What it's like to CONTROL the James Webb Space Telescope | ft. Dr Libby Jones
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00:00 - Introduction to MIRI & JWST
02:11 - Interview with Dr Libby Jones
02:27 - Studying supernova 1987A with JWST
04:14 - What was commissioning JWST & MIRI like?
06:31 - The first exoplanet transit with MIRI - standout moment #1
07:48 - What it's like to be in control of JWST - standout moment #2
11:25 - What happens now images/data has been taken with JWST?
14:25 - Outro
14:46 - Brilliant
16:07- Bloopers
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👩🏽💻 I'm Dr. Becky Smethurst, an astrophysicist at the University of Oxford (Christ Church). I love making videos about science with an unnatural level of enthusiasm. I like to focus on how we know things, not just what we know. And especially, the things we still don't know. If you've ever wondered about something in space and couldn't find an answer online - you can ask me! My day job is to do research into how supermassive black holes can affect the galaxies that they live in. In particular, I look at whether the energy output from the disk of material orbiting around a growing supermassive black hole can stop a galaxy from forming stars.
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The joy I'm seeing from Dr. Jones and others on this project is so delightful. The fact that even the team operating JWST is amazed at the quality of the data leaves me in total awe. I'm looking forward to more and more of these interviews.
Wow
Long live
it is delightful, the problem is, their parents were supposed to be doing this.
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Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back.
Put up in a place where it's easy to see
the cryptic admonishment T T T.
When you feel how depressingly slowly you climb
it's well to remember that Things Take Time.
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Thank you @Dr. Becky and @Dr. Jones for trying to educate us science enthusiasts! 😊 I love the energy and enthusiasm you both show.
Thanks Tim!
Hi Becky, Jannah Boerakker told us about your channel when we visited Soneva Fushi two weeks ago. Elijah (my son) loves everything about the universe (especially black holes) and is so excited to watch your videos! 🤩
That’s amazing! I hope you had a fabulous time. I’m so jealous that you were there, I miss that place and the people so so much. Say hi to Elijah for me, I hope you and him enjoy my videos! 👍
@@nemlehetkurvopica2454 and you are a genius that knows everything about them yes? Get outta here 😂
@@nemlehetkurvopica2454 can you elaborate please?
@@nemlehetkurvopica2454 Do you know what a Ph.D. is?
Dr B. Massive respect to you for delaying this video. And thank you for releasing it.
Thanks Chris, much appreciated
There is little I enjoy more than watching nerds get excited about the thing they're nerdy about. I understand maybe 70% of what you were talking about, but your joy and giddiness was so palpable I was just smiling for the entire video.
Haha thanks Sabine!
You young whipper snappers make us retired grandpas very proud of the amazing accomplishments you are producing in our lifetime! Thank you Dr. Becky and Dr. Jones!
Great video. Delaying its release was a nice gesture. In 1974, I saw HRH Prince Charles open the Anglo-Australian Telescope. He spoke about the value that astronomy brings to humanity. I hope as King, his appreciation of this field continues. That's why astronomy needs people like you Dr B. Well done.
What a pleasant change from all the cynicism and depression among people around the world. I forgot that people can feel so jazzed in a sustained way. Thanks gals - for all you're doing.
Can i say as an ivoirien i love your vibrant education. I would like one day to set a free telescope in a village in Africa for them to realise what the young boys and girls can see. Thank you very much for your education. You do not realise truly what impact you have yet for years to come. Thank you.
I love the way you use your channel to display the fantastic emotional reactions of scientists bathing in a waterfall of never seen before data. The wonder and delight. I'm sure you know that's why you are so successful - the wonder and joy in your work that you share with all of us. Makes me feel like I'm there and sharing your feelings.
Priceless. And I suppose this sharing scientists feelings moment to moment is entirely new in the world. Thank You.
One of the true joys of working in this field is that astronomical information has neither financial nor military value. As a result (in general) it leads to a collaborative mindset which is truly liberating.
Dr. Libby's excitement for the new discoveries is over the moon! I'm glad to see someone else besides our dear Dr. Becky to show so much enthusiasm over such great heretofore unknown data coming in, so new that there aren't yet the tools to decipher it.
Thanks, Dr. Becky. Now I also picture them controlling the telescope with a joystick AND a bit of a lag due to the distance. 🙈
Anyway. Very interesting interview. As a software engineer I'd really like to know more about all the tools that helps making this project possible. How exciting it must have been to see this thing turn on and work as intended (and even better as it seems)
Good point about the lag due to the distance -- if nothing else, that would kill using a joystick to control the telescope unless you were in a nearby space station (which would keep trying to drift away from the telescope).
You might consider starting by reading the commissioning report, and look up the pipelines, etc they mention. I didn't dig into it but it sounds like at least some of it might be available without any special permission.
I just saw Jupiter, the Moon and just in between both and a hand above it was Neptune. Rosella and I had a moment of excitement for what we did.
I mention this because these two Women along with thousands across the World do this all year and are Fantastic Humans.
Thank you. I am jealous of how smart you both are and being able to do this for a living.
Have a GREAT Weekend.
More of this, it's fantastic to hear it from the people doing the science. Please share more stuff like this.
Yes more interviews!
More more more! Love to hear the experiences of the JWST crew. More please.
Big shout out to Dr. Jones. Her enthusiasm is contagious. As is yours, Dr. Becky. I'm very excited for the future of the JWST.
Thank you both so much for doing this. This is something I've always wondered. What does it look like to control the JWST or Hubbel? I think I even asked the question in a comment of another video. This was so cool to learn about. Thanks Dr. Becky and Dr. Jones!
(I wonder how many Indiana Jones jokes she has to put up with.)
I love how this gives us an inside look, so to speak, of the process involved in controlling a telescope. Some of the same process (data review and interpretation, communications across the board, looking at several screens, etc.) is also involved in the Artemis 1 launch, or any launch and control of a rocket. Not many people realize it. With the scrubbed 1st launch of it, people were blasting Bill Nelson for saying to get rest and figure things out the next day, since everyone was tired. It's exhausting! Not just physically, but mentally. You have the hopeful expectation that everything will go according to plan, but the knowledge that something, somewhere, won't. And what is it? Don't know. Just hope it's something that can be worked around.
I'm loving your series of interviews. It is fascinating, thank you for your science outreach. Pro as always. Thank you Dr. B.
Love your videos, Becky. It's great to listen to/watch someone explain these concepts who (a) knows what she's talking about, and, (b) is able to get it across to us ignorant-but-interested gawpers! Keep 'em coming, please.
Another great video Dr Becky! The rift between the public's trust and the scientific establishment seems to have been growing the past few decades. You are such a gifted science communicator, and that is exactly what it needed to help repair that rift. I especially appreciate on your channel that it isn't just about you and your work or your perspective, but that you also spotlight other scientists and what they are doing. It is so humbling and inspiring to see all these people who just seem like ordinary folks talking about this incredibly advanced research they are doing. Because at the end of the day, science is done by "everyday people", and it's easy to forget that. All that is needed for humanity to progress is for everyday people to work together, that is to me one of the most important lessons of science and interviews like this capture that so well.
Absolutely fascinating episode! Thank you so much for sharing. I loved it.
Seeing people passionate about things they care about is one of the small joys of life. It’s incredible to see and inspires me to jump more into my field and keep putting in effort towards learning more and more.
The intelligence and enthusiasm demonstrated by Dr Becky and Dr Libby gives me hope for the future of the human race.
I'm in my 50s and I've lived through a lot of exciting science developments but the JWST is right up there as one of the most amazing and impressive feats of humanity and the dedication and thoughfulness of people like Dr Becky and Dr Libby are a huge part of the project's astonishing success.
Good luck Dr Libby with your research!
That's some of the most pure elation of someone's work that I've seen in a video.
So, there's s fourth dimension to these images too that is rarely mentioned, but you both mentioned it here: Time!
Things evolve over time - and even in our livespan, even over a few years, changes can be seen.
Wow, it's so easy, but I'm blown away even by that aspect alone...
Many thanks to you both for this interview!
And many thanks for all these stories... seeing the first planetary atmosphere's transit in front of it's star (the data of it, the detailed spectrum)... having the telescope at the controls of your finger tips, with the commands...
... like a kid in the candy store with all the data and the possibilities to write papers about it...
Wow, I got goosebumps hearing these stories! Congratulations!
Dr Becky, your editing cut on this vid were very, very good! And the enthusiasm level was off the charts!
I very much enjoyed listening to the conversation between the two of you. More like this would be great
Thank you so much for this Dr Becky! I was super curious about what the process was like and what stage it was in, so this was both useful and super super exciting!! I would love to hear u talk to Dr Jones or any other jwst team members! This stuff is amazing
Dr Becky keep those JWST news coming our way,Yay!
Thank you Dr. Becky, I was actually very curious about finding out this exactly very thing. I would like more, please. Also, there is so much fake information in regards to the Webb telescope, would you please take the time and tackle that in a future vlog?
Yeah, for some reason the Webb publicity campaigns are being bombarded with bunk. The 'official' JWST Facebook page is a prime example, and even NASA aren't immune with their confusing 'sounds of space' uploads on their RUclips channel.
It's like they've got a fourteen year old in charge. Was that what you're referring to?
@@subliminalvibes Sure, one example of so many vids out there. Quite a bunch of them about Space "education" with such rubbish they may very well belong to the click baity categories rather than legit quality stuff we're looking for.
@@rembora those channels are insufferable and absolutely ARE clickbait.
Really fantastic interview, dr. Becky! 😃
Thanks a bunch!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
The nerdy joy in this video is really amazing! I look forward to seeing the full interview!
Superb video and wonderful to see Libby's reactions to the data shes getting..
Both smiling ear to ear the entire interview. Priceless!
Enjoy listening to the nitty gritty of how things are done. Love the interviews please do more.
Great video! Also, just picked up your audiobook, Dr. Becky! I'm excited to start it in the next couple of days!
Loving all of your videos but would love more like this!
It’s all so exciting! 🙊
Excellent Insight Dr Becky, lots of great information. Thank You !!!
great video!!! I loved the bloopers you made me smile thank you🙂
Just amazing to hear about the science and to see the enthusiasm you both have for JWST and the new things it will reveal.
Excellent interview, keep them coming
Lovely nerdy point of view, love it !!
Dr Becky! interesting to hear a bit of what it took to get those amazing photos. i've never really realized the controllers were virtually blind to the actual visuals. so much time and effort only to wait......til, finally, the images emerge from the raw data.
also, thank God for editing, eh, Doc? actually, i love the bloopers. kinda shows you're truly human😃🙃👍
Thanks so much for posting this interview with Libby Jones because it gives much insight into this amazing telescope. I also appreciate how down to earth you both are and unpretentious and just excited to share the space science that you follow. 😁👍👍🙏
How exciting to have colleagues you can talk to who are part of the JWST team. Sciences is the best! Thanks for sharing your interviews.
It’s delightful to hear from someone for whom the process is still exciting.
Thank you Dr Becky, loved your video presentation and the chat with Dr Libby Jones. I also loved your Bloopers, not because you get things wrong, but you show we are all human and we make mistakes, but we also learn by them to make better presentations as we progress in making videos or presentations. I wonder if we lesser mortals will ever be able to get raw footage from JWST, I know we are well down the food chain for access to anything. Best regards, Chris.
16:50 Cuz you're STILL one of us, Dr. Becky. Finding the hilarity of Nerdom.
Hey Dr. Becky - Thanks so much for the absolutely fascinating video!
I watched daily from the day of liftoff (yes I watched your awesome liftoff reaction video too! It was great!), all through the tense unfolding and then months of commissioning keeping tabs on JWST on the NASA website. I watched your awesome video when they unveiled the 5 awesome "first images".. Anyway, all of that... It's been a really great ride!
- All that said, it was excellent seeing Dr. Libby Jones talk all about her experiences during the commissioning and calibration time, and seeing how excited she was about the awesome detail and quality of the science and the images. So good seeing that!
So, YES it would be great seeing and hearing from other great science and technical people involved with JWST. Also too, it's great hearing from the "lower-decks" (so to speak) folks who work behind the scenes working on the hardware and engineering, also the communications up/down from the telescope and maybe some of the engineers who maintain the code and the operating system of the telescope and stuff.. As an Engineer for my working life spent mainly working on data networks and data communications infrastructure I'm always very interested in all of that stuff..
Anyway - Thanks again for a really great video! Nicely done!
The various instruments are described in more detail (including engineering) in other YT videos and the comments sections of those can also fill in some of the blanks.
FYI, the "lower decks" are the entire foundation of the success of this project. Unless you have talented, dedicated engineers nothing gets built. Astronomers dream - engineers accomplish. Here endeth the rant... (o:
Awesome work!!
Your enthusiasm is overwhelming :D
Love this! Thank you.
You were just discussed on a news channel I watch regarding you book and discussion of black holes, congratulations
This episode is a lot of fun! I dont understand all of it, but I enjoyed your excitement! I’m happy if you guys are happy!!!
Seeing people this happy and excited about science makes me feel good.
I like the DR. PHD! certificate in the background. Subtle. Classy.
That's really cool! No doubt your next book will cover JWST's findings in detail, in a few years time. Just finished your book yesterday, I laughed at the end when you said about how long it was - it could easily have been 50% longer without being too long, I was sad it ended so quickly. Really well written, and at the perfect level for us non-experts to understand.
Go Libby! Great stuff!
Hello Becky, you truly have totally awesome videos. Have two of your books on Audible (New one included) . Thank you so very much. You are the Best!!! Keep up these videos!!!
You are an excellent interviewer as well as a great science communicator. Hi from Kentucky!
I love how Dr. Jones keeps talking to the Dr. Becky image on her screen rather than the camera. You see her continually trying to adjust but the impulse to talk to the face you see in front of you is too strong. It's like when I go to a sporting event with a big scoreboard screen and I have trouble watching the play on the field, ice or whatever because I keep getting drawn back to the scoreboard. I was actually at a concert on Saturday and the same thing happened there. LOL
Great interview 👍
Simply love all the "wao" moments Dr Libby has had so far, many more to come, this is science at its best 🍻
YOU ARE AMAZING .THANK YOU!
I love the enthusiasm seen here!
I like seeing more of these interview type videos.
What a privilege to get that insight into personal excitement for the jwst science! Thank you!
I was browsing a bookstore and found your book! All the way over here, in my city of Perth, Western Australia.
Dr. Becky has such well placed mindfulness I am enthused to see more of her and what she does soon as she can give it. 🙃😇
JWST JWST JWST!!! Haha. Excellent video. I love hearing first-hand insight on how it works :)
Thanks ~ fascinating report. 👍
Thanks Dr.Becky keep looking up ✨. Martin from the Emerald Isle 👍☘️
Hi Becky. I see your book in the background. A week or two ago I was at NYAA StarFest 2022, here in Ontario. I got to listen to Dr Ian Shelton's lecture about the 50th anniversary of Dr Tom Bolton's proof that Cygnus X-1 was a black hole! The Dr Shelton of SN 1987A fame. Nerds rule!!! If you ever come to Canada you have to attend StarFest! One of the top star parties in the world!
Really interesting as to the actual interfacing of the hardware and who and what controls it all.
The editing on the coverage felt a bit too tight though. It felt like as soon as a question was finished or an answer was given it was RIGHT onto the next thing without a beat. It didn't take away the awesomeness of the video. It would be quite hard to do that. Thank you for doing this interview!
I think she was just trying to keep it down below 20 mins. I suspect that there is a sweet spot between 15 and 25 mins that the algorhythm likes to promote which is why many many videos are around that length. She is also going to post the unedited video that isnt to appease the SEO gods.
RIP Her Majesty. As Scott Manley pointed out, all of orbital space flight happened under the 70 years that she's been Queen. Let's hope the next 70 years will have just as many advancements in science. Long live the King.
0:11 Oh my GOSH !
I kind of like "toasty seven kelvin" since it's after all warmer than the background radiation of the universe.
Wow, really inspiring!
For those of us not as well versed as these two ladies I must say I believe I just watched 2 kids in a candy store!
It sounds like there will be more data than the current scientist can even imagine and some of it will require a learning curve.
Yes, the floodgates are opening. It is fascinating to me that the unexpectedly fine performance of JWST is setting real challenges in data analysis and interpretation.
This makes me imagine maybe once they were 'kids in candy stores' buying astronomical sweets like Mars, Galaxy, Milky Way and Starbursts (and any others you can think of) and getting inspired to become astronomers and astrophysicists!
Not 'flying saucers'...! I didn't like the look of those polystyrene things.
If there was a sweet called a black hole, perhaps there were black polo mints once?
I don't remember!
More seriously yes there is so much data, but maybe computers can help them sift through it all to find the most interesting things... and enough clever people to understand them (the processed images and graphs) and explain them to the rest of us space fans on RUclips.
PS if there's a JWST sweetie maybe it will be 'Jelly with strawberry toffee' or something like that?!
A common saying that I really like, and that really captures the adventurist spirit of scientific research, is that the most exciting part of a new scientific equipment coming online is the unexpected discoveries, because you don't even know the questions you'll want to have answered until you see that new data and start exploring it.
@@kindlin In this regard, we can expect MIRI to be the real 'discovery engine' because it's applying cutting-edge technology in a wavelength region that is effectively unexplored territory. Can't wait...
@@kumasenlac5504 Great point. In general, JWST is going to be a scientific treasure trove.
Two Ph.Ds with the glee of a 5 year-old on Christmas morning. Love it.
No, the glee of TWO 5-yr-olds! 🙂 Nice to see.
"A huge 'thank you' . . . " to you both !
6:23 The fact that Dr. Jones acknowledged even the cleaning staff makes this interview give me goosebumps.
150000 people worked 100 000 000 hours in every imaginable way - every little helps...
Loving the bloopers at the end. What surprise will JWST shows us in the next few years?
Thank you Dr. Jones
Isn't that what Belloq said to Indy in "Raiders" when he took the gold idol?
@@txmike1945 Yes he did. I stole that line.
Thank you Becky 👍
Dr. Becky Thank you for your new book. I just spent my Saturday listening to your absolutely delightful read. Fascinating and funny. I am a nonscientist and even I understood what you presented.
Dr Jones definitely deserves a JWST T -Shirt :)
Wow, I'm really excited to see JWST images of 1987A.
Fascinating!
Actually cracked up at your Mario-fantasy explanation lol Also, excellent Science
I like the topic and the outfit!
The amount of data and new science is going to be fantastic! Kudos to Libby for being part of the JWST team. 👏🏻
Look forward to the whole interview! 👍🏻
P.s. Mario kart for the win! 😉😂
The possibility of seeing a main sequence star actually turn on, is stunning... JWST will likely be even more revolutionary than Hubble when we look back in 100 years.
That is what I thought I heard her say! Wow!
Can someone explain the "main sequence turned on" comments regarding resolution? I was unable to follow that part 🤔
PS, watching past vids, I loved the what does a astrophysicist during the work day, that was so cool. Dr. Becky, is OXFORD Astrophysics, did they get any JWST time? Did you get your time or did you request time as a team.
so it's 5 light seconds out: do you use the DSN for com? What kind of fault protection is there, so you don't send a set of commands that damage it? Back when I was on deep space stuff, it took a month to turn an observation into a command sequence that then passes a flight simulator that then passes a hardware in-the-loop flight sim, that then got securely sent to the DSN which then got sent then off to an S/C at a gas giant. It was a very formal process.
I love watching your videos. I heard something a while back that has been curious to me if it could be possible. It is said that there is a theory that Mercury could have been a satellite to Venus in the distant past. Is there anyone actually working to try to confirm this that you know of? I think it would be an interesting view into a possibility of what our own satellite might do in the future once it reaches a point that the gravity between the Earth and Moon will no longer matter.