Story 2: The doctor basically wrote "You're a cruel, heartless POS with zero consideration of the humanity of your employees. I will personally make sure your turnover rate goes high until you change your heart and drop your stupid rule" in the most formal way I could think of. I guess the higher-ups verbally beat the crap out of the boss
Nah, with big companies, the amount of paperwork you have to go through for accommodations can be RIDICULOUS. I'm currently on round #2. And with prior situations, I've had to get hr (written up for a disability I disclosed), ada compliance, and osha involved before. So the current stunts don't scare me. (It's often not as simple as a note. It's forms and charts from company hr for your physician to fill out.)
An assistant manager once tried to write me up for being an hour late from lunch, and as a result we lost a $1000 sale. I told him: A) Due to treatment for a back injury, I have a MEDICAL ACCOMODATION to take 2 hour lunches, which he should have known; B) The sale didn't go through because the customer's card was declined, not because I wasn't there; C) I won't sign this, and I want a meeting with HR. He seemed shocked. I don't think he knew that was an option. After the meeting, I received letters of apology from both HR and the store manager. There was no write up. And the assistant manager was fired a month later, so I was ok with that.
Story 2: Request a written copy of the policy, and then take it to a doctor, a lawyer, OSHA, and the SDL, and then sit back as the company tries to defend violating labor law
There are three types of workers in most boss’s eyes: the replaceable, the over-engaged, and the integral. Replaceable, you can find a replacement within 3 weeks. You don’t need them unless you’re so horrible they all quit at once. Over-engaged do more than their contract requires. It’s harder to replace them unless you hire two or more workers who will do the job for more money as a whole. Try to keep these guys, and make them feel appreciated. The integral have secret techniques and shortcuts that make your hardest work easy. The best ones when you drop in unannounced can seem lazy, or spending a bunch of time on silly side tasks. _Triple check their value before even considering firing them._ You have no guarantee they’ll train their methods and tricks to their replacements, and hence make you pay through the nose for either manual replacements or the now freelance worker’s contractor wages for the same job.
I worked in a technical job where the boss micromanaged everyone. A co-worker and I refused listen to his crap and because of this our raises were less. He didn’t realize that we were the go to guys when our fellow techs had problems. Upper management knew this but didn’t intervene. Another company was taking over the contract with different equipment and we were both hired by them because of our reputation. The interview was when can you start. The company we quit fired the manager within a week of us quitting. Because of our knowledge of the services we provided on the contract we took over the services about 8 months early so they lost close to $10 million in revenue. They tried to hire me back a few years later but I just laughed.
when the temp agency told them not to ever do it again i would have told them: no i will quit any job thats like that then i will sue you guys for not doing your job to verify the conditions of the workplace
When a boss says “you’re useless and replaceable” it is time to find another job. Because really the boss is only talking out their ass when they act like that and they are only using it as a fear tactic, if you find another job the boss is going to feel like the real idiot because he or she will have to waste more time and money hiring someone else.
With story two, where I live, no company would ever dream of telling an employee not to drink water. In our climate we actively encourage drinking water and tons of businesses make it a habit to offer water as a courtesy. Many of the jobs I've worked in management has gone out of their way to encourage employees to drink more water because they understand dehydrated employees make mistakes and often have to go home.
It doesn't matter where you are now. This summer in Texas, a company who works manual labor outside said no water outside breaks. Well someone ended up dying. They just don't care about anything but money
I think that's because the state passed a law saying they didn't have to provide water anymore. You gotta love a state known for its high temperatures passing a law like that. 🙄
I worked for Universal Studios Florida back in 2008. I had Type 2 Diabetes. I was also overweight. I was to be working as an outside vendor for a toy that I could "play" with to show it off to customers. I would only be surrounded by other outside vendors. We all just had little kiosks with the toys and register. No umbrellas to help keep the sun off of us. And no water to drink. Even with a doctor's note. Needless to say I looked for another job.
@@thenerdytiger9306It isn't hard to understand, USA laws are designed to maximize corporate profits and minimize worker rights. It really is a third world country in that respect.
@@noseboop4354 That... Is not what 'third world' means. First, second, and third world are just what side everyone was on in the Cold War, and realistically still are on as the Cold War seems to be coming back. First world is US & her allies; second world is China, Russia, & their allies; and third world is unaligned. It's not a measure of development, it's who's fighting alongside who when the nukes drop and WWIII starts.
I worked at Costco in October the year I graduated High School as one of those Sampler people and my boss was a narcissistic witch. I found out that she would hound the newer hires if we were 2 minutes late, yell at us if we didn’t have enough samples out or push the product out (which we did), and talk down to us like we were stupid kids for no reason. She never did it to the older employees, just me (I was 18) and the other younger hires. One day after my shift she told me to come in 15 minutes early the next day to have a talk with me about my work performance. I arrived two minutes late because it was winter at the time and it had snowed the night before, as soon as she saw me she started yelling at me. She berated me for being ‘late’ and started telling me that I’m 18 years old and should start acting like an adult because I’m not a kid anymore and that she wasn’t my mom (I swear she said that) Finally I got angry and told her ‘You’re right, you’re NOT my mom because MY MOM isn’t a condescending bitch like you!’ She then told me ‘If you don’t like working here then quit’ So I did. I threw my apron and hat on her desk, told her that I quit, grabbed my stuff and left. 1 week later I came in to get my last paycheck and found out that she was fired because of her horrible attitude towards the younger hires. According to my former colleagues apparently me quitting was the final strike against her. I never saw her again. They did offer me my position back if I needed work but I turned it down because I had signed up for Job Corps.
Wow!! I thought for sure that the younger hires would go to the older hires for advice or at least ask them to step in. But good for you. Just curious: after you quit, how many of the young hires follow suit?
@@Rylosalex They did but it didn’t really do any good. If anything it made it worse. Thank you. They all did shortly after I did and apparently they all filed complaints against her. I didn’t have to because I got a call from the boss above my boss asking why I quit (I don’t know if that’s normal) and I told them what happened between me and her.
@@tmntfangirl4700 Bet boss lady was dumbfounded when she got fired. I am also a TMNT fan as well. Grew up with the 80's TMNT with my 2 little brothers. I loved 2003 TMNT and adore 2012 TMNT.
@@Rylosalex Probably, sadly I’ll never know. Me too. I grew up with the 80’s series with an older brother. The 2003 reignited my love for TMNT in my senior year of high school and I found the 2012 series to be cool and cute too. So who’s your favorite turtle? Mine’s Mikey, then Leo, then Donnie and Raph.
1. Boss or not, grab my arm like that and I'm dropping your ass right there. That or I'm faking a fall, getting injured and suing. 2. WalMart used to tell cashiers that they couldn't have water at the register. I told them to piss off, I'm diabetic, I'm on medications that make me thirsty, deal. No one ever asked me for a dr note.
Story 4: I had a boss that loved to say that to me. Shame Helluva Boss didn't exist back then, because I would have blasted "2 minute notice" on a locked computer at full volume and discretely disconnected the keyboard and mouse as I walked out the door. You don't treat employees like that. We're people, and we have self-respect.
Yeah most companies at least actively discourage or outright mock employees for drinking water. I was pregnant and having done research knew it was dangerous to my baby if I didn't drink about a gallon a day. Literally every manager made snide remarks about it, especially every time I had to go to the bathroom. But joke's on them. I had a healthy baby boy and quit halfway through my leave. Story 4: Worked at a factory for a company that makes hoses. Made friends with fellow coworkers but was not treated as a human being by the management. I was a temp so they didn't care about me. 1. Had a rule you couldn't go on lunch unless you were told to. Kept forgetting about me. 2. Under no circumstances is the line to be shut down even if one of the machines is malfunctioning, so it's your job to coil thousands of yards of hose on the floor until the problem gets fixed. Those things are heavy and I'm not a superhuman so I can't do that for hours on end without breaks. 3. They were EXTREMELY strict about clock in and clock out times being on the exact minute or you would be reprimanded. One day I was working the entire line by myself. My main job was to package the product and stack it correctly based on size, then push it to the back to be inspected. My speed had greatly improved in the 2 months I had been working there but I knew well enough not to compromise quality for speed. Naturally I can't work as fast as two or three people so I'm given help for like 5 minutes and they do a really crappy job at packaging and stacking so while I was glad of the help I was also frustrated knowing I would have to fix their work. But then there was a problem on the line and I had to stop packaging and start coiling. But no one is coming to help me or fix the problem on the line. Managers are literally just standing around talking as if it isn't happening while I'm breaking my arms and trying not to trip on colied line. Later, I'm literally screaming for help and the managers in charge were still ignoring me. When I was finally allowed to go on lunch two hours late I was contemplating quitting, but some food and rest cooled my head. Going back in was my biggest mistake though because a manager screamed at me about what an awful job "my" packing and stacking was. I would personally have to bust open and re pack and re stack every single pallet that had been done on my line. All while meeting my quota for what was still coming down the line. I was STILL BY MYSELF. That's when I started crying and they started mocking me. Then the same machine error happened again and I was coiling the rest of the shift. Still nobody had come to help, and even the bosses who were previously standing around unconcerned were gone. So I watched the clock and when it was exactly time for me to leave I ducked under the line an got out of there. I received a phone call the next day from the temp agency and they said they didn't care to hear what had happened but since I left without being dismissed I had effectively quit. I tried to explain what happened but they didn't want to hear it. I told them I left when my shift ended and tried to get someone's attention but was told it didn't matter. TL;DR Two months working at a factory I was fired for busting my ass trying to run an entire line of product by myself and not making quota shen the machines were broken with nobody to come fix them. In case you are curious that company was Rain Bird. I don't care who knows that they treat their employees like shit.
You so totally did that wrong. Should have waited till end of leave. Two weeks before first day back would have been perfect. Otherwise you could gave lost being oaid t8ll end of leave.
@@bruceearl9686 I live in the US. You don't get paid for FMLA leave, and don't get any paid time off unless you are full time for at least a year. Only managers work full time, they don't let anyone else get enough hours. Also employees didn't get any raise or Christmas bonus last year because the CEO thought the money was better spent on a week long corporate trip.
Years ago I worked at a craft store, one that tends to employee a lot of older women. One day I got my lip pierced, I had a thin silver hoop going through the center of my lower lip. I got to work and my store manager noticed but didn't say anything. She knew I was a hard worker and it wouldn't affect my performance whatsoever. Months go by without a single customer complaint but then one day the regional manager comes for his annual visit. The moment he saw me he said "No. That has to go." My manager pointed out to him that there was nothing in the dress code about piercings. He fumed but left me alone. Then a few weeks later we received an updated employee handbook, even though it was rarely updated. Under the dress code it said no piercings or tattoos. All the other employees were livid because every one of them had their ears pierced. Now they only had single holes in each ear and tended to wear studs or small hoops but still, telling an employee at a freaking craft store that they couldn't wear any earrings was ridiculous. Everyone at my location, and I'm assuming many others, complained so much to corporate that they edited it to specify facial piercings, My store manager still didn't make me remove mine because she thought the rule was stupid. But yeah, if anyone worked at Joann Fabrics after 2004 and that rule was still in the handbook it's my fault.
My father was an air traffic controller for many years. As you can imagine, a lot of policies changed around 2002. A lot made sense given the temperature of the world, but in ‘06 a rule was added that they had to follow a dress code of khaki pants and a button up shirt. They asked why and were told to look more professional. That is ridiculous because it’s a federal crime to get where you can see an air traffic controller while he’s working without going through three security checkpoints minimum. Anyway, one day a controller wore a pair of Dickey’s khakis. He was told these did not go with the spirit of the dress code and that he was not allowed to wear them. The message went out that Dickey’s weren’t allowed. But the FAA didn’t count on two things. One, Dickey’s makes political contributions. Two, a controller in the system knew Dickey’s CEO. After a few phone calls were made, a new memo went out that said, not only are Dickey’s allowed, but their clothing was part of the consideration for the new dress code. The controllers’ response was if they’re going to be this stupid about it, we’ll give them Dickey’s til they come out of their ears. Each controller went out and bought at least five outfits of Dickey’s pants and shirts and most wore exclusively those until the dress code was relaxed five years later.
Apparently, Dickie's are a clothing brand famous for what is known as the 874 working pants, which have been a firm favorite of over 50 years for being versatile, comfortable, and durable. So much so that the Dickie's brand became the general name for those style of pants, like q-tip instead of cotton swab.@@gorilladisco9108
@@gorilladisco9108 After a small amount of googling I found they look like completly normal pants, mostly beige. I expected "Dickey's" to make some sort of silly pants with cartoon characters based on the story, but they're just regular pants.
Story 5: I wish there was a picture of the boss’s face when they saw OP walked in wearing a kilt and after reading the entire dress code, realized there was nothing they could do
@@user-kl8lo6rj5i this is true. I remember a former coworker who once wore a kilt to work. All the women said he had nice legs. And some of them were even giving him “that look”
My husband looks like Santa and he's got 3 kilts. We actually did our renewal marriage ceremony with him and our then-7 year old grandson in matching ones that I made. I LOVE him in his kilts, and quite frankly, if he could, he would wear them everywhere. I've actually thought about making him a Santa version with the red/green plaid and having it available for our nights out to restaurants, etc. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. that's an idea.
A few years ago we knew a mature woman who worked at a famous Canadian doughnut shop chain. The franchise owners put their son in charge of the shop, one of his rules was no bathroom breaks unless you are at lunch or scheduled break. Most of the employees were adults in their late forties to mid fifties, this didn't go down well, consequently the day shift at the shop was always short staffed as most of the employees quit.
Story 1: Since the OP was in High School he was possibly still a minor . So laying hands on him is a no no . 2: There is a good probability there are cameras in the restaurant so the manager/owner knew that if she tried to use the camera footage against the op for squirting the mustard and ketchup on her it could be turned around on her for assaulting a minor.
I took a second, part-time job as a security guard at a women's college. They provided uniforms (all polyester) and even paid when you took them to a particular cleaner. There were both long- and short-sleeved shirts, but just long pants. Over the years, they had accumulated quite a few extra uniforms. I found a pair of pants that had started to wear out. I made them into shorts, using the material to cover the worn spots. It was a good tailoring job. I wore them on hot days, and no one said a word. Two factors may have been in play: the college had a fashion design program, and I was only 40ish and had good legs.
Story 4: "Please don't do that again." Then don't send people to work for someone who is breaking the law, dishing out threats, and is clearly NOT a good boss. Frankly, that temp agency was lucky they didn't get in trouble too. They are REQUIRED to check on things like this. They could be hit with MASSIVE osha fines for their incompetency.
"It ain't MY fault that Scott overflowed the basket of fries even though I told him to load as many fries as possible" Because the dude snapped and sprayed her with condiments, she's never going to realize that it's her fault 100%. She'll act like a victim Or maybe she did after everyone else chewed her out
I worked at a McDonald’s in 85 (I think 🤔 ) my job was fry’s one morning my shift boss caught me before work asked me if I wanted to smoke some weed we got stoned went to work an hour later still baked out of my mind cooking and munching frys manager came in caught me eating while working put what I cooked in a bag and fired me . LAMO 😂😅 All I could think was I get to keep ALL THESE FRYS while I hitch hiked home 😂😅
How did Nuberus put it (even as so many Karen bosses forget)? "The Emperor does have more rice, but does he *grow* the rice? Does he *gather* the rice or *cook* it? No. The foolish emperor comes to expect the rice, regardless of what he does. (Accusing the Vampirella villain of doing likewise) Does the farmer whose crops are burned or whose family is slaughtered give rice. No, if you would have rice, then you must never forget the farmers." Karen bosses always forget... because they are crazy.
I love an MD who has their patient’s back, especially one who will write a letter which sheds light on abusive practices in the workplace, make the manager look like an ass, on demand.
Depending on country, the agency could be looking at legal or financial trouble if the place they were sending temps really had that many safety violations.
Story 4: While it's not clear what country this takes place in, if it was the US you can bet I'd be reporting that company to OSHA as soon as I quit, pinning the blame squarely on that manager.
Worked for a veterinary office. The owner started on about how lazy everyone was, while we were busting our asses to get the accreditation she wanted by the end of the year. Finally got it and we thought she might relax, but she just became even more of a petty tyrant. Over the next couple months she lost all her veteran staff who had been at that clinic for years.
Surprisingly a lot of places try to ban all beverages from cash registers because they have a overactive fear of if the tiniest bit of moisture gets on the register the whole system will go down you know instead of just buying POS POSs actually investing in some decent one and decent cable management
Water Story: The moment I heard the No Water Rule, I'd be calling the State Department of Labor and ask them if that Rule was Legal... If it wasn't, then I'd ask them to send that to me in writing and when Boss Bitched about my people having water at their station, I'd simply hand him the DoL Rule showing that he can't Legally ban it and I'm NOT going to Violate State Labor Law for him... 😄😁😆😅😂🤣
Did that once. My boss was trying to violate a customer privacy policy insisting it was fine. I just called a lawyer, get a copy of the article of the law and send it to my boss with my 2 weeks notice since it wasn't the only crappy incident. I will always remember her shocked face
I live in Arizona and I used worked at a major national grocery store that starts with an S, you do the math. Anyway they also have the stupid rule about drinks at the register. When they first implemented this rule and started to enforce it, we all simply turned to our managers and said "you do realize that Arizona State law specifically states that you cannot deny someone water at any point for any reason". Well, next thing we know that rule had been changed to state that water in a container that could be sealed/closed would be allowed. Someone hadn't done their homework before completely banning something and making a new rule, sad when the employee's have more knowledge than the big bosses do!
BK story: Very lucky she didn't wind up face first in the fryer oil. Water story: I do have to wonder how much business that pharmacy lost over that. I wonder how long it took to ban kilts?
Recently, a Taylor Swift show was postponed because a fan died because of the heat, because people weren't allowed to bring their own water and couldn't buy any inside the venue. Dehydration and heat stroke are serious business. Stay hydrated.
@@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS Much as I don't like Taylor, that's completely the venue's fault, not hers. They set these bogus rules to try and rake even more money from people, not understanding water is, ya know, a basic requirement for the human body to function.
I will never understand why so many bosses assume that you're blowing off work when you're sick or that you must have been up all night partying if you're not sleeping well. I'm one of those employees who always works her shift, (I can't afford not to) but the few times I've been sick, I must be faking, so I'm always required to get a Doctor's note, despite our own 2 day policy.
Story 2: in Portland the bus company decided one year during a heat wave that the bus drivers shouldn't have more bathroom breaks than at the end of the route. This meant less beverage intake during a heat wave. Needless to say that policy didn't last long.
During my Uni classes, we studied different management styles, and the course material was a book highlighting good vs. bad management. The book is basically a how-to on malicious compliance. Example: management wants us to wear full business suits, tie and all, instead of the casual we've been wearing so far? OK then. Everyone goes to their local second-hand/thrift store to buy the most hideous, 70s/80s style ties and mismatched jackets. We all looked like clowns with wide ties and big colar jackets. That rule lasted about 24h. A great quote from said book: "Our bosses are like seagulls. They fly in from up high, make a lot of noise, leave a big pile of shit everywhere, then fly off again" - Nurse at a hospital
The "No water on the sales floor or for cashiers" is fairly common in my experience. I worked at one crafts store where a co-worker was VERY obviously pregnant, but she still had to have a doctor's note. Another crafts store job straight up said it was "Unprofessional" for cashiers to have water at their station, and restricted what they would accept a doctor's note for (basically, no notes about water "Just because", it had to have a valid medical reason). An uncle who works at Wal-Mart said they can't have water either. (Save for the people getting carts.) When I worked at a local sandwich shop and at a regional pharmacy chain, they both not only allowed water, but encouraged it. We had to have our drinks on a back counter at the sandwich shop and we were trusted to be responsible about when we stepped away to get a drink (such as during a lull in customers).
I relate to that last story, a manager at my last job bet I wouldn’t wear a kilt at work; I proceeded to wear one for the remainder of my 5 years at that company; and got the dress code to specifically allow kilts.
Story 4: You can tell when the only thing a manager, boss, higher-up, etc. cares about is their bottom line. Everyone else is beneath them, lowly people to bully and call "replaceable" should they have even the most minor complaint. And I don't know what the boss was expecting with the whole "If you're not happy, then leave!" comment. Like, everyone has the choice to quit, you can't take that choice away.
I had to deal with no drinks at the register when I worked for Walmart. I take allergy pills several times a day and got really dry mouth. I got a note from doc, and as long as it was in a closed bottle, I was okay. About 5 years after I left, all cashiers had drinks at their registers. My mom would go, "you can have drinks at the register? You should thanky daughter." She didn't say it rude or Karen-like. It was just a comment.
That french fry story makes me think of something I've seen in a lot of disaster movies, especially ones about earthquakes hit and there's a lot of shaking. You see a kitchen with the cook rolling around on the ground screaming and on fire.
2nd story STILL mind boggles me, being that these people could be wide open for a lawsuit for even believing such a rule of having no water is even legal to be put in.
Story 4 If those managers worked at a company in New Zealand, they forced somebody to carry something that the person couldn’t carry, the person got injured, through no fault of their own. It would come back on the manager, the owner of the company and the managers manager. All three would most likely be fined for not following health and safety rules. Also given a warning, saying if it happens again Harsha penalties. If it happens a third time, Work, safe will close it down.
Employees are replacable, but so are employers and even entire companies in most siturations. People really need to start thinking of the bigger picture rather than staying in their own little bubble.
I get migraines on my period where my eyes are very sensitive and occasionally need to wear dark sunglasses. Usually maybe 2 - 3 days where I could stay home or work with glasses. I always explain to my customers, never had any complain. But new supervisor had to give me a hard time. I had to get a note from my doctor and still had to go to HR to get the jerk off my back. I finally told HR, they could get him to leave me alone or my doctor said he would be happy to bill them when he had to appear in court in the unfair labor practices lawsuit I would file.
Oh my god, that last story, I saw something similar! I went to a place that was pretty formal, and there was one guy in a bright pink suit, magenta tie and everything (he looked great, but that’s besides the point). I was curious about his outfit, and he just joked that “I’m sticking it to my boss. I wanted to wear a plaid jacket, and he said ‘only solid colors’.” I laughed, and complimented his outfit again.
How did the boss get into a position of authority despite lacking basic knowledge like "Humans need water"? I guess his skillset begins and ends with "Advanced Butt-Kissing."
what i find funny about story 2, is the fact the higher ups thought it was perfectly reasonable to basically make working in the pharmacy as misurible as possible. it reminds me of when i worked at waffle house (for context, im basically 6 foot 6 inches tall, and i beat my lower back as a kid during my autistic outbursts, so if i bend over for long periods of time i have to sit down as it starts being very painful), i asked if i could have a chair to sit down in as im in pain, and they were like "nope! get a doctors note!". after finding out that the only thing they do during robberies or other criminal actions is "cameras and law enforcement" and "its a firable offense to defend the store", and the fact some of the coworkers were toxic while i worked there one day, after bout 4 days i basically quiet quit, as i would have to get on either a massage chair, or painkillers before i even drove, i would be constantly worried about my own safety, and i would be constantly on alert for any toxic coworkers that wants to pick a fight with me for no reason. so yea, not about that shit.
"Treat people with respect, and they will respect you." I wish that were true more often. They treated A-hole boss with respect, and were treated like crap. Yall, if you're ever in a situation like that (personally or professionally), LEAVE. You deserve better, and you can HAVE better. A classic trick of abusive people is to convince their victims there's no better option. That's simply not true. Speaking from personal experience in both aspects. I am much happier now. I wish the same for you, dear reader.
I'm grateful for compassionate and understanding employers at my two jobs. I could never imagine having to deal with a workplace that doesn't allow for water or taking time off when sick or dealing with an emergency.
2:45 my older sister worked at a pizza shop in the late 90’s and something similar happened to her with the pizza dough. The only difference was the pizza shop owners wife ended up getting yelled at by several of the employees
Water story: If you think that’s bad, in the summer of 2023 in Texas, there were a number of construction companies who forbade water unless on break. There have been a few deaths because of this water policy and yet they refuse to change it. That tells you all you need to know about corporate greed.
4th story: I remember when I worked at a Walmart, I was constantly told along with others that we could be replaced, if we didnt like the work that they could find someone else that could do the job and generally used it as a means to bully and demoralize people. I told a lower manager that I was fully versed in psychological warfare and that its a good thing this wasnt the states (Canada) because I dont know what employee would not be tempted to grab a gun, hell it might be a race between employees to find one. There was a meeting of managers for 3 days and an offer to employees to talk to them any time they have a problem and if they can help out any way they will.
Story 4: and you learnt what a union basically is... Story 5: yeah, we had a dress code in a call centre I worked at. It got relaxed quite promptly because most people never followed it due to it being just too hot. It was business casual for Friday and Weekend shifts but quickly got relaxed to business casual for all days and shorts were allowed. there were no incidents, just people not following it and explaining that it was too hot when they came in. Our company was (and still is from what I hear) quite understanding and doesn't enforce bullshit rules unless the rules are mandated by law (some people wanted to work massive back to back shifts and basically end up with an entire week off, but the law in our country got changed to where we couldn't fudge anything to make it possible anymore and that got quite a few employees pissed off)
These stories remind me of the time I walked off a constitution job that my uncle was doing Many Years Ago. My uncle was doing a remodeling job for a old fire station in a historical part of a town. I thought it was going to be my uncle and I doing some stuff with a few guys he know. My uncle just drops me off and tells me that one of the guys there will tell me what to do and he leaves after that. There was like several people I don't know already working. So I did ask them what I need to do. There was someone busting up some old brick pillars they told me to put the bricks in the wheelbarrow and dump them in the construction dump container around the side. Easier said then done. They didn't have no work gloves and where the pillars are at was inside under the floor with lots of dust flying everywhere and I didn't have no kind of mask to wear too. I started doing it and one of the dudes started complaining I wasn't feeling up the wheelbarrow enough but the area I had to go was on a slope and if I filled it up too much it would tip. So I did what he said and filled it up more but then the dude started complaining I wasn't moving fast enough but the wheelbarrow was heavy and like I stated I had to move it across an angled slope. Then the dude busting up the pillars wouldn't completely bust apart the bricks. So there would be multiple brick stuck together still (like 4-5+ bricks). I asked the guy to at least bust up the big ones in half but he didn't. So after about 4 hours of doing that I was at my limit. Finally one of the guys said "alrighty let's take a break". So I thought "yeah I can gain some strength back to go in the rest of the day. Pretty much 5 minutes later after he finishes his smoke the dude said "alright every back to work". So I started back up but I couldn't toss the brick up and over the dump container tall wall anymore. So ask in trying to toss one of those big chunks of bricks that had 4-5 bricks stuck together into the container I couldn't get it to go over. So one of the main guys hung hi head out the window laughing and said "come on dude my d!ck is heavier than that so you should easily be able to toss that over. So I just put it around the side of the container where no one can see and tossed the rest of the bricks in. So I was already at ny limit and they the guy told me to move even faster. So while I was getting another load the whole wheelbarrow tipped over on the skipping hill. I picked them up and dumped them in. So after that I just said "F it!". I went up to the main guy who's just sitting on his butt in the truck and told him "hey the dust in there is bad. So I'm going to step outside for 5 minutes and get some fresh air" lazy dude told me I can do that. So when I stepped outside I casually walked alone the walk around the corner of the building and took off running down the street as fast as I could with what energy I had left. When I couldn't run no more looked around and figure out where I was at. I knew there was a library near by and I walked to it. So I went inside and used the payphone to call my dad and tell him to pick me up. Yes this was back in the day when payphones was still a thing. Man those were the days.
In Fast Food Nation they said the average length of employment for a high schooler is 6 months in a fast food place. The teens like the money, but it’s exhausting. My own experience at a night time McDonald’s as a customer is that work ethic evaporates when management goes home. Further, a young guy who worked computer support for a tv cable company told me that they goofed off when the boss wasn’t around. Any requests to speak to the manager got shunted off to another teen. So. There’s that.
7:16 Back in the managerial portion of my working days I guided myself by this principal: Try to avoid interfering with anyone who is getting the job done.
Story 1 reminded me of something my old job did (before we got rid of the idiot that decided this) We had an operations manager that decided all manner of stupid rules which meant he came up agsint myself and the other union reps on a regular interval as he was literally outting in rules that were illegal, not thet they ever lasted more than an hour, we made his life MISERABLE. He then came up with one that wasnt illegal but should have been. "You cant go to the toilet if someone else from your department is already going, instead your line supervisor has to make a list of what order you are going in". Now where this affected me? I had recently just returned to work from major surgery which destoryed my bladder control I had a note fromnt he hospital sayign that I could be fitted with a personal urine catheter due to infection risk and contanimation risk with food prep. So if I needed to go to the toilet, I couldnt wait, I literally had to go as once my body decided it was time I had 2 mins top to get to the bathroom (whoch was at the other end of the building to me). Ofc we had ccvt everywhere so there was footage of me fast walking to the toilets maybe 15 times a day. He actually tried to write me up for it. So I just grinned and said "Try it, Im in the Union and have amedical reason why this is happening". thank god he got fired for incompetanece later and replaced with a much better manager
I am a doctor. I applaud this doctor’s note(s). I have experienced this problem a lot. There was a daycare that required parents to get a doctor’s note if the child was absent from daycare due to illness. Then that also required a note from the doctor when the child was well enough to return to daycare. This was bad for the parents and me, because I couldn’t write a note unless I had evaluated the child. Therefore I was seeing children with minor illnesses that did not require a doctor’s attention, caused unnecessary expense and inconvenience to the family and added to my already overwhelming work load. I finally called the daycare and explained this to them. I said that it might have seemed to be a good idea to protect the other children, but they never realized what the consequences were for their rules. Had they ever asked a doctor for their opinion on this? No. Luckily for me and my clients, they discontinued this requirement.
So my boss got all upset when I had to call in sick one time. I didn’t know what what going on but I was in serious pain and had gone to the ER in case it was appendicitis. My sister had to go to work for me because my boss has no extra employees. Turns out it was a small kidney stone. It took a solid week for the stone to dissolve where the pain was so much that I had to take constant hot baths and heavy painkillers just to sleep for a bit. My boss was better with the rest of the week but that was also my first time asking for a sick day for that job.
At my current job, we've never needed a Dr's note, but we did have to submit Covid results to return to work after covid. Quick at home test. Photo of negative results on group chat, back to work. I love my job!
I've never worked for a temp agency. Every time I've gone to sign up for one, I've found some kind of procedural nightmare waiting in the paperwork. Like "you have to come to our office on business hours on Tuesday to get paid", which is impossible since _I'd be actually working at that time._ So I've always backed out. Don't sign on to temp agencies. They're great for companies that want to hire expendable workers that they can get rid of risk-free, but terrible for employees.
Story 2: this is why the nurses for my church’s girls camping trip always say “Hydrate, don’t Diedrate.” It’s an extremely memorable phrase, so NONE of us girls forget it. It’s also rather funny. 😆
Story 2: The doctor basically wrote "You're a cruel, heartless POS with zero consideration of the humanity of your employees. I will personally make sure your turnover rate goes high until you change your heart and drop your stupid rule" in the most formal way I could think of. I guess the higher-ups verbally beat the crap out of the boss
The higher-ups were the ones creating the stupid rule. It's apparent that OP's boss wasn't thrilled with the rule either.
AGREE! All heroes don't wear capes. And that employee sure did! Bravo!!!
Pretty sure what company did was illegal too.
Nah, with big companies, the amount of paperwork you have to go through for accommodations can be RIDICULOUS. I'm currently on round #2. And with prior situations, I've had to get hr (written up for a disability I disclosed), ada compliance, and osha involved before. So the current stunts don't scare me. (It's often not as simple as a note. It's forms and charts from company hr for your physician to fill out.)
An assistant manager once tried to write me up for being an hour late from lunch, and as a result we lost a $1000 sale. I told him:
A) Due to treatment for a back injury, I have a MEDICAL ACCOMODATION to take 2 hour lunches, which he should have known;
B) The sale didn't go through because the customer's card was declined, not because I wasn't there;
C) I won't sign this, and I want a meeting with HR.
He seemed shocked. I don't think he knew that was an option.
After the meeting, I received letters of apology from both HR and the store manager. There was no write up. And the assistant manager was fired a month later, so I was ok with that.
Story 4: you shouldn't give an ultimatum if you didn't prepare for the end result
No kidding
It's a general rule that people don't quit bad jobs, they quit bad bosses.
Story 2: Request a written copy of the policy, and then take it to a doctor, a lawyer, OSHA, and the SDL, and then sit back as the company tries to defend violating labor law
What's the SDL?
@@thepretzel2 "State Department of Labor"
Depending on the state, the name may vary.
the company would be f&$ked several times over, especially when it comes to OSHA & State Labor Departments
From some of the other comments, that policy is 100% legal in some states.
Winn Dixie in Florida implemented this policy, was the reason I quit.... I should've checked the labor laws probably to late to do anything
Respect is earned, not taken. It's amazing how my people forget that.
My God, when will idiot bosses realize that their workers are valuable people that they need in order to run a business
These kind of bosses… Never
Yeah, but we’re not. We’re just a number. Expendable and replaceable. Even in medical, LE, and education…
There are three types of workers in most boss’s eyes: the replaceable, the over-engaged, and the integral.
Replaceable, you can find a replacement within 3 weeks. You don’t need them unless you’re so horrible they all quit at once.
Over-engaged do more than their contract requires. It’s harder to replace them unless you hire two or more workers who will do the job for more money as a whole. Try to keep these guys, and make them feel appreciated.
The integral have secret techniques and shortcuts that make your hardest work easy. The best ones when you drop in unannounced can seem lazy, or spending a bunch of time on silly side tasks. _Triple check their value before even considering firing them._ You have no guarantee they’ll train their methods and tricks to their replacements, and hence make you pay through the nose for either manual replacements or the now freelance worker’s contractor wages for the same job.
a-hole boss hates good employee, they only care abut the a-hole employee in same type as them
I worked in a technical job where the boss micromanaged everyone. A co-worker and I refused listen to his crap and because of this our raises were less. He didn’t realize that we were the go to guys when our fellow techs had problems. Upper management knew this but didn’t intervene. Another company was taking over the contract with different equipment and we were both hired by them because of our reputation. The interview was when can you start. The company we quit fired the manager within a week of us quitting. Because of our knowledge of the services we provided on the contract we took over the services about 8 months early so they lost close to $10 million in revenue. They tried to hire me back a few years later but I just laughed.
when the temp agency told them not to ever do it again i would have told them: no i will quit any job thats like that then i will sue you guys for not doing your job to verify the conditions of the workplace
When a boss says “you’re useless and replaceable” it is time to find another job. Because really the boss is only talking out their ass when they act like that and they are only using it as a fear tactic, if you find another job the boss is going to feel like the real idiot because he or she will have to waste more time and money hiring someone else.
With story two, where I live, no company would ever dream of telling an employee not to drink water. In our climate we actively encourage drinking water and tons of businesses make it a habit to offer water as a courtesy. Many of the jobs I've worked in management has gone out of their way to encourage employees to drink more water because they understand dehydrated employees make mistakes and often have to go home.
It doesn't matter where you are now. This summer in Texas, a company who works manual labor outside said no water outside breaks. Well someone ended up dying. They just don't care about anything but money
I think that's because the state passed a law saying they didn't have to provide water anymore. You gotta love a state known for its high temperatures passing a law like that. 🙄
Don't give Jeff Bezos any ideas.
Bosses don't care which is why people get a job but don't put their all into it like they use to.
I worked for Universal Studios Florida back in 2008. I had Type 2 Diabetes. I was also overweight. I was to be working as an outside vendor for a toy that I could "play" with to show it off to customers. I would only be surrounded by other outside vendors. We all just had little kiosks with the toys and register.
No umbrellas to help keep the sun off of us. And no water to drink. Even with a doctor's note. Needless to say I looked for another job.
Story 2: that owner is breaking employment laws. No owner is allowed to refuse access to clean drinking water as that is a human right
From some of the other comments, it sounds like that policy is actually legal in some states.
@@TheAttacker732 I will never understand employment laws over in the USA.
@@thenerdytiger9306It isn't hard to understand, USA laws are designed to maximize corporate profits and minimize worker rights. It really is a third world country in that respect.
@@noseboop4354 That... Is not what 'third world' means. First, second, and third world are just what side everyone was on in the Cold War, and realistically still are on as the Cold War seems to be coming back. First world is US & her allies; second world is China, Russia, & their allies; and third world is unaligned.
It's not a measure of development, it's who's fighting alongside who when the nukes drop and WWIII starts.
@@TheAttacker732 Language evolves with time. Nobody uses 'third world' with that cold war meaning anymore, other than historians.
I worked at Costco in October the year I graduated High School as one of those Sampler people and my boss was a narcissistic witch. I found out that she would hound the newer hires if we were 2 minutes late, yell at us if we didn’t have enough samples out or push the product out (which we did), and talk down to us like we were stupid kids for no reason. She never did it to the older employees, just me (I was 18) and the other younger hires.
One day after my shift she told me to come in 15 minutes early the next day to have a talk with me about my work performance. I arrived two minutes late because it was winter at the time and it had snowed the night before, as soon as she saw me she started yelling at me. She berated me for being ‘late’ and started telling me that I’m 18 years old and should start acting like an adult because I’m not a kid anymore and that she wasn’t my mom (I swear she said that) Finally I got angry and told her ‘You’re right, you’re NOT my mom because MY MOM isn’t a condescending bitch like you!’ She then told me ‘If you don’t like working here then quit’ So I did. I threw my apron and hat on her desk, told her that I quit, grabbed my stuff and left.
1 week later I came in to get my last paycheck and found out that she was fired because of her horrible attitude towards the younger hires. According to my former colleagues apparently me quitting was the final strike against her. I never saw her again.
They did offer me my position back if I needed work but I turned it down because I had signed up for Job Corps.
Wow!! I thought for sure that the younger hires would go to the older hires for advice or at least ask them to step in.
But good for you.
Just curious: after you quit, how many of the young hires follow suit?
@@Rylosalex They did but it didn’t really do any good. If anything it made it worse.
Thank you.
They all did shortly after I did and apparently they all filed complaints against her. I didn’t have to because I got a call from the boss above my boss asking why I quit (I don’t know if that’s normal) and I told them what happened between me and her.
@@tmntfangirl4700 Bet boss lady was dumbfounded when she got fired.
I am also a TMNT fan as well. Grew up with the 80's TMNT with my 2 little brothers. I loved 2003 TMNT and adore 2012 TMNT.
@@Rylosalex Probably, sadly I’ll never know.
Me too. I grew up with the 80’s series with an older brother. The 2003 reignited my love for TMNT in my senior year of high school and I found the 2012 series to be cool and cute too. So who’s your favorite turtle? Mine’s Mikey, then Leo, then Donnie and Raph.
@@tmntfangirl4700
Mikey, Leo and Splinter
Have you watched any of the movies? Then and now?
1. Boss or not, grab my arm like that and I'm dropping your ass right there. That or I'm faking a fall, getting injured and suing.
2. WalMart used to tell cashiers that they couldn't have water at the register. I told them to piss off, I'm diabetic, I'm on medications that make me thirsty, deal. No one ever asked me for a dr note.
Dress Code related malicious compliance always leads to great stories as people find the most ridiculous outfit that still perfectly fits in it.
Story 4: I had a boss that loved to say that to me. Shame Helluva Boss didn't exist back then, because I would have blasted "2 minute notice" on a locked computer at full volume and discretely disconnected the keyboard and mouse as I walked out the door. You don't treat employees like that. We're people, and we have self-respect.
I'd rather work for Blitzø than a Karen.
Yeah most companies at least actively discourage or outright mock employees for drinking water. I was pregnant and having done research knew it was dangerous to my baby if I didn't drink about a gallon a day. Literally every manager made snide remarks about it, especially every time I had to go to the bathroom. But joke's on them. I had a healthy baby boy and quit halfway through my leave.
Story 4: Worked at a factory for a company that makes hoses. Made friends with fellow coworkers but was not treated as a human being by the management. I was a temp so they didn't care about me.
1. Had a rule you couldn't go on lunch unless you were told to. Kept forgetting about me.
2. Under no circumstances is the line to be shut down even if one of the machines is malfunctioning, so it's your job to coil thousands of yards of hose on the floor until the problem gets fixed. Those things are heavy and I'm not a superhuman so I can't do that for hours on end without breaks.
3. They were EXTREMELY strict about clock in and clock out times being on the exact minute or you would be reprimanded.
One day I was working the entire line by myself. My main job was to package the product and stack it correctly based on size, then push it to the back to be inspected. My speed had greatly improved in the 2 months I had been working there but I knew well enough not to compromise quality for speed. Naturally I can't work as fast as two or three people so I'm given help for like 5 minutes and they do a really crappy job at packaging and stacking so while I was glad of the help I was also frustrated knowing I would have to fix their work. But then there was a problem on the line and I had to stop packaging and start coiling. But no one is coming to help me or fix the problem on the line. Managers are literally just standing around talking as if it isn't happening while I'm breaking my arms and trying not to trip on colied line.
Later, I'm literally screaming for help and the managers in charge were still ignoring me. When I was finally allowed to go on lunch two hours late I was contemplating quitting, but some food and rest cooled my head. Going back in was my biggest mistake though because a manager screamed at me about what an awful job "my" packing and stacking was. I would personally have to bust open and re pack and re stack every single pallet that had been done on my line. All while meeting my quota for what was still coming down the line. I was STILL BY MYSELF. That's when I started crying and they started mocking me. Then the same machine error happened again and I was coiling the rest of the shift. Still nobody had come to help, and even the bosses who were previously standing around unconcerned were gone. So I watched the clock and when it was exactly time for me to leave I ducked under the line an got out of there.
I received a phone call the next day from the temp agency and they said they didn't care to hear what had happened but since I left without being dismissed I had effectively quit. I tried to explain what happened but they didn't want to hear it. I told them I left when my shift ended and tried to get someone's attention but was told it didn't matter.
TL;DR Two months working at a factory I was fired for busting my ass trying to run an entire line of product by myself and not making quota shen the machines were broken with nobody to come fix them.
In case you are curious that company was Rain Bird. I don't care who knows that they treat their employees like shit.
You so totally did that wrong. Should have waited till end of leave. Two weeks before first day back would have been perfect. Otherwise you could gave lost being oaid t8ll end of leave.
@@bruceearl9686 I live in the US. You don't get paid for FMLA leave, and don't get any paid time off unless you are full time for at least a year. Only managers work full time, they don't let anyone else get enough hours. Also employees didn't get any raise or Christmas bonus last year because the CEO thought the money was better spent on a week long corporate trip.
Years ago I worked at a craft store, one that tends to employee a lot of older women. One day I got my lip pierced, I had a thin silver hoop going through the center of my lower lip. I got to work and my store manager noticed but didn't say anything. She knew I was a hard worker and it wouldn't affect my performance whatsoever. Months go by without a single customer complaint but then one day the regional manager comes for his annual visit. The moment he saw me he said "No. That has to go." My manager pointed out to him that there was nothing in the dress code about piercings. He fumed but left me alone. Then a few weeks later we received an updated employee handbook, even though it was rarely updated. Under the dress code it said no piercings or tattoos. All the other employees were livid because every one of them had their ears pierced. Now they only had single holes in each ear and tended to wear studs or small hoops but still, telling an employee at a freaking craft store that they couldn't wear any earrings was ridiculous. Everyone at my location, and I'm assuming many others, complained so much to corporate that they edited it to specify facial piercings, My store manager still didn't make me remove mine because she thought the rule was stupid. But yeah, if anyone worked at Joann Fabrics after 2004 and that rule was still in the handbook it's my fault.
Last Story - Well done OP! I myself would’ve loved to have seen this kilt that OP bought!😂😂😂😂
I imagine OP cosplaying as Astolfo from the FATE franchise. 😉 💅
My father was an air traffic controller for many years. As you can imagine, a lot of policies changed around 2002. A lot made sense given the temperature of the world, but in ‘06 a rule was added that they had to follow a dress code of khaki pants and a button up shirt. They asked why and were told to look more professional. That is ridiculous because it’s a federal crime to get where you can see an air traffic controller while he’s working without going through three security checkpoints minimum.
Anyway, one day a controller wore a pair of Dickey’s khakis. He was told these did not go with the spirit of the dress code and that he was not allowed to wear them. The message went out that Dickey’s weren’t allowed. But the FAA didn’t count on two things. One, Dickey’s makes political contributions. Two, a controller in the system knew Dickey’s CEO. After a few phone calls were made, a new memo went out that said, not only are Dickey’s allowed, but their clothing was part of the consideration for the new dress code. The controllers’ response was if they’re going to be this stupid about it, we’ll give them Dickey’s til they come out of their ears. Each controller went out and bought at least five outfits of Dickey’s pants and shirts and most wore exclusively those until the dress code was relaxed five years later.
What is Dickey's khakis?
@@gorilladisco9108 I do not know either, but I was hoping they are in very non-camo colours.
Apparently, Dickie's are a clothing brand famous for what is known as the 874 working pants, which have been a firm favorite of over 50 years for being versatile, comfortable, and durable. So much so that the Dickie's brand became the general name for those style of pants, like q-tip instead of cotton swab.@@gorilladisco9108
@@gorilladisco9108 After a small amount of googling I found they look like completly normal pants, mostly beige. I expected "Dickey's" to make some sort of silly pants with cartoon characters based on the story, but they're just regular pants.
HA!! "Till dickie's coming out of their ears" I love it.
Story 5: I wish there was a picture of the boss’s face when they saw OP walked in wearing a kilt and after reading the entire dress code, realized there was nothing they could do
It was probably distracting for the ladies, actually. There's just something about a man in a kilt....
@@user-kl8lo6rj5i this is true. I remember a former coworker who once wore a kilt to work. All the women said he had nice legs. And some of them were even giving him “that look”
My husband looks like Santa and he's got 3 kilts. We actually did our renewal marriage ceremony with him and our then-7 year old grandson in matching ones that I made. I LOVE him in his kilts, and quite frankly, if he could, he would wear them everywhere. I've actually thought about making him a Santa version with the red/green plaid and having it available for our nights out to restaurants, etc. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. that's an idea.
@@user-kl8lo6rj5iespecially if the guy in the kilt has long hair and a rugged beard.
And yes I'm speaking from experience lol
A few years ago we knew a mature woman who worked at a famous Canadian doughnut shop chain. The franchise owners put their son in charge of the shop, one of his rules was no bathroom breaks unless you are at lunch or scheduled break. Most of the employees were adults in their late forties to mid fifties, this didn't go down well, consequently the day shift at the shop was always short staffed as most of the employees quit.
Story 1: Since the OP was in High School he was possibly still a minor . So laying hands on him is a no no . 2: There is a good probability there are cameras in the restaurant so the manager/owner knew that if she tried to use the camera footage against the op for squirting the mustard and ketchup on her it could be turned around on her for assaulting a minor.
I took a second, part-time job as a security guard at a women's college. They provided uniforms (all polyester) and even paid when you took them to a particular cleaner. There were both long- and short-sleeved shirts, but just long pants. Over the years, they had accumulated quite a few extra uniforms. I found a pair of pants that had started to wear out. I made them into shorts, using the material to cover the worn spots. It was a good tailoring job. I wore them on hot days, and no one said a word. Two factors may have been in play: the college had a fashion design program, and I was only 40ish and had good legs.
Story 4: "Please don't do that again." Then don't send people to work for someone who is breaking the law, dishing out threats, and is clearly NOT a good boss. Frankly, that temp agency was lucky they didn't get in trouble too. They are REQUIRED to check on things like this. They could be hit with MASSIVE osha fines for their incompetency.
Story 1 - If that lady, boss or not, had grabbed me like that she’d get more than getting ketchup and mustard squirted on her.
I would have taken the hand that she used, and dipped it into the fryer oil.
Story 1: The Karen Boss should have realized that if all of the Fryer Baskets were full, then she ordered him to make too many fries.
"It ain't MY fault that Scott overflowed the basket of fries even though I told him to load as many fries as possible"
Because the dude snapped and sprayed her with condiments, she's never going to realize that it's her fault 100%. She'll act like a victim
Or maybe she did after everyone else chewed her out
He put fries down every time she told him to. It's her fault for not telling him how many
I worked at a McDonald’s in 85 (I think 🤔 ) my job was fry’s one morning my shift boss caught me before work asked me if I wanted to smoke some weed we got stoned went to work an hour later still baked out of my mind cooking and munching frys manager came in caught me eating while working put what I cooked in a bag and fired me . LAMO 😂😅 All I could think was I get to keep ALL THESE FRYS while I hitch hiked home 😂😅
@@joseHernandez-xc4ix Wonder what happened to the Owner...?
How did Nuberus put it (even as so many Karen bosses forget)? "The Emperor does have more rice, but does he *grow* the rice? Does he *gather* the rice or *cook* it? No. The foolish emperor comes to expect the rice, regardless of what he does. (Accusing the Vampirella villain of doing likewise) Does the farmer whose crops are burned or whose family is slaughtered give rice. No, if you would have rice, then you must never forget the farmers." Karen bosses always forget... because they are crazy.
As another "Night shift" employee, literally the best part of my job is how rare it is I see any employee outranking me
The dude breaking packages to get them to fit deserves to have his ass sued.
I love an MD who has their patient’s back, especially one who will write a letter which sheds light on abusive practices in the workplace, make the manager look like an ass, on demand.
I'm shocked the agency sided with the employee. They have NEVER done that for me or anyone I knew.
Depending on country, the agency could be looking at legal or financial trouble if the place they were sending temps really had that many safety violations.
Agency is a legal pimp for non-sex worker. 😅
Story 4 - Hey Op and the other coworkers just did what the AH boss told them to do. It’s his own fault that the work didn’t get done.
That last guy should have also brought a set of bagpipes.
I love the “they can’t stop us all” moments
Story 4: While it's not clear what country this takes place in, if it was the US you can bet I'd be reporting that company to OSHA as soon as I quit, pinning the blame squarely on that manager.
Worked for a veterinary office. The owner started on about how lazy everyone was, while we were busting our asses to get the accreditation she wanted by the end of the year.
Finally got it and we thought she might relax, but she just became even more of a petty tyrant.
Over the next couple months she lost all her veteran staff who had been at that clinic for years.
What a-hole monster prohibits their employees to drink water?
Texas, AKA The Yelp Review State (One star; would not recommend)
Surprisingly a lot of places try to ban all beverages from cash registers because they have a overactive fear of if the tiniest bit of moisture gets on the register the whole system will go down you know instead of just buying POS POSs actually investing in some decent one and decent cable management
Probably a lot of them. I worked for a place like that. Everything we did to try to stay hydrated got shot down. Miserable working environment.
A capitalist or feudalist. Gotta keep the workers in their place after all.
@@ericdugdale8585 One of the many reasons why I'm a communist.
Story 5: OP should have made a Formal Complaint to human resources for the blatant harassment and demanded boss take anger management classes.
Water Story: The moment I heard the No Water Rule, I'd be calling the State Department of Labor and ask them if that Rule was Legal...
If it wasn't, then I'd ask them to send that to me in writing and when Boss Bitched about my people having water at their station, I'd simply hand him the DoL Rule showing that he can't Legally ban it and I'm NOT going to Violate State Labor Law for him...
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Did that once. My boss was trying to violate a customer privacy policy insisting it was fine. I just called a lawyer, get a copy of the article of the law and send it to my boss with my 2 weeks notice since it wasn't the only crappy incident. I will always remember her shocked face
I live in Arizona and I used worked at a major national grocery store that starts with an S, you do the math. Anyway they also have the stupid rule about drinks at the register. When they first implemented this rule and started to enforce it, we all simply turned to our managers and said "you do realize that Arizona State law specifically states that you cannot deny someone water at any point for any reason". Well, next thing we know that rule had been changed to state that water in a container that could be sealed/closed would be allowed. Someone hadn't done their homework before completely banning something and making a new rule, sad when the employee's have more knowledge than the big bosses do!
BK story: Very lucky she didn't wind up face first in the fryer oil.
Water story: I do have to wonder how much business that pharmacy lost over that.
I wonder how long it took to ban kilts?
The warehouse boss may have been taught a lesson when all 10 workers walked out, but did he actually LEARN from it? Probably not.
Recently, a Taylor Swift show was postponed because a fan died because of the heat, because people weren't allowed to bring their own water and couldn't buy any inside the venue.
Dehydration and heat stroke are serious business. Stay hydrated.
Oh, my gosh....I wonder if that rule was retracted after that incident.
Taylor Swift go to jail.
@@SLOTHSRIDEUNICORNS Much as I don't like Taylor, that's completely the venue's fault, not hers. They set these bogus rules to try and rake even more money from people, not understanding water is, ya know, a basic requirement for the human body to function.
@@StealthTheFoxzI'd simply stand there. Ask for my money back. Or lawsuit :D
I will never understand why so many bosses assume that you're blowing off work when you're sick or that you must have been up all night partying if you're not sleeping well. I'm one of those employees who always works her shift, (I can't afford not to) but the few times I've been sick, I must be faking, so I'm always required to get a Doctor's note, despite our own 2 day policy.
I love that the doctor covered the rest of the team and future people.
Story 2: in Portland the bus company decided one year during a heat wave that the bus drivers shouldn't have more bathroom breaks than at the end of the route. This meant less beverage intake during a heat wave. Needless to say that policy didn't last long.
The asshóle in story 4 was SEVERELY abusing his employees!!! Why the feck did they just take it so long?!?!
During my Uni classes, we studied different management styles, and the course material was a book highlighting good vs. bad management. The book is basically a how-to on malicious compliance.
Example: management wants us to wear full business suits, tie and all, instead of the casual we've been wearing so far? OK then. Everyone goes to their local second-hand/thrift store to buy the most hideous, 70s/80s style ties and mismatched jackets. We all looked like clowns with wide ties and big colar jackets. That rule lasted about 24h.
A great quote from said book:
"Our bosses are like seagulls. They fly in from up high, make a lot of noise, leave a big pile of shit everywhere, then fly off again" - Nurse at a hospital
The "No water on the sales floor or for cashiers" is fairly common in my experience.
I worked at one crafts store where a co-worker was VERY obviously pregnant, but she still had to have a doctor's note.
Another crafts store job straight up said it was "Unprofessional" for cashiers to have water at their station, and restricted what they would accept a doctor's note for (basically, no notes about water "Just because", it had to have a valid medical reason).
An uncle who works at Wal-Mart said they can't have water either. (Save for the people getting carts.)
When I worked at a local sandwich shop and at a regional pharmacy chain, they both not only allowed water, but encouraged it. We had to have our drinks on a back counter at the sandwich shop and we were trusted to be responsible about when we stepped away to get a drink (such as during a lull in customers).
I relate to that last story, a manager at my last job bet I wouldn’t wear a kilt at work; I proceeded to wear one for the remainder of my 5 years at that company; and got the dress code to specifically allow kilts.
I worked as a manager/owner for over 20 years and the thing that I learned was you treat your employees better than family and they stick around
Story 4: You can tell when the only thing a manager, boss, higher-up, etc. cares about is their bottom line.
Everyone else is beneath them, lowly people to bully and call "replaceable" should they have even the most minor complaint.
And I don't know what the boss was expecting with the whole "If you're not happy, then leave!" comment. Like, everyone has the choice to quit, you can't take that choice away.
The fantastic 10, all walking out, thats funny, mutual respect is everything in the work place...
I had to deal with no drinks at the register when I worked for Walmart. I take allergy pills several times a day and got really dry mouth. I got a note from doc, and as long as it was in a closed bottle, I was okay. About 5 years after I left, all cashiers had drinks at their registers. My mom would go, "you can have drinks at the register? You should thanky daughter." She didn't say it rude or Karen-like. It was just a comment.
Keeping people from drinking water is probably also illegal.
That french fry story makes me think of something I've seen in a lot of disaster movies, especially ones about earthquakes hit and there's a lot of shaking. You see a kitchen with the cook rolling around on the ground screaming and on fire.
Woohoo a lazy afternoon and a new Dark Fluff video.
I'd bet the bosses in story 4 think they are giving people a "great opportunity" and everyone is ungrateful/lazy
2nd story STILL mind boggles me, being that these people could be wide open for a lawsuit for even believing such a rule of having no water is even legal to be put in.
Story 4 If those managers worked at a company in New Zealand, they forced somebody to carry something that the person couldn’t carry, the person got injured, through no fault of their own. It would come back on the manager, the owner of the company and the managers manager. All three would most likely be fined for not following health and safety rules. Also given a warning, saying if it happens again Harsha penalties. If it happens a third time, Work, safe will close it down.
Employees are replacable, but so are employers and even entire companies in most siturations. People really need to start thinking of the bigger picture rather than staying in their own little bubble.
I get migraines on my period where my eyes are very sensitive and occasionally need to wear dark sunglasses. Usually maybe 2 - 3 days where I could stay home or work with glasses. I always explain to my customers, never had any complain. But new supervisor had to give me a hard time. I had to get a note from my doctor and still had to go to HR to get the jerk off my back. I finally told HR, they could get him to leave me alone or my doctor said he would be happy to bill them when he had to appear in court in the unfair labor practices lawsuit I would file.
Story 2 was brilliant malicious compliance, need a doctor's note for a basic human neccessity? fine, give everyone a doctor's note!
Oh my god, that last story, I saw something similar! I went to a place that was pretty formal, and there was one guy in a bright pink suit, magenta tie and everything (he looked great, but that’s besides the point). I was curious about his outfit, and he just joked that “I’m sticking it to my boss. I wanted to wear a plaid jacket, and he said ‘only solid colors’.” I laughed, and complimented his outfit again.
How did the boss get into a position of authority despite lacking basic knowledge like "Humans need water"? I guess his skillset begins and ends with "Advanced Butt-Kissing."
Story 1 - Don't attack people next to 350F degree oil. It takes one bad decision from either to do something horrifying.
Thankful for you guys❤
what i find funny about story 2, is the fact the higher ups thought it was perfectly reasonable to basically make working in the pharmacy as misurible as possible. it reminds me of when i worked at waffle house (for context, im basically 6 foot 6 inches tall, and i beat my lower back as a kid during my autistic outbursts, so if i bend over for long periods of time i have to sit down as it starts being very painful), i asked if i could have a chair to sit down in as im in pain, and they were like "nope! get a doctors note!". after finding out that the only thing they do during robberies or other criminal actions is "cameras and law enforcement" and "its a firable offense to defend the store", and the fact some of the coworkers were toxic while i worked there one day, after bout 4 days i basically quiet quit, as i would have to get on either a massage chair, or painkillers before i even drove, i would be constantly worried about my own safety, and i would be constantly on alert for any toxic coworkers that wants to pick a fight with me for no reason.
so yea, not about that shit.
You cannot drink water? How can that rule be legal.
"Treat people with respect, and they will respect you."
I wish that were true more often. They treated A-hole boss with respect, and were treated like crap. Yall, if you're ever in a situation like that (personally or professionally), LEAVE. You deserve better, and you can HAVE better. A classic trick of abusive people is to convince their victims there's no better option. That's simply not true.
Speaking from personal experience in both aspects. I am much happier now. I wish the same for you, dear reader.
I'm grateful for compassionate and understanding employers at my two jobs. I could never imagine having to deal with a workplace that doesn't allow for water or taking time off when sick or dealing with an emergency.
Yells "don't forget you're all replaceable!" Then, hopefully, proceeds to get replaced by the larger company.
It seems bosses like to take advantage of the best employees, it's a bad idea of course but, it's what they do...
All great stories!! Thank you. (Gotta love malicious compliances)
2:45 my older sister worked at a pizza shop in the late 90’s and something similar happened to her with the pizza dough. The only difference was the pizza shop owners wife ended up getting yelled at by several of the employees
People don't quit jobs, they quit bad bosses.
Water story:
If you think that’s bad, in the summer of 2023 in Texas, there were a number of construction companies who forbade water unless on break. There have been a few deaths because of this water policy and yet they refuse to change it. That tells you all you need to know about corporate greed.
"IT'S A KILT, NOT A DRESS!" Everybody knows a real man wears a KILT, no matter how pink it is! XD
"It's not a dress, it's a kilt! Sicko!" -The Grinch
4th story: I remember when I worked at a Walmart, I was constantly told along with others that we could be replaced, if we didnt like the work that they could find someone else that could do the job and generally used it as a means to bully and demoralize people. I told a lower manager that I was fully versed in psychological warfare and that its a good thing this wasnt the states (Canada) because I dont know what employee would not be tempted to grab a gun, hell it might be a race between employees to find one. There was a meeting of managers for 3 days and an offer to employees to talk to them any time they have a problem and if they can help out any way they will.
Story 4: and you learnt what a union basically is...
Story 5: yeah, we had a dress code in a call centre I worked at. It got relaxed quite promptly because most people never followed it due to it being just too hot. It was business casual for Friday and Weekend shifts but quickly got relaxed to business casual for all days and shorts were allowed. there were no incidents, just people not following it and explaining that it was too hot when they came in. Our company was (and still is from what I hear) quite understanding and doesn't enforce bullshit rules unless the rules are mandated by law (some people wanted to work massive back to back shifts and basically end up with an entire week off, but the law in our country got changed to where we couldn't fudge anything to make it possible anymore and that got quite a few employees pissed off)
These stories remind me of the time I walked off a constitution job that my uncle was doing Many Years Ago. My uncle was doing a remodeling job for a old fire station in a historical part of a town. I thought it was going to be my uncle and I doing some stuff with a few guys he know. My uncle just drops me off and tells me that one of the guys there will tell me what to do and he leaves after that. There was like several people I don't know already working. So I did ask them what I need to do. There was someone busting up some old brick pillars they told me to put the bricks in the wheelbarrow and dump them in the construction dump container around the side. Easier said then done. They didn't have no work gloves and where the pillars are at was inside under the floor with lots of dust flying everywhere and I didn't have no kind of mask to wear too. I started doing it and one of the dudes started complaining I wasn't feeling up the wheelbarrow enough but the area I had to go was on a slope and if I filled it up too much it would tip. So I did what he said and filled it up more but then the dude started complaining I wasn't moving fast enough but the wheelbarrow was heavy and like I stated I had to move it across an angled slope. Then the dude busting up the pillars wouldn't completely bust apart the bricks. So there would be multiple brick stuck together still (like 4-5+ bricks). I asked the guy to at least bust up the big ones in half but he didn't. So after about 4 hours of doing that I was at my limit. Finally one of the guys said "alrighty let's take a break". So I thought "yeah I can gain some strength back to go in the rest of the day. Pretty much 5 minutes later after he finishes his smoke the dude said "alright every back to work".
So I started back up but I couldn't toss the brick up and over the dump container tall wall anymore. So ask in trying to toss one of those big chunks of bricks that had 4-5 bricks stuck together into the container I couldn't get it to go over. So one of the main guys hung hi head out the window laughing and said "come on dude my d!ck is heavier than that so you should easily be able to toss that over. So I just put it around the side of the container where no one can see and tossed the rest of the bricks in. So I was already at ny limit and they the guy told me to move even faster. So while I was getting another load the whole wheelbarrow tipped over on the skipping hill. I picked them up and dumped them in. So after that I just said "F it!". I went up to the main guy who's just sitting on his butt in the truck and told him "hey the dust in there is bad. So I'm going to step outside for 5 minutes and get some fresh air" lazy dude told me I can do that. So when I stepped outside I casually walked alone the walk around the corner of the building and took off running down the street as fast as I could with what energy I had left. When I couldn't run no more looked around and figure out where I was at. I knew there was a library near by and I walked to it. So I went inside and used the payphone to call my dad and tell him to pick me up. Yes this was back in the day when payphones was still a thing. Man those were the days.
Last story! 😂😂😂 Love a pink kilt moment
Scottish Ken and Barbie!
In Fast Food Nation they said the average length of employment for a high schooler is 6 months in a fast food place. The teens like the money, but it’s exhausting.
My own experience at a night time McDonald’s as a customer is that work ethic evaporates when management goes home.
Further, a young guy who worked computer support for a tv cable company told me that they goofed off when the boss wasn’t around. Any requests to speak to the manager got shunted off to another teen.
So. There’s that.
How dare OP#3 get sick! You're supposed to be a super human!
Happy Sunday all, hope you had/are having a blessed day.
I'm late to this one but the doctor's note is 100% something I would do, I love mixing justice, equity and malicious compliance together.
7:16 Back in the managerial portion of my working days I guided myself by this principal: Try to avoid interfering with anyone who is getting the job done.
Story 1 reminded me of something my old job did (before we got rid of the idiot that decided this)
We had an operations manager that decided all manner of stupid rules which meant he came up agsint myself and the other union reps on a regular interval as he was literally outting in rules that were illegal, not thet they ever lasted more than an hour, we made his life MISERABLE.
He then came up with one that wasnt illegal but should have been. "You cant go to the toilet if someone else from your department is already going, instead your line supervisor has to make a list of what order you are going in".
Now where this affected me? I had recently just returned to work from major surgery which destoryed my bladder control I had a note fromnt he hospital sayign that I could be fitted with a personal urine catheter due to infection risk and contanimation risk with food prep. So if I needed to go to the toilet, I couldnt wait, I literally had to go as once my body decided it was time I had 2 mins top to get to the bathroom (whoch was at the other end of the building to me). Ofc we had ccvt everywhere so there was footage of me fast walking to the toilets maybe 15 times a day. He actually tried to write me up for it. So I just grinned and said "Try it, Im in the Union and have amedical reason why this is happening".
thank god he got fired for incompetanece later and replaced with a much better manager
Story 4: Yikes! I'm surprised that all workers didn't all walk out way earlier
7 seconds with an, "Ooh! Hi, friends!" excitedly said out loud and I'm here. Let's go!!
I am a doctor. I applaud this doctor’s note(s). I have experienced this problem a lot. There was a daycare that required parents to get a doctor’s note if the child was absent from daycare due to illness. Then that also required a note from the doctor when the child was well enough to return to daycare. This was bad for the parents and me, because I couldn’t write a note unless I had evaluated the child. Therefore I was seeing children with minor illnesses that did not require a doctor’s attention, caused unnecessary expense and inconvenience to the family and added to my already overwhelming work load. I finally called the daycare and explained this to them. I said that it might have seemed to be a good idea to protect the other children, but they never realized what the consequences were for their rules. Had they ever asked a doctor for their opinion on this? No. Luckily for me and my clients, they discontinued this requirement.
So my boss got all upset when I had to call in sick one time. I didn’t know what what going on but I was in serious pain and had gone to the ER in case it was appendicitis. My sister had to go to work for me because my boss has no extra employees. Turns out it was a small kidney stone. It took a solid week for the stone to dissolve where the pain was so much that I had to take constant hot baths and heavy painkillers just to sleep for a bit. My boss was better with the rest of the week but that was also my first time asking for a sick day for that job.
At my current job, we've never needed a Dr's note, but we did have to submit Covid results to return to work after covid. Quick at home test. Photo of negative results on group chat, back to work. I love my job!
That last one is such a classic school uniform protest
I've never worked for a temp agency. Every time I've gone to sign up for one, I've found some kind of procedural nightmare waiting in the paperwork. Like "you have to come to our office on business hours on Tuesday to get paid", which is impossible since _I'd be actually working at that time._ So I've always backed out. Don't sign on to temp agencies. They're great for companies that want to hire expendable workers that they can get rid of risk-free, but terrible for employees.
I love it when the doctor just says f this business
Story 2 sounds like the job I just left. We had that rule, but anyone that wasn't management ignored it.
People don`t quit jobs, they quit bad management
Stories by my Fluffy Boi! Best way to spend a rainy day.
Story 2: this is why the nurses for my church’s girls camping trip always say “Hydrate, don’t Diedrate.” It’s an extremely memorable phrase, so NONE of us girls forget it. It’s also rather funny. 😆