the 80s and early 90s living on a council estate
Thanks for uploading. I love British stuff like this...not always so easy to find here in the States
Check out 'nil by mouth' movie if you can,think you would like it
There are lots of Mike Leigh films on RUclips.
I love it when you find a hidden gem on here..
Thankyou for taking your time to put this little gem up,really appreciate it..
Have a lovely day & Take care 🤘🏻☮🤘🏻☮
If I had ever back chatted my Dad I wouldn't have a head left on my shoulders & I wouldn't be able to sit for a month..My Dad scared the 💩💩 out of me..
@@skullrose8985 You'd have been out of that window *_like bloody lightning !_*
@@steveblundell7766yep my Dad was really strict i have had a few good hidings & the belt..i would never ever back chat my Dad,I'm 47 & i won't swear or back chat or argue with my Dad,i still carry that fear,he's just over 6ft tall aswell..
Anyway have a great day & take care 🤘🏼☮🤘🏼☮
Takes me back. Very grim. I left school in 1984 in Manchester. There was no work. Most just accepted it. It was very depressing. Some went on Youth Training Schemes for 20 quid a week. Everyone bangs on now about how hard it is now, rents are high, cost of living etc. it was much harder than. I was lucky, went in the Royal Navy at 16. I left the UK and settled first in the USA and then Vancouver, BC where I remain.
“You will own nothing and you will be happy” only people who have already lived with nothing know what a crock of sht the WEF is pushing short memories some people, great movie and a bit of British history thanks for the upload.
I found this great Documentary regarding the WEF. In 2020, G20 governments, in collusion with the World Economic Forum’s Stakeholders, discretely and undemocratically enacted a global ten-year transition to an authoritarian political system, called Stakeholder Capitalism.
After propagating a Marxist idea that black and trans people are oppressed and indoctrinating us to fear climate change, the Stakeholders are mandating their pre-planned political system, which its criminal mastermind, Klaus Schwab, alleges is better for ‘people and planet’. ruclips.net/video/A1m4zZvyCxg/видео.html
“You will own nothing and you will be happy”
I believe the first part
Absolute masterpiece by one of the greatest film directors living today
Never heard of this. First time. Kept me on the edge of my seat forever. The question of the day: not if, but *when* are they gonna get violent. Just waiting for the unforgiveable blows or cut-downs or insult that would spell doom. What a beautiful movie.
I love mike leigh movies and in this the music is just as good
cracking film as per Mike Leigh.. Colin eats the dole pen !! brilliant acting all round !!
1:31:15 all the way to the end of the argument, pinpoint accuracy on how familial arguments go down. Nothing but yelling, confusion, backstabbing, accusations, etc. It’s almost too real in this scene. Everyone did a fantastic job and Mike Leigh killed it with the direction.
i fully agree. its spot on. 2 other very realistic arguments are Alison Steadman vs Jane Horrocks in Life is Sweet and Timothy Spalls' speech in Secrets and LIes.
Today the rent for that flat would be roughly 5x what a family like that could afford.
Tim Roth's character was completely different in the Made in Britain movie which was a year before this movie, he was a out of control reckless violent skinhead in Made in Britain, in this movie his character is shy and socially awkward who is afraid of everything and always getting bullied by his family, his brother Mark (Phil Daniels) and Coxy(Gary Oldman) are the rebelling reckless ones in this movie
His character in this movie is clearly supposed to be autistic, I guess people didn't knew it had a name back then
The bad music makes me remember the after-school specials in the late 70s and early 80s. Even a film we would watch in school. Good movie, Gary Oldman!
Yeah! What’s the thought behind that horrible piano plinking!!! I’m sure there’s a good reason, but it’s the one aspect that makes me think ‘made for television.
Anyone remember the single piano high note, played repeatedly in The Day of the Triffids? Terrifying. But very simple.
No one talking about tim roth!
@DMWBN3 Tim Roth acted in this yes. Plenty have commented.
@@Surv1ve_ThriveNot ssen much about Phil & Tom, Phil Daniels was getting quite a few parts off back of Quadrophenia around this time.
This is such an incredible movie, its a document.
It's the best
It's very realistic, I was only 12 when the film came out but it's very much like what life was like then for working class people.
@@Londonfogey Better days
i have a download of this movie that i watched not too long ago but i was so excited to find this upload that i watched it again on the spot. thank you for putting this up, think everyone should see it at least once
Halcyon days
Heart-breaking. And a bit of a nostalgia trip for me. Little details from the 80s I’d forgotten about. Even that kettle! He wasn’t such a bad brother in the end.
A recommendation from the Safdie Brothers. I didn't even know that the Movie existed. It is an absolut Masterpiece.
If it's okay by the safdie bros it's okay by me
Omg Millennial Faces
Tim Roch, amazing, only a year before he was Trevor in made in Britain, you wouldn't know they were the same actor.
Yes, the contrast between Colin and Trevor is stark.
This was a year after Made in Britain not before. Made in Britain was out before this.
Tim Roth get it right
@@fatherpaulstone896 OOOOOOOOOOOO- get you!.. you are a little Madam.
If you're going to sing praise for an actor you really should spell his name correctly....me thinks.... lol.
I always loved the soundtrack to this and wondered how it was achieved. Apparently, it’s a piano that has had nails put through all the hammers
When i first heard it and saw the jogger I thought someone was about to be murdered lol
Then I remembered this from years ago
Many others here in the comments complaining about the soundtrack, but not me and you, ollieclixby. I thought the music for this was perfect. Jarring, yes. BUT THE WHOLE THING IS JARRING! And beautiful.
Tim Roth is an absolute legend, he stole this film. Thanks for sharing it.
First time I've seen this. Reminds me of being a child in the 80's, not in London, south England. Fashion, little things such as carpets & furniture. Quadrophenia was a great film around this time, with Phil Daniels (1979) Made in England with Tim Roth.
The early 1980’s. Margaret Thatcher presided over, & rapidly accelerated, widespread deprivation, racism, riots, poverty, hopelessness. Mike Leigh understood it at all street level. Most struggled while the affluent minority capitalised. These sociological chronicles are invaluable. They should all remain available as lessons to succeeding generations.
Thank you for posting this film here.
If we don’t learn from the past we are destined to make the same mistakes in the future.
Now we just have woke nonsense to contend with.😢
@@HHM706what does woke mean? Billiona ires have eaten your brain and now you blame meaningless words for a world you don't understand
What a blast from the past...excellent cast and awesome repeat play music. Thank you for the share 😊 I want to watch it again! ❤🎉
When idiots, looking back through their rose-tinted glasses of nostalgia telling you how great it was in the ‘Good Old Days’. This how shit it was for us as young people in the early 80s in London.
I just thinking about our life in Colombia. The scene with the washing machine at home. At this time I'm laughing because in this part of the world having a machine was the best of the best. The poverty was terrible but we have also very good time there. Thank you for this movie. I seen this like the beginning of the moovie called 'made in Britain' my favourite actors ❤ skin !
Welcome to the world class Mike Leigh .
Haven't seen this since 86 on channel 4,Gary oldman really nailed the skinhead character ,
As he did in SID,N, NANCY!!!!!
Great scripts are only words on a page without the right actor for that role. Everything Tim Roth touches is stellar. A most brilliant performer.
I think this film was all improvised if i remember, no script
Gary Oldman, as good an actor as it gets...Tim Roth, too... That, alone vouch for a good movie.
Quality! How have i only just discovered this gem after all these decades!!!
The ambient is quite similar than Leigh´s Vera Drake ( 2007 ). Thanks for this!.
Hailing from the US, I never had the chance to see this movie until recently. I admire the gritty realism and enjoy seeing Tim Roth and Gary Oldman early in their careers. I've tracked down a few other similar titles, such as Scum, Made in Britain, and Rhino. If anyone can recommend any others like these, I'd most appreciate it.
Nil by mouth, directed by Gary Oldman and starring Ray Winstone from 1997
McVicar, The Black Panther 1977,
You, Me & Marley... slightly different in that it's set in Northern Ireland during The Troubles... but gritty and raw nonetheless.
'The Firm' Gary Oldman
Whyy is Tim Roth a mouth breather in this?
I think both Damon and Graham from Blur owe most of their career to this film. Watch the videos to Charmless Man and Sunday Sunday...
these were the good times. poor people could afford to go in a pub for a beer and buy cigarettes and people talked and listened to you. no comparison to today. any commentators under 3ß here?
I'd help aunty Barbara with the decorating 😉
Haha so would I!
Aunty Barbara was fit
@@AW-kr9fl80s housewife vibe 😅
It's _my_ job.
I'm getting paid for it.
Her sarcastic attitude made her my favorite character at first viewing
I feel like this is a film that can make me feel different on other viewings
Superb film, very well acted and directed. Felt like a very believable portrayal of the times. Many thanks for sharing this.
Absolute 80's classic film from Mike Leigh, i had it on VHS for many years, so many outstanding performances, I often find myself quoting odd lines from the film "Dont stink it out Frank"
...odd lines from the film such as "don't stink it up Frank!"....
@@Drew823 Or... "Coxy ...wanka"
Easily in my top 20 favorite movies (along with a bunch of other Mike Leigh films).
Such a restrained performance by Tim Roth. He carries the film. Great to watch Gary Oldman early in his career. He has never put in a bad performance.
It’s amazing what a difference having a good script and excellent dialogue will do.
strange little film...but acted very well by all. enjoyed it
The Mask of Death song from Dawn of the Dead 78 starts playing at 15:57 .
The scene they are watching on tv doesn't seem to be from Dawn but it's the song for sure I can confirm that much, you also hear a woman screaming which sounds a lot like the scene when Wooley opens the door that he shouldn't, they also talk about a Colt 45 which could be in the gun store scene.
take a shot everytime someone says ''innit'' and you'll be pished as a fart after the first ten minutes innit 😀
I’m Japanese, so I didn’t understand English very well, but I enjoyed it. Tim Roth is a great actor. Thank you❤
What a cast and never knew about this film, thanks
You guys oughta download this for yourselves incase it gets striked.
Striked? Struck you mean
@@fatherpaulstone896 “well you don’t talk like Mavis….”
@@fatherpaulstone896no I'm fine
Frank was played perfectly by Jeff Roberts.
LIVES OF QUIET DESPERATION
“We got ants?” 😂
Quality line 😂
COLIN !
PUT THAT ARM BACK !
amazing movie!!! love the every little bit of it!!! it couldn't have been more authentic!!! and this is what I like...
Mike Leigh has always been one of my favourite directors since the very first moment I watched one of his films but as time goes by I think he might actually be my favourite.
Here is where I am about to sound poncey, psuedo-intellectual, and arty farty, but whatever...
Some directors make mockumentaries by creating scripted/acted movies disguised as real life situations whereas Mike Leigh creates real life moments disguised as scripted/acted films.
Mikeumenararies.
@poppycock31185 as you (may?) well know Leigh has built an entire career patronizing the English working classes. I'm assuming you're middle class hence your love of him?
@@revol148 I grew up working class
A LOT was like this !
Tha.ks for posting this. I'd never heard of it. I didn't recognize Oldman and Roth until a bit later on. They're so young. I lkve films like this.
We got ants...brilliant. laughed and cried all in about 5 mins...remember being on a YOP £23.50 a week the 80s were a disaster for some of us, certainly the first few years of the decade..
Got way better when the Acid House & rave scene came in. Then they bought in the CJA to put a downer on that.
😢The glorious thatcher years DOOM AND GLOOM
To quote the hostages "A slow slide through the bowels of hell".
I had watched Made in Britain the other day, and this movie was the one I wanted to watch next. Gracias 😎
I did the exact same thing!
Now watch 'nil by mouth'
Been quoting lines from this film for about 20 years lol
One of my favourite films, full of wonderful characters and wonderful actors, never get fed up of watching it, wonderful💗
Brilliant film. Could you upload Grown Ups 1980 if you have it please
In my mind, this is a prequel to Made in Britain.
THANK YOU for this!
What a cast, Phil Daniel’s, Tim Roth, Gary Oldman, Pam Ferris.
Can't believe I haven't seen this before
I haven’t seen this since the early 80s it’s a masterpiece!!
yes "it's my room, get out!" i cheered inside for Colin
Gary oldmen a British acting legend
"It helps us if you tell us about the grain of sand ok, don't wait to tell us about the ant hill." My favorite lines from this movie. I'm always quoting that whole phrase at work and no one has a clue where it's from here in the 2020's South Louisiana.
I lived thru the entire 80s ... it was kind of empty and bare and depressing...but there was palpable change by 85
Took me back to 1980's working class reality, it's like a fly on the wall documentary. Watch the 1970's fly on the wall series "The Family"
I was 17 when this film was released & I was on the dole too so I could relate to this film 100%, 40 years later & it's still a good film, as Roth & Oldman went on to megga stardom;
10 out of 10 friend l was on youth opportunity 40 years ago
I was a rent boy around Piccadilly Circus as well as working for William Hill in the late seventies.
Why do you have to broadcast this? Are you not ashamed?
@@megataurus7779 I was carrying out a test on RUclips to see whether my comment would be deleted as my remarks here on political and particularly religious issues are usually shadow banned or deleted.
@@megataurus7779whats to be ashamed of in this? The rent boy thing or whoever William Hill was?
@@stompinknowledge3968 both
@@megataurus7779 eh, it is was it is. Any sex worker is ten fold more honorable than a banker in a strictly professional sense.
Peter wights housing officer is absolute classic
Peter Wight iis the name.
Tooling for anus
Is our favorite game!
Well that was as interesting as watching paint dry, but thanks for the upload anyway.