Multiclassing Made Solo Fun | Dark and Darker
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- A Video where I don't Hate everything about Multiclassing. Solo Fighter with Phantomize is actually a lot of fun.. Is that so wrong ? There are parts of multiclassing I do enjoy. It will be interesting to see where it goes.
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Fellow spear user here (rogue backflip, backstep, spear prof). I was in the camp of the game is lame because i cant tell who I'm fighting anymore, but you really hit it. I would sacrifice class/match up knowledge for this new level of freedom. I can play what/how I want now. Yeah some meta slave might still be able to W key me with sprint savage roar slayer X class, but I get to work around the base I want now and that is infinitely more fun.
My one wanted to change is that creep should be a general perk available for all classes. You want to play like a rat? lose some power for that.
I think the only way they can bring back class identity while still keeping multiclass, is to make some skills class specific passives... like rogue gets traps/locks passively, fighter gets weapon master passively. Maybe not exactly this but it would remove these skills from the pool of multiclass and make it easier to balance... IMO. But also make masteries of other weapons allow them to be equipped, ie sword mastery means you can use swords (but maybe you need 2h mastery and sword mastery to use 2h swords) etc
I agree, multiclassing is good. People just wanna complain because they're so used to complaining.
I'm one who accepts and embraces multiclass. It's fun and adds some mix-ups to the game to stop barb/lock spam.
Multi class is the most fun thing that has happen to this game for me I get it's not perfect but not many things are but at least it's truly hell of fun specially now that everyone can access it with leveling up being so easy
comentary insight is 10/10 wilson. hope to catch you live soon!
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great video. good to see some trios action with a fun group. sad to see the 3rd party at the end. just how things go I guess
it was fun , we were in some pretty crazy geared lobbies too
I’ve been using spear cleric with intense focus magic missile and shadow touch and it’s been hella fun
Agree wilson now there is at least variety before fighter with slayer+pdr and warlock with caster or melee bop were the only things that had variety in any regard to playstyle and they were essentially just sub classes we still knew what they had exact perks and spells just that they had differences from regular lock and fighter. Now there is genuine diversity in builds at least for now it does make it a bit unfun the pure randomness.
I honestly think if the pregame had a screen where you could see what perks the other guys in lobby had maybe spread out like a LoL loading screen so you could see ok barb with hide, or smite rogue to know if you can fight these things before the literal second a melee engagement starts and they could likewise have some assumption about you. We have this right now but its running around and inspecting people in pre lobby and its bad that's just not a good system you should do it every time but who does because its so tedious a pre lobby screen where you can just see that info without playing tag would be pretty beneficial imo
Definitely the meta meta but multiclassing warlock into cleric has so much synergy. perseverance, advance heal, and over heal all busted not to mention the spells
Bard with slayer sword mastery and rapier mastery is unreal cool
Yeah I love someone hitting me for like 150 dmg a swing it's so cool........
Have you seen the spear and tumble combo Y4mi has a video of it its like backstep on steroids because it has 0 cdr.
interesting.. been seeing a lot of spear lately now
I have mixed feelings on multiclass, it has burnt me out a bit hitting a warlock with ice shield/dark reflect that one taps me with a staff.. but I've also had some fun too. I made a whole double jumping demon form video. Personally a lot of frustration from Dark and Darker for me personally comes from a lack of consistency. You put all this time into learning the game, it's not a forgiving game and it's a painful process sometimes just for them to randomly change the entire game and all your saved items and progress to be wiped(like stats being removed or added onto items worth thousands) or made meaningless. Rollbacks that undo all your questing ect... I know we're still in that early experimentation phase but I wonder if a lot of the reason everyone is so doom and gloom is because they also feel that frustration where you just wanna play your class, play the game you enjoy but every day there is some new broken BS to deal with, some new type of cheater machine gun felling axe you across the room, some new ESP, some new balance change and meta you weren't aware of that you lose to. It's hard to find your footing or really understand why you're succeeding and failing and the multi-class system set up gate keeps people with less time to play. Even normal lobbies people can just buy common grade items while new players are stuck with junk and worse weapons. It's not an easy game to play casually, you'll be punished heavily for lacking the time investment BUT it's also a punishing game to take seriously because you just lose 20k gold kits to some absolute broken nonsense like dark reflection and a lack of consistent balancing. I do love the game but it's pretty hard to play competitively or casually and a lot of people are feeling frustrated, it might not even be multi-classing's fault - people just getting burnt out on being abused beta testers at this point.
I do fully agree with you that there is some fun in playing off meta weirdo builds and enjoying how silly it all is but it's also hard to keep that enthusiasm when you see everyone running the same slayer min max weapon damage add build or bonk staff cactus.
Oh trust me I agree, there are many days where I just wonder why I bother with these oddball builds. However it can feel really rewarding to me when a certain setup really starts to pay off. Originally I was using dual wield long before slayer ever existed and I agree..most times it was futile vs barb buff balls and 85% PDR fighters. Things are hugely experimental ATM but I do believe a lot of the frustrations you point out are also contributing to the multiclass hate. I think it surprised a lot of people and many enjoyers have been waiting to see other things long before ever venturing down this multiclassing journey. I like it, but sadly many take dark and darker very seriously. Everything I see on youtube is (broken) or (op) build ... Or it's people having very negative takes about the new content. The game will never be perfect but I do think it will always be possible to have fun playing dark and darker.
Shield Bash Judgement. Thought you'd ought to know.
Interesting
It's been rough with all the insane builds, but I haven't seen anyone else run it. Been running it with iron will and crossbow mastery. Those help a lot with sprint/rage not in the build.
I'm going to miss multiclass next season if it isn't in there
because its dogshit when a pdr fighter gets 100mr and 15% bonus hp
Yea, I know it's silly sometimes when it's all stacked perfectly. Some combinations just shouldnt be possible