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Both great calibers and two absolutely beautiful Walnut stocked Weatherby rifles 😍 I can’t find any faults whatsoever with either caliber honestly. To me they’re both flat shooters and way more than capable of 200+ yard shots without any difficulties. Great video as usual and definitely keep ‘em coming WTW👍
@@ryanjacobs4258 Too light for elk? I’ve killed a couple of cow elk with a 270 shooting 150 partitions and watched my cousin kill two bulls with the same rifle shooting the same load. One of the bulls was quartering away at about 250 yards and the 150 partition destroyed his lungs. The bull walked about 30 yards and collapsed.
Would really like to see the 130 for the 270 and the 100 grain for the 243. That 80 grain is a varmint load. Really suprised it went as far as it did. Great rounds though. I really like the 87 v-max in 243. Very accurate.
@@thesheepman220 seems like the 85's and 87's run well in a 1/9 ish twist. I have some of the Berger too but have not loaded them yet. 85 Interbond have shot well for me also. Kinda pricey though.
I believe the .243 is an excellent cartridge for varmints up to medium sized game, deer, hogs, etc. For game larger than that elk, moose, black bear I would go with the .270. Nice demonstration WTW!
I have rifles chambered in both calibers and I have taken deer and hog no problem with both rifles. I shoot 130 grain out of my .270 and 100 grain out of my .243. Both great guns and will get the job done. Can't go wrong either way.
Same here 270-130g my 243-100g both Remington cor-loc ammo.seems most of the time with 243 deer drop immediately.with my 270 deer most of time run about 20 to 30 yds.This is with me shooting the deer 50yds out to 250yds.same drop/run situations that I see every time.I believe the 243 delivers more shock upon impact of the bullet.all shot behind shoulder. Have you seen these same results with your rifles. Just curious
@@darrylcook2845 I typically keep my shots within 150 yards with my 243. However with my 270 I try and stay within 300 yards. But with that said, almost everything I have taken with my 243 drops instantly with a shot placed right behind the shoulder. My 270 has dropped a lot of animals with the same shot placement as well, but even at closer ranges, I have noticed that more of them tend to run a little. My 243 is a pre 64 Winchester model 70, so I don't really take it out much anymore. I have been seriously considering buying a new rifle chambered in 243. Probably a Savage. That way I don't have to worry about damaging my model 70. It was my first deer rifle, and was given to me for my 7th birthday by someone who has since passed away.
.243 was the first true rifle I ever fired and then owned. I own more rifles today, but the .243 will always be my go-to rifle when hunting. Unless you are hunting Grizzly, you don't need much more than this to humanely put down your game. But for the larger bore hunters, Nothing wrong with the .270 or larger. Just harder to train the youth when they start flinching. Stick with what you know, don't tell anyone one is better than the other. The only thing that matters at the end of the day is a well-placed shot will Always bring home the game.
I use a 270, 130 gr. ballistic tip for deer hunting in the south for the past 35 years, never lost a deer and the longest distance from the point of impact was 20 yards, awesome gun and round
The .270 150 grain is the largest bullet for that caliber. A more fair comparison would be a 100 grain bullet from the .243. I believe the 80 grain bullet is more of a varmint round designed to explode on impact. The 150 grain from the .270 is a big game hunting round designed to retain mass and expand with a large wound channel. I have both calibers and either one is perfect medicine for the whitetail deer that I hunt.
I got a Winchester model 70 in 270 that was made in 1968 from my uncle that passed away two years ago and all the ammo I could find for it was Winchester copper impact 130 grain and monarch 150 grain and it shoots both brands really good never owned a 243 so I can't say to much about the 243 except my uncle killed an elk with his 243 at 230 yards just to prove a point to his brother that shot placement is a key factor in taking game
Hootey A much better comparison would have been the 130 in 270 and 100 grained in the 243. Those are the much more popular weights for deer hunting. Another thing I would like to see you do would be some of your penetration tests with some of the premium hunting loads using Nosler, and Barnes as well as some of the other high end bullets. Keep up the good work Buddy
I know what a .243 feels like. I carried on in my left lung for 40 years till I coughed t out at work one day. I was shot in the back when I was 12 years old hunting elk with my dad. I shot a big 8 point and was carrying the head , heart, and liver on a pack board on my back and standing on top of a road cut when all of a sudden I was laying in the ditch with a horrible pain in my back. My dad and older brother had to pack me out.The stupid doctor couldn't find anything except a small hole in my back and blew it off. It showed up years later on an x=ray I had.
I know of a couple of dozen deer and hogs that seem to believe the .243 was more than adequate. They all spent time in my freezers before arriving on my table.
I generally stop with antelope with the .243. I love the round and the Ruger 77 that's chambered for it. I've used it on mule deer. But even though they're only slightly larger, it doesn't seem to stop them as fast as I would like. So I use an 06 or 7mm on larger than antelope.
This is great!!! Ive been waiting for you to bring back the good old paper plates! Thats damn near your trademark. No one else does this and idk why the results are always amazing. I really dont know what id pick i guess it depends on the GR weight your using in the .243 because both these have some serious boogie on em! Its gonna be super close and should be a great video. Thank you WTW🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks to the hardest working man on guntube! I'm not surprised at the result, as the 270 was a heavy-for-caliber big game bullet, and the .243 was a medium weight varmint and predator boo-lot.
That was a interesting result between them 2 considering the difference’s in there ballistics,and calibers,I’ll just say both are excellent and both are my favorites among many on my list of my preferred
I find it humorous that anyone would ask for this particular matchup! That being said, the grain difference is substantial. Most .270 barrels use a 1:10 twist-rate, which limits bullets weighing more than 150-grains. Accuracy is significantly reduced with higher grain numbers, as is muzzle velocity. There are cartridges in 90 to 100 grains with mid 3k mv, not to mention that the twist rate would have stabilized better/quicker and would have dug a little deeper into the plates, for the 270, closely matching the 243 90 you were using for this trial, but regardless, the 270 would win, without trouble. I have studied the calibers when looking for my go-to rifle. While I shot a 270 a few times, I never purchased one. 30-30, 308, 30-06..... These are my favorites for big game animals. I have a Rosi JR for when my son was little and an old Western Auto (Savage A-Bolt), both in 243 for turkey and small game. (One of my PB was a 480 yard kill shot on a coyote, iron sights with the Western!) Still, I enjoy your videos immensely! Show me a 338 v 300! LOL!
I have owned both at one time or another and taken many deer with both but I ended up getting rid of my .270 because as I age I don’t enjoy recoil. I actually got rid of my .243 and got a 7mm08 which also what my wife hunts with, no more having to carry 2 different cartridges and I always have my 30-30 for back up
I have a 243 and a 270wsm. I prefer the 243 because it's way cheaper to shoot and it doesn't have near as much recoil. Also, it's a youth model, so it's nice and compact
I like the 300 savage the best of all my hunting rounds but it's gettin expensive to shoot much. I've got 140gr hand loads to average 3000fps out of my model 99 and still not a ton of recoil and thats pushin a 300 savage.
Have hunted with both prefer the bigger bullet if blood trail is needed Sometimes you don't get your ideal shot And bullets sometimes take unusual turns when hitting bone have hunted with many calibers over the years like the 6.5 Grendel now fun little round to shoot
Yes you are the hardest working RUclips gunman around! And you're always dealing with the things that I just love! Your scope from small to large bore semi-automatics to bolt action lever action you name it! I want to tell you I've had fun watching every one of your videos just like you said I would! For as much hard work as you do it's a good thing that you're a millionaire! Or you should be?
I use both calibers. Love them both. The only reason I use the 270 more is because it’s a Weatherby Vanguard and is a little more accurate than my 243 Remington 770 at longer distance. But both always get the deer, coyotes or what I’m after.
Heck yeah 👍 just finished my first long distance target rifle in .243 I don't think it will fare good against a .270 but I guess I'll see in 30 minutes
The 243 is very versatile. You can load up 55 or 60 grain bullets at 3,900 FPS easily for varmints and ground squirrels. 85-87 grain billets doing about 34-3,500 FPS is more than capable of taking deer/pigs.
I have both calibers and have never thought about them being in the same class. I like both but for different uses. The 243 is great up to deer sized game and the 270 can handle bigger animals like elk at reasonable ranges. These tests are interesting for sure.
I’ve owned both 243 & 270 and they will both kill deer. I now hunt with 30 06,308 and 260 Remington which also all kill deer. There are many calibers that are good deer hunting choices,it’s just a matter of preference. Thanks for the video wtw 👍👍
I own hunting rifles .243 Win, .250 Savage, .257 Roberts, 25-06, 6.5x55, .270 Win, .280 Rem, 30-30, .300 Savage, .308 Win and 30-06. They all work equally well in taking Deer and Antelope. Yes, some shoot flatter. But they all work well. Have taken many antelope at ranges of 300 yrs with the .250 Savage with a 100 grain bullet at 2900 fps.
Because I’m a 45/70 type of person I prefer the 270 over the 243 but from your test I still I still prefer the 270 because it didn’t disintegrate like the 243 did. So there’s hopefully less waste of the animal when you’re cutting out the bullet damage.
That's what I have been wondering : how do you handle either the lead dust or like some rounds unburnt gun powder ? Maybe washing the cavity or just cutting around wound cavity ? Although some wound cavities are huge due to bullets breaking apart . Although I do see in videos the FMJ'D and bonded bullets do hold together the best .
@@Airon79 if your using proper hunting bullets on game you won't have an issue with lead dust in the meat. Hunting bullets are built to retain weight and expand evenly. Varmint bullets on the other hand are designed to come apart to have maximum shock in predators and/or Varmints. The 80 grain bullet he used with the 243 was a Varmint bullet. Deer hunting with a 243, I personally wouldn't use anything under 100 grains.
I’d really like to see the 270 Win, 130 gr round for deer go up against the 243 Win , 100 gr round for deer. I don’t doubt that the 270 would still win but, besides being a more equal representation of each round, I believe that the bullet construction would be much more comparable. Varmint rounds aren’t built like rounds for bigger game. Many moons ago I had a 243 and my wife had a 270. My eldest child had a 30-06. There weren’t many critters in New Mexico that would need other rounds. A 243 is legal for elk here but you better put the right bullet in the right spot within the right range if you want to kill one. Heck, my dad killed his elk in 110-120 yards with a lever action Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. It’s all about hunting, not sniping!
243 Remington 700 ADL and Remington 700 30 ought 6 and I don't have a 270 so it'd be one of those two. But I kind of like to 243 my only drawback on a 243. It doesn't have anything over a hundred grain in the lead which I don't know what they do now or not. Just very well since I've been hunting but I have hunted deer with both of them
I am wondering if you can do a plate test with a 243 v 25-06 or 25-06 v 270? Or milk jug test. I've got a 25-06 and I really love it's preformance on deer and pronghorn.
I feel like this test was biased in favor of the 270, for 2 reasons. First, the types of bullets used. The 150 grain Power Point in the 270 is a game bullet designed to expand and penetrate. The 80 grain jacketed soft point Varmint and Predator bullet in the 243 is designed for rapid expansion and fragmentation as seen in the results here. Second, the 270 had a heavy for caliber bullet with a high sectional density of .279 while the 243 had a light for caliber bullet with a sectional density of only .193. I would like to see the test repeated with more closely matched loads. The Winchester 270 Super X load with a 130 grain Power Point has a sectional density of .242 while the Winchester 243 Super X load with a 100 grain Power Point bullet also has a sectional density of .242. Winchester shows the 270 load at 3060 feet per second and the 243 load at 2960 feet per second. 2 bullets of the same type with nearly equal speeds and sectional densities would make for a very interesting test!
I've shot both calibers but I've never hunted with either. My dad's hunted Mule deer, Black bear and Moose with a .243 and taken all 3 successfully with it. I know guys that have take everything from Whitetail to Elk and Moose with both the .243 and .270.
Love my .243! It has low recoil, turns whitetail lungs to jelly, and ammo is available everywhere (if you forget yours). I lend mine out to youth hunters (with adult supervision) in Michigan's youth hunt. As a friend said when I got the .243. "That's a womans gun, I wish I had one". I've never seen a deer go 20 yards with a lung shot.
Where I buy ammo the price for .270 and .308 is the same. Availability varies from week to week. What is odd, is how 6.5 Creedmoor or .350 Legend will be available when .270 and .308 are not. And vice versa. So when I go out shooting with the grandkids and friends. I never know what I will be able to take.
@@DinoNucci Which 6.5? The Creedmoor has 62kpsi vs 55kpsi of the Swede. The 6.5 PRC is a magnum, and shoots very nice. The trend of the new cartridges is for hunting in areas with human encroachment on animal habitats. Think the 350 Legend and the 450 Bushmaster. Or a faster twist and longer bullets to get better physics out of a cartridge. And are typically short and fat. While I do have a semi-auto .308. Most of my rifles are bolt action. I don't shoot my old military surplus rifles any more (no ammo). But mini-action, short-action, and long action are the same to me. As for carrying a distance, the strap matters to me. I like my bullpup rifle and shotgun for going through the brush. But getting back to the ammo. While the suppliers may have their preferences. But ammo will go through supply chain strategies from the MBA crowd. That will have just a few cartridges at a volume price. And everything else will become a boutique cartridge. With really bad prices and availability. And the hoarding will drive profitability for the MBA crowd. So we need to take our time between shots. And not waste ammo.
Adam try this one time. What I've done to test penetration and expansion is to take an old cooler (either an old igloo or a Styrofoam) about a 36 quart size. I pack it as tight as I can with news paper, then fill it with water. Let it sit overnight. Then put it at 100 yards and hit it. When you check it you can actually see the energy transfer and increasing expansion through it. Put something behind just in case the boolot makes it through. I've used this method to test my 180 gr. Barnes TSX's that I load for Elk.
Had a 243 since i started hunting, was my first rifle and have always used a 80gr round. Have shot red deer out to 350 meters stil sits them on the deck. I do have other rifles but its still my go to, Especially with availability and affordability here in new zealand.
The .270 is always my choice, would've liked to see a 130 grain boo-lott. Those dinky 80 grain .243's aren't really comparable to those 150s'(light vs heavy for caliber). Excellent video dude!
Enjoyed the test but I would use the two most common rounds used by these calibers to hunt which is 130g 270 and 100g 243. I think the results would be a lot closer with that scenario. Keep the videos coming brotha!
I have never shot a 270 so I don't know what to think, I have shot 5 deer with a 243 and haven't ever had to track one more than 40 yards, I shot 1 deer with a 30-06 and tracked it more than 1/2 a mile. I use a 243 now and love it. I just got a 6.5 Grendel upper for my AR-15, I'm going to see how well it works next season.
Very nice video. I have both 270 and 243 in Browning blr platform. I handload for them and find it a hard choice each deer season. A buddy of mine took a large 8 pt a year ago at 300yds with his 243, complete pass through and the deer dropped on the spot. This hunting season I took a 6pt buck at 250 yds also with complete pass through. I've also taken deer with 6.5cm. I prefer my 270 and 243 over the 6.5cm.
Two popular calibers that been around for many years. Both have a big following and have proven their usefulness many times over. Good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 🎥💯👍🙏🏻
Out of those two I would choose the 270. But when I use to hunt and growing up my preferred rifle of choice was a marlin 30-30 lever action. I have taken whitetails all over Texas from 50 vrds all the way out to 300 yards with no problems and most were head shots. You can't eat them racks so I try and save as much meat as I possibly could by making head shots. I hunted for food not trophies.
OK FIRST EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!! I like heavy bullets yet in one of your videos you shot through AR500 armor and used many different cartridges! The ONLY TWO that went through it were the 50BMG and the 243!! I'll take the rounds you used in the 243 and keep that!! Lol.
I own a number of rifles that I hunt with. I had also hunted with 30 caliber rifles until I bought a Ruger 243 rifle as a favor to help out a friend. I didn't think too much of it for hunting deer, until I killed my first deer with it. I use 100 grain bullets and shot them in the neck or the head. They don't wiggle after they are hit. Great caliber! I own lots of different caliber rifles including the 270 which is a great hunting caliber, but I normally grab my trusty 243 when I go to the woods. If I am hunting dangerous game from the ground I want the 270 or a larger caliber for a little more margin.
When i was young. I placed a Quarter On the top surface of sand, Shot a 45 into the quarter, It buried the quarter pretty deep into the sand Without penetrating. It imprinted The head side graphic of the quarter into the Bullet like a fingerprint. Turned the quarter into an umbrella shape. I still have the bullet and the quarter. You should try this. Im sure you will have the same Souvenir when you're done. 👍
243 isn’t what I would call a deep penetrator.. it flys fast and “ flat “ and creates a massive hydraulic shock.. is it better than a .270? Sometimes and sometimes not.. there isn’t any perfect caliber for all situations. I love my .243 but wouldn’t take it on a moose hunt.. love the content WtW 👍
I’ve taken many hogs with a .243, my hunting buddy uses a .270 and while hunting together we’ve never lost a hog. Both calibers do just fine if the shooter does his part.
The 270 win will do EVERYTHING THE 243 win can do AND THEN A HECK WAY MORE!! !! Also choice of bullet grain weight ,as well as construction types is ANOTHER Area the 270 excells over 243 win.. Recoil is Very Important to some shooters . 243 is Absolute Best, at least recoil .. Thanks Great info demonstrated..
I went through that same argument (270 vs 243) with myself many rears ago. After much testing to assure a clean kill I decided: All of my game hunting rifles are now .308. For other purposes I use 45-70 and 22lr. I don't use or buy a lot of varied calibers. Powder loads and bullet weights can be varied to suit any desired performance.
Me and my son and two grandsons all went to the deerwoods last year we each one took a deer one with a 243 two with a 270 and one with a 30-06 either of those rifles is enough for a deer
I have had both. Took my first 2 deer with my F-I-L's R721 in .270W. I have killed more deer with .243 than any other caliber. Both are great. I'd pick the .270 for hunting game larger than whitetail, but here in LA, the .243 most often gets the nod.
Another great video that displays the difficulty of calculating penetration. A more appropriate comparison Adam would be the American Standard .270 vs the Government Sig Standard.277 shot at 100 yards ie. 91.4 meters. Approximate conversion: Meter = 1.1 yards. Both bullets should be non-expanding FMJ (SD = (bullet weight in grains/7000) / bullet diameter^2) for this test because in hunting bullets we would need the terminal diameter of extracted bullets in a two-part test. TSD = (recovered-bullet weight in grains/7000) / recovered-bullet diameter^2) Who-Dee-Who knew hunting would rely on physics and mathematics (lol) Sorry Adam, I was a Science Major back in the '70s whose professors at the Cow College were WW2-German Scientists, for what it is worth I'll be going with the AR15 6.5 Grendel unless BCA puts the AR10 in .308 or 6.5 on sale like it was last March...
I live in Australia so don't have huge game so the 243 is a great all rounder , flat shooting easy recoil. But if hunting scub bulls or buffalo you'd want the 270 or something even bigger . It's comes down to the right tool for the job . Both rounds are awesome and of course good to own both if you can 😁
270 is my got too!!! I was shooting 300 smw it's over kill so I went down to 270 and been there every since. I thought about 243 but I'm heavy on 270 now so there's my thoughts.
my first hunting rifle was a 243 and i took many deer and antelope with it. i loved the way it shot even at longer distance. so i guess im a little more partial but my dad just got his first 270 a couple years ago after being a big 30 cal and 6.5 swede guy his whole life. he swears up and down its the best hunting rifle hes ever owned. gun is a winchester 70 superlight.
A 100 grain bullet should have been used for that .243 with this comparison in all fairness … that 80 grainer is a varmint load that has extreme eruption characteristics not intended for deep penetration. A good Nosler Partition 100 grain bullet loaded for that .243 Winchester takes care of business on big muscly whitetail bucks no problem 😉
I have killed 5 deer with a 243 and have never had to track one more than 40 yards, I killed 1 deer with a 30-06 and had to track it over 1/2 a mile. I don't know how to explain it, but that is what happened.
Never tracked any deer more than about fifty yards, never had a hog go more than three steps with my .243….. I haven’t been hunting long with it, just since 1977. Lol 😂
My uncle used to hunt deer with a.243 and I was glad whenever he decided to get a .270. I learned to track too. Better ammo is available for the.243 now than it was 30 years ago.
@@jasonsliger5430 I have been hunting with my .243 since 1977, never had to track anything. Deer, bear, or boar and all the smaller critters that met their demise with that Remington 700 BDL. Longest shot was a measured 370 yards, shortest about 30 feet, lol.
Had both kept 270 as it does the job on deer very well definitely gives a margin for error if needed great video should repeat this with monolithic projectiles look forward to seeing more like this 👍👍
Which one is your favorite? 243 or 270???
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. 243 is sufficient but .270 is even more so. Whatever you feel more comfortable with is what's best for you.
I like both.
Both great calibers and two absolutely beautiful Walnut stocked Weatherby rifles 😍 I can’t find any faults whatsoever with either caliber honestly. To me they’re both flat shooters and way more than capable of 200+ yard shots without any difficulties. Great video as usual and definitely keep ‘em coming WTW👍
I actually like both rounds
270
I am a 30 cal guy all the way. But I can’t deny that the 270 is way ahead of its time. One of the absolute best hunting cartridges ever made.
what 30 cal is your favorite
@@ryanjacobs4258 Too light for elk? I’ve killed a couple of cow elk with a 270 shooting 150 partitions and watched my cousin kill two bulls with the same rifle shooting the same load. One of the bulls was quartering away at about 250 yards and the 150 partition destroyed his lungs. The bull walked about 30 yards and collapsed.
I love 30 cal to but 243 is a very good round to shoot bc u have such a wide range of gr bullet u can find one for anything in North America
@@ryanjacobs4258 Ok…
I love a 30 cal also but a monster 1 in 5 years deer may break 150lbs most around 110lbs.
Would really like to see the 130 for the 270 and the 100 grain for the 243. That 80 grain is a varmint load. Really suprised it went as far as it did. Great rounds though. I really like the 87 v-max in 243. Very accurate.
i use the same 87 vmax great round
When I use these a 130 .270 and 100 grain .243 is what I use and concur with the statement comparing these two calibers and bullet weights.
I also like the 87 grn Berger hunting round in the 243 win
@@thesheepman220 seems like the 85's and 87's run well in a 1/9 ish twist. I have some of the Berger too but have not loaded them yet. 85 Interbond have shot well for me also. Kinda pricey though.
I use 95 grain hornedy ballistic tips
I believe the .243 is an excellent cartridge for varmints up to medium sized game, deer, hogs, etc. For game larger than that elk, moose, black bear I would go with the .270. Nice demonstration WTW!
I have rifles chambered in both calibers and I have taken deer and hog no problem with both rifles. I shoot 130 grain out of my .270 and 100 grain out of my .243. Both great guns and will get the job done. Can't go wrong either way.
Same here 270-130g my 243-100g both Remington cor-loc ammo.seems most of the time with 243 deer drop immediately.with my 270 deer most of time run about 20 to 30 yds.This is with me shooting the deer 50yds out to 250yds.same drop/run situations that I see every time.I believe the 243 delivers more shock upon impact of the bullet.all shot behind shoulder.
Have you seen these same results with your rifles. Just curious
@@darrylcook2845 I typically keep my shots within 150 yards with my 243. However with my 270 I try and stay within 300 yards. But with that said, almost everything I have taken with my 243 drops instantly with a shot placed right behind the shoulder. My 270 has dropped a lot of animals with the same shot placement as well, but even at closer ranges, I have noticed that more of them tend to run a little. My 243 is a pre 64 Winchester model 70, so I don't really take it out much anymore. I have been seriously considering buying a new rifle chambered in 243. Probably a Savage. That way I don't have to worry about damaging my model 70. It was my first deer rifle, and was given to me for my 7th birthday by someone who has since passed away.
.243 was the first true rifle I ever fired and then owned.
I own more rifles today, but the .243 will always be my go-to rifle when hunting.
Unless you are hunting Grizzly, you don't need much more than this to humanely put down your game.
But for the larger bore hunters, Nothing wrong with the .270 or larger. Just harder to train the youth when they start flinching.
Stick with what you know, don't tell anyone one is better than the other. The only thing that matters at the end of the day is a well-placed shot will Always bring home the game.
308w does everything a hunter needs it just needs tuning for use,
.243 gets the job done as does the .270 on deer sized game. You decide what you are comfortable with and that's the best round for you the shooter.
Greatly appreciate video of the 270 !! My go to for 5 Decades!!!! You've made my day thanks so much!!
I use a 270, 130 gr. ballistic tip for deer hunting in the south for the past 35 years, never lost a deer and the longest distance from the point of impact was 20 yards, awesome gun and round
The .270 150 grain is the largest bullet for that caliber. A more fair comparison would be a 100 grain bullet from the .243. I believe the 80 grain bullet is more of a varmint round designed to explode on impact. The 150 grain from the .270 is a big game hunting round designed to retain mass and expand with a large wound channel.
I have both calibers and either one is perfect medicine for the whitetail deer that I hunt.
I got a Winchester model 70 in 270 that was made in 1968 from my uncle that passed away two years ago and all the ammo I could find for it was Winchester copper impact 130 grain and monarch 150 grain and it shoots both brands really good never owned a 243 so I can't say to much about the 243 except my uncle killed an elk with his 243 at 230 yards just to prove a point to his brother that shot placement is a key factor in taking game
Hootey
A much better comparison would have been the 130 in 270 and 100 grained in the 243.
Those are the much more popular weights for deer hunting.
Another thing I would like to see you do would be some of your penetration tests with some of the premium hunting loads using Nosler, and Barnes as well as some of the other high end bullets.
Keep up the good work Buddy
I know what a .243 feels like. I carried on in my left lung for 40 years till I coughed t out at work one day. I was shot in the back when I was 12 years old hunting elk with my dad. I shot a big 8 point and was carrying the head , heart, and liver on a pack board on my back and standing on top of a road cut when all of a sudden I was laying in the ditch with a horrible pain in my back. My dad and older brother had to pack me out.The stupid doctor couldn't find anything except a small hole in my back and blew it off. It showed up years later on an x=ray I had.
Team .270, 140 grain Sierra Gamechangers work wonders on deer
I absolutely loved my Savage Axis II in .243.
I know of a couple of dozen deer and hogs that seem to believe the .243 was more than adequate. They all spent time in my freezers before arriving on my table.
I'd still love to see. 270 vs 25-06 ballistics are vary similar.
I generally stop with antelope with the .243. I love the round and the Ruger 77 that's chambered for it. I've used it on mule deer. But even though they're only slightly larger, it doesn't seem to stop them as fast as I would like. So I use an 06 or 7mm on larger than antelope.
I like it when you pull out those Weatherby’s. Classic style! Both great calibers.
This is great!!! Ive been waiting for you to bring back the good old paper plates! Thats damn near your trademark. No one else does this and idk why the results are always amazing. I really dont know what id pick i guess it depends on the GR weight your using in the .243 because both these have some serious boogie on em! Its gonna be super close and should be a great video. Thank you WTW🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks to the hardest working man on guntube! I'm not surprised at the result, as the 270 was a heavy-for-caliber big game bullet, and the .243 was a medium weight varmint and predator boo-lot.
My favorite is the 270
Ya need to use 100 gr in the 243 you get more penetration especially for deer hunting !
That was a interesting result between them 2 considering the difference’s in there ballistics,and calibers,I’ll just say both are excellent and both are my favorites among many on my list of my preferred
They are both necked-down versions of older 30cal cartridges.
@@myrtlelittle4130 yup,the 30-06 for the 270 and 308 for the 243👍🏻
@@myrtlelittle4130 and the parent case’s for the 30-06 is the .30-03 Springfield,308 is .300 savage👍🏻
I find it humorous that anyone would ask for this particular matchup! That being said, the grain difference is substantial. Most .270 barrels use a 1:10 twist-rate, which limits bullets weighing more than 150-grains. Accuracy is significantly reduced with higher grain numbers, as is muzzle velocity. There are cartridges in 90 to 100 grains with mid 3k mv, not to mention that the twist rate would have stabilized better/quicker and would have dug a little deeper into the plates, for the 270, closely matching the 243 90 you were using for this trial, but regardless, the 270 would win, without trouble. I have studied the calibers when looking for my go-to rifle. While I shot a 270 a few times, I never purchased one. 30-30, 308, 30-06..... These are my favorites for big game animals. I have a Rosi JR for when my son was little and an old Western Auto (Savage A-Bolt), both in 243 for turkey and small game. (One of my PB was a 480 yard kill shot on a coyote, iron sights with the Western!)
Still, I enjoy your videos immensely! Show me a 338 v 300! LOL!
I have owned both at one time or another and taken many deer with both but I ended up getting rid of my .270 because as I age I don’t enjoy recoil. I actually got rid of my .243 and got a 7mm08 which also what my wife hunts with, no more having to carry 2 different cartridges and I always have my 30-30 for back up
Both are Great calibers..... Just shows .....Shot placement with the smaller calibers will get the job done just as good. Thanks
I have a 243 and a 270wsm. I prefer the 243 because it's way cheaper to shoot and it doesn't have near as much recoil. Also, it's a youth model, so it's nice and compact
I like the 300 savage the best of all my hunting rounds but it's gettin expensive to shoot much. I've got 140gr hand loads to average 3000fps out of my model 99 and still not a ton of recoil and thats pushin a 300 savage.
Have hunted with both prefer the bigger bullet if blood trail is needed Sometimes you don't get your ideal shot And bullets sometimes take unusual turns when hitting bone have hunted with many calibers over the years like the 6.5 Grendel now fun little round to shoot
Yes you are the hardest working RUclips gunman around! And you're always dealing with the things that I just love! Your scope from small to large bore semi-automatics to bolt action lever action you name it! I want to tell you I've had fun watching every one of your videos just like you said I would! For as much hard work as you do it's a good thing that you're a millionaire! Or you should be?
I am not a millionaire. Not even close. I pretty much live paycheck to paycheck
Appreciate you watching Mark
I use both calibers. Love them both. The only reason I use the 270 more is because it’s a Weatherby Vanguard and is a little more accurate than my 243 Remington 770 at longer distance. But both always get the deer, coyotes or what I’m after.
.270 is the Carolina blammer, the big buck slammer! In the valley, on a hill, one shot one kill!!! Brad
I have both of them but when you need a plow 270 all the way
Two of Winchesters finest. Love them both. 243 is outstanding for coyotes on down. 270 is good for coyotes on up!
As someone said,the 270 makes a better coyote rifle than the 243 does a deer rifle
Yay!!! Love those bing bangs! Great job! Still waiting for that 257 weatherby with 100 ttsx ammo test!😂😂
Heck yeah 👍 just finished my first long distance target rifle in .243 I don't think it will fare good against a .270 but I guess I'll see in 30 minutes
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The 243 is very versatile. You can load up 55 or 60 grain bullets at 3,900 FPS easily for varmints and ground squirrels. 85-87 grain billets doing about 34-3,500 FPS is more than capable of taking deer/pigs.
I have both calibers and have never thought about them being in the same class. I like both but for different uses. The 243 is great up to deer sized game and the 270 can handle bigger animals like elk at reasonable ranges. These tests are interesting for sure.
The last rifle I recently bought was a Benelli 270 LUPO Bolt-Action. I really like it. Very unique design.
I prefer the.243 in 100 grain, but the .270 is a great cartridge.
I’ve owned both 243 & 270 and they will both kill deer. I now hunt with 30 06,308 and 260 Remington which also all kill deer. There are many calibers that are good deer hunting choices,it’s just a matter of preference. Thanks for the video wtw 👍👍
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243 and 270 are both necked-down versions of older proven 30cal cartridges. Loads and bullet weights can vary.
I own hunting rifles .243 Win, .250 Savage, .257 Roberts, 25-06, 6.5x55, .270 Win, .280 Rem, 30-30, .300 Savage, .308 Win and 30-06. They all work equally well in taking Deer and Antelope. Yes, some shoot flatter. But they all work well. Have taken many antelope at ranges of 300 yrs with the .250 Savage with a 100 grain bullet at 2900 fps.
@@twp616 that’s a lot of good calibers , how do you like the 6.5 x 55. My .260 Remington is deadly on whitetails.
Personally I like both of them, but a 25-06 my favorite! Thanks for the video. Very interesting! Good job
I use the 308 WCF, 270 WCF and the 243 WCF calibers exclusively. I am proud to see the little 243 hold its own against its older brother.
Because I’m a 45/70 type of person I prefer the 270 over the 243 but from your test I still I still prefer the 270 because it didn’t disintegrate like the 243 did. So there’s hopefully less waste of the animal when you’re cutting out the bullet damage.
80g bullet in 243 is a varmint bullet, not intended to hold together like you would want in deer size game.
Well if you look on the box, he used thin walled varmint 80 grain 243.
Interesting point: at 35 yards, a 243, 85 gr soft point punched a hole clean through a 3/8” AR-550 plate. Looked like a paper punch. Velocity!
That's what I have been wondering : how do you handle either the lead dust or like some rounds unburnt gun powder ? Maybe washing the cavity or just cutting around wound cavity ? Although some wound cavities are huge due to bullets breaking apart . Although I do see in videos the FMJ'D and bonded bullets do hold together the best .
@@Airon79 if your using proper hunting bullets on game you won't have an issue with lead dust in the meat. Hunting bullets are built to retain weight and expand evenly. Varmint bullets on the other hand are designed to come apart to have maximum shock in predators and/or Varmints. The 80 grain bullet he used with the 243 was a Varmint bullet. Deer hunting with a 243, I personally wouldn't use anything under 100 grains.
I’d really like to see the 270 Win, 130 gr round for deer go up against the 243 Win , 100 gr round for deer. I don’t doubt that the 270 would still win but, besides being a more equal representation of each round, I believe that the bullet construction would be much more comparable. Varmint rounds aren’t built like rounds for bigger game. Many moons ago I had a 243 and my wife had a 270. My eldest child had a 30-06. There weren’t many critters in New Mexico that would need other rounds. A 243 is legal for elk here but you better put the right bullet in the right spot within the right range if you want to kill one. Heck, my dad killed his elk in 110-120 yards with a lever action Marlin 336 in 35 Remington. It’s all about hunting, not sniping!
Interesting. Great video! Two of my favorites, and those Weatherbys are awesome!
243 Remington 700 ADL and Remington 700 30 ought 6 and I don't have a 270 so it'd be one of those two. But I kind of like to 243 my only drawback on a 243. It doesn't have anything over a hundred grain in the lead which I don't know what they do now or not. Just very well since I've been hunting but I have hunted deer with both of them
I am wondering if you can do a plate test with a 243 v 25-06 or 25-06 v 270? Or milk jug test. I've got a 25-06 and I really love it's preformance on deer and pronghorn.
I feel like this test was biased in favor of the 270, for 2 reasons. First, the types of bullets used. The 150 grain Power Point in the 270 is a game bullet designed to expand and penetrate. The 80 grain jacketed soft point Varmint and Predator bullet in the 243 is designed for rapid expansion and fragmentation as seen in the results here.
Second, the 270 had a heavy for caliber bullet with a high sectional density of .279 while the 243 had a light for caliber bullet with a sectional density of only .193.
I would like to see the test repeated with more closely matched loads. The Winchester 270 Super X load with a 130 grain Power Point has a sectional density of .242 while the Winchester 243 Super X load with a 100 grain Power Point bullet also has a sectional density of .242. Winchester shows the 270 load at 3060 feet per second and the 243 load at 2960 feet per second. 2 bullets of the same type with nearly equal speeds and sectional densities would make for a very interesting test!
I concur!
Maybe we can compare a 22 short to 300 rum next lol
Thats the point.
I've shot both calibers but I've never hunted with either. My dad's hunted Mule deer, Black bear and Moose with a .243 and taken all 3 successfully with it. I know guys that have take everything from Whitetail to Elk and Moose with both the .243 and .270.
Awesome video once again... I tend to lean to the 243, I love that round!
Love my .243! It has low recoil, turns whitetail lungs to jelly, and ammo is available everywhere (if you forget yours). I lend mine out to youth hunters (with adult supervision) in Michigan's youth hunt. As a friend said when I got the .243. "That's a womans gun, I wish I had one". I've never seen a deer go 20 yards with a lung shot.
Couple of years ago I went back and forth over .270 or .308 I choose .308 for ammo availability and price of ammo.
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Where I buy ammo the price for .270 and .308 is the same. Availability varies from week to week. What is odd, is how 6.5 Creedmoor or .350 Legend will be available when .270 and .308 are not. And vice versa. So when I go out shooting with the grandkids and friends. I never know what I will be able to take.
@@zxej6879 because as much hype as 6.5 has been thrown down our throats, WAY more people own 308 and 270
@@DinoNucci Which 6.5? The Creedmoor has 62kpsi vs 55kpsi of the Swede. The 6.5 PRC is a magnum, and shoots very nice. The trend of the new cartridges is for hunting in areas with human encroachment on animal habitats. Think the
350 Legend and the 450 Bushmaster. Or a faster twist and longer bullets to get better physics out of a cartridge. And are typically short and fat.
While I do have a semi-auto .308. Most of my rifles are bolt action. I don't shoot my old military surplus rifles any more (no ammo). But mini-action, short-action, and long action are the same to me. As for carrying a distance, the strap matters to me. I like my bullpup rifle and shotgun for going through the brush.
But getting back to the ammo. While the suppliers may have their preferences. But ammo will go through supply chain strategies from the MBA crowd. That will have just a few cartridges at a volume price. And everything else will become a boutique cartridge. With really bad prices and availability. And the hoarding will drive profitability for the MBA crowd.
So we need to take our time between shots. And not waste ammo.
@@zxej6879 which 6.5? Creedmoor bruh. Anything else is boutique, availability wise. Just shoot 308 and relax.
6.5 Grendel versus 6.5 Creedmoor in the paper plates
Just curious, wouldn’t a better comparison be the .243 vs the 6 mm Creedmoor, or .270 vs 6.5 Creedmoor?
The Creedmoor is a round of its own. The 243 and 270 are necked-down versions of older 30cal cartridges. No match.
Adam try this one time. What I've done to test penetration and expansion is to take an old cooler (either an old igloo or a Styrofoam) about a 36 quart size. I pack it as tight as I can with news paper, then fill it with water. Let it sit overnight. Then put it at 100 yards and hit it. When you check it you can actually see the energy transfer and increasing expansion through it. Put something behind just in case the boolot makes it through. I've used this method to test my 180 gr. Barnes TSX's that I load for Elk.
I love your content and how you still stay humble even with your success on RUclips
Appreciate you watching Alex. I'm just a regular ol dude
Had a 243 since i started hunting, was my first rifle and have always used a 80gr round. Have shot red deer out to 350 meters stil sits them on the deck. I do have other rifles but its still my go to, Especially with availability and affordability here in new zealand.
When you are young, recoil doesn’t effect you. The older you get the more you will love the 243.
RIGHT! I am an old person, (Too damn old) and I shoot my 45-70 often just so I can really enjoy the lighter calibers.
7:22 if you look on the back of the box the 80 grain you used is thin walled varmint round.
The .270 is always my choice, would've liked to see a 130 grain boo-lott. Those dinky 80 grain .243's aren't really comparable to those 150s'(light vs heavy for caliber). Excellent video dude!
Enjoyed the test but I would use the two most common rounds used by these calibers to hunt which is 130g 270 and 100g 243. I think the results would be a lot closer with that scenario. Keep the videos coming brotha!
Right now you’ve sorted that out 😃 and I love my .243w
Let’s get onto a real comparison
.270w v 6.8 western
Both .277 calibers 👍
I have never shot a 270 so I don't know what to think, I have shot 5 deer with a 243 and haven't ever had to track one more than 40 yards, I shot 1 deer with a 30-06 and tracked it more than 1/2 a mile. I use a 243 now and love it. I just got a 6.5 Grendel upper for my AR-15, I'm going to see how well it works next season.
Very nice video. I have both 270 and 243 in Browning blr platform. I handload for them and find it a hard choice each deer season. A buddy of mine took a large 8 pt a year ago at 300yds with his 243, complete pass through and the deer dropped on the spot.
This hunting season I took a 6pt buck at 250 yds also with complete pass through. I've also taken deer with 6.5cm. I prefer my 270 and 243 over the 6.5cm.
Two popular calibers that been around for many years. Both have a big following and have proven their usefulness many times over. Good shooting and gods speed to the WTW FAMILY AND FANS. 🎥💯👍🙏🏻
Out of those two I would choose the 270. But when I use to hunt and growing up my preferred rifle of choice was a marlin 30-30 lever action. I have taken whitetails all over Texas from 50 vrds all the way out to 300 yards with no problems and most were head shots. You can't eat them racks so I try and save as much meat as I possibly could by making head shots. I hunted for food not trophies.
I hunted with both and taken deer with them. I I always go back to my 308 Winchester. Good video thanks.
2 of my favorite hunting rounds.. love them both.. like I love my 350 legend, 25-06, 30-30 and my 30-06.... lol.
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OK FIRST EXCELLENT EXCELLENT EXCELLENT VIDEO!! I like heavy bullets yet in one of your videos you shot through AR500 armor and used many different cartridges! The ONLY TWO that went through it were the 50BMG and the 243!! I'll take the rounds you used in the 243 and keep that!! Lol.
I own a number of rifles that I hunt with. I had also hunted with 30 caliber rifles until I bought a Ruger 243 rifle as a favor to help out a friend. I didn't think too much of it for hunting deer, until I killed my first deer with it. I use 100 grain bullets and shot them in the neck or the head. They don't wiggle after they are hit. Great caliber! I own lots of different caliber rifles including the 270 which is a great hunting caliber, but I normally grab my trusty 243 when I go to the woods. If I am hunting dangerous game from the ground I want the 270 or a larger caliber for a little more margin.
When i was young. I placed a Quarter On the top surface of sand, Shot a 45 into the quarter, It buried the quarter pretty deep into the sand Without penetrating. It imprinted The head side graphic of the quarter into the Bullet like a fingerprint. Turned the quarter into an umbrella shape. I still have the bullet and the quarter.
You should try this. Im sure you will have the same Souvenir when you're done.
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243 isn’t what I would call a deep penetrator.. it flys fast and “ flat “ and creates a massive hydraulic shock.. is it better than a .270? Sometimes and sometimes not.. there isn’t any perfect caliber for all situations. I love my .243 but wouldn’t take it on a moose hunt.. love the content WtW 👍
I’ve taken many hogs with a .243, my hunting buddy uses a .270 and while hunting together we’ve never lost a hog. Both calibers do just fine if the shooter does his part.
Both are awesome,243 is more fun if you're shooting alot of rounds at a time
The 270 win will do EVERYTHING THE 243 win can do AND THEN A HECK WAY MORE!! !! Also choice of bullet grain weight ,as well as construction types is ANOTHER Area the 270 excells over 243 win.. Recoil is Very Important to some shooters . 243 is Absolute Best, at least recoil .. Thanks Great info demonstrated..
I went through that same argument (270 vs 243) with myself many rears ago. After much testing to assure a clean kill I decided:
All of my game hunting rifles are now .308. For other purposes I use 45-70 and 22lr. I don't use or buy a lot of varied calibers.
Powder loads and bullet weights can be varied to suit any desired performance.
Me and my son and two grandsons all went to the deerwoods last year we each one took a deer one with a 243 two with a 270 and one with a 30-06 either of those rifles is enough for a deer
I have had both. Took my first 2 deer with my F-I-L's R721 in .270W. I have killed more deer with .243 than any other caliber. Both are great. I'd pick the .270 for hunting game larger than whitetail, but here in LA, the .243 most often gets the nod.
Another great video that displays the difficulty of calculating penetration. A more appropriate comparison Adam would be the American Standard .270 vs the Government Sig Standard.277 shot at 100 yards ie. 91.4 meters. Approximate conversion: Meter = 1.1 yards.
Both bullets should be non-expanding FMJ (SD = (bullet weight in grains/7000) / bullet diameter^2) for this test because in hunting bullets we would need the terminal diameter of extracted bullets in a two-part test. TSD = (recovered-bullet weight in grains/7000) / recovered-bullet diameter^2)
Who-Dee-Who knew hunting would rely on physics and mathematics (lol) Sorry Adam, I was a Science Major back in the '70s whose professors at the Cow College were WW2-German Scientists, for what it is worth I'll be going with the AR15 6.5 Grendel unless BCA puts the AR10 in .308 or 6.5 on sale like it was last March...
I live in Australia so don't have huge game so the 243 is a great all rounder , flat shooting easy recoil. But if hunting scub bulls or
buffalo you'd want the 270 or something even bigger .
It's comes down to the right tool for the job . Both rounds are awesome and of course good to own both if you can 😁
I use both. .and like both.
Love the video thxs whoo tee whooI missed the premiere. Nice rifles… thxs agian
I think the separation between the two would only be further apart the further you go out...
Who know Who-Tee-Who that you could serve hot lead on paper plates. Lol
I’d like to see you compare 6.5 Creedmoor vs 7mm-08 on paper plates
.270 is my favorite. I have taken numerous deer and hogs and has Never let me down. Mainly because that’s the hunting rifle I have!
I’m surprised you didn’t use a 100 grain .243 cartridge. I wonder if it would have gone through more paper plates…
270 is my got too!!! I was shooting 300 smw it's over kill so I went down to 270 and been there every since. I thought about 243 but I'm heavy on 270 now so there's my thoughts.
I love them both. 270 was my first rifle.
Nice. I like both those calibers.
I’m dying to see.
Elephant gun/paper plates
Lol!
Keep up the good work.
I have and love them both! I have hunted from prairie dogs to elk with both of them.
my first hunting rifle was a 243 and i took many deer and antelope with it. i loved the way it shot even at longer distance. so i guess im a little more partial but my dad just got his first 270 a couple years ago after being a big 30 cal and 6.5 swede guy his whole life. he swears up and down its the best hunting rifle hes ever owned. gun is a winchester 70 superlight.
130 grain and 135 grain boat tail is probably best projectiles to shoot out of .270....
Definitely a fan boy of wood and blue steel can't go wrong there them some beautiful looking rifles 👀 💖
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A 100 grain bullet should have been used for that .243 with this comparison in all fairness … that 80 grainer is a varmint load that has extreme eruption characteristics not intended for deep penetration. A good Nosler Partition 100 grain bullet loaded for that .243 Winchester takes care of business on big muscly whitetail bucks no problem 😉
I’m a 270 fanboy. The .243 taught me at a young age how to track deer so I am very thankful for that experience.
I have killed 5 deer with a 243 and have never had to track one more than 40 yards, I killed 1 deer with a 30-06 and had to track it over 1/2 a mile. I don't know how to explain it, but that is what happened.
Never tracked any deer more than about fifty yards, never had a hog go more than three steps with my .243….. I haven’t been hunting long with it, just since 1977. Lol 😂
My uncle used to hunt deer with a.243 and I was glad whenever he decided to get a .270. I learned to track too. Better ammo is available for the.243 now than it was 30 years ago.
@@jasonsliger5430 most definitely better ammo! I think poor shot placement was the true issue.
@@jasonsliger5430 I have been hunting with my .243 since 1977, never had to track anything. Deer, bear, or boar and all the smaller critters that met their demise with that Remington 700 BDL. Longest shot was a measured 370 yards, shortest about 30 feet, lol.
I learned how to hunt with a 243 when I was young, then moved up to a 270 as i got bigger. I have killed white tail and hogs with both.
I like both but I own a Savage Axis 2xp 270 witch I love
Had both kept 270 as it does the job on deer very well definitely gives a margin for error if needed great video should repeat this with monolithic projectiles look forward to seeing more like this 👍👍