Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Spider-Man: Across The Spider Verse

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  • @Th3Birdman
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    • @JJ_R
      @JJ_R 8 месяцев назад +13

      Happy Easter! 🎄🎁🎅

    • @glitchhoffe1293
      @glitchhoffe1293 8 месяцев назад +6

      Happy holidays to you 2

    • @123RADIOactive
      @123RADIOactive 8 месяцев назад +4

      Merry Christmas buddy 😅

    • @Flareguy
      @Flareguy 8 месяцев назад +6

      Happy st Patrick’s day

    • @TheLowlyyouarenice
      @TheLowlyyouarenice 8 месяцев назад +3

      Happy (insert random holiday here!)

  • @Firethorn.gaming
    @Firethorn.gaming 8 месяцев назад +1307

    With the "why are both his uncle and dad supposed to die?" thing, it's quite obvious. Aaron was the close family member dying canon event
    , and his dad dying is a police captain dies canon event

    • @andrewdunn8778
      @andrewdunn8778 8 месяцев назад +125

      Yep Aaron is Uncle Ben and his dad is Captain Stacy

    • @barisbal7782
      @barisbal7782 8 месяцев назад +114

      that... also there is no such rule that says one tragedy per life.

    • @kxngkxng
      @kxngkxng 8 месяцев назад +96

      and that was literally explained IN THAT SCENE. Like why did he sin that when they explained it to him????

    • @mackenziehunter4593
      @mackenziehunter4593 8 месяцев назад +43

      @@kxngkxng Because he's Jeremy and he doesn't know shit about movies.

    • @tomatosoup1304
      @tomatosoup1304 8 месяцев назад +8

      Yeah, Spider-man is always having people die around him

  • @darththeo
    @darththeo 8 месяцев назад +1477

    The fact that CinemaSins writers didn't pick up that the entire point of this story is to have us question whether or not the canon events need to happen is sad. Like that's the point, we know Gwen knows her father is supposed to die and at the end because he leaves the force that future now won't happen. There is another reason why the universes are destroyed. Like seriously, I do not get how CinemaSins and those people who write the sins fail to pick up something so obvious in the movie.

    • @ohilevoeauca789
      @ohilevoeauca789 8 месяцев назад +163

      All we're shown is ONE universe being destroyed, and we only know that Miguel is the one who thinks breaking a "canon" did it. He's not even a "canon" Spider-man by his own rules. He wasn't bit by a radioactive spider, he doesn't have a Gwen, he doesn't have a police captain, he doesn't even have a dead uncle. HE is the outsider, not Miles.

    • @darththeo
      @darththeo 8 месяцев назад +94

      @@ohilevoeauca789 Yeah, there is tons of evidence to support the idea that the required "canon" isn't what maintains the universes and that it is just what Miguel thinks does. He is responding out of grief for the harm he feels he caused and wishes to prevent further harm.
      But, the fact CinemaSins writers didn't pick up the extremely obvious hints is sad. Like it isn't even neon sign pointing to it level of hints, it is more obvious than that.

    • @christopherbowers7236
      @christopherbowers7236 8 месяцев назад +54

      yeah by thre end of the movie we basically know that miguel is incorrect, just HOW incorrect we dont know. but his assumptions and the actions he takes based on them are proven wrong.

    • @finnsword8286
      @finnsword8286 8 месяцев назад +51

      Mayday is another clear example of why Miguel is wrong. She wouldn't exist if not for Peter B's experience with Miles. Which....according to Miguel shouldn't have happened. So, Peter B's world should have been destroyed because he wasn't SUPPOSED to have a daughter. And yet it's going fine. Gwen's world is still fine. The movie so clearly shows that Miguel is wrong.

    • @matth2283
      @matth2283 8 месяцев назад +21

      yeah, we see 2 universes being destroyed. 1 that Miguel went to to be with his fake daughter and the other that Spot went to. They look nowhere similar to how they are being destroyed.
      Miguel's was a wall of force deleting everything, while the one Spot goes to end up with something akin to a blackhole, which I my opinion is clearly tied to Spot

  • @dakotaskyes
    @dakotaskyes 8 месяцев назад +1318

    Everyone says where's Birdman but never how's Birdman.

    • @MarvMay
      @MarvMay 8 месяцев назад +27

      So, we're just gonna skip over when and what to go directly to the drax joke?

    • @jhonyjoestar1302
      @jhonyjoestar1302 8 месяцев назад +10

      Or who's birdman

    • @AttemptedVoices
      @AttemptedVoices 8 месяцев назад +15

      I'll do you one better, WHO''S Birdman?
      I'll do YOU one better, WHY'S Birdman?

    • @Ohmydayz9
      @Ohmydayz9 8 месяцев назад

      yes

    • @Mr_universal286
      @Mr_universal286 8 месяцев назад +3

      What’s birdman?

  • @ApexGale
    @ApexGale 8 месяцев назад +751

    Captain Stacy isn't mad because Peter was Gwen's friend. He was mad because Peter was like a son to him. Literally in the span of the opening we see that their families were close enough to have dinner together - Gwen, her father, Peter, May, and Ben are all giving grace around the table. And the fact that he is so upset over Peter's death that he tries to arrest Gwen NOT for what happened in the museum, but for his death, shows that. It's called subtext.
    Also, real Spidey heads know that Spider-Man is notorious for being difficult to work with. He has worked alone so often that he tends to actually get in the way of teamwork - as shown during his collab with the Fantastic 4. So having hundreds of solo fliers trying to chase one guy naturally made it *easier* for him to escape, because they were constantly getting in each other's way. Note that when the herd is thinned out, Miles actually *is* struggling to escape. When it's just him and Miguel, Miguel has him on the ropes constantly.

  • @josiahtheawkward6008
    @josiahtheawkward6008 8 месяцев назад +1147

    Miles Morales is Spider-Man. I dressed up as him at my job because I look a lot like him. And every child who recognized me screamed “IT’S SPIDER-MAN!” not “Miles Morales”. I can’t believe there are some adults that don’t understand a simple concept that even kids understand clearly.
    Edit: Hell, even some adults called me Spider-Man. That’s how I know the people online are doing this shit for attention.

    • @gwit4051
      @gwit4051 8 месяцев назад +179

      fr it's like saying that wally west and barry allen aren't the flash. i swear some people do not grasp the idea of shared mantles. or maybe they do and just single out miles for reasons they'd probably deny.

    • @TheKueiJin
      @TheKueiJin 8 месяцев назад +29

      ​@@gwit4051while i agree, it does sometimes create issues that i'd wish were better shed light upon. I.E. OG Teen Titans Robin, and who he actually he is, because he as Robin had a thing with Star Fire, which was beautiful. And Damien Robin had a thing with Raven.

    • @jbcatz5
      @jbcatz5 8 месяцев назад +35

      Or how Westley inherited the title of Dread Pirate Roberts in Princess Bride, passing it on to Inigo Montoya at the end of the film. In superhero narratives legacy characters have been a thing for decades, look how many Earth born Green Lanterns there are or how many people have worn the cowl as Batman. Batman has had multiple Robins.

    • @olela6018
      @olela6018 8 месяцев назад +5

      what are you guys talking about? the internet virgin adults don't think miles is spider-man..?

    • @paulheap1982
      @paulheap1982 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@olela6018no, they absolutely do.

  • @tanaka173
    @tanaka173 8 месяцев назад +935

    25:15 The thing is even without cultural context it still works. Moments before this Miguel had crashed through the window acting so aggressively that two other spiders were telling him to take a breath. It doesn't take much in that scenario to think 'I shouldn't stop him from going home.'

    • @ljeans531
      @ljeans531 8 месяцев назад +134

      Spider-byte in that scene is also one of the spider people at the end of the movie to join up with Gwen. She saw something in Miles and wanted to give him a chance. And just like Gwen many in the spider society may not totally agree with what 2099 is doing. They may be unsure of how to approach ending the universe. Its a difficult decision to make tbh.

    • @usarhabilidade2697
      @usarhabilidade2697 8 месяцев назад +106

      Yeah, seeing 2099 face while trying to break miles scape route, my first thought would be also something like:
      "My dude, he's gonna kill the kid!"

    • @llama6394
      @llama6394 8 месяцев назад +23

      It's literally just because she can see that the "multiverse elite squad" thing is bad

    • @Rozzachu
      @Rozzachu 8 месяцев назад +36

      I didn't realise this cultural context existed, I read it as Spider-Byte was inspired by Miles' mission and hesitated to reboot the Go Home Machine because she believed in him

    • @artsycandy9183
      @artsycandy9183 8 месяцев назад +51

      Yeah as a person who was supposed to understand the cultultural context, it wasn't my first thought regarding her specifically. I feel like Miles' plight is reasonable enough to have people on his side without having interracted with him a lot. It seems like most spider people follow Miguel reluctantly, using his spider society as a way to feel community and connection. Their cultural connection is another good interpretation and it can be both.

  • @Mrawesome-of1ze
    @Mrawesome-of1ze 8 месяцев назад +3033

    Idk how he can even sin this movie lol

    • @gggaribaldi1
      @gggaribaldi1 8 месяцев назад +167

      For 20 minutes at that...smh

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад +162

      Just like life CinemaSins finds a way
      Even if it's a stupid one

    • @aDragonsTail
      @aDragonsTail 8 месяцев назад +141

      By telling corny jokes and nitpicking

    • @Sillge0
      @Sillge0 8 месяцев назад +20

      how much money do you think he got for the video

    • @Eleyrica
      @Eleyrica 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@Sillge0Count his sheeps then you'll know lol

  • @MichaelDavis2754
    @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад +1410

    I gotta say this is definitely one of your most creative EWW videos
    The different numbers on a sin counter being references to the different dimensions each Spider-Man is from
    Even some comic references
    The M in CinemaSins having the spider verse style colors
    The different Birdmen from alternate dimensions sinning Jeremy
    10/10 video Birdman 👏👏👏👏👏👏

    • @LFPman
      @LFPman 8 месяцев назад +23

      I know Birdman’s very familiar with the Spiderman franchise WAAAAY outside of just the MCU, but that’s probably why he referenced each dimensional spiderman

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад +16

      @@LFPman yeah I also know that as well I'm just pointing out how great it is that he references the comics
      It even ties into his main argument against CinemaSins "the books do matter"

  • @keimasilver
    @keimasilver 8 месяцев назад +519

    To add to the bit where Jeremy pretends he's never heard of hammerspace before and tries to sarcastically say the heroes won't use it, they already did. Spider-Ham used it in the last movie and even gave Miles his hammer while saying "it'll fit in your pocket". So Jeremy feigns ignorance.

    • @ShazeemKhan
      @ShazeemKhan 8 месяцев назад +4

      Where does it leave Peter? Not being a dick, genuinely curious

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 8 месяцев назад +26

      I'm so excited movie studios have openly called out CinemaSins and won't acknowledge them

    • @matth2283
      @matth2283 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@Chuck_EL I'd be even more excited if the openly ridiculed them for their media illiteracy

  • @Sydberry
    @Sydberry 8 месяцев назад +716

    It's frustrating how many of CinemaSins' sins are answered by the movie that he's apparently watched to make his video! He questions too many things that the movie answers

    • @UltimateDespairado
      @UltimateDespairado 8 месяцев назад +63

      Cinemasins logic:
      *character explains or does something in a clear and understandable way
      Cinemasins: What the -- just happened?!

    • @matth2283
      @matth2283 8 месяцев назад +23

      Watching recent Cinemasins content just makes my brain rot. I feel like he just sins stuff to rage bait and boost his video by people raging in the comments

    • @jse_illustrations
      @jse_illustrations 8 месяцев назад +16

      movie: makes sense
      cinemasins: grrrr i don't like that😡😡

    • @MeemahSN
      @MeemahSN 8 месяцев назад +6

      @chaosleviatho879 Then he's succeeded at making himself look like a complete idiot.

  • @Chance57
    @Chance57 8 месяцев назад +428

    Shameik Moore's line delivery as Miles is too fucking good. That last part where he talks to "his" Mom was crazy.

    • @Little1Cave
      @Little1Cave 8 месяцев назад +43

      Him and Hailee Steinfeld have been up for all kinds of voice-acting awards for this movie, and goddamn do they both deserve them. ❤️❤️

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад +24

      His acting throughout the entire Train Chase scene is probably my favorite
      The fear and anger of being chased/pinned down with nowhere to go by Miguel
      The betrayal of when he finds out Gwen and Peter knew about his dad's fate
      He Hailee and Oscar Issac deserve awards in my opinion

    • @one-onessadhalf3393
      @one-onessadhalf3393 8 месяцев назад +1

      My personal favorite was when he had his talk with Peter when he was escaping

  • @robynhood3983
    @robynhood3983 8 месяцев назад +577

    6:33 hammerspace was also alluded to in ITSV, tho indirectly.
    Spider ham give miles a fairly sizable wooden mallet and says (paraphrasing) "you can keep it in your pocket". the indirectness definitely flew over CinemaSIns' writers' heads.

    • @SceneWins
      @SceneWins 8 месяцев назад +54

      Doesn’t he also pull it out of nowhere? I didn’t know it was was called “hammer space” but still figured it out

    • @Emmanuel-ig5iy
      @Emmanuel-ig5iy 8 месяцев назад +10

      I think the first thing he pulled out was a hammer too

    • @3173_Delta
      @3173_Delta 8 месяцев назад +13

      I wonder if he *was* able to keep it
      Since the scene with the footnote implied hammerspace is an ability of the character, not the item
      Meaning it's spider-ham who "can keep" the mallet in his pocket, not the mallet that "can be kept" in a pocket

    • @bigiron1311
      @bigiron1311 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@3173_DeltaI dunno, but it was a really cartoonish looking hammer so it might be a property of the world? Like when you watch a cartoon and some object is in a different style to the background so you know it’s about to be moved? The hammer space property isn’t character specific, it’s world specific. So any object from that world has that property? Like the colour on the Rubik’s cube in noirs world? His world doesn’t have colour, but the object from a world with colour does. So the hammer, being from a world with hammer space has it? I think? Yeah I’m probably right.

    • @jaydrianpieters7718
      @jaydrianpieters7718 8 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@bigiron1311I HOPE you're right,I want miles to bonk Spot on the head with that cartoon hammer and then spider-ham saying "hey,he kept it in his pocket!"
      Greatest callback ever!

  • @isaboll1
    @isaboll1 8 месяцев назад +250

    Jeremy questioning why Mile's dad is expected to die just continues to show his lack of paying attention. That came as soon as Miguel mentioned the "police captain" cannon even, meaning Mile's dad is equivalent to Captain Stacy dying, rather than the Uncle Ben situation which was fulfilled by Uncle Aaron dying

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 8 месяцев назад +10

      Remember when Jeremy really said Spiderman using web cartridges wasn't in the comics then when he was called out he blamed his writers?

    • @bradwhite5884
      @bradwhite5884 8 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@Chuck_EL His writers aka him, yet he treats himself and the writers as separate entities and yet they are the same person, lol

  • @AychSkwaird
    @AychSkwaird 8 месяцев назад +244

    Birdman trying to say Earth-1999999 is the modern version of sisyphus's boulder

  • @spinylizardz
    @spinylizardz 8 месяцев назад +230

    Sometimes I'm convinced your intro disclaimers are just there to prevent getting attacked by Cinemasins fans because 12:33 was way too brutal to be just poking fun LMAO 💀

    • @blackmage665
      @blackmage665 8 месяцев назад +26

      That is what it is, in one sense. it serves multiple purposes if you think on it.

    • @Yumi_Jay
      @Yumi_Jay 8 месяцев назад +13

      There are some sins that is bad and some sins that good/funny. It depends. Early CS good. Current CS meh.

    • @mrcheesemunch
      @mrcheesemunch 8 месяцев назад +32

      I can still never tell if it's some playful ribbing or if he does actually hate them because damn the amount of hospital visits from some of the burns....

  • @xxbanditoxxdito6318
    @xxbanditoxxdito6318 8 месяцев назад +245

    That joke about not answering your wife's phone was so true lmao 😂

  • @thepip3599
    @thepip3599 8 месяцев назад +173

    Another explanation for how Miles was able to escape from so many other spider people is that his spidey sense helped him sense what they were going to do since they were trying to capture him and were thus a threat, but their spidey senses didn’t help them sense what he was going to do since he was just trying to run away from them and thus wasn’t a threat. I’m pretty sure that spidey sense is somehow able to detect the abstract concept of a threat.

    • @IchiGurou
      @IchiGurou 8 месяцев назад +47

      This also probably plays in to how Peter B caught him immediately since he wasn't actively going at him (if you noticed he was able to immediately snag Miles)

    • @chunkymonkey7983
      @chunkymonkey7983 8 месяцев назад +18

      Plus, the only one that would really see miles escaping as a threat would be Miguel, but he doesn't have spider sense.

  • @ratbaby3107
    @ratbaby3107 8 месяцев назад +29

    "how could we forget his family loves him when the movie has been beating us over the head with feelings and parents?"
    Uh, idk, maybe the fact that up until now most of those feelings have been things like "disappointment" and "frustration" as miles misses important events and the like, and can't explain why? And this moment is the touching resolution of that as his mom tells him that no matter how frustrated they are with him, he's still loved?

  • @cringeboy8864
    @cringeboy8864 8 месяцев назад +72

    Universe 🎼 is the most underrated universe. Thanks for showing us the Birdman from that universe

    • @eatatjoes6751
      @eatatjoes6751 8 месяцев назад +2

      I wonder if that Birdman always talks like he’s computer singing.

  • @SpiderMan13447
    @SpiderMan13447 8 месяцев назад +341

    Imagine sinning this movie and the previous one. These movies were both awesome, and had great animation and great writing.
    Edit: Thanks for all the likes I will not laser u!

    • @magicjohnson5733
      @magicjohnson5733 8 месяцев назад +9

      The animation made it really difficult to watch this movie. For me at least, it hurt my eyes lmao

    • @Eleyrica
      @Eleyrica 8 месяцев назад +30

      @@magicjohnson5733 Boy you really posted 3 comments to just hate on the movie 💀💀

    • @SpiderMan13447
      @SpiderMan13447 8 месяцев назад +7

      @@magicjohnson5733 well, I could kind of see that as the animation in this movie it’s kinda all over the place

    • @danavixen6274
      @danavixen6274 8 месяцев назад +2

      DEFINITELY an Oscar worthy animated EPIC! ❤🕷️

    • @Dragonflee100
      @Dragonflee100 8 месяцев назад

      @@magicjohnson5733you need a doctor

  • @Mikol_Billy
    @Mikol_Billy 8 месяцев назад +133

    Wow birdman straight up just made me switch the perspective with Gwen’s dad still insisting to arrest her with the “I don’t like the idea of cops letting their relatives get away with crimes”
    Like that’s half the reason we don’t usually like cops cuz they feel they and their family is above the law a lot
    Neat

  • @3s_muycar0
    @3s_muycar0 8 месяцев назад +63

    It’s still so crazy how so many British actors can mimick an American accent well, I didn’t know Daniel Kaluuya is British 😭

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 8 месяцев назад +21

      Yup Idris Elba, John Boyega , Kate Beckinsale, Michael Sheen and Christian Bale all do great American accents
      Bale even did all of his batman interviews in his Bruce Wayne voice

  • @kenedwards3408
    @kenedwards3408 8 месяцев назад +60

    I think the 616/199999 thing is one of Paradoxes of hubris. I think every universe refers to itself as 616 initially. Then, when they're opened up to the real extra dimensional beings they give them their real designation

    • @joshuasgameplays9850
      @joshuasgameplays9850 8 месяцев назад +12

      If that's the case, shouldn't they all internally refer to themselves as Earth-1? what's so special about the number 616?

    • @PhantomMiria22
      @PhantomMiria22 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@joshuasgameplays9850 they probably guess if we found the multiverse someone else probably already did so before them.

    • @barisbal7782
      @barisbal7782 8 месяцев назад +19

      it was more of a ''books named the prominent universe as 616 and for that reason we named our prominent universe after it'' type of situation.
      kind of like how there are 2 gwens(gwen of this movie and gwen of comic book) and both of their universes designated as earth-65. because earth-65 now considered as the universe that is prominent with spider-woman

  • @JustinVanTrump
    @JustinVanTrump 8 месяцев назад +123

    You should've sinned Jeremy for not removing a sin because of Ganke playing Marvel's Spider-Man 2 as a reference to the upcoming game and then not removing another for having Yuri voice the Insomniac Spider-Man in the later sin

    • @ThaMxUp
      @ThaMxUp 8 месяцев назад +5

      omg so he was playing an insomniac spider-man game? I remember squinting omega hard at the screen when I was watching this on dvd at a family gathering recently and I thought I was crazy

    • @ASx2608
      @ASx2608 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@ThaMxUpInsomniac Spider-Man 2

  • @tomatosoup1304
    @tomatosoup1304 8 месяцев назад +48

    8:06 I actually love this point. So many people in fan spaces are horrified that her father was willing to shoot Gwen but he clearly didn't want to but also knew that (in his perspective) she was a criminal who killed someone. It was refreshing to see her dad took his job seriously and had good morals

  • @exileisland2675
    @exileisland2675 8 месяцев назад +77

    The scene of Spiderbyte letting Miles go has such immense weight. So much was said by saying nothing at all.

  • @thegreatherox
    @thegreatherox 8 месяцев назад +104

    Full respect for always calling Miles Spider-Man on the subtitles.

  • @Ahill57
    @Ahill57 8 месяцев назад +39

    Literal definition of 'Help a brother out' going WAY over his head.

  • @adfdasdfadfadsfareae
    @adfdasdfadfadsfareae 8 месяцев назад +104

    3:30
    Not only do most people not know that you can open a drum, the people that do know it, also know that doing so ruins the tuning. Those same people would also know that people frequently put pillows/towels/blankets inside drums to change or mute the sound.
    Basically, seeing a kick drum with something inside it would arouse suspicion from absolutely no one.

  • @UnwantedGhost1-anz25
    @UnwantedGhost1-anz25 8 месяцев назад +109

    The vocoded voice at 19:45 has me in tears. Well done, Th3Birdman.
    👏 😂

    • @chiffaonosu
      @chiffaonosu 8 месяцев назад +10

      I fking died on the haaaaaaaair

    • @abthedragon4921
      @abthedragon4921 8 месяцев назад +4

      Same 😂

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 8 месяцев назад +1

      He sounds like Madam Web when she goes beast mode

  • @firepuppies4086
    @firepuppies4086 8 месяцев назад +76

    25:32 let's also not forget... A spider person would want to save their relative and knows how hard it is to let go of it. pretty sure that is one reason Miles even got away.
    Keep in mind, Peter B narrowly kept Miles from getting caught...by Insomniac Spider-Man specifically.. the one who most recently had to let go of his aunt for the greater good AND, well would you look at that has a Miles who lost his father

    • @brendenhawley2225
      @brendenhawley2225 8 месяцев назад +9

      Yep I always assumed the other spider man heart was not in it.

  • @apollojustice9401
    @apollojustice9401 8 месяцев назад +14

    For Sin 96, I like your read but my interpretation was that it was a "Hero" Scene. She saw the look of fear in Miles eyes, the desperation to go home, and it resonated with her. She's a hero, a Spider-Man, and at that moment she saw just someone who needed help, and she didn't go through with it. It is not unlike someone like Peter, for example, to let someone he knows is dangerous go because they need to help someone. Very Spider-Man, so to speak.
    And I am fine with either read.

  • @BreadedBimbo
    @BreadedBimbo 8 месяцев назад +42

    and as a young latino who was a nerd and who was a told what to do all the time and who said "ima do my own thing" before this movie and after realizing that i am my own person and should go for my own flow, i relate so much to miles morales hes MY spider-man

  • @hedgehoundable
    @hedgehoundable 8 месяцев назад +42

    4:45 I'm guessing this Birdman hasn't obtain the power of "You sinned that movie so the answer is obviously NO" gag yet. Present Birdman's got so much to teach him.

  • @Paper_Jam200
    @Paper_Jam200 8 месяцев назад +24

    While your explanation at about here 24:00 is good, you forgot to mention that it's also partially Miles's fault that his version of Peter Parker died, because "Ken Doll" Parker was trying to protect Miles instead of trying to protect himself.

  • @JJCastaway
    @JJCastaway 8 месяцев назад +33

    As someone who used to hate your take on the first venom and even argued with you on it. I really have done a 360 and wholeheartedly enjoy your venom 1 lovers references, jabs and jokes at people like me. Its entertaining and funny af. Keep it up 👏

    • @Th3Birdman
      @Th3Birdman  8 месяцев назад +30

      Glad you're finding it funny now

  • @RenjiAbarai777
    @RenjiAbarai777 8 месяцев назад +16

    With all the insane and faulty sins they did, how could they not do "The portrayal of Miguel O'Hara in this film is problematic as casual fans will come to believe that he is always portrayed like this." Seriously Miguel was worthy to wield Mjolnir. 'Nuff Said.

    • @maefromnitw4091
      @maefromnitw4091 8 месяцев назад +4

      not really the movie's fault that some people are going to wrongly assume something

  • @4c3fr3h1y
    @4c3fr3h1y 8 месяцев назад +28

    Also, on the subject of when the girl lets miles go through the portal, it doesnt help that miguel was losing his shit and acting like a maniac. One person was clearly in the wrong in that situation and it wasn't miles.

  • @benjaminwellington8297
    @benjaminwellington8297 8 месяцев назад +73

    Spider-verse was incredible. Glad you made this video.

  • @dbzfan6900
    @dbzfan6900 8 месяцев назад +44

    7:08 the fact that I like both venom movies and corn on pizza is making me feel kinda bad about myself 😂😂😂😭😂

    • @daddyb1100
      @daddyb1100 8 месяцев назад +17

      Never had corn on pizza before but both venom movies are really fun. Probably not good comic adaptations but just good fun in my opinion. Sometimes it’s ok to say the books don’t matter.

  • @nvcomics
    @nvcomics 8 месяцев назад +86

    Miles Morales IS Spider-Man If anyone says otherwise you just either don't know or actively hate Spider-Man

    • @animeguy10000000
      @animeguy10000000 8 месяцев назад

      Or are racist.

    • @bye1551
      @bye1551 8 месяцев назад +27

      Or are racist

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 8 месяцев назад +7

      It's like saying that there is only one Thor... When Beta Ray Bill has BEEN around since... 83? Yeah older than plenty of the people who would say that crap.

    • @jlev1028
      @jlev1028 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@firepuppies4086 Thor is a name, not a mantle. Notice that every succeeding holder of the hammer before Jane Foster didn't name themselves after the god of thunder, they either called themselves "God of Thunder" or a similar name that relates to their weapon and powers.

    • @nvcomics
      @nvcomics 8 месяцев назад +6

      @@jlev1028 Eric Masterson was called Thor until Odinson came back where he changed to ThunderStrike. Also Beta Ray Bill literally went by Beta Ray Thor for a while along with Jane Foster being referred to as "Mighty Thor". Its a Mantle, marvel says so, move on

  • @indifference1015
    @indifference1015 8 месяцев назад +20

    Jeremy really is a glutton for punishment at this point.

  • @dkpent
    @dkpent 8 месяцев назад +30

    I still hate the fact that no one states how Peter b CHOOSES NOT TO FIGHT MILES by breaking off and gets ahead of everyone. If Peter was in on the chase? Miles is caught

  • @ITrySometimes
    @ITrySometimes 8 месяцев назад +16

    13:16 A 14 year old worked on this, thats certainly more talent than you have, Jeremy.

  • @OmegaBlackHeart
    @OmegaBlackHeart 8 месяцев назад +28

    Glad to be here to check this out. And always good to see you back, B-Man 👍🏼😎
    Edit: 16:40- I see what you did there 😅

  • @sly_cat
    @sly_cat 8 месяцев назад +20

    22:40 there’s also the fact most of them are still fucking around, one was still mid therapy visit and a couple of them just kept eating and working out.

  • @Mommy_Makima20
    @Mommy_Makima20 8 месяцев назад +82

    12:13 I noticed that was Miles 42 the second time I watched. Also, personally, while it doesn't work for Spot, I do believe that Jeremy explained why I don't like Miguel. He blames Miles for things like "If you hadn't been bit *your* Peter Parker would've lived" like Miles told the spider to bite him. And Miguel acting like Miles is a bigger threat than Spot

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад +13

      Thing is though is Spot is going to cause one of the canon events to happen (Jeff's death) meanwhile Miles is trying to stop it and Miguel is only prioritizing Miles because he's threatening the canon and the potential of if Jeff lives then the entire multiverse collapses meanwhile Spot while still a threat isn't the priority target as he's not really threatening the canon if anything he was causing them to happen (like with Captain Singh) and Miles was preventing them
      And Miguel saying if he hadn't been bit Peter would've lived isn't entirely false either Miles was supposed to write an essay chose not to hung out with Aaron got bit went back to the Spider that bit him and wound up in Peter's way so Peter had to balance fighting everyone and making sure Miles (who just got Spider powers that Peter could sense) is safe

    • @Zebo12345678
      @Zebo12345678 8 месяцев назад +13

      Miguel isn't trying to blame Miles for being bit and getting Peter Parker killed. He's trying to explain to Miles why it's so important for him to cooperate with Spider Society. Miles is an anomaly. He's a problem, and he has to accept it. That's Miguel's stance, and he's trying to scare Miles into giving up or seeing things his way. Miguel lacks the delicacy to handle interacting with a teenager like Miles, hence everyone else telling him to "go easy on Miles." The more Miles pushes back against Miguel, the angrier Miguel gets, which ends in him yelling at Miles for not respecting the danger he poses on his entire universe by being an anomaly.

    • @Mommy_Makima20
      @Mommy_Makima20 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MichaelDavis2754I hear that, and I understand, counterpoint, Earth 1048 (Insomniac Spider-Man). If all police captains are supposed to die, then Yuri shouldn't be Wraith

    • @Mommy_Makima20
      @Mommy_Makima20 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@MichaelDavis2754Yeah i know that, but Miguel is saying it like Miles knew his actions would make him Spider-Man, and all of this would happen

    • @MichaelDavis2754
      @MichaelDavis2754 8 месяцев назад

      @@Mommy_Makima20 yeah but it's not Yuri as a police captain that dies
      It's usually Captain Stacy who dies
      Yuri is wraith in the comics and the game
      Same way Captain Stacy dies in the comics and TASM 1

  • @zacharybosley1935
    @zacharybosley1935 8 месяцев назад +7

    I just want to offer my sincerest gratitude for one editing decision you've made.
    Thank you for, in the face of a truly obnoxious wave of outrage following Spider-Man 2 Discourse, making a point to call Spider-Man Spider-Man in the subtitles. It's deeply comforting to know that there's a reasonable population of Spider-Man fans who know that Spider-Man is Spider-Man.

  • @Chubby_Runs
    @Chubby_Runs 8 месяцев назад +9

    21:44 this sin is especially stupid because they’re separate fucking events, losing a close friend or relative to inspire a spider person to become Spider-Man and losing a captain close to them are separate events

  • @superkid3188
    @superkid3188 8 месяцев назад +5

    Ned from the MCU is just Ganke, but for Peter.
    In the comics Ned and Peter met at work, they were close enough that he went to Ned's wedding, but beyond that they weren't really friends outside of work, Ned was also a domestic abuser, which was later retconned to be the result of hypnosis, alongside his time as the Hobgoblin. (Which is the most BS cop-out way to absolve Edward.)

  • @SalemWolf
    @SalemWolf 8 месяцев назад +22

    There was also one additional reason the Spider-people had trouble catching Miles: they weren't used to working as a team, at least not many of them. For the majority of them they're a solo act, most of them got in each other's way, giving Miles the chance to escape.

  • @arinwolfe4853
    @arinwolfe4853 8 месяцев назад +14

    20:33 Something rather neat I want to point out about this scene is that it's most likely that this version of the prowler is from earth 199999. (Or adjacent earth but I personally hope not.) Which I think is awesome considering we haven't yet gotten to see that in any movies take place in that universe so this makes for some awesome foreshadowing. Which could also mean that the MCU is going to have a version of Miles Morales, potentially one that also becomes a spider man.

    • @mobgabriel1767
      @mobgabriel1767 8 месяцев назад +3

      Its confirmed that It is prowler 199999

  • @RevengeoftheBallen831
    @RevengeoftheBallen831 8 месяцев назад +8

    Birdman has finally accepted the fact that Morbius truly was one of, if not *the* movie of all time, after his initial review.

  • @jackofalltraits2145
    @jackofalltraits2145 8 месяцев назад +28

    24:09 As a Spider-Man junkie myself, I’m not part of half the audience you lost. I hear “Spider-Totem” and I’m immediately invested. I’m assuming it’s from the Spider-Verse comic run, along with the “Web of Destiny”.

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 8 месяцев назад +2

      And I'm pretty sure the Web of Life and Destiny has BEEN a thing for... Yeah I believe Madame Webb mentioned it in the 90s cartoon

    • @zacharybosley1935
      @zacharybosley1935 8 месяцев назад +2

      I hope that the Web of Destiny gets properly invoked at some point, but given the nature of this trilogy's direction, I'm thinking that's a far shot in Beyond.
      That said, what we've gotten instead is way better than I expected.

  • @Darxxxide
    @Darxxxide 8 месяцев назад +7

    "If you know you know, and if you don't you'll complain in my comment section."
    Real talk. That's worth at least a fiver. Merry Christmas.

  • @GobblyGook
    @GobblyGook 8 месяцев назад +23

    I am genuinely confused on why Jeremy is sinning the fact that the first half of the movie is more family drama then Spiderman. Both me and everyone I've asked really enjoys that part, and my dad especially really felt for the parents 😅

    • @finnsword8286
      @finnsword8286 8 месяцев назад +5

      His short attention span.

    • @Chuck_EL
      @Chuck_EL 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​​​@@finnsword8286 @ 10:21 Shows Jeremy never had a relationship or a mutual crush as a teenager
      Especially for artistic teenagers that's very common

  • @Nickyc997
    @Nickyc997 8 месяцев назад +16

    2:35 this is exactly my argument for keeping everything they were gonna do for kang exactly the same with a new actor if they have to fire him for the assault shit theres no reason they cant say "this one just looks different" if there can be a female loki there can be a different looking kang

  • @ParisianPrince02
    @ParisianPrince02 8 месяцев назад +8

    I think my favorite part of this vid is seeing your process and setup… dunno if you’ve done it yet but if you could share what your setup is and what tech you’re using… greatly appreciated… now I gotta press play! Lol

    • @Th3Birdman
      @Th3Birdman  8 месяцев назад +5

      Equipment used (along with links to purchase every single item I use) is in the description!
      Also, the live voiceover is available for Channel Members. It's been up for two days already. Join and you can access the vid!

  • @snbks4ever
    @snbks4ever 8 месяцев назад +14

    great video!!! loved the creativity, the editing. I remember half way through just checking the time and thinking awesome this is a longer video. Loved Across the Spider-verse and that ending there telling Mel to shut up b*tch via the Rock was icing on the cake. Can't wait for the next one

  • @OrgXIII_
    @OrgXIII_ 8 месяцев назад +9

    8:20 “Gonna Cry”? 😂😂

  • @FatedHandJonathon
    @FatedHandJonathon 8 месяцев назад +9

    10:40 Also, this isn't a random reference to a popular movie, it has context. They're poking fun at the fact that "Home Trilogy" Ned is explicitly inspired by Ganke from the comics. Comic Ganke is literally the original "guy in the chair".

  • @razorshark9702
    @razorshark9702 8 месяцев назад +24

    2:08 I just grab some mustard and eat all the pretzels out the bag first😭

  • @wingblade6023
    @wingblade6023 8 месяцев назад +5

    2:05 Thank you, I am so glad I'm not the only one that does this. I literally have a second bowl that I dump all of the pretzels into while I eat Munchies.

  • @dragoniccrab
    @dragoniccrab 8 месяцев назад +5

    I love the alternate universes of the Birdman bit you did. Can't wait to see Th3Birdman15 Multiverse

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 8 месяцев назад +6

    14:44 I didn’t know that about spiders or Spider-Man, that’s super cool! That’s something I gotta work into my Spidersona stuff

  • @cosmo8720
    @cosmo8720 8 месяцев назад +6

    It is here!!! Thanks for the video Birdman!

  • @Evanz111
    @Evanz111 8 месяцев назад +6

    Damn! I only just watched this for the first time, so incredible timing! I watched it with my mum who has no knowledge of Marvel/Sony or animated stuff and even she loved it!

  • @thesaltdragon
    @thesaltdragon 8 месяцев назад +5

    23:30 another point is that while yes, Miles's actions somewhat caused him to become Spiderman, something CS misses is that while it might not be Miles's fault, Miguel doesn't see it that way. He lost everything to the continuity, and openly seeing Miles straight up deny to follow the canon events is like an insult to him. It feels like Miles is putting down Miguel's trauma as nothing because*he* can do it where Miguel couldn't. Miguel is furious at this point, and probably even blames Miles for his continuity event a bit. Even if someone placed the spider on top of Miles for it to bite him Miguel would still hate him. (Also, as a side note, he's clearly projecting his self hatred at Miles in this scene)

  • @alexspace9878
    @alexspace9878 8 месяцев назад +14

    Love the callout on why Margo would help Miles out in the go home machine.

  • @DiamondBatToons
    @DiamondBatToons 8 месяцев назад +4

    Words can't describe how hyped I've been for this video! It's finally here!! Also, major respect for that "Earth-1218" edit, why you don't have more subs, is a complete mystery.

  • @Extreme2566
    @Extreme2566 8 месяцев назад +5

    19:33 I like the multiverse birdmen especially the music one😂😂😂😂

  • @otr23kb
    @otr23kb 8 месяцев назад +5

    Your ITSV video was how i found out about your channel and subsequently became my favouite video of yours. glad this one lived up to it 🔥

  • @Abandoned978
    @Abandoned978 8 месяцев назад +5

    3:25 Ay, drummer here! The real sin is that Gwen only has a single wingnut holding the rim of her bass drum there, as opposed to all 8 or no rim at all. Uneven tension like that will cause the bass drum to warp over time.

  • @phantomthedragoness
    @phantomthedragoness 8 месяцев назад +9

    10:58 that clock thing I will never hold against Spiderverse. It actually feels more realistic. Every day in high school, at least one clock was broken, not on time, etc. The teachers just didn't care to fix them and students didn't ask as we checked the correct time in our laptops, tablets and/or phones.

  • @LightingbladeShen
    @LightingbladeShen 8 месяцев назад +3

    Miguel: "the Canon Event has to happen. You HAVE to fail saving your parent cop captain, Miles. So instead I'm going to prevent you from following the canon (IE attempt to save the captain figure) like a proper canon breaking vampire spiderman"
    Spectacular: "I can't ever look the other way..oh schnikt, wrong universe, I mean, "'its the truth miles"
    Also, nah Jeremy, ya didn't just sin anything involving the best character in the movie, Hobie Brown who I knew off , but this movie absolutely made me fall in love with the character.

  • @OwenOgletree
    @OwenOgletree 8 месяцев назад +7

    Did anybody else cringe really hard at the way Jeremy complained about the 71 seconds of logos? Seriously, this dude threw a tantrum over fucking logos. He is in his late 40's. Would it kill him to act like it?

    • @jbcatz5
      @jbcatz5 8 месяцев назад +2

      It’s like he was trying to get 71 seconds of video out of complaining about 71 seconds of logos.

    • @OwenOgletree
      @OwenOgletree 8 месяцев назад

      @@jbcatz5 That's what his game is: padding the run-time and sin count.

  • @Morboeatspeople
    @Morboeatspeople 8 месяцев назад +7

    The most important detail in how Miles escapes all the others? In that situation, only one person's spidey senses are going to be functioning. Only Miles is in perceived danger so, all the other spider-men are without their most powerful asset. Imagine chasing someone down with your depth perception suddenly removed, when you've been used to it your whole life.

    • @ursidae97
      @ursidae97 8 месяцев назад

      I... I don't...I guess you're right. I think Spiders can sense more than that but I think they also can't... With other Spiders... So I think you're right...I think...

  • @jackofalltraits2145
    @jackofalltraits2145 8 месяцев назад +16

    Let’s just all be thankful that Jeremy did not sin Josh Keaton as Spectacular Spider-Man. I can just imagine what he would have said: “Who the $&@# are you?! What’s your relevance?! Why are you the one telling this to Miles?! Is this something I’m going to have to research later?!”
    Thank god he didn’t.

  •  8 месяцев назад +19

    6:13 When Hammerspace showed up when I watched ATSV in the cinema, I was thinking that Jeremy would've *removed* a sin for it, so this CS sin was really satisfying.

  • @jennytulls6369
    @jennytulls6369 6 месяцев назад +1

    Jeremy complaining that the heroes don't make use of hammerspace is funny because literally Spider-Ham uses it in the first film, including an actual cartoon hammer

  • @omarimus2260
    @omarimus2260 8 месяцев назад +4

    10:56 Jeremy fails to take into account that clocks can be wrong, every clock in my school has the wrong time due to my school being broke

  • @kgmotte2363
    @kgmotte2363 8 месяцев назад +2

    I Opened this Vid Thinking "The Balls they have of even THINKING about Sinning this Movie" and Th3Birdman did not disappoint with his First 15 Sins! Perfection!

  • @RaikanaAF
    @RaikanaAF 8 месяцев назад +5

    “Miles morales issssss Mil- SHUT BIT-” is the best thing ever

  • @AwkwardCat23
    @AwkwardCat23 8 месяцев назад +9

    Early gang, Happy holidays. So sad that Jeremy can sin such an animation, storytelling, and a global masterpiece

    • @champsammy13
      @champsammy13 8 месяцев назад +1

      Anything can be a sin if You're brave enough
      ... or you're a Christian.

  • @OmnicidalClown1992
    @OmnicidalClown1992 8 месяцев назад +8

    10:13 "A moment of silence for Jeremy's last brain cell."
    *Me bowing my head in silence.
    Seconds later; That was fun.

  • @sunnydsyoutube
    @sunnydsyoutube 8 месяцев назад +2

    Th3Birdpeak my favorite youtuber finally covering my favorite movie fr

  • @XxShadow101xX
    @XxShadow101xX 8 месяцев назад +6

    15:00, JEREMY MISSED THE ENTIRE MORAL OF THE STORY.
    Miles fights to show Miguel that NOT ALL "CANON EVENTS" HAVE TO BE SET IN STONE!! What the actual hell, does this guy take stupid pills?

  • @thatguyfromA6915
    @thatguyfromA6915 8 месяцев назад +9

    as someone who likes venom 1 and 2 i can say that i hate corn but i do love me a good pizza
    also 25:25 i never thought of that but it make so much sense

  • @doodoo5594
    @doodoo5594 8 месяцев назад +4

    Jeremy sinning Hobie's accent even though Daniel Kaluuya is literally from London and Jeremy isn't even from the UK💀💀

  • @maefromnitw4091
    @maefromnitw4091 8 месяцев назад +4

    sinning daniel kaluuya for his accent is interesting

  • @juanrisa945
    @juanrisa945 8 месяцев назад +10

    15:08 Also, her saying that is a sign of Miguel's indoctrination. Specially if the 1994 Spider-Man cartoon is part of the Spider-Verse, since the series finale featured an alternative reality where both Gwen and Peter's Uncle Ben are both still alive (and Gwen actually *married* Spidey).

    • @bye1551
      @bye1551 8 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly, the point is this scene is clever foreshadowing that the concept of cannon events is bullshit because OBVIOUSLY it doesn't happen in *every* universe, but if Gwen has bought Miguel's bullshit to believe cannon events, her brain is already programmed to view patterns as certainties. If 3000000 Gwen's fall in love with Spiderman and die, that means Gwen Stacy dying is a cannon event even though we know just based on math that's not how it works and even then, that only accounts for non-powered Gwen's falling in love with powered Spiderman and not a powered Gwen falling in love with a non-powered or even powered Spiderman.

    • @brendenhawley2225
      @brendenhawley2225 8 месяцев назад

      That also applies to sinning any of Miguel logic, does the man seem sane to you. There is a decent chance the spider group here is a spider cult. Just ask Hobo, he knows, looks on how he fakes dumbness while stealing the parts interdimensional tech under the spider cult nose.

  • @mrstabtoxic
    @mrstabtoxic 8 месяцев назад +1

    This intro to your video is such a good way to show what your channel is like vs the haters

  • @redacted4182
    @redacted4182 5 месяцев назад +3

    22:35
    Also, fact check me on this if I'm wrong, if i remember throughout the whole chase. All the other spider-people were on the offense while Miles was on the defense so his spider sense was playing a key factor in him being able to escape.

  • @kenji6492
    @kenji6492 8 месяцев назад +2

    I knew about the spit valve in saxophones because I grew up playing brass instruments.
    Also there would have already been a Spider-Totem in 1610-B because it already had a Spider-Man when Miles was bitten. 42 is a world with a Spider-Totem but no Spider-Man, hence its chaotic breakdown in the year and a half since the spider vanished.

  • @Vegitodraws
    @Vegitodraws 8 месяцев назад +5

    16:59 moreover, if Jeremy bothered to read the fucking books or even a wiki page for that matter, Spider sense only works when the person or situation around them poses a potential threat. That's why once the venom symbiote detached itself from Peter, that Spider-Man can't sense Eddie (because his Spider-sense no longer detects the symbiote as a danger). Oh, random fact, this also makes Spider-Man criminally good at poker because his semse sees the loss of money as a threat.

  • @ShadowStylez
    @ShadowStylez 8 месяцев назад +3

    I actually like the pretzels in Munchies for the added texture and as for flavor, I consider them the base since they're the blandest thing in the bag. As for pretzels by themselves, fuhgeddaboutit.

  • @s-viper1462
    @s-viper1462 8 месяцев назад +16

    1:00 Jeremy has a Gen-Z attention span if he thinks that 20-71 seconds is a long time

  • @Grimm196
    @Grimm196 8 месяцев назад +2

    The concept that CinemaSins can't grasp is Spider-sense. Spider-sense goes off if they're is a THREAT like a gun being aimed at you or someone about to hit you. Miles wasn't trying to do any of that to Gwen so it didn't go off.

  • @turbkeysamdwich1880
    @turbkeysamdwich1880 8 месяцев назад +7

    4:33 ALSO (I’m pretty sure) the Spider-Society didn’t exist during the first movie.