Battle: Los Angeles was criminally underrated. It looked and felt like a realistic combat movie with aliens and not just another generic invasion movie. Apparently, it had a lot of military consultants and was made with the full cooperation of the United States Marine Corps. Many of the extras were active-duty and reservist Marines and the cast went through a smaller version of boot camp, too. I like how the ending shows humanity had won the battle, but the war still continues as the aliens are still out there and the main characters resupply themselves and head back out into the battlefield.
“Dear Humanity... we regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth, And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!”
That M1 put in more work than most of the on-screen characters. I remember watching the scene frame-by-frame and found out that the only reason the tank got taken out was that they seemingly ran out of 120mm ammunition before popping the hatches and using their crew-served m240 and m2. The killing shot came from one of the aliens grenade launchers on the right side of the overpass. When said grenade launcher hit, the driver, loader, and commander were on top of the tank while the gunner got caught halfway out of the hatch. They held the line until the bitter end.
Hey man, I’m just curious because I’ve heard that old saying about tanks being a coffin for five brothers, how are you feeling about armor in the current Ukraine conflict? (No politics, only relevant info)
@@erich-cd7zu the tank itself isn’t obsolete, the way the Russians are using tanks is Nothing on the battlefield offers the same combination of protection, mobility, and firepower as a main battle tank, but it needs to work in conjunction with other ground and air assets to work effectively
prolly because in a modern tank battle dismount = death. even if the tank is disabled, better to hang out inside the armored strongpoint until the shooting stops or a recovery team arrives
i wish it reversed tbh. They couldve stayed in the fight however there would be alot of unintentional mistakes in an alien invasion let alone a regular scenario on earth. They did the absolute best they could.
Battle LA is my top movies of all time, simply because it feels realistic. The way they act, the way they decided, and the way they united for a common enemy, hell even a civilian was brave enough to take arms to protect the soldiers. It is criminally underrated. Should be given more attention.
@@Chris.Davies Feeling realistic and being realistic is two different things completely... The only thing that is realistic, is... well... reality... simulations, media, movies, etc... they are only approximations... So every single movie on the planet is unrealistic... If you want to be super pedantic....
Feel like you missed a beat with the design of the alien tech; it's all centered around fighting a land based opponent. They have enhanced legs, their heavy weapons walk, and their command center is quickly buried. It's hard to believe that they'd just design all that stuff to fight humans (waste of resources/time - can just drop rocks on us from orbit) so it'd seem to hint at their home planet situation. Presumably they're amphibian but mostly live in the water while their enemies were land based. Their almost immediate use of high ground, smoke, and hand signals also hints that their opponents couldn't climb very well but had excellent vision and hearing. Weapons and tech being grafted onto their bodies might also indicate that the enemy heavily scavenged from Landshark stuff - it's much harder to take and repurpose an enemy gun when the firing group is their own nerves and tendons - which might also indicate why their own tech looks so raggedy and unfinished when they're obviously capable of incredible technical achievements. As for their need for water, I don't think it was for fuel as we'd consider it but rather that salt water (which would explain them choosing Earth and not say Europa or asteroid mining) was a vital biological component for them. When the water pumping heart is stabbed you can see the light and movement in the brain dims and slows, probably indicating a reaction was just deprived of energy. Personal conjecture: On their homeworld they encroached on land that was already home to an intelligent, possibly primate-like, species with superior numbers and a propensity for scavenging any tech not nailed down and learned the hard way that transhumanism (transsharkism?) was the only viable route to survival. They obviously already had tactics for an amphibious assault and establishing coastal beach-heads and rudimentary aerial superiority but (given the events of the movie) largely lost out due to overspecialisation to an opponent with a more flexible mindset and skillset which could overcome their rigid doctrine.
I actually don't think the weapons and tech being grafted was about scavenging. They are aquatic so it would make their soldiers able to move easier and faster in the water, without risk of losing equipment to things like riptide currents or underwater combat. Agree with the rest of your assessment.
@@azarinevil isn't that why we have slings in the first place, besides just carrying things by hand? It's literally the next evolution of weaponry besides forcing it to fully do everything, a good way to accidentally mix alien with terminator, a really cool concept now thinking about it.
As for me those aliens looked a lot like Cravers from Endless Space. Those are part biological part mechanicals constructs based on barely sentient animals. The sole reason for their creation is to act as self-sustaining and adaptive army\weapon. After their creators went extinct those "weapons" evolved into some kind of "race" which was set on conquest and was extremely aggressive toward anyone else. They had no proper society and used all the resources to fuel the expansion and war effort. So every planet they have conquered turned into barren husk pretty fast. So, Landsharks look a lot like "separated limb" of some autonomous space army of artificial constructs who know no diplomacy and lack adequate goals. Hence specialization, in-built weaponry, grafted mechanical parts and tactics that is good for limited-scale conflict but unsuitable for full-blown war.
Water,especially sea water, has multiple purposes for a technological species. Hydration, breathing for an aquatic species with gills, coolant, it can be broken down into oxygen and hydrogen and used for combustible fuel, and sea water contains deuterium, which is useful for nuclear reactions and nuclear fusion. Water is one of the most abundant resources in the universe, they could easily get it in the form of ice just about anywhere in the solar system. But they specifically came to Earth, which must mean they want the planet itself. It's not just about water, it's about colonizing. And we're only seeing the first wave of aliens; where are the colonists, the civilians? If they have 'castes' of warriors, officers, etc. then at the very least they have a similar system for engineers, technicians, farmers, etc. who have no business being in combat and thus would not be seen in the invasion itself, but would absolutely be necessary for the occupation of the planet. These guys are desperate and have gone to desperate lengths to survive, resorting to extreme transhumanism/translandsharkism, and fleeing their home planet because they're on the losing side of a war. There's no way they didn't plan for long-term occupation of Earth and just randomly showed up to shoot anything that moved and loot our resources. They didn't bomb us from orbit and are shown to be making use of our infrastructure, including the electric grid and plumbing. They don't intend to build everything from scratch and are going to adapt our infrastructure for their use. Which also means they'll likely want humans to operate and maintain that infrastructure for them until they're established enough to build everything themselves. In real life, while invaders often destroy and depopulate entire cities (Genghis Khan, for example), they don't exterminate the entire population of the places they conquer: they need survivors to grow food, maintain roads and infrastructure, and pay taxes. So the aliens indiscriminately massacring every human they come across during the initial landing doesn't necessarily indicate they intend to kill every single human, or even the majority of humans. It could simply be that they don't know how dangerous humans are or who's a combatant and who isn't, and aren't taking any chances until they know better. They did, after all, grab a couple marines and drag them off to study them, the same way the marines grabbed an alien to study.
I like how the aliens act like actual smart military combatants they pull back their wounded and check to make sure their target is dead they also work together like actual soldiers
The movie was made to essentially be a war film that has aliens in it rather than an alien movie with a war, the idea was that the enemy could essentially be any human force but with the extra zest of having the cool sci fi spin on it
I don’t think that the landsharks would sound distorted above water, mostly because I don’t think they’re fully aquatic. Semi aquatic would make much more sense considering how important combustion is to technological advancements. I would guess they lived in the oceans, but went to land to hunt or raise young as it’s safer. Eventually, they discovered fire and how to make weapons and you have a semi aquatic technological civilization. So they would’ve evolved to live on both land and in the water. This lends further credence to why they chose earth: land surrounded by water. Since combustion is useful for technology, meaning I would guess a lot of their industrial capacity was on land while people largely lived in the water. But, this land is limited, so when factions arose and took over these landsharks industry, they had no options to rebuild elsewhere or reconquer their lands. So, they packed up all they had and went to another water world with land for industry, earth, and tried to do to us what the other faction did to them. Though, this is just my idea, I could be wrong
It's just my opinion, but isn't it just the heat they need, not the fire in itself? I mean isn't combustion just a form of heat? To melt and change things? If it's just the heat they can easily do it underwater, there is so many heat source in the ocean. I'm no science expert and maybe I'm wrong.
One of the reasons I love this movie was because how realistic the aliens were acting and not just the old classic extermination bullshit with OP advanced weapons while humanity is running away. In this movie the Aliens were acting like real soldiers under an invasion. They established a beachhead, then from there they moved to other targets. They pulled their wounded out of the battlefield, and they were following orders from some kind of commanding officer on top of a vantage point where it could see everything. They also applied ambush tactics pretty well. They used drones efficiently to block against incoming attacks and took off once their command structure was compromised. The movie was definitely one of a kind, would've loved to see a proper sequel.
@@Willppyro it's always better to not go headfirst into enemy territory. In WW2 and the gulf war we had the ability to drop droops hundreds ofiles behind enemy lines but it's not worth losing a bunch of resources for nothing. Take a beachead and force your enemy infront of you.
@@Willppyro I mean they were there for water and appeared to be in a rush for it. Why drop inland when you can take the beach, secure it, then drain the water from the biggest body containing it on the planet while defending your drop zone?
I still want a second part of this movie. Was the most realistic one in my opinion, nothing exaggerated, military seems to be displayed better than in any other movie and the aliens werent godlike enemies.
Hopefully it shows Earth as a unified force or shows a different country on the brink of collapse fighting back after they learn from the United States on how to destroy them.
@@riftsplitter2159 it is say that it takes 18 months before humanity manages to recover all their mayor cities and while the aliens still havent been fully defeated the intense fighting has stopped
Roanoke's biological breakdowns are why I'm here, but his side-gig as a classic muscle car enthusiast is a lot of fun and I love seeing him identify cars by their year and model.
i love how realistic the shootouts were with some aliens dying as they peek up to return fire and the one next to it glancing over for a second before sort of regaining focus and firing back, especially clumping together while moving back it gives the impression that they were in fact scared of death and also recognizing open firefights as dangerous and opting for ambushes instead, only feeling confident when they had armored support like that walker robot thing
I've always thought that the technology of the aliens in this movie looked "crude." Their equipment had exposed parts, missing armor, patched-on segments, jerry-rigged looking parts, etc. They definitely sold the idea that these guys were already on their last legs before they got here and that their invasion was a hail mary. They found the closest habitable planet with life that they thought they might have a chance to beat, and went for it. The alternative was probably enslavement or extinction. They really should have just negotiated.
@@JoshSweetvale Yeah but he wasn't on his least leg by any standards AND he negotiated with other native tribes. People don't realize Cortez and his conquistadors were really like an immortal advanced alien species. With their high end steel body armor they were impervious to the stone age clubs and arrows the natives used and with the excellent Spanish steel longswords and blunderbusses they easily cut through hordes of soldiers wearing plant armor and wooden weapons. Infact most conquistadors died of exhaustion from killing so many enemies or illness. It got to the point many conquistadors ditched their heavy plate armor for padded cloth armor with either chain mail or hardened leather over it because it was alot lighter and less restrictive while also almost completely protecting against the native weapons.
Yeah you hit the nail on the head RolyPoly, if they came and negotiated things would've worked out alot better. If they explained the threat they faced which in turn threatened us it could have resulted in a wonderful alliance where our resources, temporary safety, large numbers and relative technology paired with their incredible technology, desperation and supreme biology could have resulted in a golden age for both species and interesting movie about the two races taking on the species of existential threat for the landsharks.
@@Lotek117 humans, sadly. are historically xenophobic. as much as i wish we could negotiate with an alien race to let them live on our planet i dont think it would be so easy. i think it would be historic but there would be so much backlash and controversy. i think the aliens could live here, but theres people who dont like other humans cause of the color of thier skin. now think about if these people also knew literal aliens were on earth
I'm pretty sure the director talked about how the reason the aliens are low-tech enough for us to fight them is because they're the equivalent of a third world militia in space terms.
That's one of the problems being the invading force in an intergalactic war. While your force is travelling to the target planet using current tech, due to time dilation when you reach them they will have already advanced their tech by then
I could just imagine a bunch of warrior like races seeing this and just fucking face palming these dumb ass militia bastards attacking a primitives' world and MIGHT having to go in and clap those alien cheeks.
My theory was that their flight through space took them very long and they simply didn't anticipate human technology to have evolved at such a high rate. I mean we made some pretty huge leaps during the last 200 years. And if a yourney through space takes you about 300 years, who knows what you'll find on the other side.
I swear I've seen that before, an alien species was planning on invading Earth but thought humanity was stuck in middle age technology, but when they got here it was WWII and humanity had advanced enough to resist and repel their invasion. Harry Turtledove made a book on that premise.
@@seomahazuri8999 Alien 1: Sir, this planet located in the Sol system has the resources that we need. But it seems to have some sort of dominant species Alien general: What is the level of their technology? Alien 1: Sharp metal sticks, sir. They also seem to wear metal casings Alien general: Good. Should be easy enough. Then we're off! (hundreds of years later) Alien 1: So... it seems they have achieved the means to split atoms, sir
Imagine being the alien during that dissection scene. You’re a soldier sent to a foreign planet by your people and you land, take out some of them and get injured only to wake up and realize that your enemy is peeling your face off and tearing open your chest. They look at you like you’re weird or creepy and then they keep prying open your chest until they find your heart and ram a knife into it. That’d suck a lot
Alien 1: "So we just need water, right?" Alien 2: "Right." Alien 1: "And the galaxy is full of icy planets and asteroids we could mine for water, right?" Alien 2: "Correct." Alien 1: "And doing so would be a lot easier and less risky than, say, invading a planet with intelligent life on it, right?" Alien 2: "What are you getting at?" Alien 1: "... I want off this ship."
Maybe it's salty water they want and also to have land since they are amphibious and also need a place not too cold and hot and basically there's not many planets that fit that bill. They could also have chosen earth because we have lifeforms capable of sequestering different elements from the environment which will save them a lot of time developing machines to do this. The evidence for this is that the aliens are only killing humans and not other animals. So they might need them for food.
It could be their plan was to deal with the intelligent life first, then harvest the rest of the solar system. If they harvested other bodies first, that would be a warning to Earth to start mass-producing nukes. Of course, the question then would be why they couldn't just drop rocks on Earth before they invaded.
Exactly! Water is the second most abundant compound in the Universe. Why on Earth would any remotely intelligent aliens invade an inhabited planet to get it, when there are countless icy asteroids and planets where it could be mined easily?
@@michaeldexter2544 I think it was stated that these aliens were part of the losing faction in a war on their planet and that their technology is not advanced enough and thus they neither have the resources nor time to mine asteroids and ice planets and instead gambled that humanity will not improve too much technologically by the time they get here and they become the apex species of Earth.
Being in the Marine Corps my self I can honestly say that this movie had the most realistic depiction of how Marines are, from our comraderie, sense of humor, way we respond to contact etc etc Only thing it didn't include was us spray painting the boot half black and half white and have him repeating lines from star trek for our amusement while filming it
Theory: The aliens could be on the run from a higher tech species and are desperate for resources. They probably had to build makeshift ships to run or fight back because their dedicated warships and defenses were likely destroyed. This also explains why their ships look so raggedy and rundown.
I think these aliens were fighting another species on a distant planet, and they were losing, and in order not to be without a planet, they invaded Earth in an improvised way and in any way!
The fact that they seem to be a hive mind or drones implies they have more up their sleeve. I've read too much hard sci-fi to think they're running from something. They could just as easily harvest water on a dead planet. So why attack earth? Simple... I think they want ALL the water. They want every once of water in our entire solar system. Which means they have a massive civilization
my head canon to this movie is that they're the enemy aliens that were hunting the battleship movie aliens LOL, after they intercept the signal sent by the battleship aliens lol, they invaded earth
I noticed that that in my first viewing, the aliens pulling their wounded from the battle. I actually really liked that. It may seem simple, but it really gave the aliens a bit of personality to them.
I like the idea that other societies developed more into transportation and communication technology to explore the universe while humans leaned into weapons technology instead. It’s fun to imagine our weapons being considered massively overkill and lethal compared to others
@@djmustang000 haha look at the primitives! They havent even gotten past their moon, look at thoose cute little rockets, still using chemical rockets to ferry people to orbit? Eyo why the rocket aimed at us, ayo why do they have rad sigs? DID THE MOTHER SHIP JUST TURN INTO A STAR?!!!!
Why the fuck do they have floating nuclear-powered cities launching fast bois at us? Why do the fast bois have multiple different EM bands coming off em? Why the fast bois shooting smaller fast boi- *dead*
@@NiteckterX I was confused like "What do you mean floating nuclear-powered cities? We haven't invented that sort of space tech yet." And then I realized you were talking about carriers XDDDDDD
There is actually a short story like the one you just mentioned. I believe it is called "The Road Less Traveled". Where aliens invade earth as part of an empire but while capable of using space traveling ships, their weapons were something closer to what you would see in the early 1800s with muskets.
1 person represents the air force, I think 2 for the army, literally like 90% of the movie's military units the marines, coast guard the one ship that just gets decked by a meteor to start with... which I guess can be metaphor for what everyone thinks about the coast guard. Navy was who knows where.
The smartest decision in this movie goes unnoticed with the fact that it's a VETERINARIAN who does the autopsy on the alien drone. It's something a lot of Sci-Fi series glance over with regard to understanding the biology of other alien species. Too many series equate human anatomy to every intelligent creature encountered, and assume too much by projecting our understanding of physiology onto them when in all actuality how completely wrong it might be.
Exactly The best ones to go over an alien biology would be biologists,zoologists and vets due to their fields as an alien life form would first of all more than likely be anything but close to a human so instead use the studies and knowledge of other life forms and possibilities could connect the aliens to the prior animals on earth or the possible ones we’ve dreamt of,instead of wasting time trying to find equations to humans
@@spacetacos7574 I think the only other Sci-Fi show that did this was "Futurama" in the episode when Fry is stuck on Omicron Percei 8. They take him to the vet because he's Jrrr's pet.
yea because we THINK that humanoid as we are is the most efficient form there is, thus we BELIVE that we will encounter aliens rather similar to us. No Bugs to be found here (sadly that means no shivans either, but vasudans? We gonna fight them for 14 years straight around 2400 - 2500 AD (wich means in like 400 years). THAT is what scientists BELIVE, wich CLEARLY will prove wrong.
I love these videos I've been bingeing on this channel for 3 days now, good to see I'm not the only 1 that watches movies/tv shows and breaks them down into bits either making sense and explaining stuff or accidentally disproving things.
@@69Kazeshini I got two theroies for this: 1) Perhaps they were fighting their own, galactic-scale war elsewhere and decided to invade Earth as a last resort possibly due to them losing ground to whoever they are fighting. It's a huge risk as starting a war with another civilization that wasn't involved in the first place could lead to more, unecessary losses and possibly open up another front they can't manage because of tight resources. However, they needed the fuel so who ever was in command decided to try their luck. 2) They are a mercenary / pirate faction that decided to invade Earth for their own gains or on behalf of a client. They are trained but possibly arrogant. Eitherway, I get the impression that the force that invaded Earth isn't even the whole fleet. And after the events of the film, I doubt they would pour more resources to completely occupy the planet. Just take what they can get and get out. After all, their bases don't seem to be designed for permanent enplacement. If they really wanted Earth, they probably would have conducted covert infiltration and sabotage ops prior to bringing in the main fighting force. If not simple recon missions. We would not last a week if that.
@@69Kazeshini that is true if an alien race did invade earth they would first gather intel and know that the human race is very adaptable and WILL go down a suicide nuke everything path if it looks as if we will be overwhelmed so our nukes and world wide communications would be the two things that they would get rid of first they would also abuse our lack of knowledge about them
@@69Kazeshini it really depends, the aliens on the film don't seem like an apropiate military force but more like a military that scavenges and uses whatever it has at hand, it seems more like the kind of military you would expect from a struggling third world nation than a super power like the US, their technology seems bulky and heavy and their cibernetic upgrades looks really rugged and just bolted on, and even with that they gave humanity a hard time And the lore seems to support this, this guys arent a proper military force but the survivors of one, basically we are fighting a decimated and weakened space army that just lost it's own war and are desperate for resources
I'll join the cacophony and say that I loved this movie and hate that it was so panned. The fact they had so much lore to go with it and nothing else came of it just makes me angrier. What they presented in the movie was enough to keep me wanting more (along with the mostly accurate depiction of military procedure). Thanks for this one, Roanoke!
@@fileoffish1403 To break things down: Air Force = Airmen Navy = Sailors Army = Soldiers Marine Corps = Marines National Guard = Guardsmen Also ya, there was a couple of Soldiers and Airmen with them. As a collective, no clue, I’d assume troops?
I really liked how the aliens in this film weren't just overpowered monsters and actually used militaristic strategies. I also like how their technology isn't crazy advanced like other alien movies with spacecraft that defy the laws of physics. The alien aircraft in this film actually had visible sources of propulsion such as rocket boosters. Its a really grounded form of alien invasion. I think Battleship did this well, too. Though, the aliens are pretty stupid to invade earth when they could just start a mining operation on Europa or some other planet or moon with ice or water.
This movie was just ahead of it's time.. I thought they were supposed to be a series of films focusing on different fronts of the global invasion. The title, Battle: Los Angeles was supposed to be the first in a franchise like the mcu. Battle: New York, Battle: London, Battle: Tokyo... Could've been fun
I love how the alien's weak spot ended up being the center of the chest where a human's heart would be. That's where armed forces personnel are trained to shoot (center of mass).
@Ozpin But that also bothered me: If “center of mass” is supposed to be the aliens’ weakness, why weren’t they going down as easily when everyone was literally _Already_ shooting them on their “weak spot” ? :/
@@UGNAvalon Because its much much easier to armor a torso than a head... Hell even with modern ballistics helmets you could get domed by a 120 year old rifle and get a broken neck from the force...
@@happyjohn354 You seem to be missing my point. The humans were *_Already_* "aiming for center mass" *_Before_* they learned of the aliens' weakness, but for whatever reason, that was ineffective. And then they discover "we need to aim for center of mass" and suddenly their bullets are way more effective now?? Getting shot in the head (armored or not) has nothing to do with this. :P
@@UGNAvalon Simple they know the weak points in the torso armor after cutting them open... It looked like most of the "armor" around the weak spot is made of bone and fleshy material likely because they couldn't encase the beating organ in sub dermal metal armor like the rest of the torso. So the entire torso is not a weak point just a portion about the size of a softball from the front and its still not entirely unarmored either so it might save them from a glancing hit. And the headshot is an analogy for how easy it is to armor a torso their weak point compared to ours.
dude the lore in this movie is sick, kinda gives me the impression that the movie was supposed to be from the aliens' perspective at one point or something
Nah it's our prespective. We see so many movies where we know what the Aliens are doing and we forget that it all likelyhood, we're not going to have Hollywood Cameras on their Mothership to tell us what their goal is. It's nothing but confusion on our end.
For the most part its just Hollywood that makes alien movies with almost zero lore. A lot of sci fi books go crazy with the lore since a lot of the authors are people that truly care about things they are writing about other then America > Aliens
More likely it was intended to launch a franchise, so they put time and effort into making sure the 'badguys' were fleshed out enough to make that easy. They frankly read as written up for use in videogames, RTS or FPS.
It's interesting seeing throughout the movie you can see them communicate with eachother via hand gestures and the like, it definitely makes them stand out and feel more interesting to watch ontop of seeing them react to say getting injured like the other operator ducking clutching his wound after he's hit helping the other one with the walking gun I guess a way to sum it up is they feel more human? That they aren't mindless soldiers among all 4 castes
@@Oppen1945 mhm! But you still get a sense of desperation with their attacks, like the one warriors gun jamming seeing him hitting his gun to get it working It's the body language and details that adds so much
The filmmakers said they didn't set out to make "an alien movie," they set out to make "a war movie, with aliens." A *lot* of attention to detail went into this. A lot of vets I've known really enjoy the movie as a result.
Biologically speaking we have our brains near our sensory organs for a reason basically it's too reduce latency as is common in most animals with some exceptions
That might acsually explain their seemingly poor reaction speed. Not just that the landsharks are at least more fit to live under water and the od to us place to their brain, thes creatures reactios are not as snapy and precise as ours. As too seem that instead of precition the aliens faevored spray and pray style as the more advanced where more precition shooters.
I liked Battle: Los Angeles because it explored one of my favorite Sci Fi aphorisms, from Larry Niven: "But the [aliens] learned the hard way that the reason humanity had [tried to give] up war was that they were so very, very good at it."
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 If aliens were to hit us with 30 times the violence we already show eachother, we'll just hit them with 60 times. Humanity has been waging ceaseless war for over 100,000 years. We know how to kill. Every Human, regardless of their feelings on violence, has the capacity to perform extreme, gruesome acts of violence when necessary. It's built into our very genetics. War is a genetic evolution.
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 I literally never asked that. And yes of course a human is _physically_ capable of violence, that comes with having a range of motion at all. What I'm saying is, if aliens are disturbed by us being hyper-violent as a species, why would their response be to hit us with way more violence than even we've caused before?
This is a pretty underrated movie, it was really fun to watch and the concept of aliens stealing water is pretty damn plausible Edit: Roanoke senpai noticed me
Water is one of the most abundant resources in the universe. Hydrogen and Oxygen are one and three in terms of most abundant elements. Starting a war for water is a broken concept.
@@jameshallam3221 yeah but it would be frozen, and what if they’ve already been harvesting the asteroids before they came to Earth? Most water in the universe is frozen to a point where it would take more energy to melt it than it’s worth. AND if they invade an inhabited, intelligent world, then they’ve probably already used a lot of water and are desperate enough to go to war, ESPECIALLY if they’re lowering THE OCEAN LEVEL, then these guys use A LOT of water.
"Insects may have evolved to the level of intellect that humans have obtained" They already have, sort of. Ants are then most efficient pathfinders and logisticians on Earth that we know of. They also have 'mentors' that teach new workers how to do their jobs even going as far as getting them a new job as they age and lose their aptitude for their current one. Ants are effing amazing.
Ants have "collective intelligence". Their aggregate behavior creates patterns but individually they can only do what they've been programmed to. Separate an ant from the hive for a while and it'll turn into a bumbling buffoon. If you kidnap Einstein and put him in solitary, he would still be Einstein.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 are you sure ?would you like to see what happens to someone in solitary with no contact to others? Humans and ants aren't so different after all ants are just smarter
@@KikogamerJ2 Being in isolation reduces your social and conversational skills. You don't suddenly forget how to do math. But you're right, ants are smarter than you lot.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 so you think someone has 100 % great mental health after staying a year in isolation?like people during the pandemic coudlnt survive a week at home?looks like you are the sharpest of the knifes are you?
The coolest part of these aliens to me personally was their avid use of pulse rockets. They just seemed so diesel punk and technologically advanced and primitive, if that makes any sense.
What’s scary is how these guys are the *losing* side of the war on their home world. That means whoever they were fighting against pose a bigger threat than the sharks.
I mean, the other side doesn't have to be technologically superior to these aliens, they are most likely the same species. In fact, Maybe these aliens do not have a unified planetary government. maybe they have wars between each other just like humans do. and perhaps the force that tried to invade the Earth was a Government in exile trying to relocate to a new planet.
Huh, so water is like their blood? How weird would that be to look through a telescope one day and see a planet that is almost entirely made of blood. I don't think I'd want to go there if I could help it
Honestly always felt like the “land sharks” are a cast taken for thier organ structure, by another species. It had a Combine vibe, especially with their Ariel support being drones, and the surgical alterations.
It’s awesome, and really doesn’t deserve all the negative reviews thrown at it. It’s like Black Hawk Down but with aliens, which is an extremely cool idea and it’s pulled off pretty damn well in my opinion
I've watched it well over 20 times and still have not gotten tired of it lol. I'll watch it another 20. One of favorite movies and definitely my top alien invasion movie. Great acting to imo.
@Mr. Pecker's Finnish knife adoration society what was those games because when I was younger I enjoyed cod black ops 3 campaign in which I found out it was confusing
The human soldiers found a wounded alien, dragged it into the building with them, and started cutting it apart to study its anatomy and learn how to kill it more efficiently. Now think back to the marines who got grabbed by alien intelligence caste in the first firefight and dragged off, never to be seen again.
@@enderlinde3152 They didn't need to grab living humans and drag them away to execute them, that's what guns are for. They were doing the same thing the marines did to the wounded alien they captured: cutting them apart to see the most efficient way to kill them.
@@Swindle1984 I thought they killed the alien who dragged that guy in the streets. Cuz I don’t recall them counting any dead members, just wounded members. Lowkey if they did cut him up that would be a horrible way to die. Now I feel really bad if they didn’t get to kill the alien who dragged that guy
@@Kriscuit_Bonkin there was 2 instances of Marines getting dragged away. One happened on first contact: using the smoke and confusion the landshark dragged someone away. Later in the backyard scene it almost happens again but the ssgt rescues him
@@LunarisCainLegacy "Soldier" means a person who serves in an army, the US Marine Corps is a distinct branch from the army, and are a part of the Department of the Navy.
@@diobrando2575 Its still a Soldier no matter what. Its just a pathetic Entitlement to make themselves Unique and Separated from the Traditional Terms.,
This movie is one of the best alien/war movies ever. I really liked that the Aliens were not hyper-advanced, just different advanced compared to us. They use projectile weapons, reasonable tactics, the "drone" air power makes a lot of sense (we're moving closer to that ourselves), and they die.
The scene where they rip out the alien's guts and finally kill it by popping some shit is so hilarious. Like, you sure he didn't just die of blood loss or something?
@@RoanokeGaming it really just depends, alot of the small asteroids we dont detect at all, and the ones we do detect with no more than a day of notice. if aliens did invade with small enough drop ships we literally wouldnt notice untill theyre on our shores
@@MagikarpMan if I were to guess, the reason is a story reason, as a way of highlight that these meteors where Unusual, without coming out and saying it.
The thing I liked about this movie was the aliens tech wasn’t space magic they fired conventional rockets mixed with some kind of concussion sonic blast, their exosuits weren’t power ranger/iron man suits, but more like the Call of duty advance warfare exo rigs which are based off of current prototype exo suits. Basically they possessed tech in the realm of existing irl without breaking the laws of physics. They’re kinda like a smaller slimed down version of the cabal from destiny.
Someone mentioned that in terms of the galactic scale, their basically a third world country. So humans got really lucky that one of the less advanced species decided to invade
@@thetowerofbabble6307 lol damn we got invaded by space Somalia. So they’re more like the Fallen from Destiny, once a super power reduced to nomadic bandit gangs just struggling to survive.
Not necessarily. There are several instances of marine insects on Earth, most of which mostly stay near the surface. And, this is of course assuming that life on this planet took similar evolutionary paths to Earth. It is entirely possible and even plausible that insect analogues on another planet could have evolved to take advantage of marine niches in the same way that crustaceans and mollusks on Earth evolved to take advantage of terrestrial niches.
@@MikMoen My headcanon was that they were some kind of octopus like creature, and had to essentially graft themselves onto a mechanical skeleton to be able to function on land. Or possibly on earth's gravity.
Man after finding your channel I'm being reminded of a lot of old ideas of mine for movies, shows, books and games that feature interesting biology going on. With this video at 15:04 the idea of two intelligent species or races inhabiting a planet dragged my memory on something I didn't even take the time to write down. There's probably more probable methods for a situation like that. Stuff like: very recent common ancestor, with the two branches falling into the same niche or similar enough niches in separate regions. One formed and then uplifted the other, like we are doing with our pets or one started and then the other gained intelligence because of the habitat changes brought on by urbanization from the first, (I think the intelligence increase of both corvids and octopi fall into the second). My idea is a game of cat and mouse with predator and prey resulting with both rising to something similar to what we call sapience. In my particular world building the predator is pretty carnivorous because it lacks a portion of ability to synthesize its own vitamins, like the human B12 situation. They would be classified as something between mammal and reptile having both fur snake like scales, are warm blooded or cold blooded depending on the season, (space travel will likely mess up that internal clock,) has a ventilated storage "stomach" or crop, (because living prey keeps longer,) mammary glands and despite forming the embryo in a womb can detach the placenta and form an egg for the young to gestate in for up to half the gestation period. Looking like a predatory version of an iguanodon. (Most of my stuff has this personal trope of let's throw a whole new category between mammal and reptile in. Most of the creatures could be just classified as mammal like we did the platypus, but I would love to hear the justification of reasoning for that.) The prey origin species is a mostly herbivorous omnivore, a small ruminant with the other stomach chambers containing the enzymes for meat, they are a classic mammal and look like what you would get if you took raccoons and had them grab a few notes on athleticism from hares and felines. Both of these species would move to arboreal habitats as one attempted to evade the other in the trees, with the predator developing apposable thumbs in this stage. The defining moment for the two species would be a disease that both would be infected by with the prey species having little difficulty in eliminating it and the predator's immune system being unable to develop a counter to it before it's done too much damage. The chance genetic trait that allowed the predator species to go on to become sapient was the membrane of the crop became thin enough for the prey's antibodies to enter their blood. Before the disease this trait was a hindrance to survival, those with this trait would be able to fight off the disease with the prey creature bleeding in their crop, and among those that survived the most successful we're the ones who had the prey species persist the longest in their crop. That success influenced mating behaviors, and hunting habits. After the disease either mutated to a less harmful form or ran out of non immune populations the prey would develop a strategy that would render them harder than other prey items to hunt. By the time language was starting to form the prey species was almost exclusively hunted by the predator for mating rituals that could be summarized as catch, ingest and release. A common language was developed from both species listening and intuiting the meaning of behind the others noises. With language came bargaining, with bargaining came cooperation and names... I've finally decided on: the semi reptiles would be called "People-Stealers" and the ruminants "Trophies" in the common language. Almost parallel to the development of a common language between the two intelligent species languages specific to their separate vocal architectures are established. In the hunter gatherer stage, a portion of the Trophy population, near the seed of civilization for this world, would help the Stealers hunt in exchange for protection when they gather. These two cooperating populations had higher empathy for the other species, and would continue to develop more sympathy. The agricultural revolution that led to civilization began when a large herbivore was penned for later consumption. The introduction of stockpiling livestock lead to permanent food stockpiles for the Trophies and the growing of large grain grass. Trade began in earnest when the settling Trophies traded tokens to be guarded during sewing and harvest, which could be exchanged for favors and feed for livestock. Bread and cooking meat was discovered relatively close to each other, with sandwiches quickly developing as a staple food filling the overlapping diets. While this civilization was starting the majority of Stealers lived as hunter tribes in conflict with Trophy gatherer tribes. In this conflict weapons and hide and pelt armor would be developed. One of the Stealer tribes near the budding civilization launched a raid on it overwhelming their kin that was guarding the farms, as they were only equipped to scare off predators, proceeding to round up the Trophies working in the field to enslave and steal the livestock from their holding pens. This ended up leading a civilization of Stealer dominancy in conflict with a civilization of cohabitation. I've got a treat for those of you who've made it this far, cohabitation ends up being the winning strategy, and in their version of the modern era some nerd finds the original common language and literal meaning for the Trophies and tries to get some cross species action with a terrible pick up line.
“Banding together increases survival of the species” So…Why didn’t they come to the humans peacefully and say “Hey. We’ve been kicked off our planet because we’re kinda the underdogs and we need water to survive. If you give us some of your water, we’ll give you our tech”
IIRC, something in the lore stated that they expected humanity to have a roughly 19th Century level of technology. They were just as surprised to see sophisticated armored vehicles and air support as we were to see them using power armor and absurd amounts of drones. They went in figuring it was easier to start exterminating the locals only to realize too late that the locals had developed communications technology and would put up _much_ stiffer resistance than expected.
@@jimmyseaver3647 but if they had tapped into human radio and had technology such as space travel and drones then they would easily have the tech for things like satellites Either that or why didn’t they develop an infiltrator unit and use it to scout humanity?
@@irinashidou9524 It probably stems from their limited resources and general desperation and resultingly the inability to think straight. They _needed_ an easy conquest, and if their leadership knew humanity had advanced more rapidly than expected and admitted it, they'd face a revolt considering their troops are just as fond of not dying in some pointless slaughter as human troops. They probably didn't have much in the way of probes, either, which meant that they were only able to deploy one or two and assumed that things would remain relatively static until their arrival.
I’m glad you brought up humans caring for one another. It’s actually incredibly that we’re the only species that constantly put insane amounts of effort into caring for other species, and feeling responsible for them. We occasionally see this in nature, but it’s more common to see animals like zebras murdering their own if a female bred with another partner, and the countless types of animal wars. But that such a high % feels a deep connection and desire to try to take care of, support other species is insane ( just number wise)
To be fair, that's also because we can afford it. Wild animals don't have the luxury of spending time and resources for complete strangers. Only social species do, and only for their own small group, not even for the entire species.
The start of civilization is now even considered not be the time humans start using fire, but the archaeological evidence of healed-up femur bones. Injury, that is usually a death sentence to an animal, because you cannot feed (or defend) yourself for the time the healing process need to last, meaning other members of the tribe cared for the injured one.
Same for me. It "humanised" them and turned them from faceless disposable drones from (insert generic superhero movie name here) into an actual realistic fighting force with personality. Suggested also that attrition was a concern for them and if the numbers given in this video are correct would make sense.
I love how all these movies take an alien invasion and make it look like militaries would be completely overwhelmed. But I mean physics is still physics. I don't care what armor you're wearing, you get slapped with a crew served .50 and it's at the very least knocking your butt down and doing some bad damage to internal organs. People also conveniently forget about the balloon effect and other various bodily damages as a result of being close to explosions.
To be fair, assuming an alien invasion literally just came outta nowhere, militaries would be completely overwhelmed especially if said aliens have prior intel (which they likely will) and have more advanced technologies. But in a situation like Battle LA where the tech and *tactics* are about same-ish, then they need shock and awe (or significantly overwhelming numbers) to keep the momentum going and prevent the defenders from re-oganizing
I think it more depends on the aliens anatomy and how they coordinate, and if they have any prior intel on the military status, and weaponry of the humans so they could find a way around being destroyed easily.
I mean, against human flesh, a lot of the devastation from a bullet is caused by hydrostatic shock. Depending on composition, alternative lifeforms might not actually be subject to hydrostatic shock, in which case a bullet would be no more dangerous than having a firepoker slowly stabbed through you. Still not great, but very unlikely to be consistently lethal. Against material targets, we have armour that can withstand 50 cal fire indefinitely right now. Not man portable for sure but aliens don't need to be the same size as us.
I've seen this movie dozens of times and yet I still enjoy it, the combat feels more intense and chaotic, the aliens seem to actually have a personality to them, I especially like that humanity doesn't immediately get torn apart by the aliens and actually are given a fair fighting chance, further more humans don't just know how to fight them right away and actually have to learn the biology of said Aliens. Overall-very underrated moved, I honestly enjoyed both this video and the movie.
@@starsjosephfrost they should be smart enough to try and coat themselves, but that form of effort wouldn't matter if they're gonna get assblasted before they could even attack lol
@@godleftmeraw89 yep LOL . Everyone looses at Russia, Napoleon, The germans, the Americans, british, french, and White army soldiers (Russian Civil war 1917 - 1922) the Nazis, and maybe the aliens in 201X I forgot what year this took the movie.
Normally I’d tell you all about my own experience, but this time it’s just me preemptively saying: Congratulations on 600,000 Subscribers! You deserve every single one of them with your hard work and scientific explanations. Hopefully one day I hit even 1/6th of that.
The alternative is slower. Learn the language, negotiate minor technology in return for land use to set up a colony. Then exploit existing tensions between native groups to gradually push out and claim more territory on behalf of your native allies but ultimately for your exclusive use. Doesn't hurt to use a little deniable biological warfare to weaken the natives and claim even more territory in the name of an humanitarian effort. Very effective, but slow, so I have to assume the Landsharks were under a time constraint.
Given their body augmentation, I think there are three possibilities: these grafts seem rather messy an unorthodox, so perhaps the land sharks we see were cobbled together in approach as more information about the planet they were invading was gathered. It is also possible that they were fighting a land-based enemy, possibly a colonization attempt that turned into an extinction-level war. Given their extensive self-mutilation, it’s also likely that they belong to a certain mindset among their people, one that sought perfection through technology, and one that clashed violently with a more “nature’s design is best” faction that ran them off.
They technically are still soldiers going by the definition of "soldier" instead of US military terminology. "Soldier" comes from Old French "soudeour" meaning "mercenary" (literally "shilling's worth")
The concept of alien invasions has always fascinated me. Despite the absolutely terrifying possibilities, I think it would be a very interesting event for humans in a social aspect. I mean as much as we dedicate our time and efforts in discovering new and interesting ways to destroy each other, the fact is we all know how we'd react to a existential threats towards us. We are still animals, and we would fight tooth and nail for the preservation of our species.
Wow! Never thought you’d touch on this! I love this movie! If rewatch it anytime. The movie felt realistic enough, and it wasn’t a generic *ah damn humanity loses again* scenario. But shows how the humans successfully found a way to fight back! Also the movie showed how there was real struggle for the military. Also the enemies were interesting and not invincible. Because some alien movie make it to where the enemy can virtually resist human tech. Great review RG!
@@am-ranth8955 Really depend on the method used for space travel and the technologicals requirements. They might need boots on the ground to prevent us from nuking their ships in orbits or they could yeet entire asteroids field. As for nanotechnology deconstructing all biological matters on earth that's physically not possible as they would either move too slow, produce too much heat as a whole and burn their circuitry or you'd need to cover the ENTIRE planet in nanomachines which is impractical.
Hey Roanoke, do you think that the artists and designers of these kinds of sci-fi films actually come up with all of the details about their creatures’ biology/morphology or do you think they just want to make something that looks cool and let the audience fill in the gaps? I always wonder if the creators take any of those things into account when making the films.
It depends from movie to movie but a lot of studios do pay attention to plausibility while still considering novelty and cool factor. Take for example avatar where all the creatures are very fantastical but still grounded and realistic within the context of the movie. But movies like predator designed the creature for the cool factor and then developed a lore beyond that.
They did that for Stranger Things, the show is founded on a world guide that explains the details of the Upside Down, how it works, whats in it, every last detail. Then Netflix was like "Ok, make a show about this"
I saw a documentary that explained that having light sensitive cells, and eventually eyes, you need more nerves and neurons to properly process. If you want to use your sight effectively, you need that info quick. So the neuron cluster would form behind the eyes and eventually lead to the formation of a proper brain. Having our brains center mass would make eyesight and the ability to rely on it far worse. EDIT: I think like you yourself have pointed out, evolution doesn't plan ahead.
So, the alien world is a place that has either a dim star or is a large moon to a gas giant or its atmosphere is composed of something that lets in little light or the creatures lived in deeper, darker ocean depths. At least that's my guess as to how they would evolve.
@@GAdmThrawn The problem with that is then, why have eyes? Most of the fish we find in low/low light environments are blind. Their eyes come from ancestors that got naturally selected into unexplored territory and now rely on all other senses. Unless you've got bioluminescence like an angler fish, why waste resources on an expensive organ?
What about octopuses. They have multiple brains. The aliens could have a "mini" brain in their head for visual processing, while the main brain in the chest cavity handles the other functions.
I love when sgt comes back and started to load mags. It makes me want to cry . It is two things.. he is controlling what he can control to settle mentally space and it is heroic
Imagine being an alien invader landing down with your first introduction to how vast humanity's military industry is by being turned into a fine mist by a tank or a soldier/hillbilly/cultist/random human with a semi-automatic .50 caliber rifle. Or just a rando who read the anarchist cookbook and made a improvised explosive or two.
John Ringo actually explored that idea in his Legacy of the Aldenata books( at least the first few of them). After humanity gets drafted into an interstellar war against a race of vicious centaur-alligators that use repurposed precursor species tech, eventually they find and invade earth. And find out that humanity isnt like the other pacifist sentients the rest of the galaxy seems to be populated by, that a not insignificant number will fight back. Including a militia of ATV riding hillbillies with Barret 50s, who have probably the best success rate of just about any other force on earth( aside from the Corps of Engineers, who turn whole cities into layers of booby traps that wipe out whole Armys). Like all John Ringo books though, he eventually wonders off into weird things and the books become a very different series later on, and I lost interest after a 30 ( and 200) year time skip that basically writes out all the characters and completely destroys the investment as basically all the original books are rendered moot.
I love how you can show alien guts and an autopsy but have to say "force multiplier". Have to admit, I've never really watched the movie but I've always found the aliens fascinating. It's nice to see your thorough take on them.
1:29 "When I joined this beloved core we didn't have any fancy smanchy tanks. We had sticks! Two sticks and a rock for the whole platoon, and we had to share the rock!" Fits really well with the whole evolution of war thing you mentioned earlier lol.
The look of these landshark aliens kinda reminds me of the original designs for the Combine from half life 2, as in the units supposedly deployed during the 7 hour war.
THIS is one of my favorite movies. It's criminally underrated imo. Just one of the few movies I could just turn on and watch anytime. Thanks for covering this hidden gem.
I think they look more like humanoid crustaceans, but that is just me. some of their organic matter also reminds me of the book lungs of horseshoe crabs
I really liked this movie, though “critics” and “journalists” didn’t like it. There is a rumored POSSIBLE sequel but most of that news is from 2012 and 2013. I still hope for one though.
I cannot express how much support I would give for a Battle: New York, Battle: Dallas/Houston, Battle: [insert any major city] movie. I adore the realistic take on an alien invasion Battle: Los Angeles took.
Agreed, this is such a fascinating alien war movie, especially for being based on modern times and how horribly outclassed we really are. Conventional tactics don't cut it, we have to strike directly at their weaknesses and otherwise completely avoid them. Punching through is simply not an option. It also gives off a such a great survivor feel, almost drifting from place to place just trying to survive.
I don't like this film. The Alien's logic is about as sound as using a Hair drier in the Shower. They handed the aliens a massive Idiot ball, which is poor writing imo
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim this movie feels like it was about the military way more than it was about aliens. They left out all the interesting sci-fi stuff
I'm surprised that since they lost, humans didn't immediately start to reverse engineer their tech. then again there might have been some issues but eventually there's a work around
“Immediately” - You do realize that the war was far from over, right? The movie ended with the mobilizing of a counteroffensive in a single city, not with the last of the aliens being driven out of a significant area. Besides, reverse-engineering of unfamiliar technologies isn’t that easy even in Star Trek levels of technology; 21st Century humans would likely have an even harder time understanding (much less replicating) totally alien interstellar technologies.
@@UGNAvalon you do know it's a Sci fi movie right? also every military even fictional ones have a r&d team in it, if they don't for whatever reason, they will hire a group of scientists to do it, even while in a war.
@@nightstalker9676 It's only "sci-fi" in the barest-minimal sense of the word via the inclusion of aliens. In every other aspect, the movie is a fully-grounded, hard-realism film taking place in modern-day (ie technologically primitive) Earth. This means it has realistic limitations to the amount of R&D humans would be capable of doing. And that's *_Without_* including a war of extermination on our hands!
I love that they didn't go with the tired trope of "we killed the mothership or queen so we win" but instead killing the ship only killed the alien air support and they still have to mop up the ground forces but now we have air superiority.
@@RoanokeGaming How about halo flood forms? Like you did with the Necromorphs but with each species and which roles each have? Also have ya gone over the small nercos that shoot those three spikes in low gravity? Not sure if they are dogs or not.
My grandpa loves war movies, and isn't much of a fan of Sci-fi related stuff. But when he came over to visit me and I put this on, he really enjoyed the movie. This is definitely a war movie that just so happens to have aliens and I'm glad that I got a sci-fi movie that we both like.
Awesome breakdown! I’ve always thought this movie was criminally underrated. I know a sequel delving into the lore will never happen but damn that’d be cool. Congrats on almost 600k!!
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Battle: Los Angeles was criminally underrated. It looked and felt like a realistic combat movie with aliens and not just another generic invasion movie. Apparently, it had a lot of military consultants and was made with the full cooperation of the United States Marine Corps. Many of the extras were active-duty and reservist Marines and the cast went through a smaller version of boot camp, too. I like how the ending shows humanity had won the battle, but the war still continues as the aliens are still out there and the main characters resupply themselves and head back out into the battlefield.
My recruiter was actually in the movie as an extra. He even said there was a big early screening of it at Camp Pendleton
Well said
I loved the movie
I remember the hype for this movie was unreal but seemed to disappoint a lot of people. Looks fun though.
I loved the song they used for the trailer.
“Dear Humanity... we regret being alien bastards. We regret coming to Earth, And we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!”
"Oorah!"
i appreciate that this actually describes battle LA
OOORAHH
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As a 19K, that tank crew on the highway fighting to the bitter end really resonated with me, we don’t say “death before dismount” for nothing
That M1 put in more work than most of the on-screen characters. I remember watching the scene frame-by-frame and found out that the only reason the tank got taken out was that they seemingly ran out of 120mm ammunition before popping the hatches and using their crew-served m240 and m2. The killing shot came from one of the aliens grenade launchers on the right side of the overpass. When said grenade launcher hit, the driver, loader, and commander were on top of the tank while the gunner got caught halfway out of the hatch. They held the line until the bitter end.
Hey man, I’m just curious because I’ve heard that old saying about tanks being a coffin for five brothers, how are you feeling about armor in the current Ukraine conflict? (No politics, only relevant info)
@@erich-cd7zu the tank itself isn’t obsolete, the way the Russians are using tanks is
Nothing on the battlefield offers the same combination of protection, mobility, and firepower as a main battle tank, but it needs to work in conjunction with other ground and air assets to work effectively
prolly because in a modern tank battle dismount = death. even if the tank is disabled, better to hang out inside the armored strongpoint until the shooting stops or a recovery team arrives
i wish it reversed tbh. They couldve stayed in the fight however there would be alot of unintentional mistakes in an alien invasion let alone a regular scenario on earth. They did the absolute best they could.
Battle LA is my top movies of all time, simply because it feels realistic. The way they act, the way they decided, and the way they united for a common enemy, hell even a civilian was brave enough to take arms to protect the soldiers.
It is criminally underrated. Should be given more attention.
Then you'll love The Salvation War. EBook. Very similar to Tom Clancy, with all the flaws that it implies, but a good war. Against _demons._
@@JoshSweetvaleDemons you say …….. sounds like Saturday in 40k universe.
It feels realistic if you have no idea what "real" is.
@@Chris.Davies Feeling realistic and being realistic is two different things completely... The only thing that is realistic, is... well... reality... simulations, media, movies, etc... they are only approximations... So every single movie on the planet is unrealistic...
If you want to be super pedantic....
Feel like you missed a beat with the design of the alien tech; it's all centered around fighting a land based opponent. They have enhanced legs, their heavy weapons walk, and their command center is quickly buried. It's hard to believe that they'd just design all that stuff to fight humans (waste of resources/time - can just drop rocks on us from orbit) so it'd seem to hint at their home planet situation. Presumably they're amphibian but mostly live in the water while their enemies were land based. Their almost immediate use of high ground, smoke, and hand signals also hints that their opponents couldn't climb very well but had excellent vision and hearing. Weapons and tech being grafted onto their bodies might also indicate that the enemy heavily scavenged from Landshark stuff - it's much harder to take and repurpose an enemy gun when the firing group is their own nerves and tendons - which might also indicate why their own tech looks so raggedy and unfinished when they're obviously capable of incredible technical achievements.
As for their need for water, I don't think it was for fuel as we'd consider it but rather that salt water (which would explain them choosing Earth and not say Europa or asteroid mining) was a vital biological component for them. When the water pumping heart is stabbed you can see the light and movement in the brain dims and slows, probably indicating a reaction was just deprived of energy.
Personal conjecture: On their homeworld they encroached on land that was already home to an intelligent, possibly primate-like, species with superior numbers and a propensity for scavenging any tech not nailed down and learned the hard way that transhumanism (transsharkism?) was the only viable route to survival. They obviously already had tactics for an amphibious assault and establishing coastal beach-heads and rudimentary aerial superiority but (given the events of the movie) largely lost out due to overspecialisation to an opponent with a more flexible mindset and skillset which could overcome their rigid doctrine.
This is honestly exactly what I thought, you just put it into words.
I actually don't think the weapons and tech being grafted was about scavenging. They are aquatic so it would make their soldiers able to move easier and faster in the water, without risk of losing equipment to things like riptide currents or underwater combat. Agree with the rest of your assessment.
@@azarinevil isn't that why we have slings in the first place, besides just carrying things by hand? It's literally the next evolution of weaponry besides forcing it to fully do everything, a good way to accidentally mix alien with terminator, a really cool concept now thinking about it.
As for me those aliens looked a lot like Cravers from Endless Space. Those are part biological part mechanicals constructs based on barely sentient animals. The sole reason for their creation is to act as self-sustaining and adaptive army\weapon. After their creators went extinct those "weapons" evolved into some kind of "race" which was set on conquest and was extremely aggressive toward anyone else. They had no proper society and used all the resources to fuel the expansion and war effort. So every planet they have conquered turned into barren husk pretty fast.
So, Landsharks look a lot like "separated limb" of some autonomous space army of artificial constructs who know no diplomacy and lack adequate goals. Hence specialization, in-built weaponry, grafted mechanical parts and tactics that is good for limited-scale conflict but unsuitable for full-blown war.
Water,especially sea water, has multiple purposes for a technological species. Hydration, breathing for an aquatic species with gills, coolant, it can be broken down into oxygen and hydrogen and used for combustible fuel, and sea water contains deuterium, which is useful for nuclear reactions and nuclear fusion.
Water is one of the most abundant resources in the universe, they could easily get it in the form of ice just about anywhere in the solar system. But they specifically came to Earth, which must mean they want the planet itself. It's not just about water, it's about colonizing. And we're only seeing the first wave of aliens; where are the colonists, the civilians? If they have 'castes' of warriors, officers, etc. then at the very least they have a similar system for engineers, technicians, farmers, etc. who have no business being in combat and thus would not be seen in the invasion itself, but would absolutely be necessary for the occupation of the planet.
These guys are desperate and have gone to desperate lengths to survive, resorting to extreme transhumanism/translandsharkism, and fleeing their home planet because they're on the losing side of a war. There's no way they didn't plan for long-term occupation of Earth and just randomly showed up to shoot anything that moved and loot our resources. They didn't bomb us from orbit and are shown to be making use of our infrastructure, including the electric grid and plumbing. They don't intend to build everything from scratch and are going to adapt our infrastructure for their use. Which also means they'll likely want humans to operate and maintain that infrastructure for them until they're established enough to build everything themselves. In real life, while invaders often destroy and depopulate entire cities (Genghis Khan, for example), they don't exterminate the entire population of the places they conquer: they need survivors to grow food, maintain roads and infrastructure, and pay taxes. So the aliens indiscriminately massacring every human they come across during the initial landing doesn't necessarily indicate they intend to kill every single human, or even the majority of humans. It could simply be that they don't know how dangerous humans are or who's a combatant and who isn't, and aren't taking any chances until they know better. They did, after all, grab a couple marines and drag them off to study them, the same way the marines grabbed an alien to study.
I like how the aliens act like actual smart military combatants they pull back their wounded and check to make sure their target is dead they also work together like actual soldiers
And they have fucking air support with drones lol
@@AC-iz7eh *MEAN WHILE IN STARSHIP TROOPERS UNIVERSE*
The movie was made to essentially be a war film that has aliens in it rather than an alien movie with a war, the idea was that the enemy could essentially be any human force but with the extra zest of having the cool sci fi spin on it
There not soldiers their Marines
@@Themanofkickbutt they are gay
I don’t think that the landsharks would sound distorted above water, mostly because I don’t think they’re fully aquatic. Semi aquatic would make much more sense considering how important combustion is to technological advancements.
I would guess they lived in the oceans, but went to land to hunt or raise young as it’s safer. Eventually, they discovered fire and how to make weapons and you have a semi aquatic technological civilization. So they would’ve evolved to live on both land and in the water. This lends further credence to why they chose earth: land surrounded by water. Since combustion is useful for technology, meaning I would guess a lot of their industrial capacity was on land while people largely lived in the water. But, this land is limited, so when factions arose and took over these landsharks industry, they had no options to rebuild elsewhere or reconquer their lands. So, they packed up all they had and went to another water world with land for industry, earth, and tried to do to us what the other faction did to them.
Though, this is just my idea, I could be wrong
I mean thats an interesting point actually
Bro this actually makes a lot of sense
Do you think it’s possible that other species they’re in conflict with were land dwellers that saw their encroachment onto land as a threat?
It's just my opinion, but isn't it just the heat they need, not the fire in itself? I mean isn't combustion just a form of heat? To melt and change things? If it's just the heat they can easily do it underwater, there is so many heat source in the ocean. I'm no science expert and maybe I'm wrong.
Is it me or are they literally evolved crabs? Everything seems to point out they were actually some species of crab.
One of the reasons I love this movie was because how realistic the aliens were acting and not just the old classic extermination bullshit with OP advanced weapons while humanity is running away. In this movie the Aliens were acting like real soldiers under an invasion. They established a beachhead, then from there they moved to other targets. They pulled their wounded out of the battlefield, and they were following orders from some kind of commanding officer on top of a vantage point where it could see everything. They also applied ambush tactics pretty well. They used drones efficiently to block against incoming attacks and took off once their command structure was compromised. The movie was definitely one of a kind, would've loved to see a proper sequel.
yea aliens that can travel across the galaxy still doing a beach invasion like its WW2 super realistic lol
@@Willppyro I heard that their weapons use water as resources and that water level dropped in the movie. Don't quote me though.
@@Willppyro eh, atleast it has strategy unlike other movies.
@@Willppyro it's always better to not go headfirst into enemy territory. In WW2 and the gulf war we had the ability to drop droops hundreds ofiles behind enemy lines but it's not worth losing a bunch of resources for nothing. Take a beachead and force your enemy infront of you.
@@Willppyro I mean they were there for water and appeared to be in a rush for it. Why drop inland when you can take the beach, secure it, then drain the water from the biggest body containing it on the planet while defending your drop zone?
I still want a second part of this movie.
Was the most realistic one in my opinion, nothing exaggerated, military seems to be displayed better than in any other movie and the aliens werent godlike enemies.
Hopefully it shows Earth as a unified force or shows a different country on the brink of collapse fighting back after they learn from the United States on how to destroy them.
i would absolutely love a sequel to the movie an invasion like that would take months or years to completely fend off
But Independence Day 2 was kinda disappointing though
@@riftsplitter2159 it is say that it takes 18 months before humanity manages to recover all their mayor cities and while the aliens still havent been fully defeated the intense fighting has stopped
@@AC-iz7eh Yes indeed. However, I like the fact they only did a first one. Keeps a lot of ideas running through your head.
I love the scene where they drop a grenade in the man hole, and the alien picks it up and looks at it like. "What's this device?" Boom
Yeah me too lmao
@jesus rodriguez spicy snowball fight
Time stamp?
@@bomiadept you have to watch the movie. Its when the main cast is heading to the alien base
@@pizzaman1852 oh, sorry
Roanoke's biological breakdowns are why I'm here, but his side-gig as a classic muscle car enthusiast is a lot of fun and I love seeing him identify cars by their year and model.
Never noticed that he's also a muscle car guy. Seemed odd to me at first when he identified a mustang in the tomorrow war.
i love how realistic the shootouts were with some aliens dying as they peek up to return fire and the one next to it glancing over for a second before sort of regaining focus and firing back, especially clumping together while moving back it gives the impression that they were in fact scared of death and also recognizing open firefights as dangerous and opting for ambushes instead, only feeling confident when they had armored support like that walker robot thing
I've always thought that the technology of the aliens in this movie looked "crude." Their equipment had exposed parts, missing armor, patched-on segments, jerry-rigged looking parts, etc. They definitely sold the idea that these guys were already on their last legs before they got here and that their invasion was a hail mary. They found the closest habitable planet with life that they thought they might have a chance to beat, and went for it. The alternative was probably enslavement or extinction. They really should have just negotiated.
Cortéz against the Aztecs.
@@JoshSweetvale Yeah but he wasn't on his least leg by any standards AND he negotiated with other native tribes. People don't realize Cortez and his conquistadors were really like an immortal advanced alien species. With their high end steel body armor they were impervious to the stone age clubs and arrows the natives used and with the excellent Spanish steel longswords and blunderbusses they easily cut through hordes of soldiers wearing plant armor and wooden weapons. Infact most conquistadors died of exhaustion from killing so many enemies or illness. It got to the point many conquistadors ditched their heavy plate armor for padded cloth armor with either chain mail or hardened leather over it because it was alot lighter and less restrictive while also almost completely protecting against the native weapons.
Yeah you hit the nail on the head RolyPoly, if they came and negotiated things would've worked out alot better. If they explained the threat they faced which in turn threatened us it could have resulted in a wonderful alliance where our resources, temporary safety, large numbers and relative technology paired with their incredible technology, desperation and supreme biology could have resulted in a golden age for both species and interesting movie about the two races taking on the species of existential threat for the landsharks.
@@Lotek117 humans, sadly. are historically xenophobic. as much as i wish we could negotiate with an alien race to let them live on our planet i dont think it would be so easy. i think it would be historic but there would be so much backlash and controversy. i think the aliens could live here, but theres people who dont like other humans cause of the color of thier skin. now think about if these people also knew literal aliens were on earth
@@Lotek117 That's a big fat fact
I'm pretty sure the director talked about how the reason the aliens are low-tech enough for us to fight them is because they're the equivalent of a third world militia in space terms.
Man, we gotta step our tech game up
@@jakobinobles3263 lol
That's one of the problems being the invading force in an intergalactic war. While your force is travelling to the target planet using current tech, due to time dilation when you reach them they will have already advanced their tech by then
I could just imagine a bunch of warrior like races seeing this and just fucking face palming these dumb ass militia bastards attacking a primitives' world and MIGHT having to go in and clap those alien cheeks.
Now this just makes me wonder what the first world type militia on their world is like….
My theory was that their flight through space took them very long and they simply didn't anticipate human technology to have evolved at such a high rate. I mean we made some pretty huge leaps during the last 200 years. And if a yourney through space takes you about 300 years, who knows what you'll find on the other side.
Imagine seeing the monkeys with spears and suddenly when u arrive, they now have prototype railguns
I swear I've seen that before, an alien species was planning on invading Earth but thought humanity was stuck in middle age technology, but when they got here it was WWII and humanity had advanced enough to resist and repel their invasion. Harry Turtledove made a book on that premise.
@@seomahazuri8999 Alien 1: Sir, this planet located in the Sol system has the resources that we need. But it seems to have some sort of dominant species
Alien general: What is the level of their technology?
Alien 1: Sharp metal sticks, sir. They also seem to wear metal casings
Alien general: Good. Should be easy enough. Then we're off!
(hundreds of years later)
Alien 1: So... it seems they have achieved the means to split atoms, sir
@@faizunasyraff3719 They can WHAT?
Like that book series about the lizard aliens that hit Earth in the middle of WWII
Imagine being the alien during that dissection scene. You’re a soldier sent to a foreign planet by your people and you land, take out some of them and get injured only to wake up and realize that your enemy is peeling your face off and tearing open your chest. They look at you like you’re weird or creepy and then they keep prying open your chest until they find your heart and ram a knife into it. That’d suck a lot
I sure hope it did. Fuck aliens
inhumane, but it's not like they're human or would do anything that doesn't violate geneva convention anyway
Alien 1: "So we just need water, right?"
Alien 2: "Right."
Alien 1: "And the galaxy is full of icy planets and asteroids we could mine for water, right?"
Alien 2: "Correct."
Alien 1: "And doing so would be a lot easier and less risky than, say, invading a planet with intelligent life on it, right?"
Alien 2: "What are you getting at?"
Alien 1: "... I want off this ship."
Maybe it's salty water they want and also to have land since they are amphibious and also need a place not too cold and hot and basically there's not many planets that fit that bill. They could also have chosen earth because we have lifeforms capable of sequestering different elements from the environment which will save them a lot of time developing machines to do this. The evidence for this is that the aliens are only killing humans and not other animals. So they might need them for food.
A smart alien never dies
It could be their plan was to deal with the intelligent life first, then harvest the rest of the solar system. If they harvested other bodies first, that would be a warning to Earth to start mass-producing nukes. Of course, the question then would be why they couldn't just drop rocks on Earth before they invaded.
Exactly! Water is the second most abundant compound in the Universe. Why on Earth would any remotely intelligent aliens invade an inhabited planet to get it, when there are countless icy asteroids and planets where it could be mined easily?
@@michaeldexter2544 I think it was stated that these aliens were part of the losing faction in a war on their planet and that their technology is not advanced enough and thus they neither have the resources nor time to mine asteroids and ice planets and instead gambled that humanity will not improve too much technologically by the time they get here and they become the apex species of Earth.
Ah, Battle L.A. The best XCOM movie we'll probably ever get.
No lady sneks though
xcom?
@@animuchan6136 its a game
Terror From the Deep but they come onto land.
@@StarmashVT Terror in The Shallows
Being in the Marine Corps my self I can honestly say that this movie had the most realistic depiction of how Marines are, from our comraderie, sense of humor, way we respond to contact etc etc
Only thing it didn't include was us spray painting the boot half black and half white and have him repeating lines from star trek for our amusement while filming it
The boot always gets the boot like that
Generation
Kill.
Do marines really call it an f-o-b? I was in the army. We just called it a fob. Just one word. didn't say each indivual letter.
@@gofastER nah dog, we call it fob (phob) too
@@gofastER too fucking lazy too spell it out like that
Theory: The aliens could be on the run from a higher tech species and are desperate for resources. They probably had to build makeshift ships to run or fight back because their dedicated warships and defenses were likely destroyed. This also explains why their ships look so raggedy and rundown.
Did the video not just explain that?
@tacotuesday2489 Not the part where they are running for their lives and had to build makeshift ships.
I think these aliens were fighting another species on a distant planet, and they were losing, and in order not to be without a planet, they invaded Earth in an improvised way and in any way!
So just the plot of Resistance the game
The fact that they seem to be a hive mind or drones implies they have more up their sleeve.
I've read too much hard sci-fi to think they're running from something.
They could just as easily harvest water on a dead planet. So why attack earth? Simple...
I think they want ALL the water. They want every once of water in our entire solar system.
Which means they have a massive civilization
Big fan of that Halo Background music ❤️
Same bro
Do you think Roanoake could do a vidoe on the Destiny Fallen or Eliksni?
yo what up dude!
Same dude
LNG hello I love your videos and I laughed so hard when I saw you playing cursed halo Lol
my head canon to this movie is that they're the enemy aliens that were hunting the battleship movie aliens LOL, after they intercept the signal sent by the battleship aliens lol, they invaded earth
Same, honestly. It would make sense given that the ones from Battleship are humanoid and come from an aquatic planet
I like this theory thankoo
That's actually a logical theory, I like it
I was just thinking about that. Because in Battleship, they show a scene of a war and those creatures remind me of these ones lol. 10/10.
Epic.
Battle: LA is easily my favorite alien invasion movie. There was a large amount of effort put into making it.
Hool Hortler 👌
I think its my second, Independence day takes the cake
@@mangofett6210 Independence Day is fun, but i enjoy the boots on ground element of Battle LA more
@@NMdesertrat that is a good point, both have different warfare elements. Like Red tails compared with Fury
The goal apparently was to have filmmakers from different nations make their own countries perspective of the invasion but it didn't catch on.
I noticed that that in my first viewing, the aliens pulling their wounded from the battle. I actually really liked that. It may seem simple, but it really gave the aliens a bit of personality to them.
*MEET THE MEDIC*
I like the idea that other societies developed more into transportation and communication technology to explore the universe while humans leaned into weapons technology instead. It’s fun to imagine our weapons being considered massively overkill and lethal compared to others
The idea humanity basically tech rushed military is a concept I can appreciate.
@@djmustang000 haha look at the primitives! They havent even gotten past their moon, look at thoose cute little rockets, still using chemical rockets to ferry people to orbit? Eyo why the rocket aimed at us, ayo why do they have rad sigs? DID THE MOTHER SHIP JUST TURN INTO A STAR?!!!!
Why the fuck do they have floating nuclear-powered cities launching fast bois at us? Why do the fast bois have multiple different EM bands coming off em? Why the fast bois shooting smaller fast boi- *dead*
@@NiteckterX I was confused like "What do you mean floating nuclear-powered cities? We haven't invented that sort of space tech yet." And then I realized you were talking about carriers XDDDDDD
There is actually a short story like the one you just mentioned. I believe it is called "The Road Less Traveled". Where aliens invade earth as part of an empire but while capable of using space traveling ships, their weapons were something closer to what you would see in the early 1800s with muskets.
Alien commander: "Men, as you know the most important element of warfare is surprise... SURPISE" (drops soldiers and mechs on asteroids)
Feels like every mission under that alien commander is a suicide mission.
Well they did surprise them by hiding as asteroids
"Many of you may die but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
1 person represents the air force, I think 2 for the army, literally like 90% of the movie's military units the marines, coast guard the one ship that just gets decked by a meteor to start with... which I guess can be metaphor for what everyone thinks about the coast guard. Navy was who knows where.
well i guess the alien also have their own Zapp Brannigan as commanding officer...
The smartest decision in this movie goes unnoticed with the fact that it's a VETERINARIAN who does the autopsy on the alien drone. It's something a lot of Sci-Fi series glance over with regard to understanding the biology of other alien species. Too many series equate human anatomy to every intelligent creature encountered, and assume too much by projecting our understanding of physiology onto them when in all actuality how completely wrong it might be.
Exactly
The best ones to go over an alien biology would be biologists,zoologists and vets due to their fields as an alien life form would first of all more than likely be anything but close to a human so instead use the studies and knowledge of other life forms and possibilities could connect the aliens to the prior animals on earth or the possible ones we’ve dreamt of,instead of wasting time trying to find equations to humans
@@spacetacos7574 I think the only other Sci-Fi show that did this was "Futurama" in the episode when Fry is stuck on Omicron Percei 8. They take him to the vet because he's Jrrr's pet.
yea because we THINK that humanoid as we are is the most efficient form there is, thus we BELIVE that we will encounter aliens rather similar to us. No Bugs to be found here (sadly that means no shivans either, but vasudans? We gonna fight them for 14 years straight around 2400 - 2500 AD (wich means in like 400 years). THAT is what scientists BELIVE, wich CLEARLY will prove wrong.
It's not an autopsy: the alien they captured was still (mostly?) alive, making it a vivisection, and also possibly a war crime.
@@LN997-i8xThere's no Geneva Convention in space
I love these videos I've been bingeing on this channel for 3 days now, good to see I'm not the only 1 that watches movies/tv shows and breaks them down into bits either making sense and explaining stuff or accidentally disproving things.
I think battle la is the most accurate depiction of how an alien invasion would go because it’s super vague and that’s how it would be irl I think
Except that these groups of aliens were desperate and executed a scuffed invasion. A fully prepared invasion would decimate the earth.
@@69Kazeshini I got two theroies for this:
1) Perhaps they were fighting their own, galactic-scale war elsewhere and decided to invade Earth as a last resort possibly due to them losing ground to whoever they are fighting. It's a huge risk as starting a war with another civilization that wasn't involved in the first place could lead to more, unecessary losses and possibly open up another front they can't manage because of tight resources. However, they needed the fuel so who ever was in command decided to try their luck.
2) They are a mercenary / pirate faction that decided to invade Earth for their own gains or on behalf of a client. They are trained but possibly arrogant.
Eitherway, I get the impression that the force that invaded Earth isn't even the whole fleet. And after the events of the film, I doubt they would pour more resources to completely occupy the planet. Just take what they can get and get out. After all, their bases don't seem to be designed for permanent enplacement. If they really wanted Earth, they probably would have conducted covert infiltration and sabotage ops prior to bringing in the main fighting force. If not simple recon missions. We would not last a week if that.
@@69Kazeshini that is true if an alien race did invade earth they would first gather intel and know that the human race is very adaptable and WILL go down a suicide nuke everything path if it looks as if we will be overwhelmed so our nukes and world wide communications would be the two things that they would get rid of first they would also abuse our lack of knowledge about them
@@69Kazeshini it really depends, the aliens on the film don't seem like an apropiate military force but more like a military that scavenges and uses whatever it has at hand, it seems more like the kind of military you would expect from a struggling third world nation than a super power like the US, their technology seems bulky and heavy and their cibernetic upgrades looks really rugged and just bolted on, and even with that they gave humanity a hard time
And the lore seems to support this, this guys arent a proper military force but the survivors of one, basically we are fighting a decimated and weakened space army that just lost it's own war and are desperate for resources
@@carso1500 the land sharks could just be space Somalia expanding their pirating territory
I'll join the cacophony and say that I loved this movie and hate that it was so panned. The fact they had so much lore to go with it and nothing else came of it just makes me angrier. What they presented in the movie was enough to keep me wanting more (along with the mostly accurate depiction of military procedure). Thanks for this one, Roanoke!
Roanoke: “Soldiers”
Marines in a 200 mile radius: [Angry Sounds]
Wasn’t there an airman with them? What’d the collective term for marines and one of those be?
@@fileoffish1403
To break things down:
Air Force = Airmen
Navy = Sailors
Army = Soldiers
Marine Corps = Marines
National Guard = Guardsmen
Also ya, there was a couple of Soldiers and Airmen with them. As a collective, no clue, I’d assume troops?
@@justsomeguy6314 * sad coastguard noises *
@@pauldelrosario5888 *sad space force noises*
The Guard has Army and Airforce so they would just be called Airmen or Soldiers.
I really liked how the aliens in this film weren't just overpowered monsters and actually used militaristic strategies. I also like how their technology isn't crazy advanced like other alien movies with spacecraft that defy the laws of physics. The alien aircraft in this film actually had visible sources of propulsion such as rocket boosters.
Its a really grounded form of alien invasion. I think Battleship did this well, too.
Though, the aliens are pretty stupid to invade earth when they could just start a mining operation on Europa or some other planet or moon with ice or water.
This movie was just ahead of it's time.. I thought they were supposed to be a series of films focusing on different fronts of the global invasion. The title, Battle: Los Angeles was supposed to be the first in a franchise like the mcu. Battle: New York, Battle: London, Battle: Tokyo... Could've been fun
so is it canceled or still in the making
@@piglin469 I demand fan flicks.
That's what i was hoping for! That they make sequel from other countries perspectives or just the U.S coming to other countries rescue.
Battle:For Earth
Kinda smells like a Netflix original series to me.
I love how the alien's weak spot ended up being the center of the chest where a human's heart would be. That's where armed forces personnel are trained to shoot (center of mass).
Most reliable? The head may or may not be more deadly, but is much harder to hit.
@Ozpin But that also bothered me: If “center of mass” is supposed to be the aliens’ weakness, why weren’t they going down as easily when everyone was literally _Already_ shooting them on their “weak spot” ? :/
@@UGNAvalon Because its much much easier to armor a torso than a head... Hell even with modern ballistics helmets you could get domed by a 120 year old rifle and get a broken neck from the force...
@@happyjohn354 You seem to be missing my point. The humans were *_Already_* "aiming for center mass" *_Before_* they learned of the aliens' weakness, but for whatever reason, that was ineffective. And then they discover "we need to aim for center of mass" and suddenly their bullets are way more effective now??
Getting shot in the head (armored or not) has nothing to do with this. :P
@@UGNAvalon Simple they know the weak points in the torso armor after cutting them open... It looked like most of the "armor" around the weak spot is made of bone and fleshy material likely because they couldn't encase the beating organ in sub dermal metal armor like the rest of the torso.
So the entire torso is not a weak point just a portion about the size of a softball from the front and its still not entirely unarmored either so it might save them from a glancing hit.
And the headshot is an analogy for how easy it is to armor a torso their weak point compared to ours.
dude the lore in this movie is sick, kinda gives me the impression that the movie was supposed to be from the aliens' perspective at one point or something
Nah it's our prespective. We see so many movies where we know what the Aliens are doing and we forget that it all likelyhood, we're not going to have Hollywood Cameras on their Mothership to tell us what their goal is. It's nothing but confusion on our end.
For the most part its just Hollywood that makes alien movies with almost zero lore. A lot of sci fi books go crazy with the lore since a lot of the authors are people that truly care about things they are writing about other then America > Aliens
More likely it was intended to launch a franchise, so they put time and effort into making sure the 'badguys' were fleshed out enough to make that easy. They frankly read as written up for use in videogames, RTS or FPS.
I really like how the alien soldiers act like actual soldiers and not like npcs in a video game
Battle LA is that movie we always saw for free in streaming services and never watched.
Its definitely worth a watch!
I watch it all the time, it's way underrated
@@thequietstag4366 Agreed.
I watched it in cinemas back in the day
It's interesting seeing throughout the movie you can see them communicate with eachother via hand gestures and the like, it definitely makes them stand out and feel more interesting to watch ontop of seeing them react to say getting injured like the other operator ducking clutching his wound after he's hit helping the other one with the walking gun
I guess a way to sum it up is they feel more human? That they aren't mindless soldiers among all 4 castes
@@Oppen1945 mhm! But you still get a sense of desperation with their attacks, like the one warriors gun jamming seeing him hitting his gun to get it working
It's the body language and details that adds so much
The filmmakers said they didn't set out to make "an alien movie," they set out to make "a war movie, with aliens." A *lot* of attention to detail went into this.
A lot of vets I've known really enjoy the movie as a result.
@@AJadedLizard oh absolutely you can tell so much detail was put into both sides in how they approach combat
@@thecrtf4953 somebody else said a lot of active duty and reserve members of the usmc aka marines baby! And had many consultants too
The details are very human which balances out the non-human look so it makes the film work well.
Biologically speaking we have our brains near our sensory organs for a reason basically it's too reduce latency as is common in most animals with some exceptions
Have to agree especially hearing and eyesight which are vital for detection of threats and food.
why we need heads?
@@pyrodes Because being able to point your sensory organs at whatever you want without needing to move your whole body is immensely valuable.
I wonder what the Landsharks did to maintain effective latency.
That might acsually explain their seemingly poor reaction speed. Not just that the landsharks are at least more fit to live under water and the od to us place to their brain, thes creatures reactios are not as snapy and precise as ours.
As too seem that instead of precition the aliens faevored spray and pray style as the more advanced where more precition shooters.
Although it felt short at the box office, This movie had an incredibly ambitious concept and scope. We need more original IPs like this
I liked Battle: Los Angeles because it explored one of my favorite Sci Fi aphorisms, from Larry Niven:
"But the [aliens] learned the hard way that the reason humanity had [tried to give] up war was that they were so very, very good at it."
It could be that aliens are so gentle, they end up disturbed at our behavior. WW1 and WW2 are disturbing even to humans, how about aliens.
@@the11382 and their response is to abruptly hit us with 30 times the violence of those wars?
@@whiteface513abandonedchann8 If aliens were to hit us with 30 times the violence we already show eachother, we'll just hit them with 60 times. Humanity has been waging ceaseless war for over 100,000 years. We know how to kill. Every Human, regardless of their feelings on violence, has the capacity to perform extreme, gruesome acts of violence when necessary. It's built into our very genetics. War is a genetic evolution.
@@NorthernNorthdude91749 I literally never asked that. And yes of course a human is _physically_ capable of violence, that comes with having a range of motion at all. What I'm saying is, if aliens are disturbed by us being hyper-violent as a species, why would their response be to hit us with way more violence than even we've caused before?
@FarSeeker8 You’ll love “Humans Are Space Orcs” ;D
This is a pretty underrated movie, it was really fun to watch and the concept of aliens stealing water is pretty damn plausible
Edit: Roanoke senpai noticed me
I mean, water is pretty great! but also relatively easy to make too lol
@@RoanokeGaming I mean are gonna forget you need 2 elements that I think would be easy to find on other planets to make water?
They would have traveled past an entire asteroid field filled with water to get here
Water is one of the most abundant resources in the universe. Hydrogen and Oxygen are one and three in terms of most abundant elements. Starting a war for water is a broken concept.
@@jameshallam3221 yeah but it would be frozen, and what if they’ve already been harvesting the asteroids before they came to Earth? Most water in the universe is frozen to a point where it would take more energy to melt it than it’s worth. AND if they invade an inhabited, intelligent world, then they’ve probably already used a lot of water and are desperate enough to go to war, ESPECIALLY if they’re lowering THE OCEAN LEVEL, then these guys use A LOT of water.
"Insects may have evolved to the level of intellect that humans have obtained"
They already have, sort of. Ants are then most efficient pathfinders and logisticians on Earth that we know of. They also have 'mentors' that teach new workers how to do their jobs even going as far as getting them a new job as they age and lose their aptitude for their current one.
Ants are effing amazing.
Ants have "collective intelligence". Their aggregate behavior creates patterns but individually they can only do what they've been programmed to. Separate an ant from the hive for a while and it'll turn into a bumbling buffoon.
If you kidnap Einstein and put him in solitary, he would still be Einstein.
Don't start reading up on what bees can do, not if you want to sleep at night
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 are you sure ?would you like to see what happens to someone in solitary with no contact to others? Humans and ants aren't so different after all ants are just smarter
@@KikogamerJ2 Being in isolation reduces your social and conversational skills. You don't suddenly forget how to do math. But you're right, ants are smarter than you lot.
@@MinecraftMasterNo1 so you think someone has 100 % great mental health after staying a year in isolation?like people during the pandemic coudlnt survive a week at home?looks like you are the sharpest of the knifes are you?
The coolest part of these aliens to me personally was their avid use of pulse rockets. They just seemed so diesel punk and technologically advanced and primitive, if that makes any sense.
A bit like steampunk advanced and primitive at the same time
What’s scary is how these guys are the *losing* side of the war on their home world. That means whoever they were fighting against pose a bigger threat than the sharks.
And humans Absolutely Destroyed them if we used real life Military.
I mean, the other side doesn't have to be technologically superior to these aliens, they are most likely the same species. In fact, Maybe these aliens do not have a unified planetary government. maybe they have wars between each other just like humans do. and perhaps the force that tried to invade the Earth was a Government in exile trying to relocate to a new planet.
Huh, so water is like their blood? How weird would that be to look through a telescope one day and see a planet that is almost entirely made of blood. I don't think I'd want to go there if I could help it
Vampires: excited bleh bleh bleh noises
Sea Stars actually don’t have blood, instead using water as a substitute to pump vitals across their body
@Rauno-Rainis Pähkel Yup, and it would also make medical transfusions a lot simpler given you just need more water to replace blood loss.
Dude.. that pretty brutal
So, they basically invaded a place that (to them) resembled a bloodsoaked hellscape.
Story summarized: aliens were being abused at home so they started bullying the quiet kid in school.
Dam
Honestly always felt like the “land sharks” are a cast taken for thier organ structure, by another species.
It had a Combine vibe, especially with their Ariel support being drones, and the surgical alterations.
I see a lot of negative reviews about this movie, yet I enjoy the heck out of it!
Watched multiple times, and now I'm itching to watch it again. 🤣
It’s awesome, and really doesn’t deserve all the negative reviews thrown at it. It’s like Black Hawk Down but with aliens, which is an extremely cool idea and it’s pulled off pretty damn well in my opinion
It is such a good movie, one of my favourite alien invasion films
I think cos the marketing was aimed at Jocks and not nerds as it should have lol
I've watched it well over 20 times and still have not gotten tired of it lol. I'll watch it another 20. One of favorite movies and definitely my top alien invasion movie. Great acting to imo.
@Mr. Pecker's Finnish knife adoration society what was those games because when I was younger I enjoyed cod black ops 3 campaign in which I found out it was confusing
The human soldiers found a wounded alien, dragged it into the building with them, and started cutting it apart to study its anatomy and learn how to kill it more efficiently.
Now think back to the marines who got grabbed by alien intelligence caste in the first firefight and dragged off, never to be seen again.
They were prob executed since these aliens just wanted to kill all humans
@@enderlinde3152 They didn't need to grab living humans and drag them away to execute them, that's what guns are for.
They were doing the same thing the marines did to the wounded alien they captured: cutting them apart to see the most efficient way to kill them.
Ngl even though they are aliens that must be like a terrifying warcrime to them lol
@@Swindle1984 I thought they killed the alien who dragged that guy in the streets. Cuz I don’t recall them counting any dead members, just wounded members. Lowkey if they did cut him up that would be a horrible way to die. Now I feel really bad if they didn’t get to kill the alien who dragged that guy
@@Kriscuit_Bonkin there was 2 instances of Marines getting dragged away. One happened on first contact: using the smoke and confusion the landshark dragged someone away. Later in the backyard scene it almost happens again but the ssgt rescues him
"Calling a c-130 a B-52"
You understand that's like calling a humvee a prius.
He’s also calling Marines “soldiers”
@@YourMom-rk1me speaking of, need to hide my damn crayons.
@@YourMom-rk1me By definition, yes they ARE Soldiers
@@LunarisCainLegacy "Soldier" means a person who serves in an army, the US Marine Corps is a distinct branch from the army, and are a part of the Department of the Navy.
@@diobrando2575 Its still a Soldier no matter what. Its just a pathetic Entitlement to make themselves Unique and Separated from the Traditional Terms.,
Personally, I love Battle LA! I really hope we get a solid sequel one day!
This movie is one of the best alien/war movies ever. I really liked that the Aliens were not hyper-advanced, just different advanced compared to us. They use projectile weapons, reasonable tactics, the "drone" air power makes a lot of sense (we're moving closer to that ourselves), and they die.
The scene where they rip out the alien's guts and finally kill it by popping some shit is so hilarious.
Like, you sure he didn't just die of blood loss or something?
I always imagined the absolutely agonizing death that thing went through, SLOWLY HAVING ITS CHEST RIPPED OPEN BY MONKEYS!
@@jakobinobles3263 the filthy xenos deserve nothing less
@@inquisitionagent9052 yes brother purge the Xenos until there is nothing left
@@egrim9573 for the emperor
@@jakobinobles3263 than maybe don’t invade a planet already inhabited by living creatures who don’t know how to kill you
its actually really hard to detect meteors, especially if theyre infront of the sun since the light completely blocks out out visibility
oh yah its hard, but hopefully we could detect them more than a day out lol
@@RoanokeGaming it really just depends, alot of the small asteroids we dont detect at all, and the ones we do detect with no more than a day of notice. if aliens did invade with small enough drop ships we literally wouldnt notice untill theyre on our shores
@@MagikarpMan if I were to guess, the reason is a story reason, as a way of highlight that these meteors where Unusual, without coming out and saying it.
That and the sky is bloody massive.
@@hmshood9212 your absolutely right
Also Belfast best girl
This movie is seriously underrated. I was so glad I went to see this in theaters.
The thing I liked about this movie was the aliens tech wasn’t space magic they fired conventional rockets mixed with some kind of concussion sonic blast, their exosuits weren’t power ranger/iron man suits, but more like the Call of duty advance warfare exo rigs which are based off of current prototype exo suits. Basically they possessed tech in the realm of existing irl without breaking the laws of physics. They’re kinda like a smaller slimed down version of the cabal from destiny.
Grineer from Warframe come to mind too
@@SailorPupitar if only the Marines had found the alien invaders version of Clem to ally with.
Someone mentioned that in terms of the galactic scale, their basically a third world country. So humans got really lucky that one of the less advanced species decided to invade
@@thetowerofbabble6307 lol damn we got invaded by space Somalia. So they’re more like the Fallen from Destiny, once a super power reduced to nomadic bandit gangs just struggling to survive.
@@michaelfawaz6483 if what some people guessed is correct, they were on their last legs and tried to invade us for our planet, not the just the water.
Just a thought, if the species is aquatic, wouldn't the exoskeleton be indicative of a crustacean or mollusks instead of insectoid?
Well, in the end it really wouldn't matter. They're arthropods regardless
Spider is just crab of land.
Not necessarily. There are several instances of marine insects on Earth, most of which mostly stay near the surface. And, this is of course assuming that life on this planet took similar evolutionary paths to Earth. It is entirely possible and even plausible that insect analogues on another planet could have evolved to take advantage of marine niches in the same way that crustaceans and mollusks on Earth evolved to take advantage of terrestrial niches.
Pretty sure he meant the Exoskeleton is mechanical, grafted onto their bodies, or more like their bodies were grafted onto it.
@@MikMoen My headcanon was that they were some kind of octopus like creature, and had to essentially graft themselves onto a mechanical skeleton to be able to function on land. Or possibly on earth's gravity.
As a Canadian, I can confirm that we're ready to do this to y'all at any given moment
Do what to who?
@@PapaBuffalo this invasion, to the rest of humanity
please wipe out California lol do us all a favor
My country is landlocked so no landing spot for you. Checkmate
Fire in the hole, aye?
Man after finding your channel I'm being reminded of a lot of old ideas of mine for movies, shows, books and games that feature interesting biology going on. With this video at 15:04 the idea of two intelligent species or races inhabiting a planet dragged my memory on something I didn't even take the time to write down. There's probably more probable methods for a situation like that.
Stuff like: very recent common ancestor, with the two branches falling into the same niche or similar enough niches in separate regions.
One formed and then uplifted the other, like we are doing with our pets or one started and then the other gained intelligence because of the habitat changes brought on by urbanization from the first, (I think the intelligence increase of both corvids and octopi fall into the second).
My idea is a game of cat and mouse with predator and prey resulting with both rising to something similar to what we call sapience.
In my particular world building the predator is pretty carnivorous because it lacks a portion of ability to synthesize its own vitamins, like the human B12 situation. They would be classified as something between mammal and reptile having both fur snake like scales, are warm blooded or cold blooded depending on the season, (space travel will likely mess up that internal clock,) has a ventilated storage "stomach" or crop, (because living prey keeps longer,) mammary glands and despite forming the embryo in a womb can detach the placenta and form an egg for the young to gestate in for up to half the gestation period. Looking like a predatory version of an iguanodon. (Most of my stuff has this personal trope of let's throw a whole new category between mammal and reptile in. Most of the creatures could be just classified as mammal like we did the platypus, but I would love to hear the justification of reasoning for that.) The prey origin species is a mostly herbivorous omnivore, a small ruminant with the other stomach chambers containing the enzymes for meat, they are a classic mammal and look like what you would get if you took raccoons and had them grab a few notes on athleticism from hares and felines. Both of these species would move to arboreal habitats as one attempted to evade the other in the trees, with the predator developing apposable thumbs in this stage.
The defining moment for the two species would be a disease that both would be infected by with the prey species having little difficulty in eliminating it and the predator's immune system being unable to develop a counter to it before it's done too much damage. The chance genetic trait that allowed the predator species to go on to become sapient was the membrane of the crop became thin enough for the prey's antibodies to enter their blood. Before the disease this trait was a hindrance to survival, those with this trait would be able to fight off the disease with the prey creature bleeding in their crop, and among those that survived the most successful we're the ones who had the prey species persist the longest in their crop. That success influenced mating behaviors, and hunting habits. After the disease either mutated to a less harmful form or ran out of non immune populations the prey would develop a strategy that would render them harder than other prey items to hunt. By the time language was starting to form the prey species was almost exclusively hunted by the predator for mating rituals that could be summarized as catch, ingest and release. A common language was developed from both species listening and intuiting the meaning of behind the others noises. With language came bargaining, with bargaining came cooperation and names... I've finally decided on: the semi reptiles would be called "People-Stealers" and the ruminants "Trophies" in the common language. Almost parallel to the development of a common language between the two intelligent species languages specific to their separate vocal architectures are established.
In the hunter gatherer stage, a portion of the Trophy population, near the seed of civilization for this world, would help the Stealers hunt in exchange for protection when they gather. These two cooperating populations had higher empathy for the other species, and would continue to develop more sympathy. The agricultural revolution that led to civilization began when a large herbivore was penned for later consumption. The introduction of stockpiling livestock lead to permanent food stockpiles for the Trophies and the growing of large grain grass. Trade began in earnest when the settling Trophies traded tokens to be guarded during sewing and harvest, which could be exchanged for favors and feed for livestock. Bread and cooking meat was discovered relatively close to each other, with sandwiches quickly developing as a staple food filling the overlapping diets. While this civilization was starting the majority of Stealers lived as hunter tribes in conflict with Trophy gatherer tribes. In this conflict weapons and hide and pelt armor would be developed. One of the Stealer tribes near the budding civilization launched a raid on it overwhelming their kin that was guarding the farms, as they were only equipped to scare off predators, proceeding to round up the Trophies working in the field to enslave and steal the livestock from their holding pens. This ended up leading a civilization of Stealer dominancy in conflict with a civilization of cohabitation.
I've got a treat for those of you who've made it this far, cohabitation ends up being the winning strategy, and in their version of the modern era some nerd finds the original common language and literal meaning for the Trophies and tries to get some cross species action with a terrible pick up line.
underrated, you really let your imagination run wild
“Banding together increases survival of the species”
So…Why didn’t they come to the humans peacefully and say “Hey. We’ve been kicked off our planet because we’re kinda the underdogs and we need water to survive. If you give us some of your water, we’ll give you our tech”
pretty sure those dumb leaders won't understand shit and start the war
IIRC, something in the lore stated that they expected humanity to have a roughly 19th Century level of technology. They were just as surprised to see sophisticated armored vehicles and air support as we were to see them using power armor and absurd amounts of drones. They went in figuring it was easier to start exterminating the locals only to realize too late that the locals had developed communications technology and would put up _much_ stiffer resistance than expected.
@@jimmyseaver3647 but if they had tapped into human radio and had technology such as space travel and drones then they would easily have the tech for things like satellites
Either that or why didn’t they develop an infiltrator unit and use it to scout humanity?
@@irinashidou9524 It probably stems from their limited resources and general desperation and resultingly the inability to think straight. They _needed_ an easy conquest, and if their leadership knew humanity had advanced more rapidly than expected and admitted it, they'd face a revolt considering their troops are just as fond of not dying in some pointless slaughter as human troops. They probably didn't have much in the way of probes, either, which meant that they were only able to deploy one or two and assumed that things would remain relatively static until their arrival.
@@jimmyseaver3647 “think straight” yet they’re fully capable of issuing tactics and orders
I remember being surprised that this movie wasn’t even bad. It had a real Neil Blomcamp feel to it like district nine but if the aliens were bad
You could say that this movie is a sequel to dist9 as the aliens come back to avenge what happened to their people.
Meh, it was fine until the police station. THAT is when the writing went to shit.
I’m glad you brought up humans caring for one another. It’s actually incredibly that we’re the only species that constantly put insane amounts of effort into caring for other species, and feeling responsible for them. We occasionally see this in nature, but it’s more common to see animals like zebras murdering their own if a female bred with another partner, and the countless types of animal wars. But that such a high % feels a deep connection and desire to try to take care of, support other species is insane ( just number wise)
also opposable thumbs
To be fair, that's also because we can afford it. Wild animals don't have the luxury of spending time and resources for complete strangers. Only social species do, and only for their own small group, not even for the entire species.
The start of civilization is now even considered not be the time humans start using fire, but the archaeological evidence of healed-up femur bones. Injury, that is usually a death sentence to an animal, because you cannot feed (or defend) yourself for the time the healing process need to last, meaning other members of the tribe cared for the injured one.
Actually if you watch in the movie the aliens drag their wounded away from firefights so that's cool
My favorite scene from this movie was when the alien drags the wounded one out of combat. Made it such a better alien invasion movie.
Same for me. It "humanised" them and turned them from faceless disposable drones from (insert generic superhero movie name here) into an actual realistic fighting force with personality. Suggested also that attrition was a concern for them and if the numbers given in this video are correct would make sense.
@@mickeyboyracer they were a losing force of a previous war that’s why they were so desperate to take over earth
I love how all these movies take an alien invasion and make it look like militaries would be completely overwhelmed. But I mean physics is still physics. I don't care what armor you're wearing, you get slapped with a crew served .50 and it's at the very least knocking your butt down and doing some bad damage to internal organs. People also conveniently forget about the balloon effect and other various bodily damages as a result of being close to explosions.
To be fair, assuming an alien invasion literally just came outta nowhere, militaries would be completely overwhelmed especially if said aliens have prior intel (which they likely will) and have more advanced technologies. But in a situation like Battle LA where the tech and *tactics* are about same-ish, then they need shock and awe (or significantly overwhelming numbers) to keep the momentum going and prevent the defenders from re-oganizing
I think it more depends on the aliens anatomy and how they coordinate, and if they have any prior intel on the military status, and weaponry of the humans so they could find a way around being destroyed easily.
I mean, against human flesh, a lot of the devastation from a bullet is caused by hydrostatic shock. Depending on composition, alternative lifeforms might not actually be subject to hydrostatic shock, in which case a bullet would be no more dangerous than having a firepoker slowly stabbed through you. Still not great, but very unlikely to be consistently lethal. Against material targets, we have armour that can withstand 50 cal fire indefinitely right now. Not man portable for sure but aliens don't need to be the same size as us.
“Big rock thrown slow same as little rock thrown very fast.”
Clearly they underestimate just how bloodthirsty humanity really is.
I've seen this movie dozens of times and yet I still enjoy it, the combat feels more intense and chaotic, the aliens seem to actually have a personality to them, I especially like that humanity doesn't immediately get torn apart by the aliens and actually are given a fair fighting chance, further more humans don't just know how to fight them right away and actually have to learn the biology of said Aliens.
Overall-very underrated moved, I honestly enjoyed both this video and the movie.
1:54 as an LA native. Nah bro, this is just how LA looks like on a regular Tuesday.
*Aliens land in Russia*
Russia: *Snows* "welcome to hell aliens."
Aliens: *didn't even get a chance to get off their pots or etc*
God forbid they land in winter
Considering they need water, their air force are the only things that can get far,
Russia is hell
@@godleftmeraw89 wouldn't the control thing or guy or alien that controls the Aliens wouldnt be already frozen to death.
@@starsjosephfrost they should be smart enough to try and coat themselves, but that form of effort wouldn't matter if they're gonna get assblasted before they could even attack lol
@@godleftmeraw89 yep LOL . Everyone looses at Russia, Napoleon, The germans, the Americans, british, french, and White army soldiers (Russian Civil war 1917 - 1922) the Nazis, and maybe the aliens in 201X I forgot what year this took the movie.
Normally I’d tell you all about my own experience, but this time it’s just me preemptively saying:
Congratulations on 600,000 Subscribers!
You deserve every single one of them with your hard work and scientific explanations. Hopefully one day I hit even 1/6th of that.
Just so you know that comes across as self centered and saying congratulations doesn't make you any bit humble when you grief directly after. :p
@@oddworldenthusiastnate4084 I’m not at all humble, I live an interesting life 😎 Roanoke is just a cool dude.
I’ll subscribe
@@Maxxim218 thank you kindly!
@@oddworldenthusiastnate4084 Couldnt have put it in a better way
The alternative is slower. Learn the language, negotiate minor technology in return for land use to set up a colony. Then exploit existing tensions between native groups to gradually push out and claim more territory on behalf of your native allies but ultimately for your exclusive use. Doesn't hurt to use a little deniable biological warfare to weaken the natives and claim even more territory in the name of an humanitarian effort. Very effective, but slow, so I have to assume the Landsharks were under a time constraint.
Maybe they're trying to escape something and earth is just a quick gas stop
Divide and conquer?
Call the Brits
@@sidharthcs2110 well it's the same people every single time
Reminds me of the Gears of War Locust dilemma. Fighting the lambant and forced to fight a two front war with humanity for survival.
@@sidharthcs2110 they are to busy fight the *FROGS*
The way you explain your videos and add scientific theories etc is amazing, loving this channel!
"humans care for each other."
Proceeds to show murder clip from 2001 a Space Odyssey lol
We care for each other just not for Steve in the other tribe. He's an ass.
Given their body augmentation, I think there are three possibilities: these grafts seem rather messy an unorthodox, so perhaps the land sharks we see were cobbled together in approach as more information about the planet they were invading was gathered. It is also possible that they were fighting a land-based enemy, possibly a colonization attempt that turned into an extinction-level war. Given their extensive self-mutilation, it’s also likely that they belong to a certain mindset among their people, one that sought perfection through technology, and one that clashed violently with a more “nature’s design is best” faction that ran them off.
No meltdown in the comments for him calling "Marines" "Soldiers" ? What a calm and collected community. I'm proud of yall! 😊
I was going to, but in the end who cares tbh
Came to blow up about this. But it's not worth it. Not on youtube.
You beat me to it.
There were 3 National Guardsmen that joined the Marines a third way through the movie so technically....
They technically are still soldiers going by the definition of "soldier" instead of US military terminology. "Soldier" comes from Old French "soudeour" meaning "mercenary" (literally "shilling's worth")
The concept of alien invasions has always fascinated me. Despite the absolutely terrifying possibilities, I think it would be a very interesting event for humans in a social aspect. I mean as much as we dedicate our time and efforts in discovering new and interesting ways to destroy each other, the fact is we all know how we'd react to a existential threats towards us. We are still animals, and we would fight tooth and nail for the preservation of our species.
Wow! Never thought you’d touch on this!
I love this movie! If rewatch it anytime. The movie felt realistic enough, and it wasn’t a generic *ah damn humanity loses again* scenario. But shows how the humans successfully found a way to fight back! Also the movie showed how there was real struggle for the military. Also the enemies were interesting and not invincible. Because some alien movie make it to where the enemy can virtually resist human tech.
Great review RG!
Thanks my man! And I liked it too! I think at the beginning we would always get our ass kicked but we would figure it out
@@RoanokeGaming Every alien invasion is Pearl Harbor.
@@am-ranth8955 Yeah, it was mostly a joke directed towards the alien invasion trope rather than what the real world application would be.
@@am-ranth8955 Really depend on the method used for space travel and the technologicals requirements. They might need boots on the ground to prevent us from nuking their ships in orbits or they could yeet entire asteroids field.
As for nanotechnology deconstructing all biological matters on earth that's physically not possible as they would either move too slow, produce too much heat as a whole and burn their circuitry or you'd need to cover the ENTIRE planet in nanomachines which is impractical.
Hey Roanoke, do you think that the artists and designers of these kinds of sci-fi films actually come up with all of the details about their creatures’ biology/morphology or do you think they just want to make something that looks cool and let the audience fill in the gaps? I always wonder if the creators take any of those things into account when making the films.
I think it more so goes they make a cool design grounded in reality then make it make sense
Now obviously some do more than others but you get it
It depends from movie to movie but a lot of studios do pay attention to plausibility while still considering novelty and cool factor. Take for example avatar where all the creatures are very fantastical but still grounded and realistic within the context of the movie. But movies like predator designed the creature for the cool factor and then developed a lore beyond that.
It's kind of both actually, It looks like they had some basic lore and the rest is all up to our imagination
They did that for Stranger Things, the show is founded on a world guide that explains the details of the Upside Down, how it works, whats in it, every last detail. Then Netflix was like "Ok, make a show about this"
Typically these are conceived in the writing room, so that the concept artists and VFX staff have the necessary details for production.
I saw a documentary that explained that having light sensitive cells, and eventually eyes, you need more nerves and neurons to properly process. If you want to use your sight effectively, you need that info quick. So the neuron cluster would form behind the eyes and eventually lead to the formation of a proper brain. Having our brains center mass would make eyesight and the ability to rely on it far worse.
EDIT: I think like you yourself have pointed out, evolution doesn't plan ahead.
Then more than likely animals who would follow that body plan that would rely on vibrations or something
So, the alien world is a place that has either a dim star or is a large moon to a gas giant or its atmosphere is composed of something that lets in little light or the creatures lived in deeper, darker ocean depths. At least that's my guess as to how they would evolve.
@@spacetacos7574 Or most any other of the normal senses. Many animals with eyes have horrible eyesight and get along fine
@@GAdmThrawn The problem with that is then, why have eyes? Most of the fish we find in low/low light environments are blind. Their eyes come from ancestors that got naturally selected into unexplored territory and now rely on all other senses.
Unless you've got bioluminescence like an angler fish, why waste resources on an expensive organ?
What about octopuses. They have multiple brains. The aliens could have a "mini" brain in their head for visual processing, while the main brain in the chest cavity handles the other functions.
I love when sgt comes back and started to load mags. It makes me want to cry . It is two things.. he is controlling what he can control to settle mentally space and it is heroic
Now you gotta do Battleship, that movie is dumb fun with a cool alien design
You couldn’t have describe that movie any better. Not as good as Battle: Los Angeles in characters and Military realism, but it was fun.
Lol, hey, I was on that RIMPAC
I think the aliens looked kinda boring tho. They just looked like Neanderthals with a goatee.
Imagine being an alien invader landing down with your first introduction to how vast humanity's military industry is by being turned into a fine mist by a tank or a soldier/hillbilly/cultist/random human with a semi-automatic .50 caliber rifle. Or just a rando who read the anarchist cookbook and made a improvised explosive or two.
John Ringo actually explored that idea in his Legacy of the Aldenata books( at least the first few of them). After humanity gets drafted into an interstellar war against a race of vicious centaur-alligators that use repurposed precursor species tech, eventually they find and invade earth. And find out that humanity isnt like the other pacifist sentients the rest of the galaxy seems to be populated by, that a not insignificant number will fight back.
Including a militia of ATV riding hillbillies with Barret 50s, who have probably the best success rate of just about any other force on earth( aside from the Corps of Engineers, who turn whole cities into layers of booby traps that wipe out whole Armys).
Like all John Ringo books though, he eventually wonders off into weird things and the books become a very different series later on, and I lost interest after a 30 ( and 200) year time skip that basically writes out all the characters and completely destroys the investment as basically all the original books are rendered moot.
AKA Burt Gummer.
I love how you can show alien guts and an autopsy but have to say "force multiplier".
Have to admit, I've never really watched the movie but I've always found the aliens fascinating. It's nice to see your thorough take on them.
1:29 "When I joined this beloved core we didn't have any fancy smanchy tanks. We had sticks! Two sticks and a rock for the whole platoon, and we had to share the rock!" Fits really well with the whole evolution of war thing you mentioned earlier lol.
The look of these landshark aliens kinda reminds me of the original designs for the Combine from half life 2, as in the units supposedly deployed during the 7 hour war.
Glad I'm not the only one.
Exactly! Reminds me of the Cremator, which technically is still canon in the game but still
THIS is one of my favorite movies. It's criminally underrated imo. Just one of the few movies I could just turn on and watch anytime. Thanks for covering this hidden gem.
One of my favourite movies, I’m very glad you’re doing this
Glad you enjoyed!
Great summary. Just FYI, Marines hate being called soldiers. You can call us troops if we are mixed with other branches, but we prefer Marines.
I think they look more like humanoid crustaceans, but that is just me. some of their organic matter also reminds me of the book lungs of horseshoe crabs
I really liked this movie, though “critics” and “journalists” didn’t like it. There is a rumored POSSIBLE sequel but most of that news is from 2012 and 2013. I still hope for one though.
I cannot express how much support I would give for a Battle: New York, Battle: Dallas/Houston, Battle: [insert any major city] movie. I adore the realistic take on an alien invasion Battle: Los Angeles took.
Agreed, this is such a fascinating alien war movie, especially for being based on modern times and how horribly outclassed we really are. Conventional tactics don't cut it, we have to strike directly at their weaknesses and otherwise completely avoid them. Punching through is simply not an option. It also gives off a such a great survivor feel, almost drifting from place to place just trying to survive.
I don't like this film. The Alien's logic is about as sound as using a Hair drier in the Shower. They handed the aliens a massive Idiot ball, which is poor writing imo
@@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim this movie feels like it was about the military way more than it was about aliens. They left out all the interesting sci-fi stuff
@@SirButtRichardson Maybe we can get that in next movie? Because they could bring more aliens - will show their tech and maybe homeworld etc..
I'm surprised that since they lost, humans didn't immediately start to reverse engineer their tech. then again there might have been some issues but eventually there's a work around
“Immediately” - You do realize that the war was far from over, right? The movie ended with the mobilizing of a counteroffensive in a single city, not with the last of the aliens being driven out of a significant area.
Besides, reverse-engineering of unfamiliar technologies isn’t that easy even in Star Trek levels of technology; 21st Century humans would likely have an even harder time understanding (much less replicating) totally alien interstellar technologies.
@@UGNAvalon you do know it's a Sci fi movie right? also every military even fictional ones have a r&d team in it, if they don't for whatever reason, they will hire a group of scientists to do it, even while in a war.
@@nightstalker9676 R&D takes hella time and money that's why 82% of the US military budget is used for it...
@@nightstalker9676 It's only "sci-fi" in the barest-minimal sense of the word via the inclusion of aliens. In every other aspect, the movie is a fully-grounded, hard-realism film taking place in modern-day (ie technologically primitive) Earth. This means it has realistic limitations to the amount of R&D humans would be capable of doing. And that's *_Without_* including a war of extermination on our hands!
@@UGNAvalon say I must I'm starting to understand (:
I love that they didn't go with the tired trope of "we killed the mothership or queen so we win" but instead killing the ship only killed the alien air support and they still have to mop up the ground forces but now we have air superiority.
There really should’ve been a second movie of this movie
Finally someone makes a video about Battle: LA. I loved that movie.
I would honestly love to see you go over the biology and physiology of the different races from the destiny franchise.
The problem I have with destiny, is bungie and how they lied. I dont know if I will ever cover destiny
@@RoanokeGaming how did bungo lie
@@ufohawk1110 Since they stopped making Halo games, they turned into a rotten, predatory company.
@@RoanokeGaming How about halo flood forms? Like you did with the Necromorphs but with each species and which roles each have? Also have ya gone over the small nercos that shoot those three spikes in low gravity? Not sure if they are dogs or not.
@@ufohawk1110 heh, Bungo
I don't know why people hate this movie. It's amazing
Heres 2 movie suggestion for an episode Roanoke
Afflicted 2013 and Battleship 2012
Ouuhh I forgot about battleship!
Battleship was a pretty good movie one of my favorites
@@RoanokeGaming PLEASE do afflicted, it’s soooo good. Real hidden gem.
My grandpa loves war movies, and isn't much of a fan of Sci-fi related stuff. But when he came over to visit me and I put this on, he really enjoyed the movie. This is definitely a war movie that just so happens to have aliens and I'm glad that I got a sci-fi movie that we both like.
Awesome breakdown! I’ve always thought this movie was criminally underrated. I know a sequel delving into the lore will never happen but damn that’d be cool. Congrats on almost 600k!!
This novie is underrated.