Hmmm. But, OP wasn't right, and his son never truly gave himself up. OP was determined to control his son--using emotional and physical abuse--rather than loving the son he had. I think we're coming at this from the same side. I have seen this happen to people I love. I've been there in the aftermath. The survivors carry deep scars, at best. Many of them never fully heal. It breaks my heart and makes me absolutely furious.
@@katie6731 I took it as him believing without a doubt he was right, not that he actually was, which is usually worse because people like that are often more die-hard over it and want to force everyone to see it that way because to them it's just not possible that they're wrong, everyone else is wrong of course. Which sounds in line close to what you said, so I definitely think we're all on the same page
People like the OP in story 2 don't change or feel bad about their actions at all. I would know because I'm related to several and not one of them has changed.
You wouldn’t know because you only know within your own scope. Change is possible. Whether you choose to forgive them even after they’ve made genuine change is a different issue: genuine change does not equal forgiveness. And the ones that can’t accept that really haven’t changed to their core. But to say no one like this really changes just writes off the fundamental concept of self-improvement.
@@juliearmfield2634true before I was this training pastor who hated everything about the world because it was sinful now this gay apatheist could give two flips what those bigoted good-for-nothing naysayers have to say.
It does not change the fact OP was fishing for sympathy in his post. Nor does it change the fact he is "sorry" now, because he is all alone after came after his wife. @@juliearmfield2634
Story 2: it funny how OP suddenly feels regret, after realizing he is all alone and there is no one to take care of him now that he is old. He says he not looking for "sympathy", yet it obvious he is fishing for it in this post. Part of me want to think this is fake but if true, then I really hope OP never finds the peace he wants, cause he does not deserve it He is a failure of parent.
Honestly, I believe its true cause my dad also thought he could "fix" my gayness and was shocked that I completely shut down on him and left the first chance I got
Nah it seems to pathetic and whinny to be fake. This is how it often goes sadly I’ve seen something like this happen and yeah after the damage is done and they are forced to face the consequences of their actions they try to downplay and reflect kind of. Notice how he still tries Tod own play how bad it likely was.
Story 1: Nope. 4 years is a long time to be searching the streets. Story 2: OP is not looking for his son because he doesn't want to face the real consequences of his actions.
Well, if it isn't the consequences of your actions? You could always go to a nursing home, but no guarantee you won't be treated the same way, if not worse, than what you did to your son. I don't know what's going to happen to him, and I really don't care.
#1: OP was paying for everything. She got back in shape, got employed again, and then said, "I settled for you and want an open relationship." before divorcing OP. *Four years later...* Him: "Do you remember when you left me?" Her: "yeah." Him: "So do I." *Blocked*
S2: OP essentially spouted a bunch of BS. He is not sorry. He’s trying to stealthily garner sympathy, as if what he did was not a big deal. There’s a special place in h*ll for him.
You can't amend your credit record, but you *can* add a note to your file stating that the lawsuit was due to identity theft. Companies aren't required to take that into account, but most do.
OP 2 and his wife are terrible parents. Their son could have been SA, SA and get pregnant if he was born as a girl, human trafficked (sex as well), doing drugs, experiencing depression, making bad decisions, doesn’t have a job or money, etc. and their son was a minor. All they wanted was control.
Story 1: Go no contact with your ex-wife; Emma! She can't be trusted because of how she treated you! Do not meet up with her! You owe her nothing! Leave the past in the past!
S2: Both OP and his wife were a pos. Mom only regretted it because she wants to go out with a clean conscience which didnt happen. OP is now alone forever.
Story 2: OP and his wife are awful parents! They alienated their son! What you did was abuse when you would not allow him to grow his hair long and when he said that it was his hair; you could not leave well enough alone and forced him into a chair and shaved his head without his permission and then you had the nerve to make him clean that up! What you did is considered an assault! You should have cleaned up the mess! You were absolutely awful for making your son leave but I am glad that he did because he is better off away from you too! The son was mentally checked out after the way the parents treated him!
Story 2: They pushed their son away and abused/ punished him for being gay. They made damn sure he never felt safe in their home. He’s not sorry. People like him never are. They made their choices now they get to live with it.
Chances are that it is legit. There are many "parents" out there that have reacted the same way or worse to their kid coming out as a member of the LGBTQ community.
Best case scenario, it's ragebait. Worst case scenario, he deluded himself into believing his son is partially at fault, because "maybe if he had yelled back, I wouldn't have continued to abuse him and kicked him out of the only home he'd ever had." So either ragebait or a pity party
1) the fact she change for someone else and not you shoud have been a red flag, also 4 year? to self reflect more like be on the streets, she was probably having an emotional affair, im glad you moved on and i know you will find happiness afterall she still wants you theres something worth begginf for right? 2)YTA what the hell did you think would happen? no only you broke him emotionally but also through out all the things wasting his money too? and when he decided to emotionally and physically withdraw from interacting with you? that didn't concern you? also i think the friends and neighbours knew what you did was wrong but didn't bother involving you in their lives or show anycare? the reason they were being yes poeple was becuase they knew nothing would get into your head. 3)NTA this is your future, he was actively ruining and he knew it you need to sue for identity fraud
OP2 is only sorry because he no longer has anyone to take care of him. Serves him right. Be good to your children if you want them to be good to you when you can no longer take care of yourself. Sadly, the we don’t even know if the son is still alive, which certainly doesn’t look good for OP and is also a tragedy. OP3: We don’t know what happened to the dad. Please tell me he’s in prison.
Story 1: She was cheating. The late nights, the dismissiveness, tye fact she didn't care for her husband at alk anymore I dont know how he didn't see it
Story 2, you know people like op dont care about their kids they just are selfish. Why would god gay people on Earth if not to show what love is in all forms? i dont care what people think it is love, and they need to wrap their heads around that. I think his son is not mad but disappointed in his father. i mean a little anger, but at the end of the day, anger is not it just pity for op and disqust
Holy shit everyone really hates OP from story 2 and like, I get it but damn guys, I don't think yall quite get what he will put himself through until the day he dies. And I'm sure one day the kid will regret not getting to talk to his mother before she died, one day. That's just one of the things about regret. All i heard was oain in the story and although i feel the worst for the kid obviously, I still feel like more suffering just...isn't right. I hope they speak one day, though I inow its too late for that. The father is probably doing what's best by no longer seeking out his son. It may hurt him to know his mother died like that, missing him and regretting their actions.
I highly doubt anyone abused will regret not speaking to their abuser. They should have thought about the long-term consequences BEFORE they acted! It's no different than driving drunk, killing someone, and then bragging you completed a recovery program. If he gets that much hate, it is because he has EARNED that.
@ but that’s not him being trans, that just him being gay. There’s a Steve Wilkos episode where a gay dude got accused of touching his friend’s daughter and that dude was hella feminine, it’s called “Why were you in my daughter’s bed?” Plus there is a musician named Big Freedia, who is an openly gay man and is super feminine too.
IN IRL story 2 NO FATHER WOULD REGRET WHO IS CAPABLE OF MAKING SUCH STRONG DECISIONS......its AI ppl it panders to the panderpeople.I would gladly disown any such abomination.Yes if he refused to see reason if its sa or trafficking or all the BS he made his bed he chose what delusions he got over what we have taught him.
Dude never said he was the victim. Wasn’t looking for sympathy and acknowledged he was a terrible father and abuser. Yet you all still attack him for looking for sympathy wtf is wrong with you people???
Well you see, we generally dont feel bad for people like OP. Who was fishing for sympathy and is only sad no cause he is all al9ne with no one to take care of him
OP's acting all sorry for what he did because he realized slowly over time while waiting with his wife until her death and even a little after, that their son wasn't coming back to them and is likely never going to so OP's last words are more likely going out to warn others who acted just like he did to his son to not "play shit games, win shit prizes in life" with their LGBTQIA+ children or offspring by harming and disowning them. OP is literally a real life proof of what the LGBTQIA+ community calls out on what will happen to all those homophobic/transphobic people who raised them awfully.
@ he specifically said he was not fishing and in no point of the story tried to paint himself into a favorable point of view. He’s telling his as a way to repent hoping he will maybe help someone not make similar mistakes. You all just love kicking people while they’re down. Be honest with yourself
@stefanharris659 we are and rightfully so, he's trying to gain sympathy in his elderly years when he had decades to clean up his act along with his wife before she died to make a change for the better yet waited last second to put the regrets out there in the open. He's warning others not to make the same mistake because he wants other awful people to avoid being given the same consequences he's receiving. I would heavily bet that if OP actually had someone in his life to watch him in his late years, he wouldn't be talking about his so-called regrets and loneliness like he is.
People like the OP in story 2 don't change or feel bad about their actions at all. I would know because I'm related to several and not one of them has changed.
Story 2: this is the fate of all who prefer to be right over being loved.
Well said. You're exactly right. It's a shame so many people seem oblivious to that.
Agreed.
Hmmm. But, OP wasn't right, and his son never truly gave himself up. OP was determined to control his son--using emotional and physical abuse--rather than loving the son he had.
I think we're coming at this from the same side.
I have seen this happen to people I love. I've been there in the aftermath. The survivors carry deep scars, at best. Many of them never fully heal. It breaks my heart and makes me absolutely furious.
@@katie6731 I took it as him believing without a doubt he was right, not that he actually was, which is usually worse because people like that are often more die-hard over it and want to force everyone to see it that way because to them it's just not possible that they're wrong, everyone else is wrong of course. Which sounds in line close to what you said, so I definitely think we're all on the same page
People like the OP in story 2 don't change or feel bad about their actions at all. I would know because I'm related to several and not one of them has changed.
You wouldn’t know because you only know within your own scope. Change is possible. Whether you choose to forgive them even after they’ve made genuine change is a different issue: genuine change does not equal forgiveness. And the ones that can’t accept that really haven’t changed to their core. But to say no one like this really changes just writes off the fundamental concept of self-improvement.
People change their views all the time.
@@juliearmfield2634true before I was this training pastor who hated everything about the world because it was sinful now this gay apatheist could give two flips what those bigoted good-for-nothing naysayers have to say.
Yeah
It does not change the fact OP was fishing for sympathy in his post. Nor does it change the fact he is "sorry" now, because he is all alone after came after his wife. @@juliearmfield2634
Story 2: it funny how OP suddenly feels regret, after realizing he is all alone and there is no one to take care of him now that he is old.
He says he not looking for "sympathy", yet it obvious he is fishing for it in this post. Part of me want to think this is fake but if true, then I really hope OP never finds the peace he wants, cause he does not deserve it
He is a failure of parent.
Honestly, I believe its true cause my dad also thought he could "fix" my gayness and was shocked that I completely shut down on him and left the first chance I got
He is a abuser who should've been in prison.
@@laquietagray9323I agree with you 💯%, my heart hurts for OP's son.
Nah it seems to pathetic and whinny to be fake. This is how it often goes sadly I’ve seen something like this happen and yeah after the damage is done and they are forced to face the consequences of their actions they try to downplay and reflect kind of. Notice how he still tries Tod own play how bad it likely was.
Story 1: Nope. 4 years is a long time to be searching the streets.
Story 2: OP is not looking for his son because he doesn't want to face the real consequences of his actions.
I think he can't hide from the consequences. But he feels that he does not deserve a second chance
@@warsongAro people like that, generally dont.
Story 2 makes me think of the other posts where another OP nearly drove his step son to self-delete.
in the second story, op had this coming on and that is karma
I hope the kid in the second story is doing better without his dad
Heck anyone would be!
Holy hell OP2 is terrible. How do you bully...no, eff that. How do you abuse your kid for years and think that's okay??
Well, if it isn't the consequences of your actions? You could always go to a nursing home, but no guarantee you won't be treated the same way, if not worse, than what you did to your son. I don't know what's going to happen to him, and I really don't care.
#1: OP was paying for everything. She got back in shape, got employed again, and then said, "I settled for you and want an open relationship." before divorcing OP.
*Four years later...* Him: "Do you remember when you left me?"
Her: "yeah."
Him: "So do I." *Blocked*
Am I supposed to feel bad for the op in story 2 and not the child?
Personal, I feel bad that the OP is still alive
In the OPs mind yes
In reality no
second op, at least he knows that the kid is better off
S2: OP essentially spouted a bunch of BS. He is not sorry. He’s trying to stealthily garner sympathy, as if what he did was not a big deal. There’s a special place in h*ll for him.
You can't amend your credit record, but you *can* add a note to your file stating that the lawsuit was due to identity theft. Companies aren't required to take that into account, but most do.
False
OP 2 and his wife are terrible parents. Their son could have been SA, SA and get pregnant if he was born as a girl, human trafficked (sex as well), doing drugs, experiencing depression, making bad decisions, doesn’t have a job or money, etc. and their son was a minor. All they wanted was control.
Making stuff up to take away from the homosexuality isn't wise
Second story OP was banking on his son crawling back. Never bank on someone crawling back
I really wonder if people like op in story 2 ever stop and think…”huh I sound absolutely stupid”
No. That requires critical thinking. You can't expect filet mignon results from someone with a McDonald's mind.
Story 1: Go no contact with your ex-wife; Emma! She can't be trusted because of how she treated you! Do not meet up with her! You owe her nothing! Leave the past in the past!
I can relate to the son in story 2.
I know what it's like to be ridiculed and judged.
S2: Both OP and his wife were a pos. Mom only regretted it because she wants to go out with a clean conscience which didnt happen. OP is now alone forever.
Story2: These ppl ALWAYS only care when they're all alone. Awwww poor baby😅. But on a serious note. I hope the son is alive.😔
I'm here for story 2
9:33 The streets age you buddy 😂
Story 2: OP and his wife are awful parents! They alienated their son! What you did was abuse when you would not allow him to grow his hair long and when he said that it was his hair; you could not leave well enough alone and forced him into a chair and shaved his head without his permission and then you had the nerve to make him clean that up! What you did is considered an assault! You should have cleaned up the mess! You were absolutely awful for making your son leave but I am glad that he did because he is better off away from you too! The son was mentally checked out after the way the parents treated him!
Story 2: They pushed their son away and abused/ punished him for being gay. They made damn sure he never felt safe in their home. He’s not sorry. People like him never are. They made their choices now they get to live with it.
Yeah ngl if my spouse was ever even remotely like OP in story 2 I simply would not be able to ever respect them again, i guess the cancer was karma 🤷
Don’t let her back in and stay strong
I hope story 2 is ragebait.
Chances are that it is legit. There are many "parents" out there that have reacted the same way or worse to their kid coming out as a member of the LGBTQ community.
Considering that there are real life cases of fathers killing their sons I doubt it
Best case scenario, it's ragebait. Worst case scenario, he deluded himself into believing his son is partially at fault, because "maybe if he had yelled back, I wouldn't have continued to abuse him and kicked him out of the only home he'd ever had." So either ragebait or a pity party
You women holler rage bait for everything
1) the fact she change for someone else and not you shoud have been a red flag, also 4 year? to self reflect more like be on the streets, she was probably having an emotional affair, im glad you moved on and i know you will find happiness afterall she still wants you theres something worth begginf for right?
2)YTA what the hell did you think would happen? no only you broke him emotionally but also through out all the things wasting his money too? and when he decided to emotionally and physically withdraw from interacting with you? that didn't concern you? also i think the friends and neighbours knew what you did was wrong but didn't bother involving you in their lives or show anycare? the reason they were being yes poeple was becuase they knew nothing would get into your head.
3)NTA this is your future, he was actively ruining and he knew it you need to sue for identity fraud
"In sickness AND in health, streetwalker. Hit the road."
OP2 is only sorry because he no longer has anyone to take care of him. Serves him right. Be good to your children if you want them to be good to you when you can no longer take care of yourself. Sadly, the we don’t even know if the son is still alive, which certainly doesn’t look good for OP and is also a tragedy.
OP3: We don’t know what happened to the dad. Please tell me he’s in prison.
Story 1: good man. Shiny spine.
Story 2: i have no words i can say legally and under TOS of RUclips. OP, you arent human.
Story 1: She was cheating. The late nights, the dismissiveness, tye fact she didn't care for her husband at alk anymore
I dont know how he didn't see it
The OP on story 2, or his wife does not deserve getting their son back, Not anymore
Wow, the last time I was this early was when I was born.
No
😂😂😂
@@Dreamer12888 You were not born, you were made at facility C5668, we've been keeping an eye on you ever since. We believe the time has come.
Story 2: if he’s gay, let him be. Don’t force your ideology on him.
Second 2 makes me feel good because OP got karma
So he was David Bowie but in a different generation.
Nothing wrong with that.
I don't understand how can you take credit that esay, so strange and stupid.
Story 2 is definitely rage bait
3rd story, loan fraud, you owe nothing. Go to the police. File charges
Story 2, you know people like op dont care about their kids they just are selfish. Why would god gay people on Earth if not to show what love is in all forms? i dont care what people think it is love, and they need to wrap their heads around that. I think his son is not mad but disappointed in his father. i mean a little anger, but at the end of the day, anger is not it just pity for op and disqust
Less advertisement please
People can't just take out loans in other's names.
You'd be surprised
20:40
Yeeeessssss, that is EXACTLY what you need to do!!!!!!
Holy shit everyone really hates OP from story 2 and like, I get it but damn guys, I don't think yall quite get what he will put himself through until the day he dies. And I'm sure one day the kid will regret not getting to talk to his mother before she died, one day. That's just one of the things about regret. All i heard was oain in the story and although i feel the worst for the kid obviously, I still feel like more suffering just...isn't right. I hope they speak one day, though I inow its too late for that. The father is probably doing what's best by no longer seeking out his son. It may hurt him to know his mother died like that, missing him and regretting their actions.
I highly doubt anyone abused will regret not speaking to their abuser. They should have thought about the long-term consequences BEFORE they acted! It's no different than driving drunk, killing someone, and then bragging you completed a recovery program. If he gets that much hate, it is because he has EARNED that.
he cant find his son because he probably doesnt identify as a male anymore. his son is probably living as a woman with a different name.
I mean, OP’s son wasn’t trans, just that he was gay. He probably just changed his name and moved hella far away.
Being gay does not make them trans buddy. OP just doesn't want to find his son and face consequences.
@@Tony2-Dirty did you not hear the part about growing his hair long, wearing makeup and finger nail polish?
@ but that’s not him being trans, that just him being gay. There’s a Steve Wilkos episode where a gay dude got accused of touching his friend’s daughter and that dude was hella feminine, it’s called “Why were you in my daughter’s bed?” Plus there is a musician named Big Freedia, who is an openly gay man and is super feminine too.
IN IRL story 2 NO FATHER WOULD REGRET WHO IS CAPABLE OF MAKING SUCH STRONG DECISIONS......its AI ppl it panders to the panderpeople.I would gladly disown any such abomination.Yes if he refused to see reason if its sa or trafficking or all the BS he made his bed he chose what delusions he got over what we have taught him.
Dude never said he was the victim. Wasn’t looking for sympathy and acknowledged he was a terrible father and abuser. Yet you all still attack him for looking for sympathy wtf is wrong with you people???
Well you see, we generally dont feel bad for people like OP.
Who was fishing for sympathy and is only sad no cause he is all al9ne with no one to take care of him
OP's acting all sorry for what he did because he realized slowly over time while waiting with his wife until her death and even a little after, that their son wasn't coming back to them and is likely never going to so OP's last words are more likely going out to warn others who acted just like he did to his son to not "play shit games, win shit prizes in life" with their LGBTQIA+ children or offspring by harming and disowning them.
OP is literally a real life proof of what the LGBTQIA+ community calls out on what will happen to all those homophobic/transphobic people who raised them awfully.
@ he specifically said he was not fishing and in no point of the story tried to paint himself into a favorable point of view. He’s telling his as a way to repent hoping he will maybe help someone not make similar mistakes. You all just love kicking people while they’re down. Be honest with yourself
@stefanharris659 we are and rightfully so, he's trying to gain sympathy in his elderly years when he had decades to clean up his act along with his wife before she died to make a change for the better yet waited last second to put the regrets out there in the open. He's warning others not to make the same mistake because he wants other awful people to avoid being given the same consequences he's receiving. I would heavily bet that if OP actually had someone in his life to watch him in his late years, he wouldn't be talking about his so-called regrets and loneliness like he is.
@@stefanharris659 Only if you admit you are just like OP.
Which is probably why you want to defend him. You see yourself.
People like the OP in story 2 don't change or feel bad about their actions at all. I would know because I'm related to several and not one of them has changed.