The Movie Industry Is Killing Itself And I'm Starting To NOT CARE
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- As a major fan of going to the movies, I've been helplessly watching the industry killing itself with self-inflicted wounds. At this point, I'm starting to not care anymore.
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As much as i love a great John Campea rant. There is something sad about hearing him say "I'm close to saying fuck the movie business." In my eyes it means that the theatre industry days are truly numbered.
I hear you
It’s like if Nicole Kidman said that during her AMC movie intro
I disagree, too many movies are still making money. But the issues are there and the greed could kill it. For them to try and monitor and regulate prices like that is just BS and it could cost them.
SO TRUE, preach on John. I have been a talent agent in LA for 27 years and have seen all of the changes in this industry. The Movie theaters are slowly committing suicide.
The film industry is turning into the airplane industry.
cineworld had the right concept with the subscription service its 25 bucks a month for the most expensive tier it made the theater access a affordable concept if i got some of those numbers right but the reason i feel cineworld did it right is ease of access between tv/movie steaming services and subcription video game services they all have one thing in common a single price for everything they offer its ease of use to the consumer the cost of entry system for theaters is broken its harder to complete with the other 2 forms
Which agency are you with please?
@@olubamiwo Clear Talent Group
@@pmarcus0007 I am a British actor but also with Luber roklin. Could I send you an email please?
I actually quit my job at cineplex because I got so damn tired of getting basically yelled at because of the prices and Reached my breaking point a few weeks ago
Correct me if i'm wrong, but there's been another price increase recently right? I'm seeing $15.50 for some general admission now, where before at most it was $14.00 or $14.25.
@@BarnesGannon where I live in New Brunswick it’s still $14.25 so it might be different province to province but idk for sure
At the AMC near me if you get an early bird screening and you watch your regular digital movie with taxes even if it’s blockbuster movie it’s less than $10
@@Joel37644 I'm also in New Brunswick! Hello from Moncton! And I have a hard time justifying going to the cinema, or anywhere for that matter and I have a decent wage at 55k a year. My rent, my food, my power, my internet, my cellphone is just eating everything I have. I frankly don't know how min wage workers are surviving right now. Anywho... I have other means to watch things, for the price of a VPN. >:)
@@Joel37644Also from New Brunswick! Small world. I go to the theatre in Fred
This is an epic Campea rant and is 100% deserved
They're crazy if they think I'm paying extra to watch that damn Nicole Kidman video one more time
Heartbreak feels good in a place like this
😂
😂😂😂 Right! I’m tired of that damn video of her lol 😂
Typical business. The workers will hear all the complaints and the decision makers will sit back and hide and get all the money
Exactly the life of a cashier, having to hear all the complaints from people when they’re not in charge of setting prices.
@@liquor-pinata9770 The weird thing about that is groceries are some of the lowest prices in decades even accounting for the recent increases.
I’m glad John is speaking out. People in the industry need to speak out like John.
I’m a regional director for a corporate restaurant chain! Our new CEO did exactly what you said. He consolidated our menu by removing 72 items and other areas took that money and tripled the marketing budget and executed a new marketing strategy and in the last fiscal year are sales are up 17%. A lot of these big companies have flat out gotten lazy and just squeeze consumers b/c it’s the easy thing to do.
The second they started showing regular TV commercials I was done. How can it be a movie experience when I see the same commercials that I see at home that shit bugs the hell out of me🤬
wow i havent been in a long time last movie i saw was tom cruise mummy disaster so its been a min, i didnt know its gotten so bad
To be honest the theater experience has gotten so bad for me that only reason I still go is to support the movies themselves, not the experience of going necessarily and I 100% understand why people don’t want to go anymore
Took The Words Right Out My Mouth
@vloggie300i usally only go to the theaters when I go visit my parents 2 or 3 times a year and maybe once or twice by myself but this year I’ve only seen Godzilla minus one and alien Romulus this year has just been light on what I want to see but I don’t really like the experience of the theater anymore
Here's crazy idea.
1. Make tickets affordable. That's includes candy & pop prices.
Going to see Alien: Romulus a second time last weekend was one of the worst theater experiences I've ever had. A group of maybe like 10 kids and teenagers who were on their phones and loudly talking behind my friends and I the entire time. After experiences like these I fully understand why people decide to wait and watch films at home.
Yea it's bad I remember I sat in the theater for the whole dark knight trilogy 😂 good old days smh
I feel truly blessed that I’ve never had a theatre experience like that or even one where kids are obnoxiously talking or texting
And also the wrinkling of candy wrappers, like nails on a chalkboard!
Can relate I also had a crap experience funnily enough while watching Alien Romulus.
A guy constantly kicking and pressing his foot into the back of my seat, his partner’s foot coming through the gap in the seats and onto my wife’s armrest, the same people getting up multiple times in the film and walking across the front, people talking to each other about work gossip in the seats beside me and when I complained after the film to the management all they had to say was “you should have come and spoke to us” and I was saying ‘you’ve literally got monitors to watch what is going on in your screenings, I was even pointing for anyone watching which clearly no-one was, but you expect me to lose perhaps a crucial 20 minutes of the film to raise these issues, after I’ve driven here when I’m not a local, spent money and given up my evening after work to be here to watch this film”
@@MissStateFanI saw A Quiet Place and it most certainly bloody wasn’t anything resembling a quiet place.
Who are these people that can’t grasp that you open packets of things and dig into popcorn, or slurp (if you must) during louder scenes like action, explosions or loud music scores, not during silent scenes or quiet dialogue moments 🤦🏻♂️
The only John Campea video I'll watch twice in a row. This made me cry.
This should be a TEDTalk for every single consumer service that is out there today.
Stop nickel and diming the people who were already paying you
It's so stupid because it's something they can easily fix
How do they fix it?
@@GefilteFish. ..................less trailers, on time films, lower tix & concessions. tf? you ever been on this channel b4? lolol
@@GefilteFish. Start enforcing the no phone & talking policy, cheaper tickets (or more subscriptions like A List), no more than 3 trailers like The Arclight used to do, offer more dining options, offer discounts for families & family friendly rooms for people with kids & so much more they can do to fix this mess.
@vsznry the reason for the high prices of items in the theaters is due to need more funds to pay for expenses.
Yes, it's not the consumers fault but it's true.
Also, streaming did impact tickets sales due to people are willing to wait until a movie is streamed.
@@GefilteFish. Theatre chains aren't actually losing money if you account for admin salaries. Cut the salaries and they'd be breaking even.
This is already happening in Canada at Cineplex. Tickets for bigger movies cost $1.25 more here. Example: An IMAX ticket for Beetlejuice is $22.50, but Transformers One in IMAX is $21.25. The Wild Robot in IMAX is also $21.25. But fast forward a week and Joker 2 is $22.50.
Same thing with general admission. Beetlejuice is $15.50, and a smaller movie like Speak No Evil is $14.25. I fear this will only get worse too.
In Southern California AMC was charging 30$ for Deadpool tickets opening weekend
@@chrisbrown113096 insanity
Thankfully my local theater hasn’t started this BS… that’s crazy.
Fr. Every saturday i buy me and my girlfreind 2 tickets for 10.48$.
I rather buy food at the grocery store than buy a movie ticket. Things are so expensive. I see a lot of ppl struggling to buy food. Cost of living is so expensive. This is so upsetting. Now this makes me sad.
Gas is high, Inflation is high. UGHHHH
Exactly. Just 2 or 3 years ago, my weekly grocery budget to feed a family of 4 was about $150-$200. Now? $300-$400
Hollywood is lucky if I go to the theater
@badger3184 but of course.
I rarely get drinks and popcorn at the theaters and I'd eat before I go to the movies.
Or after, depending on if I'm hungry or not.
@@AshParth560
Same
@@AshParth560
One time a lady snuck in Chinese food into the movie theatre. It so was strong and disgusting. She was sitting two rolls behind me. LoL the smell literally gave me a stomach ache.
I think that’s part of the problem the movie theater industry so the great depression and the 2008 housing crash which had a lot worse inflation than that’s going on currently. I feel like one of the reason is the movie theater window time.
Get em, John
Appreciate John implicating the studios as well. They take so much of the ticket revenue from theaters, and in turn the theater charges more for tickets and food
I remember back in February they were going to charge more to sit in the middle seats but they dropped that idea because people complained.
Thank God they didn't go through with that. That's a terrible idea.
I used to go out to the theater about once a month or more. Sometimes I'd just drop by on a whim and watch whatever is out. Now I only go out on exceptional movies that I want a big screen.
this is the start of a John Campea Theatre Chain business arc. Bet!
it will be fantastic.
They just raised the prices AGAIN at my local theater. $27.99 for 1 Imax ticket + a $2.19 booking fee.
No one should pay 30 dollars for one screening this is ridiculous.
Thats wild what the fuck is a booking fee?
Home movie theater. Best investment I made this year.
85” tv and at most sound
It’s great…. Not just for movies but everything
The greed of these companies are mind boggling. Not just the theaters but the studios too. Making budgets so high that it's almost impossible for them to not flop. I feel like every other movie this year is a flop.
There actually has been a trend of studious pulling back some of their budgets and even some of the films that didn’t make a whole lot, are still fairly successful globally cuz the budget wasn’t so inflated: alien Romulus, beetlejuice, a quiet place day1, twisters, Apes, heck even despicable me 4 didn’t cost 200 million
I've been saying it for YEARS; it's not the long trailers, it's not concession prices, it's not crappy seats or loud disruptive patrons. The main factor driving people away from going to theaters is absolutely 100% the PRICE OF A TICKET. They have raised prices sooooo much over the last 15-20 years. When I was in high school (mid 2000s) a movie ticket was ~$4.50, in the most expensive city in the USA (SF), which is a way lower percentage of the median American salary at the time compared to today's ticket prices as a percentage of the median current day American salary. They've raised prices higher and faster than wages have increased.
In the 80s & 90s when I was kid/teenager going to the movies used to be something I'd do all the time with friends. We'd go once or twice every month. It was something fun that was affordable for a 14 year old. I can't imagine that is true for kids of a similar age today, at least with anywhere near the same frequency.
What theater were you going to, cause I was around then and in TN tickets were at least 8 dollars, 4.50 is super low for even then, only tickets that were that low around here were local ones that played old films
4 tickets is like $100 at AMC for imax and some regular screens. Ridiculous.
Edited to remove incorrect figure
@@paulrogers2549 Your math is far off. $4.50 in 2000 is $8.xx today.
The worst is AMC showing that long ass commercial with Nicole Kidman saying come to AMC....Ummm we are at a AMC. So stupid and another waste of 2 minutes.
Them thinking we're still in the days of swaying people with celebrity endorsement...and Nicole Kidman much less...just shows how out of touch they really are.
My nephew is a manager at AMC and he said they are trying to push more and more people to AList per corporate instruction!
It’s sad what the Cinematic industry has become… I blame Streaming
@@kennethnero2011 I mean, you're not wrong, especially since it's been big since the COVID days.
Also perhaps ushers should stop people using their phones, talking instead of the person making the complaint having to leave because the film been ruined.
Ironically that’s what Stacy Spikes was talking about with Movie Pass. He has emphasized how do we create an environment that brings in more people. If you do that, It will bring in more revenue. I like your passion John!
At some point the movie industry will have to wake up and realize this business model isn't sustainable. Maybe the only way it will change if there is more support for local theaters as opposed to large corporate theater chains like AMC.
I’m no economist and don’t have all the facts, but as someone who loves the art of film but has stopped going to large theaters because the value for money isn’t there anymore, raising prices does not do anything to bring me back.
I’m lucky enough to have an independently owned cinema in my area where I’m a member, it’s 100 bucks a year for 2 people to go to 2 movies a month. Now that’s some value, and they actually participate in our community and give a damn about their clientele. I don’t care about the next big blockbuster anymore, but the Indy theater was the only place that showed American Fiction last year and those seats were all filled.
It’s not even always trailers, it’s commercials too like we see on cable!
I'm just glad that we have one of the nicest theaters I've ever been to near me that is a locally owned theater that is a fraction of the cost of an AMC. They have a bucket that you purchase for $25 and it is refilled free for the year. They have a full kitchen and bar. As a bonus they have concerts, on Sundays they show the local NFL game for free. It's just a great venue and as a bonus their arcade has classic video games that are free to play. It's the St Michael Cinema in St Michael, MN.
If the CEOs took a pay cut and didn’t take any bonuses, they could lower the prices of concessions so people would be in instead of us to go to the theatres just to get snacks and hang out.
When I was younger, we had friends who went to the theatre to get snacks and hang out.
My issues with going to the theater:
*Movie starts 30-45 mins late because of previews and ads.
*There is ALWAYS a loud ass group of people sitting near me. Not sure how I always get so unlucky
*Concession prices are insane. Also, I don’t need my small soda to be 32oz
*Ticket prices are ridiculous
Give me a reason to not wait for it to hit streaming…
Movies are expensive, before it used to be 8.50 with my Cinemark membership. Now it’s 11 dollars WITH the membership. 22 dollars for 2 people and that’s regular screenings! When I went to watch Deadpool and Wolverine in imax fan event at AMC, it was like 43 dollars! I didn’t care at the time but damn it’s fucken crazy how much it is
$5 tight wad Thursday … $6.50 matinees and $8 prime time shows
Oh yeah. I have Cinemark MC as well, and I'm getting close to dropping it. If it increases to another $2 or $3 dollars, I'm removing it and possibly going to the new MoviePass plan.
@@lordrayden3045 yea for me here in the Bay Area, discount day is Tuesday at Cinemark and it’s 7 with a membership
Here in the U.K. cineworld unlimited is £18 ($24) a month and you can see as many films as you want within that month but you will pay booking fees of £0.89 ($1.17) and uplift for IMAX of about £5 ($6.59)
If I went to see an IMAX film with my wife it would likely cost me about £24 ($32) because she’s not a cineworld unlimited member, if I wasn’t then you’re looking at around £35 ($46)
Damn! John spittin' FACTS! I hope someone listens. It's not entirely the theatres' fault. Hollywood and distributors aren't innocent either.
For Alien Romulus and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, we checked our watches for nearly 30 minute previews. Also that tired as hell Nichole Kidman segment is a waste of time!
What is that?
I live in Scotland.
@@anubusx Nichole has a segment where she talks about the experience of being in a theater. It's completely unnecessary as that's why we are all there, to be in a theater opposed to our tv at home.
They're committing seppuku.
That’s exactly what Sony did with the PS5 Pro pricing. 😅
Incorrect. Seppuku is meant to reclaim your lost honor. All they are doing is proving they never had any.
@@tigerseye619I second that. Theaters are just getting sleazier
AMC should hear this rant from a true movie lover.
John needs to start a theater
When I moved to L.A. in the late 90's, I would go to the AMC 14 and see a double feature (matinee) for $8!!
I used to go to the movies almost every weekend. I see maybe 2 movies a year now.
💯 agree. Taking my 2 boys to watch a movie costs me $80 including concessions. The cost of living is not in line with inflation. The have these actors thanking us to come to movies at the beginning of the show, they need to make a stand too
The Harkins chain out here is totally opposite and they rib AMC for doing this. They also show less trailers. AMC has 40 minutes of trailers and then Nicole comes on.
The VUE cinema in the UK is as little as £4.99 for any film any day.
Love Vue, those leather reclining seats are great
Righteous anger. I feel you John. I don't even live in America and I'm pissed off by this. The greed is disgusting.
IDK about the US but in Australia they show local ads for about 15 minutes, and then trailers for another 15 and they tell you off if you bring your own food ( but you can lie and say you're a diabetic). The whole experience is a little grubby. A 1.5 hour movie, between the ads and the travel and buying affordable snacks at the supermarket, can eat up 3 hours of your day. It's a huge timesink. They need to fix this.
Not only that the theater experience is prohibitively expensive, but people's behavior in the theater is atrocious.
I mean he’s absolutely right. HOW are they not understanding that the more you increase ticket prices, the LESS people are going to want to pay to go to the movies?? It literally is that simple
Having worked as a cultural professor and running a nonprofit that helps people launch business, the one thing I tell my students is that “the movie industry and Hollywood do not understand business”
No where else can you run a business by alienating your customers. Well I mean you can but you won’t have a business for long. Slowly they’re realizing this I.e the acolyte but it may be too late
Everyone should just get on the AMC Movie Pass. I pay the same price as one imax screening a month to see as many movies as I want.
I'm glad my movie theater is by me. The imagine theaters still has there $5 Tuesdays to watch movies. I don't know how long that's going to last, but they still have it.
I did a thesis in college about the success of the movie industry during the Great Depression, and theaters did things to bring people into the theatre. They did not just focus on people who would go regardless
Sadly, is not just in America that is happening, is happening across the globe. Theaters are shutting down in Singapore. IMAX with $22 pricing barely fill 5 rows of seats (50-60) during weekends.
I love campea rants 😂
I love going to the movies, my wife feels it's too expensive. She stopped going with me, and at first, I was annoyed. Now I don't blame her. I just take the kids occasionally when I can afford it.
19 bucks a month A List!!!! Best deal in the world.
It's tough, but that's why I have the AMC A-Lister for around $25/month. I can see 3 movies/week if I want, which includes IMAX, Dolby, & Prime. I like it because I can support some of the smaller budget films when they come out. It is frustrating when some films are only in theater for a few days and I don't even get a chance to see them. I am lucky I live in LA where we get a lot of indie films that most markets don't even get. I feel like the A-list is the most bang for your buck, 1-month fee is equivalent to 1 IMAX film so you might as well. Overall prices are ridiculous and smaller films deserve to stay longer before going to streaming. I'm trying to support the dying industry, mainly my friends and other the people that make up the industry.
💯🔥❤️
What you are saying is absolutely true but they also suffer from studios making terrible movies. It’s hard to sell a crap product.
This brings me joy. Pushing for theater only releases, after covid, was the dumbest thing they could have ever done. Toothpaste back in the container.
Say good bye to the days when a company would spend more than 20 million on a movie.
@@vederianl9723 I’ll take it.
$7.00 is the cheapest at Alamo Drafthouse near me. Only on Tuesdays tho
I remember an old Eric theatre in my hometown that was about to close and they ran a promo for $4 all you can eat/drink popcorn and soda. That theatre stayed open another 12 years.
Very true. Still, i have no hope the people who run the movie theaters will "see the light".
John is really pissed! I agree totally by the way 😢
Some will hear John's complaints and see it as him being melodramatic or just hating on the industry executives, but its not that. Its the frustration and sadness that you feel when watching a loved one hurt themselves over and over - and despite your best efforts you know you are helpless and can only observe as they crash and bottom out again, and again, and again. That lack of self-respect slowly became an abusive relationship with us the audience.
I'd notice. I would watch a regular priced movie instead. But then they would raise the price of all the movies.
One of the old movie theaters by me has 5.00 tickets on mondays, and they have a 5.00 small popcorn and small drink special.. We voted in our city to help fund this theater for repairs etc so we could continue having this movie experience where people could in fact afford to go to the movies. it is in conjunction with Atlas Cinemas as a customer appreciation and so we appreciated back. Many of my generation and now our kids have worked there and has been a community staple. My family goes 2x a month to the movies 1x for customer appreciation and 1x for a regular showing so we can help this particular theater stay open.
The movie theater ticket is ridiculously expensive now…….
Here in the Uk we get a few commercials, trailers and MORE commercials, all adding up to around 30 mins. Ugh.
As much as I used to love watching movies in the theatre, yeah it's too expensive, and I haven't really felt like going to see anything on the big screen. The only one I really wanted to see was Deadpool and Wolverine, and mission accomplished. That said, I'm okay with waiting for digital or streaming now because they kind of made it easier to wait for the digital one instead and have a viewing party at home. Like yeah like John pointed out, the movie industry is killing itself.
You go John! I think the only option is to tank the industry until these "Robber Barrons" like Bob Iger are no longer involved. Then people who love movies can slowly bring it back. I noticed that my theater was charging me for the reclining seats. I had no idea.
He’s absolutely right. This is an unsustainable business model and will be doomed to fail if they don’t start making changes soon.
Great vid, glad it got cut out on it's own. As for the analogy, I'm pretty sure it's a frog not a lobster.
I won’t lie i didn’t even watch the video and read the caption and immediately agreed… now I’ll watch it
I saw BeetleJuice for $8 opening day, just dont go to AMC, unless AMC is the only theater in your city, just go to another one. I havent paid more than $10 for a movie in years.
Yo that look of anger and disgust at 3 minutes and 40 seconds had me fucking dying laughing. I felt that
That’s how a lot of companies are dealing with the challenging times. They raise prices, fleecing consumers they have left out of more money. The ones that can’t afford are left out. It’s always been that way it’s just this time around inflation exploded over the years since COVID.
Great Rant Campea. Wow. 💯💯💯
I saw a movie at the AMC theater two weeks ago. I spent over $80 for two tickets, two popcorn bags, and two water bottles. I watched the same movie at the little theater around the corner, and it cost me $38 for the same film and the same food choices. I don't know about you all, but I'm going to the movies regularly each month. I'd rather spend under $40 than over $80.
AMC … empty wallets feel good in a place like this.
Watching movies at home is just way more convenient. I have been to the theater twice since COVID and will just wait for most to get to streaming
At this point, we're going backwards, back to stage theatre business😂
Exactly. Movies will become the new broadway if they don’t get more creative
IMAX and 3D are always more expensive here in Canada. Another issue up here is a lot of films don't screen here.
I love when all the fans have more basic intelligence than the people up top.
I've gone from going every week even 2 times a week, to going once every 4 months, less even. Too expensive and not good experiences, people with the phone out all the time, either talking or taking pictures, etc.
Locally owned theatre has $5 tightwad Thursdays (new releases included)…. $6.50 before 5pm and $8 after
Can’t beat it
The last movie I went to was Dune Part 1 at my local cinema, but ever since there hasn't been a movie I've felt the need to go to the cinema for, not since I got 5.1 surround at home. These days I wait for the 4K blu ray release and enjoy it in my own home.
Where I live, I cant afford AMC prices. $17 a ticket is ridiculous.
I go to the "cheap" theater (used to be the buck fifty theater back in the 90s) Even so, its $12.50/ticket at night, $10 matinee, $10 Medium Soda and $10 Medium popcorn. A matinee would be $30 for the "full theater experience".
I can only go to movies I really want to support which honestly is not many.
Round of applause from the UK. Well said, John. I'm tired of going to the cinema too $$££
Keep cookin them John… this is crazy.
John nearly became the Hulk.
Regal tried to charge me $60 for two beetle juice tickets , so I took my daughter to the local ncg theater for $13 per ticket with recliner seats.
John is 100% right, industry need make good movies again while rest industry need stop rising prices.
I do believe this is happening in the entire world. Here in Brazil movie theatres are very expensive.
A dolby ticket in Ca near where i am is $26.
Popcorn and two sodas is about $30.
So going for a dolby movie for 2 people totals around $80.
Imagine a family of four would likely pay around $140 for one movie.
I'm subscribing. This guy is great.
I agree, it is too expensive right now to go to movies. This makes me only seeing block buster movies at the cinema.
“Some anonymouses just want to watch the world burn” best laugh I had today, thank you sir!