Nurse Accused of Strangling Her 3 Kids Before Trying to Kill Herself Jumping Out Window
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- A 32-year-old nurse allegedly strangled her three kids to death before attempting to kill herself by jumping out of the second-floor window of the family's home in Duxbury, Massachusetts on January 24. Lindsey Clancy's husband said his wife suffered from mental health issues. The Law&Crime Network's Sierra Gillespie has the details with expert insight from forensic psychologist Dr. John Delatorre.
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Charging the father with anything sounds beyond horrible to me. I'm sure he's hurt enough
The father took time off of work and was getting her care. It's horrific but they all were trying to get help.
@Izquierdo Agitar Fathers also don't get special treatment in society
@Izquierdo Agitar yeah most fathers are good, unlike the trash baby killers
Charging the father would be ridiculous, but charging her would be as well.
@@libertywatcher1247 Agreed. She really needs intense mental health treatment. Such a sad situation.
Yes let's put some blame on the husband for not being a trained psychiatrist. That's the justice system for you.
as a husband he should protect the kids at any cost. he failed his duty and needs to go to prison for letting this happen
@@SoyAntonioGaming Uh, what was he supposed to do, use his spidey-senses and then teleport?
@@SoyAntonioGaming name checks out
@@Curtis006 maby not be an absent father.
@@SoyAntonioGaming maybe not be a murdering mother
This is beyond heartbreaking! Those poor babies, they were so precious. My prayers are with the family, I can’t imagine the grief and pain they’re experiencing! 🙏🏻💔
Media witch hunt Bryan Kohberger and his psychosis but pamper this woman for her psychosis.
The mental health excuse for murder seriously needs to stop. There are plenty of us who had it incredibly tough, with all kinds of problems including health problems, yet we don't murder our kids. Once you cross that line, you loose all the sympathy, you are just a shell without an ounce of humanity. Shame on that woman, she betrayed these kids. Same goes for the husband, who relied on a mentally ill(as he claims) woman for their children safety. They failed these children miserably.
While I understand the outrage, you have to understand that someone in full-blown psychosis isn't in their right mind at all. They see things, hear things, etc...Ever seen someone talking to themselves as if they're having a conversation with someone else? It would be like charging someone with brain damage with murder. Most likely, if she survives, she'll end up in a mental facility for a long time to get the treatment she needs.
@@amberlimbaugh I absolutely understand that some of these people in psychosis detatch from reality, it begs the question why a lot of them have self preservation instincts in tact, but no mercy for others. I strongly believe even if you were so detatched that you wouldn't remember you should still be charged with murder, or at least locked away for the rest of your life. Because if you are capable of doing something like that you do not belong in the society.
Exactly. The only true victims in these cases of murder are the babies and children who are tortured and killed by their parents or parent.
Well said !!!
Condolences to her husband. What a tragedy.😢😢😢
Husband should hve consent to nanny yes he must be charge held responsible hw can husband rely tht mental person capable to do it on her own 3rd child hw ridiculous ws he just planning tht on 4th nd 5th
I had a friend who told me that when their baby was young they asked their husband to keep her away from it for a period of time because she was afraid she was going to do something terrible. PPD is real and many women suffer from it. It should be talked about more because a lot of people suffering are too embarrassed or afraid to talk about it or seek help.
Agreed. What people often don't know and I learned this only a week ago, is that nearly third of parents sometimes think of lethally harming their babies! And the most likely time for committing such crime is days following the birth. Familicides have unfortunately been on the rise lately, we seriously need to talk about these things more.
100% correct, anyone who considers harming others should be placed in a secure facility where others can be kept safe from them until treatment is administered and recovery is made.
It’s the same with school massacres, if parents or those around the children who considered such crimes and showed warning signs could alert the authorities and have those individuals detained until such time when they are no longer a threat, many lives would be saved.
We absolutely need to take violent psychotic episodes and the warning signs that come before those episodes very seriously to prevent loss of life.
It’s so true! It’s hard to understand that often the person is not really conscious in these situations and/or no longer has control of their own body. It’s as if the mind and the body are being controlled by a machine or something.
I never felt that my chikd needed to be taken alway from me for fear of actually injuring any of them , BUT the thoughts that would creep up on me !!! I was scared ! I was petrified and riddled with guilt at the negative thoughts that would intrude my mind !! I reached out to my best friend when it happened twice . I broke down scared , worried something was very wrong with me . I was 28 with my fourth child and I adored her with all of my being , BUT those thoughts… I’m so glad I was able to reach out to someone I trusted and was able to say hey this is happening!! What is wrong with me !!! I pray for all mommas .. pls ask for help and pls pls pls speak up ! I never harmed anyone .. it never got like that for me . Maybe because I recognized something was very disturbing about the thoughts . It’s incredibly hard to admit … but I want others to know we all struggle and it’s ok .. ask for help pls !! ❤❤❤❤❤
Regardless of it being "real" or not the end result is this woman killed her children and people are blaming the husband or share stories of how they were like that or something. At the end of the day I just wonder what is wrong with people? Do women think like that? If so I'm glad I don't have children. I would hate to bring them to a cruel world where they're doomed from the womb.
Unless the father was involved, how can you even suggest he be charged with anything?
If he knew she had psychosis did nothing the help and left the kids alone in her care, we'll see.
If you haven't figured out by now it's the man's fault for everything a woman does or doesn't do.
@@zfouleur2904 There were two parents in this home and they both had a duty to keep the children safe. Get off the gender cross, we need the wood!
@@princekareem He wasn't a trained psychiatrist so it was not within his ability to know.
@@princekareemhe took time off his job to help take care of her and the kids, left to get food so they would starve and was back after a half hour
She might’ve been in a completely normal state when he left but quickly went into a crazed state and did these things
So he made the mistake of not putting her in a hospital or taking her with him or having the food delivered. It’s not like he was neglectful, he was gone a half hour! I’d say he was doing more than quite a few
My mom suffered from it after I was born. I’m glad she got the best help available and she was cured. From what I’ve been told she never tried to hurt me but she said being next to me would hurt her. Mental health is serious!!
Re post partum depression: One of my best friends is a doctor here in the UK. She told me after the birth of her 3rd child (not before that) she believed she was a useless mother and wanted to kill herself and the new baby. Fortunately she has a brilliant marriage and her husband was so concerned about seeing his wife so low that he organised mental health support for her asap. He is a farmer, a bloke's bloke so I was doubly impressed. With the right support she quickly recovered and has never looked back.
When I had my child I flipped out and got postpartum psychosis.
I became afraid of my house for no logical reason to the point I was considering sleeping outside.
Also felt like there was a rotting corpse under my bed watching me and moving around so I wouldn't be able to see it and I was terrified it was going to grab me and pull me under the bed.
I'm better now but I understand women who get postpartum depression now.
Wow… we really need better mental health services in this country. My heart bleeds for the children, how horrified and traumatized they were to see their own mother choke the life out of them. But hopefully the mother gets the help she needs 🙏
It doesn't sound like anyone knew there was anything wrong. Our mental health system can't go out looking for people.
No one knows if this is true. She could just be an evil person. This might not have anything to do with mental health
She needs bars
Is it mental health? Or is it the fact that the general fabric of society is breaking down and people can’t afford to breath in the USA let alone feed a family and hold a job.
She needs deathrow
They use mental health far too often as an excuse for evil. This is disgusting.
Some ppl use it as an excuse and then there's real cases like this ...that's how u know the real from the fake
@@tamikawiggins6230 Nothing has been proven yet. So, how will they prove she has postpartum? All she has to do is look up the right words to say to make it sound like she has that problem. The side effects are all over the internet.
What’s your excuse?
This probably was mental psychosis. She jumped out of a second story window. She was also trying to go inpatient but the insurance denied it. This might be the one that actually is temporary insanity. Usually the insanity case doesn’t hold up it actually could here.
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You put yourself in a Psychiatric Hosp. At 5 months after my 3rd child was born, I was still drifting further and further away. That had never happened with the girls. I was going from PPD to PPP. We tried Out-patient and I refused drugs. One day I asked my Sister to come over and take care of the kids and another sister to drive me to the hosp. I stayed for 2 weeks, went on Anxiety and Depression meds, which I am still on today. My husband was Selfish, I belonged in the Hospital. We have since divorced. It took a few months but I came back to life. I never once thought of hurting my Children, I don't understand that!!!!
Rest in Peace little Angels 🌟💟⭐🙏💕
❤️
Not everyone's experience is the same and some women do think of hurting their kids. You sought help because you were self-aware but not everyone is in touch with what they're experiencing. Maybe she didn't have anyone to call on or didn't feel like she had the right to leave the house & kids. No-one knows.
You were lucky that you recognized it for what it was. That isn't the experience of most women. She was in treatment, and I'm sure she thought she was doing the right thing. Maybe she'd never experienced the psychosis until that moment. We don't know.
It is harder than people think to find a doctor that knows anything about postpartum psychosis or how to treat it. I found that out when I tried to find medical attention for someone I knew. Finally found out it is a major hormonal imbalance caused by the thyroid and birth. She got thyroid meds, and she was back to her normal self. I don't know why this is not common knowledge in the medical world. They would rather put them on antidepressants which can actually make them worse, or miss the root cause.
@@princekareem Exactly. I don’t know why people can say such things as if they’re in the minds of every person. If 100 of us take a particular drug, the side effects will not all be the same. Some may be common but people will report all sorts of things. I don’t know why people always give the “it didn’t happen to me so impossible bla bla.”
The same person those kids saw as their mother whom had protected and loved them their whole life on earth to now seeing her as the one who strangled and murdered them on their last day on earth. They had to be so scared as to why their mommy would hurt them in that way and I cannot imagine how confused they were in their final moments. Just awful
Killing a child is the #1 worst thing any being could ever do. Period. Their innocence is just so extreme
May these beautiful babies rest in peace 🕊️🕊️🕊️& may the father find peace .. this is heartbreaking to the core
This is heartbreaking. I suffered from Postpartum psychosis with my second child almost 19 years ago. I remember learning about Andrea Yates. The line in the sand is so thin. I am eternally grateful I didn’t cross over. I wish that pain on no one. 😢
I was in the same boat 24 yrs ago. It was horrid to go through and I still feel guilt about the thoughts I had at the time. I'm beyond happy I never acted on my thoughts and feelings. I have always battled mental health issues. But I'm in a good space now. But going through that was so intense. Hugs to you for surviving that. And I'm glad you didn't act out either. Your stronger than you think
I’m so sorry that you had to go through that. This poor woman wasn’t so lucky.
@@WitchessJae we need more women like you to step forward to help people understand the suffering she had to have gone through.
Thank you for sharing. I have never suffered that but understand there is so much pain
@@Nala_1230 What you don’t understand about PPP is a lot.
Postpartum psychosis is a very serious condition and it has consequences. Awareness and treatment centers are needed.
Yes agreed. It is harder than people think to find a doctor that knows anything about postpartum psychosis or how to treat it. I found that out when I tried to find medical attention for someone I knew. Finally found out it is a major hormonal imbalance caused by the thyroid and birth. She got thyroid meds, and she was back to her normal self. I don't know why this is not common knowledge in the medical world. They would rather put them on antidepressants which can actually make them worse, or miss the root cause.
@@rootstorising7348 There really needs to be outpatient clinics just for this for Drs & hospitals to refer to, and programs to check in with new mothers (we have some in Australia). These problems can be better researched and they can surely be solved. There is no need for all the pain, stigma and loneliness.
Leave him alone, poor man lost all his family.
I do wonder what she's thinking now or if she even knows what she did.
LE has a reason to investigate him , no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. Everyone said Chris Watts was a nice guy too. Same with Scott Peterson,
@CloudzInMyIze🌦 so the wife kills the kids now the husband is to blame.
@@nevermind19700 you can't even compare Watts to this situation.
@CloudzInMyIze🌦
Oh please. Cmon now. Be reasonable.
@@fergiemcavoy9802 , I'm trying to be objective about this, but yes , I do think of the Watts case and everyone thought Chris Watts was a good guy , until they found out differently,
Extending my compassion to ALL involved. It’s unfortunate all the way around.
If it was the dad you wouldn’t be “extending compassion” .. come up with mental health excuses. Female criminals everyone wants to extend compassion smh
@@shaheedharun445 dumbest comment ever
@@Chic_Ken More like it exposed your sheep mindset, therefore you hate it
@@shaheedharun445 lol thats true. Like Chris Benoit
Unfortunate what u on about it’s disgusting
As a mother, this is absolutely devastating. She looked so happy with her babies. My prayers are with those little angels 💜🙏
Postpartum psychosis is terrifying.
I had it and I thought there was a rotting corpse under my bed watching me and moving around so I wouldn't be able to see it
@@winning3329 I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I've had postpartum depression but only the first couple days after giving birth. Hormones all over the place. It's not fun. Again, I'm so sorry you went through that, that must have been traumatizing.
Look happy means nothing these days. Everyone smiles for the pictures
I was 28 and having problems. The doctor put me on prosaic. I heard voices telling me to kill my kids.i called the police. And they took me to the hospital. And the kids went to the family for a little while. I got off that stuff and I will never take that kind of medication again.
The poor man worked from home to look after her and her mother had just left to go back home as she was helping out too. I don’t believe anyone close to her even knowing how sick she was could read her mind.
No excuses.
Capital punishment.
Heartbreaking. Those poor children. 🙏🏼❤️
Crazy that people just ASSUME she was going through PPD without any official diagnosis made public. My condolences to the husband.
maby the husband was abusive or coerced her into doing this
Yes, because it's so heinous and unthinkable.
She was on leave because of major postpartum issues… just google some articles.
EXACTLY, all of a sudden PPD at the forefront because she's of a certain "tax bracket". I have seen so many cases like this and PPD was not or have not been a debate...all of a sudden everyone is defending this woman without evidence. What if she's just pure evil, what if she found something out in her marriage and snapped, what if she's just controlling...please...
Well, she's been going to treatment for it five days a week, so it's not an assumption as much as it is a fact.
There's no justification.. it's insane that they talk about charging the husband while giving her a way out with no accountability
They can't stand the thought of the Man being the victim and walking away while she is held liable for her lone actions.
I heard the father knew of her psychosis…and still left her for 25 minutes alone . He was working from home because of her issues. When someone knows the mother is that bad…take the kids out of the home!!
Her husband took a leave off of work from home leave and was getting her five day care out of the week.
Just say you don't know how it all works. Psychosis- break from reality. Sad that no one picked up on it...ignoring issues doesn't help.
@@Purplepuddles0810 and mental help? Where's that at...
The father does not deserve any blame. That is just ridiculous. He is not supposed to diagnose his wife. He did not keep her from getting the care she needed if he didn’t know she needed it.
I feel deeply for this family and even the mother. She must feel like a monster. It’s hard to recognize what is right and wrong when you’re struggling with your mental health. With that being said, she still deserves to pay her time.
I blame the greedy health care system.
I had postpartum psychosis and I was not able to get help because I am poor.
I suffered for 2 years and my general doctors dismissed me.
In California there more help for addicts them postpartum psychosis.
For about a year I thought there was a rotting corpse under my bed watching me and moving around so I wouldn't be able to see it and I was terrified it was going to grab me and pull me under the bed.
Also I became afraid of my house for no logical reason and I wanted to sleep outside.
Psychologist charges $200 to $300 an hour and you will need more than an hour.
He does if he was aware of symptoms or behaviors that were off. He would have known living with her & she was probably severe enough to have displayed something at some point. Absolutely men have a responsibility. They are a family. It isn't all on her!!!! You think males have no obligation and are blameless, pretty foolish. He was present in the home and likely picked up on something, that's why he's saying not to blame his wife and forgive her. People have been together a long time, had kids, lived together, you know a person and you know if/when things seem off or odd, disturbing, unusual, etc. Men don't get off Scott free just because they're the husband. 🙄
@@melissahouse3488 classic hormonal woman. Take your inability to deal with your hormones out of the picture and you're nothing, nobody. She murdered her children with her own hands. A hormonal woman that becomes a murderer is still a murderer. She murdered her children and now she needs to be in jail for life. Off to jail as a child-killing monstrosity
Right let's just all dole kumbayyas and $$$ to the go fund me.
@@melissahouse3488 he is not a psychologist. It’s enough that he feels bad for not speaking up but he was probably never taught to know the symptoms of PP depression or PP psychosis. So how would he know?
This case hits me harder than most. Postpartum is real. I suffered major anxiety after my 3rd child was born then after a while of not treating it i had panic attacks every second of the day and cried day and night i wanted so badly to end my life. I finally seeked help 2 YEARS later because it kept getting worse. I never thought of hurting my kids but it was the most bizarre situation i have ever experienced. I did not leave my house for. Total of 5 years. Still until this day i dont leave very often and its been 7.5 years.
You should have stopped having kids after the 2nd one. SMH.
@@nardip4999 You should worry about your own reproductive choices.
Thank you for sharing this ❤
I’m so sorry you suffered for so long. I completely sympathize with you. My youngest is 10 and I feel I still have lingering effects of postpartum depression. You don’t really understand it unless you’ve dealt with it. Sending you hugs. Take care.
@@nardip4999 f off
Do you realize how long you have to hold onto somebody's throat to choke them to death..?? It's neither quick nor easy. And she had to do that 3 TIMES. TO HER BABIES.
Postpartum psychosis is no excuse. As the mother and primary protector of those children, she should have IMMEDIATELY called for somebody to be with the kids and then admitted herself into psychiatric care. Your instinct to keep your children safe should be stronger than ANY other feeling. If you feel that instinct waver, even for a moment, it is your DUTY to get help.
Exactly.. she had demonic influence. I mean look at the statue that they erected in NYC to represent the inner spirit of the baby killing modern women.
Gave her the baby birthing lower body figure, but is a whole satanic man and baby eater.
If you’ve never experienced any type of mental illness, especially after giving birth you really can’t have much say. It’s called psychosis. It can be very hard to distinguish reality from what you’re mind may conjure up. If you don’t have any coherent and stable support,it’s likely they don’t think to get help bc of their crippling mental state.
@@miahhunter4010 you really have no idea what I have/haven't experienced. NOTHING that I've ever been through has overshadowed my maternal instinct. EVER.
Good God do you research. She was getting help!!! And I don't care WHO you are, if you are suffering from psychosis, YOU aren't in control of anything. You sound ridiculous and ignorant.
@@Bella-lx8vn or maybe I'm just stronger-minded than a lot of you attention seeking twinkies. NOTHING could compel me to hurt a child. If you feel even slightly motivated to do something like that, you get the f away from all kids until you're mentally sound. She strangled them, one after the other, there is NO justification for the fact that she was able to do that. If her psychosis was so bad, and she wasn't completely self-centered, she would've offed HERSELF, BEFORE she had a chance to hurt one of her children. A real mother will do ANYTHING to keep her kids safe. But surprise, surprise, she hurt them first, and then her own attempt wasn't successful because she jumped FROM THE 2ND STORY!
She wasn't even horrified enough by her actions against her children to BE SURE that she suffered the same fate.
My heart is absolutely broken for these poor babies 💔
This is sad for everyone, even the mother. Once she gets past postpartum, she'll be mortified of her actions. Postpartum needs to be taken much more seriously.
Stop making excuses for women bad behavior
@@lawrenceandrews4367 men are still mostly excused
@@lawrenceandrews4367 she tried to kill herself after... do men try to kill themselves after crimes? Or are they selfish and try to stay alive?
@Your Name exactly.
@Law The Realist You have a wife and kids? Postpartum is dangerous. Not just this case, all the other ones driving their kids in a lake... Glad my wife didn't get it.
It's hard as a mom of 2 to feel empathy for moms who murderer their children, but image the state of mind you must be to do such a thing.
seeing how disrespectful kids act these days, im not suprised
Post-partum psychosis isn't a regular state of mind. For women who have it, it's leaving reality. She would have had symptoms showing, should have been in treatment and not at home alone with the kids unless a treatment program said it was time for her to do that.
@@SoyAntonioGaming wow. Thats a weird thing to say
@@SoyAntonioGaming same
@@SoyAntonioGaming they were babies... you're a creep
She had such severe postpartum psychosis that she wanted to go inpatient in a facility, but was denied by her health insurance. So as a couple, Lindsay and her husband had to take matters into their own hands - he started working from home to help with the children & his wife. He left for 25 minutes to go get food and that’s all it took. This country is all about mistreatment & movements now a days & I only hope that what comes from this is a great deal of support towards forcing health insurance companies to recognize the severity of postpartum, and actually provide the funds to those who need help. Health insurance companies are terrible - my mother was denied physical therapy due to her rickets when she had cancer because as the company told me - “we’re not providing funds to somebody who has an incurable unsurvivable disease.” And she was in remission at the time. Which ever company denied her, needs to be held accountable for their decision. If you’re going to be making decisions financially about what you’re going to provide someone when they need help, then you should be held accountable when your choice causes some thing like this.
Not Only was she a danger to her children and husband, but as a nurse she was caring for patients??? Imagine the implication if something would have made her emotionally distraught at her job…it’s Bad enough what happened to those children, Much less harming some of her patients. Those poor babies… her face was the last thing they seen 😔
Was she working at the time ?
@@melindasmith3713 You KNOW she was not at work, unless it was show and tell take your children to work day. 🤦♀️ 😂 So what’s the point of your comment?
Unbelievable sad ….Those children didn’t deserve this .It’s beyond me how the parent gets to that point and not asking for help .
You need to know the story before you make a statement like this, as you clearly don't what you are talking about! They were trying to get help, SHE WAS seeking medical attention & she was prescribed 13 psychiatric medications
@@mammabear6875 she was over medicated. there is no reason for 13 different medications. no wonder she went insane! This is a sad story
RIP babies.. Postpartum is a horrible illness...when my daughter gave birth to my grandson ...he was only a little over 4 pounds...she was afraid and asked me to watch over him..I did until she was no longer scared of rolling over onto him. When he reached the rolling over stage..she would not watch him carefully and he would fall off her high platform bed and hit his head very hard onto the floor. When I would run into her bedroom she would just be standing there with no care to pick him up as he is screaming from the fall..she would say" Well I guess he'll learn not to do that again" I quickly picked him up cradling his head and body asking her why didn't you pick him up?( she had no concern)
I was baffled and angry with her as I could not understand why a mother would treat her 3 months old that way. When my grandson was a few weeks old, my daughter told me that she was going to k ll herself. I was so confused as I did 95% of his care which included feedings, cleanings, and late night waking up to make sure he was still breathing. I showed her how to care properly for her son (it was a great struggle for her.) I much later pieced it together that she was suffering from post partum depression. He is now 6 yrs old and doing well. I still keep an eye out on him to make sure he is cared for properly because you never know.
This reminds me of Andrea Yates. 21 years ago she drowned her 5 kids in a bathtub. Her husband stood by her.
That story was the first thing that came to mind. Sadly, this is not uncommon.
Get your facts straight. Russell Yates was a disgusting inseminator with the morals of an alley cat. He was told as was Andrea, to STOP having children before they had FIVE. At one point, the family was living in a school bus. Andrea turned herself in and admitted full guilt, blaming no one but herself. Russell was in some kind of perverse cult, like Mormons, who breed like flies, regardless of financial circumstances. Before Andrea met Russell, she was a highly qualified nurse who took care of children with cancer.
I’m in MA and others have reported she was attending outpatient treatment for her postpartum mental health condition 5 days a week so people did know. I’m not sure how she ended up alone with the kids, but she was doing her part trying to be helped.
Exactly!
She's not a first time mom so I don't think it's due to Postpartum. There is more to this story.
Postpartum can occur after any pregnancy. It's not just a first time mom condition
@@nardip4999 you think people only get postpartum depression after their first child?! Do your homework before getting on here and commenting.
I read somewhere he was picking up dinner. He was gone for 25 minutes. I cannot in any way say this is true information.
IF THE FATHER WAS THE ONE KILLING THE CHILDREN HE WILL BE ALREADY SENTENCED TO DEATH.
Looking at all these happy photos, it's hard to imagine that she would do such a thing under normal circumstances. This is a really sad story.
Omg how sad.
So sad. This isn’t the first time something like this has happened, I feel so bad for everyone here. It’s a very rare syndrome, but it’s very real.
This isn't rare at all.
Its just evil
Not rare at all. 3 in 5 women suffer PPD. 1 in 40 suffers some degree of PPS. That's not rare.
@@undercovermother5243 dont kill babies tho... we can suffer mental health... dont have to kill the babies no one does
Actually not rare, but people won't take it serious.
If it was a man who murdered his children under severe mental health reasons, would he be treated as another victim, and his wife seen potentially as criminally liable? Asking for a friend...
Most woman take on raising the child . Yes woman are judged when they get with a new man , not the real daddy , and he kills the kids . People tare the woman apart and say she shouldn't have left kids with boyfriend .
@@melindasmith3713 That is a straw man on my question. Woman obviously shouldn't be judged in your straw man scenario. Interested in you posting a citation to a video, where in the comments the woman is taken apart for her partner killing her kids. That is poor form, if you can back up your claim. You could also consider answering the question I raised on a gender swap on this scenario in the video.
@@melindasmith3713 But they never discuss the possibility of being charged for someone elses' crime
She Strangled 3 Little innocent babies.I'm so sick of hearing the ppd excuses. Alot of mothers experience it,the best thing you can do is lock yourself in a room and call for help. This is devastating.
R.I.P. to those sweet angel's 😢🙏🏻
Maybe you should read up on postpartum psychosis. It's not the same as ppd.
@@avanett1 I don't need to,There is No excuse for killing your children. She had a choice,she chose murder.
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Right?! No excuse! She had plenty of chances to protect her kids, instead of torturing and murdering them.
Well said!
How can he possibly forgive her for murdering their children? I can't comprehend....
I thought pregnancy was miserable… I was wrong postpartum was the worst I felt in my life. This is a Sad story.
I feel for this woman and I feel for her husband. Most of all, I feel so much for their three children.
I know a lot about post partum depression. In 1981 I didn't know what was wrong with me. I loved my child so much before he was born, but then when he came I couldn't connect. I left him and his father. It was a nightmare for me. So much pain and guilt for so many years. Still so painful today and I am close to 70 years old.
I can't even imagine how bad it was for this beautiful, innocent boy of mine.
But maybe me leaving him saved his life. He is a wonderful family and honest man today, and I believe he found it in his heart to love me again.
I really believe I was sick then, but that doesn't take away the pain I caused. I am glad my son and I connected a while back and I can show him everyday how much I love him.
How I wish this family could have had a better outcome. This is so devastating.
This is so heartbreaking!!! I just don’t understand how someone could murder these precious babies.
Then have people trying to defend the cause of her actions. Facts remain she killed those children and anything short of life in prison would be a total injustice. I believe she knew exactly what she did, thats why she waited for the husband to leave the house
@@craigsiedman3974 yep. it’s simple really
Suffering beyond comprehension for a 5 year old, a baby 3 year old and an angel just 8 months old, and for their Daddy who without question loves them all deeply and was looking forward to experiencing their lives with them. The joy of seeing them learn and grow and grow up. Soccer games, crushes, achieving their academic goals, ball games, dances, graduations, college, weddings and grandchildren. Also his entire side of the family who are tonight and forevermore shattered, and the mother's side of the family who are feeling all of that on top of misplaced guilt, shame and responsibility. Please remember, it was only ONE person who stole the lives of 3 beautiful babies and it wasn't any of you. You're not seen in a bad light. I only have love and prayers for you all now and always. I'm so, so very sorry for your emense loss.
So we’re justifying murders now? 😮 this world we live in smh 🤦🏾♂️
Justifying it for the modern woman only. The demonic spirit to kill babies run through the modern woman, and now they erected a statue for it in NYC.
Imo it's not justifying it, but severe ppd with psychosis is a serious illness and it does need to be considered.
If someone has severe psychosis caused by a known medical condition, then that should most definitely be taken into consideration. Instead of blaming the mother or father, try blaming the doctors and the therapists who missed it. She was going to treatment five days a week for PPD. If she was exhibiting signs of psychosis, which is the more severe form, then they're the ones who should have picked up on it.
@@beautifulchaos4383 considered in what? Tons of moms have that and don't strangle their kids so idk what that had to do with anything. Anyone who kills some one is crazy in some way
@@gabrielgalaxygh tons of moms do not get psychosis, post partum happens alot more and if you don't know anything about psychosis maybe you should educate yourself on it.
Horrible! Those poor babies didn't deserve to die. My heart breaks for them.
People don’t realize how serious postpartum depression and psychosis is..
The longer people and doctors continue to not take it seriously, the more this will continue to happen.
Absolutely. There has to be awareness and treatment programs and centers. Lives are being ruined and even lost.
I don’t see anything in this story about someone not taking it seriously. How do we know what she told doctors, if anything at all? How do you know it was PDD? Too early to tell anything yet.
@@Nala_1230 excuse? No. Explanation? Absolutely. You clearly don’t understand PPD/PPP. 🤦🏻♀️
@@daCubanaqt But it feels like if anything people are showing a large degree of empathy given the scale of the crimes. Usually when there's a murder like this people have the pitchforks out. In this case, there's a lot of people that have already exonerated the husband and the wife entirely before we even know the details. Look maybe they are not criminally liable maybe they are I just think we should wait for more information
@@Madithemuggle we really don't understand the details of this particular case to really be making any judgments at all. Just like it's premature into assume she's criminally liable it's obviously premature to exonerate her. You can't diagnose someone from the comment section on RUclips. If a crime was committed and if she's liable or not is something that gets figured out by people that actually will see the perpetrator in a clinical setting. And the determination will be made in a courtroom not in the court of public opinion.
I have 4 children from 13 to 6 weeks. My husband is serving a prison sentence. I work part time and homeschool my children. I've never thought about harming them no matter how much I'm struggling. Everyone can have an excuse to be depressed it's your job to get out if if. I'm so tired of excuses. The victims were her children not her.
It’s not depression, it’s psychosis… reality is altered it’s not just feeling sad
Gretchen, I agree!!! ❤️🙏
@@Sophie-ts2wq excuse maker
Very scary to know that she was a nurse. RIP lil Angels.
Why would they even consider charging the poor husband/ father when he was not the one who killed the kids and he was not even there at the scene of the crime. He didn’t even told her to do that to their kids!
Why is there an automatic assumption that she didn’t do this maliciously?
I'm not buying the sob story for a second. Fine with me if they carve out her uterus with a grapefruit spoon. She's probably got a dude waiting in the wings, like Susan Smith.
Why is it an automatic assumption we know everything? Investigation is still going on. We basically only have the husband's version
Should the husband be held responsible? How is that even a question you ask right now? That’s shameless. This man just lost his entire life due to someone else’s actions. If there is evidence he was an accomplice in any ways the police will bring that up. Gross
Reminder:. We only have his narrative. We don't know what was going on in that house Investigation is still going on. Children aren't even buried yet.
Check to see if any of her patients died under her watch lately just in case you never know cause that would be horrible if so
Strangling someone is very personal…I’ll never be in a place to judge another…I can’t imagine looking at my child and strangling….The doctor should really say “She’s not the first and she won’t be the last” YET AGAIN….The husband forgiving her so quickly….is either a incredibly loving gesture or being completely detached…
She was probably having postpartum depression.
I vividly remember my ex husband walking in on a nap I was having with my 2 children & when it woke me up he said “omg I thought you did it” meaning harming myself & my children . I was suffering from Postpartum psychosis 19 years ago & it’s heart breaking to hear that this is still so misunderstood & not treated properly. I don’t think charging the husband is a solution but there must be some kind of change when it comes to fathers not understanding this illness.
I get you, but he was getting her help, he continues to be supportive and understanding, he seemed to be trying his best. He made a mistake when he left her alone to get food, but I imagine it must've been difficult juggling it all while his wife was going through this. Men in previous cases didn't even help their wives at all, so I really don't think the husband should go to prison when he tried to do the right thing.
@@dream0froses He could have had delivery service like door dash, grub hub or grocery delivery. He needed breaks or relief & could have had a friend or family member stay with her while he ran errands. I don't think either should go to jail as it wasn't intentional, it was psychosis, a valid illness.
She’s a Murder of course she needs to go to Jail killing her little kids are you kidding people.
That’s like a wife hiring a hit man to due her husband in. Or Posion his food 🥘 or drinks 🍹 so many Crazy Evil people in this world men and WOMEN. WHY DO WOMEN ALWAYS GET OFF in 99% of cases ? Poor women really? Anyone man or woman do a crime you must pay the time. We all have a bad day but you don’t kill someone because of bad day. If you feel depressed seek help if you feel you want to give up why take out other family or if you’re going to quit life why rent a vehicle and drive down sidewalks running people over seriously GET HELP.
@@nineangels7572 cause he knew she would kill them right then and there right? and why should she be left off the hook? just cause she "had" psychosis doesn't mean anything people with mental illness still get charged for crimes they commit
@Nine Angels It's called a mental institution if not jail..She might be a danger to herself after she comes to terms with what she did..She needs to be locked up for sure
Postpartum depression is real and scary. I experienced crazy thoughts after 2 of my kids were born. I had to fight the thoughts with every fiber of my being. I never told anyone for fear of people thinking I was crazy. I never said anything to my doctor. Thankfully the thoughts went away. My heart goes out to the family. Mental health of the mothers needs to be taken so seriously. We need to talk about it more!!!
So sorry you went through that. Especially alone xx
Yes agreed. It is harder than people think to find a doctor that knows anything about postpartum psychosis or how to treat it. I found that out when I tried to find medical attention for someone I knew. Finally found out it is a major hormonal imbalance caused by the thyroid and birth. She got thyroid meds, and she was back to her normal self. I don't know why this is not common knowledge in the medical world. They would rather put them on antidepressants which can actually make them worse, or miss the root cause.
@Roots to Rising I also had this after my first baby. I actually fantasized about putting him in the trash bin. So scary, and I'm thankful that those thoughts went away.
Not judging; I've read other posts where PP Mom's who are experiencing paranoid harm ideation to themselves or children have asked to be removed from children until medical care and or medication alleviates. Wondering if Lindsey shared these thoughts with professionals who were treating her 5 days a week.
She better get a life sentence without a chance at parole. Of course she knew what she was doing is wrong. The psychologist gave a really poor interview. Good luck proving insanity at the time of the murders. Prove THAT!
Especially given the fact no one was there in that moment. Guesswork? Are not real facts that only she knows and likely won't say.
But strangulation?….. how personal and horrific… I just genuinely don’t understand how a loving mother could ever do this, if not in psychosis… those poor babies rip
I can fully see how a woman post pregnancy can develop into postpartum depression or psychosis. I know that I had at - least the depression part with my first child at 19 yrs.old. I had no appetite, weighed 103 lbs., felt overwhelmed, had panic episodes, anger, flashes of wanting to harm to my child. Thank God I did not follow through with it. I felt unwell for at least 4 years afterwards. This was 40 yrs.ago. PPD and PPP had not been studied or known about as it is today. I had my second and third child following and never suffered those symptoms with them. I think hormones can really effect a woman or her having undiagnosed mental health issues that begin after giving birth. I do not judge, I unfortunately have experienced things going hay - wire.
LAWD!.... Noooo!... 😩 Those precious babies.... smh... This is too horrific...
Prayers up to their souls... and their beautiful spirits... 🙏🏽
My family has been going thru my grandson having psychosis,its very real for them and very terrifying for all involved,my heart goes out to the family🙏
If a woman kills her children is depression. If a man kills his children, he deserves the death penalty.
stop assume genders pls
She is held to higher standards. Mostly by men themselves
prayers for the father and the family i cant image losing your whole world this way 💔
I knew someone who went thru this, except they saw the signs and a doctor was told. The father had sign papers saying he would not leave child with the mother unattended until she was well again. When he worked, family would have to come stay, so all worked out and the mom eventually got better and no harm came to the baby or herself.
Good for the father,he saved his children👏
It's interesting how family murders are represented differently when it is a mother vs a father.
Cuz they ARE different .
Very naive statement.
So men who kill their children are evil and women who kill their children are just sick and need help?
There are a lot of people with depression who don't murder their family.
@Renee Wentz defending a murder
Such beautiful angels..... Gone even before starting their life☹️☹️
REST IN PEACE ♥️♥️♥️♥️
so incredibly sad !!! those kids were beyond adorable RIP Babies !!🙏🙏🙏
Unfortunately I have had psychosis happen to me before 😔 you will really see and hear things that are not there. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone, it’s so scary. I’m thankful I didn’t hurt myself or anyone while in an episode. I was drugged when it happened to me
Woooow. A mother has only ONE JOB. And this isn’t it 🤦🏽♂️.
u win some u lose some
Omg this is heartbreaking. More and more examples why we need universal health care in this country. My heart breaks. These children are beautiful, as is she.
For real! We should only vote for leaders who we trust will support national healthcare legislation.
She was getting help 5 days a week it wasn’t the fact that she wasn’t cared for. The dad left the house for a half hour.
Heartbreaking
So very sad!! Poor children
This case has me in tears every day. It haunts me. It is so painful to see those little innocent faces. I can only imagine how the father must feel and the mother, when she comes to.
I cant wait to see her sent to prison for murder, of course when she comes to
she has come to. she asked for a lawyer
He worked from home because of her illness she was a nurse at a Boston hospital he left for 25 minutes to get takeout and the unthinkable happened…..heartbreaking 😢
Those kids should have been in daycare. She was not fit to be a stay at home mom.
This is heartbreaking RIP poor babies
Absolutely heartbreaking. There’s no making reason, this is horrible.
This is so heartbreaking, there should be so much more help out there instead of thousands of dollars a months facilities, what people can't afford and then just have to suffer because of it as their insurance won't cover it and so on. My thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends 🙏
How do you end the life of just ONE child-and watch their precious soul leave at OWN own hands-and then STILL have the energy, focus, and will to do it TWO MORE TIMES! That is just insane.
RIP to all the kids :( I wish she could have noticed her own decline as a nurse, and taken quicker action
This could be simple avoided 🤦♀️
This is so so sad :(
Oh Lord, please comfort the family!
I hope she survives. She can tell us what she was thinking.
We need better mental health care in the US full stop.
If they charge the Dad, I will just not believe it. How could they ever consider that?
MA has a habit of charging parents like that. My sister was charged for child endangerment because she left the kids with someone who was "unsafe". She went to work to support her family, he was watching the kids, left them alone and went to go shoplift. Promptly got arrested. My sister called them because she couldn't get home for a few hours (Nurse on noc shift, no car or transportation). They dropped the charges but they still tried
@@theenicc6483 Sorry about your sister. That is too much. My brother ended up taking a case to the MA Supreme Court some years ago because he spanked his son. Remember David Brudnoy? He got involved because he knew how invasive it was. My brother won, btw. I sure hope they don't charge this poor father--too sad.
i can't imagine what the husband is going through right now, so heartbreaking 💔
Pretty sure this is exactly what Andrea Yates suffered with. She became convinced her children had the devil in them before drowning them all in a bathtub, then called 911 on her own. In her interviews it's obvious she wasn't in her right mind. What a horrific thing to suffer with, and horrible for all involved.
Andrea Yates called her husband at work because she was semi conscious and scared. She was hearing voices tell her to kill her children. She also had 5 children and no help and car to leave. She didn't try and kill herself because she didn't know what she did. This vile witch waited until her husband left and kept checking his gps to see how far away he was so she had enough time after strangling each baby. This witch got all the help offered plus more and was extremely wealthy. Big difference.
Postpartum depression is the most widely recognized, but unfortunately, there can be different diagnoses. PP psychosis is a severe mental illness, sometimes acute. I wish she had known that this would come to pass. 😢 Poor babies, and poor dad! How awful and tragic in every sense of this story! 💔
Wow, horrible.
If I had a spouse that did this, I could not ever forgive them.
Post partum depression and psychosis is very real. I experienced it myself. Parents need to be educated prior to release from the hospital.
Right. I just had a baby in Dec and all they say is if you start feel sad or have crazy thoughts, talk to someone.
I do feel bad she was going through this. But her babies were choked. Choking isn’t instant. They’re poor hearts were probably wondering why their mama was hurting them. So sad
Oh my God. 😭
Exatly the same thing happened only a few years ago in Ireland. One mother that was working as a Nurse at Children's Hospital in Dublin.. She also had a 3 beautiful.. RIP👼🏼👼🏼👼🏼 little angels.🕊️
Her husband was also left to grief, and live through this nightmare. I can't even imagine how, but I think - he's trying to cope with it, and understand it, and hopefully he is trying to forgive.. 💔
Another dreadfully sad incident, my heart goes out to all involved. Can we please stop confusing ppd and ppp, there's a big difference. When you have depression you are still in control, when you go over the line into psychosis all control is gone because you lose sight with reality. Very serious medical intervention is required. Nobody with this condition should be left alone with their children until it is well under control.
Post natal psychosis is real I had to go to a mental clinic for 3 weeks after my second. There were 2 women in there with it. It was heartbreaking 💔
She should've been in a facility and this would've never happened..The doctor treating her knew there was children in the house..Sad situation..I'm glad u got help..It takes courage to admit it as such a difficult time..
Wow really. What do you do in there?
This case is heartbreaking