Just replaced 2 manifolds, I drilled too far into a fitting where there was a leak, made the new manifolds put in all 14 connections, none leaked, but the flex pipes are so ridged they caused 2 leaks at the fittings. Ordered those socket savers for this time. Also a new unrelated leak at one light showed up, ordered the lense kit to fix. Always seems like a new leak is right around the corner... I will start using flex clear hose like you do... I didn't this time, just used regular manifolds with glue inside. So glad I don't have all that insulation, mine is insulated on the outside boards. Fixed a long time leak at the filter housing, it was so easy, removed the filter housing screw thing, cleaned up, used boss silicon, can't believe I let it leak for so long... Thank you for all the video's. I will be getting these conversations to clear pipe from you as needed.
Well that was very helpful. This is the exact problem I am tackling. When to prime what glue to use what knife to use and how to cut out foam insulation. Very helpful!!! 👍
Love watching your videos. Learning a lot. I just changed a one speed pump and it was easy. You explain things in a very simple manner. Repair shops here in san antonio only replace parts and do not bother to fix things. That repair that you did, they would have recommended to replace the whole tub. Good job in diagnosing it.
I'd like to know what made you decide to get into the spa business. You are so good at it and it seems you really enjoy your work. All your videos on everything you do are superb!
Hey Spa Guy- I just got a tub with freeze damage- some questions for you: 1-How do I diagnose issues without powering the tub? 2- How to you power a hot tub temporarily for testing purposes? 3- What should I check first, second, third etc? thanks for the great info!
Great Video! I was nervous about fixing our hot tub but now I know this is something that I can do myself! 1 question, do you spray foam back onto the areas that you repaired? If so, what kind do you recommend or is that available in your store?
Thanks for your videos- this helped me fix the issues I had with my viking tub but without your guidance I would have probably left it sitting on my deck or just bought a new one which I really didnt want to do. Thanks a bunch!
Hey Spa Guy, I ordered parts from you and they were at my door in two days. Used your info and fixed my hot tub! Thanks for the help and quick shipping! Thank You
I like to do as much as I can, I had the circuit board blow, literally burned the board, had someone come out to rewire it, he was good but couldn't figure out where the connections went. Luckily I found a picture online of the board connections, fixed myself. I've done the circulating pump, heater, run pumps, circuit board, leaks, fittings, filter silicon, pretty much all of it now. 3rd hot tub I've owned. Hoping to be leak free soon, I pray...
Just curious....how would you normally charge to do such extensive repair/refurbishing on a tub like this, keeping in mind you had to remove the hot tube, take it back to your shop and then reinstall it? How does an average customer afford such extensive, labor intensive repairs? I have an older HotSprings tub and have a small leak near the drain valve. But as a contractor /home service repair person myself i would have to charge minimum, about $1,000 maybe including parts or not? I really like your vids!!! Very nice work. I'm a "jiggy boo" person myself. LOL!!!!
Do you have a video or pictures with more details of your wet test bench. I have a tub to fix with several leaks and would like to no do it on the ground. Thanks for any help you can give me.
GREAT VIDEO !!! I have a tub and the 1" black pvc flex pipe has come out of the FEMALE end of a manifold ( the manifold then has 4 x 3/8" tubes that goes to jest). What is the best way to fix this connection? I was thinking of gluing in a 1" solid piece of pvc pipe (maybe 6" long) into the manifold then, using a coupler, connecting the flex pipe to the new pvc pipe . This manifold connection has leaked twice and is in an extremely difficult place to try and do a proper glue fix "flex pipe to the solid female pvc manifold". Any ides would be thankful. I like the way to do repairs !!!!
New to your channel not sure of this has bee asked. after those pipe repairs would you refoam those lines to help with heat retention and freezing. Great videos new to hot tubs this videos have take the mystery and "scary" out of them . You make the issues so simple for the plumbing and electrical
Hi.... so you are saying that this tub had freeze points while it was full of water? I just opened up my Hot Springs Landmark tub after sitting covered for ten years and found mice had chewed a large hole through the middle of my insulated cover and water had gotten in enough to fill the drain port. And I saw that the screw-on drain port cover was off indicating that the water that had gotten in it apparently froze and forced the cover off. After cleaning and filling the tub I found two leaks, one directly under that area and another about a foot or so from it near the side of the tub. So I must have freeze damage there. I measured the loss and found that I lose about an inch of water in the tub in 24 hours. Both spots underneath are a steady drip. The tub weighs in at about 877 pounds empty and it sits on a raised deck so I can observe about where the leaks seem to be coming from. When the tub was purchased and brought in there was access for heavy equipment. Now I cannot get anything large enough in there to make it an easy raise so I have to figure out how I am going to get the tub up on its side to work on it. Other than that, since I found your channel on youtube, I guess I will be visiting your store and hoping to get some pointers from you when I proceed. I plan to continue using the tub for now until the water is to be changed then I will empty it and begin work. I plan to continue to add water every day and make sure the chemical balance is within range in the mean time. Any other recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.
@@joyf7112 Yes, two years ago. The only damage was in the drain port on the bottom that had cracked from freeze. I had to flip the tub up and dig in to remove and replace, but everything went fine and I am using it today as I write. I replaced the insulated top since the mice had destroyed the old one. Winter is coming again and the tub is the only thing that keeps my sanity.
You don't have to turn the manifold.. When You Spin it to Win It you spin a coupler until it stops which is part of the kits, then glue new parts the rest of the way.. You only spin it until it stops when gluing new to old.. Thanks, Spa Guy
Hi Spa-Guy, just started watching. Love your skill and videos!! Question: do you re-foam after the repairs? If you do I would like to see how you do that. Thanks, Lou
I don't unless I make a small hole in the foam.. I would in most cases cut out a 1" piece of foam board and place it in the void behind the panel that way it is insulated and if you ever have future issues you can open it right back up..
It would be unusual for the manifold you need not to ne on my site.. Did you look there? hottubpartsofamerica.com/plumbing-and-related-parts/water-manifolds/manifolds-singles-and-related-parts/2-water-manifolds/
Rats have chewed holes in several tubes and I'm having a difficult time finding a reliable repair man. I'm pretty handy and can probably repair some of them myself. I've already bought some of the glue, but what type of hose do I need to purchase for my Master spa Legacy? Both size tubing have been affected 😔
Hello Greg, I don;t because there is really no economical way to do it.. What I will do is cut a piece of 3/4-1" foam board and place it in the void behind where the panel would screw on and cut it to fit the inside the framing on any area that I have removed from a from.. Thanks, Spa Guy
On these manifold repairs it doesn’t look important to make the connections land in the same location on the manifold?? It’s just a water supply?? Is this correct?? Working on a Sundance camo 880 back massager rebuild and broke one of the supply on the pvc manifold. I’m pretty new at hot tub repair.
The spot of the connection does not make any difference.. The beautiful part of hot tubs is you can make them be plumbed the way you want it doesn't have to be like it was..
I found a thiner crack in the middle one of 5, 4-port manifolds. Would you recommend that I replace all 5 manifolds or just 3 of them where they all connect in middle? I also have the thick foam on all throughout spa.
April if the manifolds are not glued together and you can replace only a few I would do that but if they are glued together there is no way to replace only a few.. You have to clip the foam out with a flat screw driver and I also use a sheetrock saw.. Spa Guy
Hello, when you glued the flex pipe inbetween the two headers u didnt use primer? also when you put the flex pipe in between the 2 headers u didnt spin it? Thanks for the videos.
If you watched the video and paid attention you will find that I don't purple prime or spin when gluing new to new only old to new... Thanks for watching... Spa Guy
I just put a new pump in mine to discover that all of the 2" line and manifolds were split. I tried to removed the foam from the tubing and the jet barbs started breaking off. Its 10 years old but has a new heater and pump. I gave up but wonder if I gave up too easily. I felt the next, inevitable step was having to replace tubing, main run, manifolds and several jets - unless I am missing something.
Hello Shaun, You can replace the manifolds themselves without replacing the tubing other than you may need to extend the tubes.. As indicated in the video.. Thanks, Spa Guy
@@SpaGuy thanks. Yeah, I meant the jet housings were breaking when I was moving the tubing. I got two of the three out yesterday and another hour from having all the broken supply line removed. That being said, seeing you extend the tubing simplified it a lot. I just started cutting them in a logical place and cleaning off foam.
No good spray foam to fill back in.. I use 1" flat foam board and cut them to fit the voids behind the side panels.. Insulated well and you can still service behind them..
Why do the tub manufactures make it a pain in the ass to fix? I think the hardest part is digging the pipes out. U are very intelligent and very mechanical inclined Spa Guy.. I have a 2012 Hot Springs-Envoy that I bought brand new from a local dealer. Dealer is great, but expensive when needed for service. I have a feeling that my leak is in exactly the same place as in this video.. I can probably fix this tub but I'm scared. I never attempted it before.. Spa Guy--Do you live in Erie PA? :)
if you turn on a fan the foam would spray everwhere. but if you don't: you definitely need closed loop respirator ... the glue fumes, used regularly, is a sure long term safety issue
...try using a 2-1/2" Double Edge Wood / Paint Scraper. It works like a charm pulling off decent sized chunks of the foam and it's good to scrape down the 3/4" vinyl and the pvc to "rough it up"
Because it insures a good seal.. I'll ask you why not? Anything you can do to insure a long term seal do it.. Some of these manufacturers are skipping these steps and have leaks.. They use purple primer and not glue or glue and no clamp or purple primer and no clamps.. Skipping something that is simple and inexpensive to do makes no sense.. I am in the business of teaching people how to do long term repairs that work not do repairs that might work.. Thanks, Spa Guy
Spa Guy makes sense. You are the only one I’ve seen do it. I’m new to the hot tub plumbing methods but have been plumbing for years. Never had to deal with barb fitting and flex pipe until now. Love your vids. They are very helpful. The glue then clamp thing just stood out to me and I’m glad you could explain it. Thanks and keep up the great work
Great video thank you. But please wear at least a cheap 3M brand 6200 (1/2 mask) model (two pink 2091 disks) mask!! How do you plan to get foam dust out of your lungs? I'm sure you need a mask. Foam isn't like sawdust. Please.
So why wouldn't you put a small block under the manifold and raise it a bit so you don't have to cut and extend the hoses ? Logic dictates the more cuts and extentions opens you up for more failure does it not? Also it's way more work.
This is an instructional video for all scenarios and that will work in some but not all.. This will work in all.. When you perform this repair as illustrated you will not have any leaks..
Me Spa Guy. I live in the Boston Region. Electricity costs are very high. What highly electric efficient, cost effective 6 person spa would you buy ????
these hot tub makers should be sued for the spray foam. we understand it's because the water heater isn't 2 stage and it's to save energy. but foam board is highly accessible these days - and easier to remove. infact i'm sure they know that - so the issue is if they are intentionally causing hot tub owners cost and dangers.
You’re a hero!! Long intros to your videos are now well deserved. Thx😊
LOL.. I have shortened them..
Just replaced 2 manifolds, I drilled too far into a fitting where there was a leak, made the new manifolds put in all 14 connections, none leaked, but the flex pipes are so ridged they caused 2 leaks at the fittings. Ordered those socket savers for this time. Also a new unrelated leak at one light showed up, ordered the lense kit to fix. Always seems like a new leak is right around the corner... I will start using flex clear hose like you do... I didn't this time, just used regular manifolds with glue inside. So glad I don't have all that insulation, mine is insulated on the outside boards. Fixed a long time leak at the filter housing, it was so easy, removed the filter housing screw thing, cleaned up, used boss silicon, can't believe I let it leak for so long... Thank you for all the video's. I will be getting these conversations to clear pipe from you as needed.
I love Spa Guys' narration always calm and jovial!
I just found my hero :) I work in pool and spa repair for 10 years now. We have many thing in common while working ! Good job and nice video ~!~
I have an old 1997 Sunrise spa...still going thanks to you! great videos!!!!
Many things to observe and learn here in this video, I thank you. Mainly, of importance, the reminder to "spin it 'til you win it!"
Well that was very helpful.
This is the exact problem I am tackling.
When to prime what glue to use what knife to use and how to cut out foam insulation.
Very helpful!!!
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Love watching your videos. Learning a lot. I just changed a one speed pump and it was easy. You explain things in a very simple manner. Repair shops here in san antonio only replace parts and do not bother to fix things. That repair that you did, they would have recommended to replace the whole tub. Good job in diagnosing it.
I'd like to know what made you decide to get into the spa business. You are so good at it and it seems you really enjoy your work. All your videos on everything you do are superb!
Hey Spa Guy- I just got a tub with freeze damage- some questions for you: 1-How do I diagnose issues without powering the tub? 2- How to you power a hot tub temporarily for testing purposes? 3- What should I check first, second, third etc? thanks for the great info!
Excellent! Thank you so much. Shortly I'll be tackling a cracked manifold. What kind of foam insulation do you use to replace the stuff removed?
Great Video! I was nervous about fixing our hot tub but now I know this is something that I can do myself! 1 question, do you spray foam back onto the areas that you repaired? If so, what kind do you recommend or is that available in your store?
i bought a jacuzzi with his motor for 40 dollars here in argentina, il will gonna fix it and stall it with your videos, Thank you :)
Thanks for your videos- this helped me fix the issues I had with my viking tub but without your guidance I would have probably left it sitting on my deck or just bought a new one which I really didnt want to do. Thanks a bunch!
Hey Spa Guy,
I ordered parts from you and they were at my door in two days. Used your info and fixed my hot tub! Thanks for the help and quick shipping!
Thank You
Thank You Duke... Glad I was able to Help.. Thanks for watching.. Spa Guy
I like to do as much as I can, I had the circuit board blow, literally burned the board, had someone come out to rewire it, he was good but couldn't figure out where the connections went. Luckily I found a picture online of the board connections, fixed myself. I've done the circulating pump, heater, run pumps, circuit board, leaks, fittings, filter silicon, pretty much all of it now. 3rd hot tub I've owned. Hoping to be leak free soon, I pray...
spin it to win it your very helpful thank you
Informative video. How much would you charge to do a job like that today?
Just curious....how would you normally charge to do such extensive repair/refurbishing on a tub like this, keeping in mind you had to remove the hot tube, take it back to your shop and then reinstall it? How does an average customer afford such extensive, labor intensive repairs? I have an older HotSprings tub and have a small leak near the drain valve. But as a contractor /home service repair person myself i would have to charge minimum, about $1,000 maybe including parts or not? I really like your vids!!! Very nice work. I'm a "jiggy boo" person myself. LOL!!!!
Do you have a video or pictures with more details of your wet test bench. I have a tub to fix with several leaks and would like to no do it on the ground. Thanks for any help you can give me.
GREAT VIDEO !!! I have a tub and the 1" black pvc flex pipe has come out of the FEMALE end of a manifold ( the manifold then has 4 x 3/8" tubes that goes to jest). What is the best way to fix this connection? I was thinking of gluing in a 1" solid piece of pvc pipe (maybe 6" long) into the manifold then, using a coupler, connecting the flex pipe to the new pvc pipe . This manifold connection has leaked twice and is in an extremely difficult place to try and do a proper glue fix "flex pipe to the solid female pvc manifold". Any ides would be thankful. I like the way to do repairs !!!!
You are truly" the man" with these spas!! Always perfectly explained, and illustrated.
Do you have any tips to replace lines for a jacuzzi tub?
Can normal pvc pipe be used to plumb it or are the curved pipes required?
New to your channel not sure of this has bee asked. after those pipe repairs would you refoam those lines to help with heat retention and freezing. Great videos new to hot tubs this videos have take the mystery and "scary" out of them . You make the issues so simple for the plumbing and electrical
I would not refoam I would put 1" flat foam panels behind the side panel..
Hi.... so you are saying that this tub had freeze points while it was full of water? I just opened up my Hot Springs Landmark tub after sitting covered for ten years and found mice had chewed a large hole through the middle of my insulated cover and water had gotten in enough to fill the drain port. And I saw that the screw-on drain port cover was off indicating that the water that had gotten in it apparently froze and forced the cover off. After cleaning and filling the tub I found two leaks, one directly under that area and another about a foot or so from it near the side of the tub. So I must have freeze damage there. I measured the loss and found that I lose about an inch of water in the tub in 24 hours. Both spots underneath are a steady drip. The tub weighs in at about 877 pounds empty and it sits on a raised deck so I can observe about where the leaks seem to be coming from. When the tub was purchased and brought in there was access for heavy equipment. Now I cannot get anything large enough in there to make it an easy raise so I have to figure out how I am going to get the tub up on its side to work on it. Other than that, since I found your channel on youtube, I guess I will be visiting your store and hoping to get some pointers from you when I proceed. I plan to continue using the tub for now until the water is to be changed then I will empty it and begin work. I plan to continue to add water every day and make sure the chemical balance is within range in the mean time. Any other recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.
John Collado Did you do your repairs?
@@joyf7112 Yes, two years ago. The only damage was in the drain port on the bottom that had cracked from freeze. I had to flip the tub up and dig in to remove and replace, but everything went fine and I am using it today as I write. I replaced the insulated top since the mice had destroyed the old one. Winter is coming again and the tub is the only thing that keeps my sanity.
Very good, congratulations from México city
nice video if you like to see the back of the man....are you turning the manifoil until it stops after glueing
You don't have to turn the manifold.. When You Spin it to Win It you spin a coupler until it stops which is part of the kits, then glue new parts the rest of the way.. You only spin it until it stops when gluing new to old.. Thanks, Spa Guy
Can I use regular 3/4" clear vinyl tubing from the hardware store? also i read that pvc cement doesnt work on vinyl tube?
I use glue on vinyl..
Hi Spa-Guy, just started watching. Love your skill and videos!! Question: do you re-foam after the repairs? If you do I would like to see how you do that. Thanks, Lou
I don't unless I make a small hole in the foam.. I would in most cases cut out a 1" piece of foam board and place it in the void behind the panel that way it is insulated and if you ever have future issues you can open it right back up..
Looking for 2 manifolds and have issues finding what I need. Spoke right Viking and have the part number but can’t get the part- any suggestions?
It would be unusual for the manifold you need not to ne on my site.. Did you look there? hottubpartsofamerica.com/plumbing-and-related-parts/water-manifolds/manifolds-singles-and-related-parts/2-water-manifolds/
If the manifold sits about 3/4 of the water level, can I replace it without completely draining it?
Rats have chewed holes in several tubes and I'm having a difficult time finding a reliable repair man. I'm pretty handy and can probably repair some of them myself. I've already bought some of the glue, but what type of hose do I need to purchase for my Master spa Legacy? Both size tubing have been affected 😔
You would buy 3/8" and 3/4" vinyl tubing and couplers and clamps..
hottubpartsofamerica.com/search.php?search_query=3%2F8%22+tubing
hottubpartsofamerica.com/search.php?search_query=3%2F4%22+tubing
Hi, did you end up re-foaming your repairs, or isn't it necessary?
Hello Greg, I don;t because there is really no economical way to do it.. What I will do is cut a piece of 3/4-1" foam board and place it in the void behind where the panel would screw on and cut it to fit the inside the framing on any area that I have removed from a from.. Thanks, Spa Guy
On these manifold repairs it doesn’t look important to make the connections land in the same location on the manifold?? It’s just a water supply?? Is this correct?? Working on a Sundance camo 880 back massager rebuild and broke one of the supply on the pvc manifold. I’m pretty new at hot tub repair.
The spot of the connection does not make any difference.. The beautiful part of hot tubs is you can make them be plumbed the way you want it doesn't have to be like it was..
Thanks for the reply 😃
I found a thiner crack in the middle one of 5, 4-port manifolds. Would you recommend that I replace all 5 manifolds or just 3 of them where they all connect in middle? I also have the thick foam on all throughout spa.
April if the manifolds are not glued together and you can replace only a few I would do that but if they are glued together there is no way to replace only a few.. You have to clip the foam out with a flat screw driver and I also use a sheetrock saw.. Spa Guy
What kind of clear hose do you use?
Hello,
when you glued the flex pipe inbetween the two headers u didnt use primer? also when you put the flex pipe in between the 2 headers u didnt spin it?
Thanks for the videos.
If you watched the video and paid attention you will find that I don't purple prime or spin when gluing new to new only old to new... Thanks for watching... Spa Guy
If you payed attention. What a Dick.
I just put a new pump in mine to discover that all of the 2" line and manifolds were split. I tried to removed the foam from the tubing and the jet barbs started breaking off. Its 10 years old but has a new heater and pump. I gave up but wonder if I gave up too easily. I felt the next, inevitable step was having to replace tubing, main run, manifolds and several jets - unless I am missing something.
Hello Shaun, You can replace the manifolds themselves without replacing the tubing other than you may need to extend the tubes.. As indicated in the video.. Thanks, Spa Guy
@@SpaGuy thanks. Yeah, I meant the jet housings were breaking when I was moving the tubing. I got two of the three out yesterday and another hour from having all the broken supply line removed. That being said, seeing you extend the tubing simplified it a lot. I just started cutting them in a logical place and cleaning off foam.
Spray foam is there and alternative to it or should you spray it back on?? And where can I get some??
No good spray foam to fill back in.. I use 1" flat foam board and cut them to fit the voids behind the side panels.. Insulated well and you can still service behind them..
Why do the tub manufactures make it a pain in the ass to fix? I think the hardest part is digging the pipes out. U are very intelligent and very mechanical inclined Spa Guy.. I have a 2012 Hot Springs-Envoy that I bought brand new from a local dealer. Dealer is great, but expensive when needed for service. I have a feeling that my leak is in exactly the same place as in this video.. I can probably fix this tub but I'm scared. I never attempted it before.. Spa Guy--Do you live in Erie PA? :)
if you turn on a fan the foam would spray everwhere. but if you don't: you definitely need closed loop respirator ... the glue fumes, used regularly, is a sure long term safety issue
nice job
Man im wrestling bad with that 1/3 flex pvc . I hate it , I've done every trade there is but this is a beeeeaaach
Do you have a manifold part similar to the one that you have timestamp 15:50 in your video, but it’s a dead end
hottubpartsofamerica.com/manifold-hot-tub-spa-part-2-slp-x-end-x-6-3-4-dead-end-water-how-to-video/
You are amazing.
Thanks Ron Thanks for watching.. Spa Guy
VERY NICE......
Have you ever tryed a needle scaler to remove the foam?
I haven't don't know what that is..
...try using a 2-1/2" Double Edge Wood / Paint Scraper. It works like a charm pulling off decent sized chunks of the foam and it's good to scrape down the 3/4" vinyl and the pvc to "rough it up"
Why glue and then clamp? Isn’t the clamp enough with the barb fitting?
Because it insures a good seal.. I'll ask you why not? Anything you can do to insure a long term seal do it.. Some of these manufacturers are skipping these steps and have leaks.. They use purple primer and not glue or glue and no clamp or purple primer and no clamps.. Skipping something that is simple and inexpensive to do makes no sense.. I am in the business of teaching people how to do long term repairs that work not do repairs that might work.. Thanks, Spa Guy
Spa Guy makes sense. You are the only one I’ve seen do it. I’m new to the hot tub plumbing methods but have been plumbing for years. Never had to deal with barb fitting and flex pipe until now. Love your vids. They are very helpful. The glue then clamp thing just stood out to me and I’m glad you could explain it. Thanks and keep up the great work
Joe Thanks for watching.. Spa Guy
Great video thank you. But please wear at least a cheap 3M brand 6200 (1/2 mask) model (two pink 2091 disks) mask!! How do you plan to get foam dust out of your lungs? I'm sure you need a mask. Foam isn't like sawdust. Please.
Spin it to Win It🤟😎🤟😎
So why wouldn't you put a small block under the manifold and raise it a bit so you don't have to cut and extend the hoses ? Logic dictates the more cuts and extentions opens you up for more failure does it not? Also it's way more work.
This is an instructional video for all scenarios and that will work in some but not all.. This will work in all.. When you perform this repair as illustrated you will not have any leaks..
Agreed. Thank you
I love Elvis too
Me Spa Guy. I live in the Boston Region. Electricity costs are very high. What highly electric efficient, cost effective 6 person spa would you buy ????
I find using a spoon works best on the foam. Then u dont cut yourself
these hot tub makers should be sued for the spray foam. we understand it's because the water heater isn't 2 stage and it's to save energy. but foam board is highly accessible these days - and easier to remove. infact i'm sure they know that - so the issue is if they are intentionally causing hot tub owners cost and dangers.
? Does it Have to Be BLUE Glue.🤔
I wouldn't use anything else..
Criddly Do🤣🤣🤣🤣🤟