OMG I can't believe this just pay 100 bucks more each for four clamps. CEO's have to eat too. Safety Sally what do you have to say ? "He'll be sorry when he loses an eye welding up clamps, and when one snaps under immense pressure and takes off his arm in the rebound." Well, there you have it, pay an outrageously gouged price hike for a single clamp or die, your choice.
If making your own clamps and learning in the process is the main aspect, a design similar to Klemmsia's Workbench Clamps is something to look out for. It's mostly made from wood and not too complicated or costly to make. Now another point I'd like to mention is that with the exception of the Festool MFT-SP fixed clamps, all the clamps here are holddown clamps providing downward pressure. This is obviously good for glueups, drilling and mostly cutting, but not as great for edge routing or surface operations such as planing or sanding as the clamps get in the way. For these situations low-profile clamping solutions which clamp from the side or work on friction are oftentimes preferable. For friction, one of the cheaper methods would be those fishnet-lookalike anti-slip mats for drawers and such, or bench cookies (or similar). The latter have the added advantage of lifting the workpiece off your work surface so you don't accidientially cut, drill or route into it. For side-pressure aside from aforementioned Festool MFT-SP fixed clamps there's a variety of different methods available. The most elegant solution I have seen yet was shown by Pask Makes in his Mini Workbench ( ruclips.net/video/JMmvyaBUhO8/видео.html ) and make clever use of a Moxxon-style vise and dogholes for side-pressure clamping. Here you can also achieve some downward pressure by using bench dogs which have a slight taper. There's also various other clamps which do this, such as Veritas' Bench Blade and various handmade or 3D printed solutions. Another neat concept I have seen is using quick clamps in a spreader configuration either against bench dogs, or (semi-)permanently being affixed to bench dogs.
These are some brilliant ideas, thanks for sharing! I'll definitely be making some of the harbor freight style clamps. Another design for homemade dog hole clamps I've seen is by Paoson Woodworking. They're a bit more labor intensive to make, but seem brilliantly simple to use. Here's a link to the video if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/ZF-BBSj2BSM/видео.html
Awesome video on clamps. I've been wanting some clamps for my table, but can't justify the cost of the festool ones. I love the different options and how you explained why you abandoned certain ones and created new ones.
Taking the $150.00 and buying a tig welder makes perfect sense to me. The same way my buying a HK55 to cut 12 rafters saved me money because I would not be paying a helper to hold all that work.
Lmfao at how to justify a tig welder. Been there done that, didn't regret it one inch 😁 As for expensive Vs cheap clamps. Can HIGHLY recommend whipping up a couple of these side clamps too. Cheap as dirt and I use existing dogs for the post. He also does a next vid of adding some integrated spacers but I've not needed those yet myself. ruclips.net/video/bpJyqLoqV04/видео.html
Funny. I do/did the same thing and bought the AHP. I hate the requirement to need two hands for the clamps. The modified welding clamp is interesting but I love the Harbor Freight clamp idea. I hate those clamps when used as normal clamps but for this app, perfect.
This is the first I’ve heard of it. Looks very nice! I’d personally probably be more annoyed by the additional slots to catch small parts, and don’t feel like buying the track clamps. BUT for someone who does a lot of assembly and can dedicate an assembly table to it, it’s probably ideal. Looks clever and like a reasonable option.
@@KeithsTestGarage If you start off with the clamp not opened up all the way you can just hold the outside end of the metal bar between your pinkie and palm, and then push the sliding jaw along with your thumb. Only need to use the squeeze grip for final tightening.
I double checked your math for saving money by not buying expensive clamps. You came out WAY ahead and did the right thing buying the TIG setup. Just remember these words: "But Honey, it was on SALE! I saved a LOT of money!" Hey, they use that line on us, right?
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Would love to see #3!
i'm still waiting for #3 bench dogs....;-) Thanks!
Me too. Those 3D printed ones looked interesting.
@@cray-still waiting!!
Add me to the list of people waiting for MFSlab #3 😊
lol I think you're my woodshop spirit animal. Keep up the amazing work man, I love the content
OMG I can't believe this just pay 100 bucks more each for four clamps. CEO's have to eat too. Safety Sally what do you have to say ?
"He'll be sorry when he loses an eye welding up clamps, and when one snaps under immense pressure and takes off his arm in the rebound."
Well, there you have it, pay an outrageously gouged price hike for a single clamp or die, your choice.
If making your own clamps and learning in the process is the main aspect, a design similar to Klemmsia's Workbench Clamps is something to look out for. It's mostly made from wood and not too complicated or costly to make.
Now another point I'd like to mention is that with the exception of the Festool MFT-SP fixed clamps, all the clamps here are holddown clamps providing downward pressure. This is obviously good for glueups, drilling and mostly cutting, but not as great for edge routing or surface operations such as planing or sanding as the clamps get in the way. For these situations low-profile clamping solutions which clamp from the side or work on friction are oftentimes preferable.
For friction, one of the cheaper methods would be those fishnet-lookalike anti-slip mats for drawers and such, or bench cookies (or similar). The latter have the added advantage of lifting the workpiece off your work surface so you don't accidientially cut, drill or route into it.
For side-pressure aside from aforementioned Festool MFT-SP fixed clamps there's a variety of different methods available. The most elegant solution I have seen yet was shown by Pask Makes in his Mini Workbench ( ruclips.net/video/JMmvyaBUhO8/видео.html ) and make clever use of a Moxxon-style vise and dogholes for side-pressure clamping. Here you can also achieve some downward pressure by using bench dogs which have a slight taper.
There's also various other clamps which do this, such as Veritas' Bench Blade and various handmade or 3D printed solutions.
Another neat concept I have seen is using quick clamps in a spreader configuration either against bench dogs, or (semi-)permanently being affixed to bench dogs.
Why not just a hold fast?
the clamps at 4.00 why not weld a much longer 20mm rod to the clamp then slide it up and down in the hole to suit the piece being clamped
The mental gymnastics for rationalizing tools. Yep.
Look at this welding montage. Great shots. All figured out and pretty.
These are some brilliant ideas, thanks for sharing! I'll definitely be making some of the harbor freight style clamps.
Another design for homemade dog hole clamps I've seen is by Paoson Woodworking. They're a bit more labor intensive to make, but seem brilliantly simple to use. Here's a link to the video if you're interested: ruclips.net/video/ZF-BBSj2BSM/видео.html
Awesome video on clamps. I've been wanting some clamps for my table, but can't justify the cost of the festool ones. I love the different options and how you explained why you abandoned certain ones and created new ones.
Taking the $150.00 and buying a tig welder makes perfect sense to me. The same way my buying a HK55 to cut 12 rafters saved me money because I would not be paying a helper to hold all that work.
I agree with your analysis.
Was there a video on diy dogs?
Lmfao at how to justify a tig welder. Been there done that, didn't regret it one inch 😁
As for expensive Vs cheap clamps. Can HIGHLY recommend whipping up a couple of these side clamps too. Cheap as dirt and I use existing dogs for the post. He also does a next vid of adding some integrated spacers but I've not needed those yet myself.
ruclips.net/video/bpJyqLoqV04/видео.html
Funny. I do/did the same thing and bought the AHP. I hate the requirement to need two hands for the clamps. The modified welding clamp is interesting but I love the Harbor Freight clamp idea. I hate those clamps when used as normal clamps but for this app, perfect.
How would you compare a DIY Match Fit setup to yours?
This is the first I’ve heard of it. Looks very nice! I’d personally probably be more annoyed by the additional slots to catch small parts, and don’t feel like buying the track clamps. BUT for someone who does a lot of assembly and can dedicate an assembly table to it, it’s probably ideal. Looks clever and like a reasonable option.
Is there a part #3?
third - tertiary.
All I heard
Here's how to justify a Tig Welder
Great ideas. Subbed. Should have bought a welder years ago, am I right?
They are very handy. I’d recommend starting with MIG
@@KeithsTestGarage welded in a fab shop for 9 years. Somethings are just easier with a welder.
On those quick clamps put a bolt through the metal right after the bend so you can one-handed push down without it going all the way through the table
Or weld 90degree tabs on each side
Brilliant. This would fix that.
@@KeithsTestGarage If you start off with the clamp not opened up all the way you can just hold the outside end of the metal bar between your pinkie and palm, and then push the sliding jaw along with your thumb. Only need to use the squeeze grip for final tightening.
I'm sooo looking forward to seeing you TIG weld.
skip me and watch This Old Tony instead.
@@KeithsTestGarage Tony's awesome too, but we get to see your face! 😁
I’m sorry for that
Can't find the mfdogs video
"This shouldn't work"
Refined outro groove.
Dude, your humor rocks! :)
Awesome!!!!
Now weld a welding clamp to a quick clamp
How so?
@@KeithsTestGarage that’s the issue, most quick clamps are some sort of pot metal.
I double checked your math for saving money by not buying expensive clamps. You came out WAY ahead and did the right thing buying the TIG setup.
Just remember these words: "But Honey, it was on SALE! I saved a LOT of money!"
Hey, they use that line on us, right?