For a good understanding of why it is critical to NOT over tighten a Chain, Think about its purpose and Function. *Relation between Chain and Drive Gear: Drive Gear is positioned centered on the Drive shaft. Drive Gear is Perpendicular to the Chain. Chain is Rotated be the Drive Gear(sprocket) and the Drive links on the chain. i.e. a Rack and Pinion mesh of gears. * *The Chains purpose is strictly Cutting Wood. A loose chain can (a) Slip, jump teeth on the Sprocket, Lean easily in the Bar channel causing excessive wear or worst of all - Fly off the Bar causing damage to the saw and/or operator. A over tightened will Stretch prematurely(Note - new Chains Stretch and must be readjusted after the first few cuts) Worst problem with over tightening is premature wear/damage to the Sprocket, Drive shaft, Shaft Bearings and possible the Casing(Heat Damage) ***Chain Adjustment: ! Always wear a Glove on the hand touching the Bar and chain while adjusting ! - It only takes once poking a cutting edge into the side of a finger to understand why Gloves are a good idea. Consider your Cutting Routine and technique. If you mostly over cut and or tend to put pressure on the Bar/Chain definitely lock the bar in the Raised position. !also make all your chain adjustments with the Bar Raised as raising the bar after adjusting will always make the chain even tighter! If the saw is set up for Topping or de-limbing felled trees(dedicated small saw) most of the work is light pressure and under cutting. Adjust chain with the bar in its natural resting position and lock it there. **** In closing - Always carry a spare Chain! It is much faster to swap a chain if needed than to hand sharpen one if you don't file very often. You can always sharpen it later, after the work is done. Be Safe and happy cutting
I have a Kobalt 80 volt saw. One advantage a battery saw has over a gas saw is that if you’re in a higher environment where there is lower oxygen level, a gas saw can be difficult to start. That’s not the case with a battery saw. Just mash the button and pull the trigger.
No matter the environment..chainsaws & weedeatters are the hardest thing to crank!! That's why I purchased these battery operated machines...now I just need to figure out how to put the (stripped screw) for the hand bar on the weed trimmer on..how to know when the battery is fully charged..how much time will they last (battery time)..and how to put the bar & chain on the chainsaw...(First timer) !!
I just purchased one of these and found for the price of $300 the booklet would show how to install the bar & chain (for we first timers)..your video helped (when your arm or head wasn't blocking the view..I'm just so fustrated as I tried to contact the company number provided & after 10 mins. waiting ... hung up...If a company is going to put out a product..there should be plenty available help to answer our call..especially @the price of $299 ($300 ) plus tax.shipping... I'm about ready to return both..the 80v weed trimmer & the 80v chainsaw..Now let me see if I can figure out by your video..how to put the bar on...when I tried..it was lop-sidded... I didn't loosen that screw like you did...I'll try that..wish me 'luck'...
To be fair, I don’t think the instructions that came with my Stihl chainsaw were much better. It’s like people just expect you to know how to use these tools even though they have a fairly high learning curve. There is a lot to know about how to safely use a chainsaw.
For you, the green chain cover went on real easy, with the nuts catching the threads of the bolts just fine. For me, it is not so. It took a while, loosing that chain tension screw enough to get the pin to fit, so the bar & chain lay flat. It all looks fine to me (a zero-experience chain saw person) but the cover wont sit close enough for the nuts to catch the threads. I don't see anything different between your excellent clear video and real life.
Yeah, those covers take a bit of fiddling to get on, until you get used to them. The good news is they’re almost all the same across saw brands. If the cover won’t allow the nuts to catch, something is definitely wrong. Check behind the bar for obstructions. It should go on easily if the tension has been backed off.
@@createthisdotcom I fiddled with it a bit more. IWhen I loosened the tension screw all the way, it didn't fit but then I found I could turn it a bit more, and held the bar up a bit - the cover fit! Yay! Except now I couldn't tighten the tension very far before it got stuck. Solution: Took the cover off, set the tension just right, chain is snug, and then tried the cover. It fit on just fine. Whew! Tomorrow we will try it out on some fallen branches and firewood-to-be.
I just found out..you have to look at the top of the battery (when it's in the chaarger ) to see that all 3 lights are on..(I was looking at the top of the charger to light up where it shows different stages (pictures)...mine did not beep...be sure you have it in the charger correctly..the 80 is face up and the battery is slid down to meet the 'prongs' the green light will blink..then stay green..otherwise, it is not making contact with the 'prongs.. Good 'luck!"
It's curious how tool companies try to leverage the general population's lack of scientific understanding. To the average person, more volts---->more power. The reality is that volts isn't power all. Milwaukee makes an 18V model with about the same power. Power is watts. Watts is volts x amps. Most of the battery saws with 16" bars require upwards of 1200 watts to cut reasonably fast. It can be 18V x 60 amps or 72V x 17 amps or 36V x 30 amps, etcetera. Corded saws run a little higher amperage but have less efficient brushed motors. The lower voltage battery saws do need beefier wiring and bigger motors as a result of running higher amperage. The Milwaukee is heavy! The tool companies even leverage the fact that lithium batteries read about 4 volts right off the charger. 20 cells x 4 volts = 80 volts. The reality is that lithium cells produce a rather flat voltage throughout use of 3.6 volts so an 80 volt saw is really 72V. They further market this as "max." The consumer reads something more into that maximum initial volts into the word and think it means even more power. A big disadvantage to high volts is difficulty balancing all those series batteries. Also, they are like old series Christmas lights, one goes out, they all go out. The amount of wood you can cut is proportional to watt hours. 72 x 2 = 144 Wh. That 2Ah battery is on the very low end of batteries for outdoor equipment. Here’s some data for comparison that I’ve acquired for those who are interested: Ryobi 40V (36V nom) 5Ah battery weighs 3.05 lbs (32) x (5) = 160 watt hours Briggs & Stratton (Victa) 82Vmax 72V nom 5.7 lbs (72) x (4) = 288 watt hours Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watt hrs Greenworks 72V nom (80 max) 4 Ah battery weighs 5.5 lbs (72)x(4) = 288 watt hrs Greenworks 72V (80 max) 2 Ah battery weighs 2.8 lbs (72)x(2) = 144 watt hrs Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watt hrs Makita takes two standard tool batteries of any amp hr rating. They all weigh nearly the same. Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(18) = 216 watt hrs. Makita also runs on 5, 4 and 3 Ah batteries with progressively lower run times with the same approximate weight. (2) x (5) x (18) = 180, (2) x (4) x (18) = 144, and (2) x (3) x (18) = 108 Echo 54V 2Ah weights 2.65 lbs (54) x (2) = 108 watt hrs Echo 54V 4Ah weights 4.1 lbs (54) x (4) = 216 watt hrs Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watt hrs Still with 36V 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watt hrs Stihl with 36V 6.3 Ah (AP 300) weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(6.3) = 226 watt hrs Redback 120V [108?]3Ah battery weighs 4.0 lbs (108)x(3) = 324 watt hrs EGO 56V 5 Ah battery weighs 4.9 lbs (56) x (5) = 280 watt hrs McCulloch 36V (nom) (36) x (4) = 144 watt hrs Snapper SBA260V 2Ah is 54V (nom) 3.01 lbs (54) x (2) 108 watt hrs. Snapper 4Ah 60V max 54V (nom) 4.00 lbs (54) x (4) = 216 watt hours. I bought Makita because I had batteries. I'm very happy with it. I usually consume about 500 watt hours for a little more than a face cord or half a full cord. I cut all my firewood now with battery power. The Greenworks saw appears to be one of the better saws from what I've seen on youtube.
WOW...what a "hat-full" of info you have enlightened us to..Some, this small mind understands..some..not so much..but at the bottom line, to have seen you state the Greenworks "appears to be one of the better"..One thing's for sure..they need to spend more money on first timer users in the assembly of the bar & chain..also on the phone line help or lack of....I just got my first battery chainsaw & never had to put a bar & chain on my gas..(it just got to I no longer have the "umpth" to pull my gas chainsaw cord so wanted to try the battery one..the 80v...but..problems understanding why it's "lop-sidded' (the bar & chain) when I try to put it on...there is abolt (as such) that sticks up on one side...anyway..back to the "drawing board "berfore I decide to return this $300 (plus) machine.. Thanks again for the info as to volts/watts/ hours...and so forth.
@@paulettepier5526 mine came with the bar and chain installed. then the chain came off on the 4th cut, which is why i'm here...trying to figure out how to get the damn assembly back on. grrr
*push the primer 6 times and let it rip I like the saw for the price👀 **allabout.wiki/Included** used maybe 10 tanks of fuel, 6 loads of hard wood and am very pleased with it. some will say its under powered for a 20" but I like it better then a 18". I have a 18" also which is great also just like the extra 2" inches. the saw is very light also which is nice. Huskavarna owns Greenworks so I am sure it will last. its not a sthl but still love it! I have seen some bad reviews on the saw but do not agree with them. some people told me not to waste my money but have since changed there mind. just have some common sense and cut some wood!*
I've got the 80v mower, snow thrower, weed whacker, hedge trimmer and this chainsaw... so far I'm happy with all of them!
Only vid that helped me figure out how to get my damn chain back on (my saw came fully assembled). Take a bow 😗👍
Seconded. Was so happy to find a video that shows this!
For a good understanding of why it is critical to NOT over tighten a Chain, Think about its purpose and Function.
*Relation between Chain and Drive Gear:
Drive Gear is positioned centered on the Drive shaft.
Drive Gear is Perpendicular to the Chain.
Chain is Rotated be the Drive Gear(sprocket) and the Drive links on the chain. i.e. a Rack and Pinion mesh of gears.
* *The Chains purpose is strictly Cutting Wood.
A loose chain can (a) Slip, jump teeth on the Sprocket, Lean easily in the Bar channel causing excessive wear or worst of all - Fly off the Bar causing damage to the saw and/or operator.
A over tightened will Stretch prematurely(Note - new Chains Stretch and must be readjusted after the first few cuts)
Worst problem with over tightening is premature wear/damage to the Sprocket, Drive shaft, Shaft Bearings and possible the Casing(Heat Damage)
***Chain Adjustment:
! Always wear a Glove on the hand touching the Bar and chain while adjusting ! - It only takes once poking a cutting edge into the side of a finger to understand why Gloves are a good idea.
Consider your Cutting Routine and technique.
If you mostly over cut and or tend to put pressure on the Bar/Chain definitely lock the bar in the Raised position. !also make all your chain adjustments with the Bar Raised as raising the bar after adjusting will always make the chain even tighter!
If the saw is set up for Topping or de-limbing felled trees(dedicated small saw) most of the work is light pressure and under cutting. Adjust chain with the bar in its natural resting position and lock it there.
**** In closing - Always carry a spare Chain! It is much faster to swap a chain if needed than to hand sharpen one if you don't file very often. You can always sharpen it later, after the work is done.
Be Safe and happy cutting
I have a Kobalt 80 volt saw. One advantage a battery saw has over a gas saw is that if you’re in a higher environment where there is lower oxygen level, a gas saw can be difficult to start. That’s not the case with a battery saw. Just mash the button and pull the trigger.
No matter the environment..chainsaws & weedeatters are the hardest thing to crank!! That's why I purchased these battery operated machines...now I just need to figure out how to put the (stripped screw) for the hand bar on the weed trimmer on..how to know when the battery is fully charged..how much time will they last (battery time)..and how to put the bar & chain on the chainsaw...(First timer) !!
I bought a greenworks pressure washer 5 years ago and still works.. greenworks really is a great product
Their instructional chainsaw vid is garbage, though.
I just purchased one of these and found for the price of $300 the booklet would show how to install the bar & chain (for we first timers)..your video helped (when your arm or head wasn't blocking the view..I'm just so fustrated as I tried to contact the company number provided & after 10 mins. waiting ... hung up...If a company is going to put out a product..there should be plenty available help to answer our call..especially @the price of $299 ($300 ) plus tax.shipping... I'm about ready to return both..the 80v weed trimmer & the 80v chainsaw..Now let me see if I can figure out by your video..how to put the bar on...when I tried..it was lop-sidded... I didn't loosen that screw like you did...I'll try that..wish me 'luck'...
To be fair, I don’t think the instructions that came with my Stihl chainsaw were much better. It’s like people just expect you to know how to use these tools even though they have a fairly high learning curve. There is a lot to know about how to safely use a chainsaw.
After unboxing were you able to pull the throttle trigger completely? My trigger seems to be seized regardless of chain brake and trigger lock
i ordered one for my uncle. Do you still use it? I know this is 5 years old.
did you notice there was no max fill ht for the oil?
Put screwdriver side of tool behind a blade tooth and push forward to rotate chain safely
For you, the green chain cover went on real easy, with the nuts catching the threads of the bolts just fine. For me, it is not so. It took a while, loosing that chain tension screw enough to get the pin to fit, so the bar & chain lay flat. It all looks fine to me (a zero-experience chain saw person) but the cover wont sit close enough for the nuts to catch the threads. I don't see anything different between your excellent clear video and real life.
Yeah, those covers take a bit of fiddling to get on, until you get used to them. The good news is they’re almost all the same across saw brands. If the cover won’t allow the nuts to catch, something is definitely wrong. Check behind the bar for obstructions. It should go on easily if the tension has been backed off.
@@createthisdotcom I fiddled with it a bit more. IWhen I loosened the tension screw all the way, it didn't fit but then I found I could turn it a bit more, and held the bar up a bit - the cover fit! Yay! Except now I couldn't tighten the tension very far before it got stuck. Solution: Took the cover off, set the tension just right, chain is snug, and then tried the cover. It fit on just fine. Whew! Tomorrow we will try it out on some fallen branches and firewood-to-be.
That is very helpful for myself and the other two people who have never done this before.
How much is this saw?
It only beeps, battery is fully charged, I'm at a loss please help
I just found out..you have to look at the top of the battery (when it's in the chaarger ) to see that all 3 lights are on..(I was looking at the top of the charger to light up where it shows different stages (pictures)...mine did not beep...be sure you have it in the charger correctly..the 80 is face up and the battery is slid down to meet the 'prongs' the green light will blink..then stay green..otherwise, it is not making contact with the 'prongs.. Good 'luck!"
Got one today battery won't charge... Blinking red light.. So not so happy
It's curious how tool companies try to leverage the general population's lack of scientific understanding. To the average person, more volts---->more power. The reality is that volts isn't power all. Milwaukee makes an 18V model with about the same power. Power is watts. Watts is volts x amps. Most of the battery saws with 16" bars require upwards of 1200 watts to cut reasonably fast. It can be 18V x 60 amps or 72V x 17 amps or 36V x 30 amps, etcetera. Corded saws run a little higher amperage but have less efficient brushed motors. The lower voltage battery saws do need beefier wiring and bigger motors as a result of running higher amperage. The Milwaukee is heavy!
The tool companies even leverage the fact that lithium batteries read about 4 volts right off the charger. 20 cells x 4 volts = 80 volts. The reality is that lithium cells produce a rather flat voltage throughout use of 3.6 volts so an 80 volt saw is really 72V. They further market this as "max." The consumer reads something more into that maximum initial volts into the word and think it means even more power. A big disadvantage to high volts is difficulty balancing all those series batteries. Also, they are like old series Christmas lights, one goes out, they all go out.
The amount of wood you can cut is proportional to watt hours. 72 x 2 = 144 Wh. That 2Ah battery is on the very low end of batteries for outdoor equipment.
Here’s some data for comparison that I’ve acquired for those who are interested:
Ryobi 40V (36V nom) 5Ah battery weighs 3.05 lbs (32) x (5) = 160 watt hours
Briggs & Stratton (Victa) 82Vmax 72V nom 5.7 lbs (72) x (4) = 288 watt hours
Husqvarna 36V (nom) 4.2 Ah battery weighs 3.21? lbs (36)x(4.2) = 151 watt hrs
Greenworks 72V nom (80 max) 4 Ah battery weighs 5.5 lbs (72)x(4) = 288 watt hrs
Greenworks 72V (80 max) 2 Ah battery weighs 2.8 lbs (72)x(2) = 144 watt hrs
Milwaukee 18V (nom) 12Ah battery weighs 3.7 lbs. (18)x(12) = 216 watt hrs
Makita takes two standard tool batteries of any amp hr rating. They all weigh nearly the same.
Two (2) Makita 18V (nom) 6 Ah batteries weigh 2.7 lbs. (2)x(6)x(18) = 216 watt hrs.
Makita also runs on 5, 4 and 3 Ah batteries with progressively lower run times with the same approximate weight. (2) x (5) x (18) = 180, (2) x (4) x (18) = 144, and (2) x (3) x (18) = 108
Echo 54V 2Ah weights 2.65 lbs (54) x (2) = 108 watt hrs
Echo 54V 4Ah weights 4.1 lbs (54) x (4) = 216 watt hrs
Dewalt 54V (nom, not max) 4Ah battery weighs 3.2 lbs (54)x(4) = 216 watt hrs
Still with 36V 4.9 Ah battery weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(4.2) = 178 watt hrs
Stihl with 36V 6.3 Ah (AP 300) weighs 3.8lbs (36)x(6.3) = 226 watt hrs
Redback 120V [108?]3Ah battery weighs 4.0 lbs (108)x(3) = 324 watt hrs
EGO 56V 5 Ah battery weighs 4.9 lbs (56) x (5) = 280 watt hrs
McCulloch 36V (nom) (36) x (4) = 144 watt hrs
Snapper SBA260V 2Ah is 54V (nom) 3.01 lbs (54) x (2) 108 watt hrs.
Snapper 4Ah 60V max 54V (nom) 4.00 lbs (54) x (4) = 216 watt hours.
I bought Makita because I had batteries. I'm very happy with it. I usually consume about 500 watt hours for a little more than a face cord or half a full cord. I cut all my firewood now with battery power. The Greenworks saw appears to be one of the better saws from what I've seen on youtube.
Thank you for taking the time to write this 👍🙏♥️
WOW...what a "hat-full" of info you have enlightened us to..Some, this small mind understands..some..not so much..but at the bottom line, to have seen you state the Greenworks "appears to be one of the better"..One thing's for sure..they need to spend more money on first timer users in the assembly of the bar & chain..also on the phone line help or lack of....I just got my first battery chainsaw & never had to put a bar & chain on my gas..(it just got to I no longer have the "umpth" to pull my gas chainsaw cord so wanted to try the battery one..the 80v...but..problems understanding why it's "lop-sidded' (the bar & chain) when I try to put it on...there is abolt (as such) that sticks up on one side...anyway..back to the "drawing board "berfore I decide to return this $300 (plus) machine.. Thanks again for the info as to volts/watts/ hours...and so forth.
@@paulettepier5526 mine came with the bar and chain installed. then the chain came off on the 4th cut, which is why i'm here...trying to figure out how to get the damn assembly back on. grrr
*push the primer 6 times and let it rip I like the saw for the price👀 **allabout.wiki/Included** used maybe 10 tanks of fuel, 6 loads of hard wood and am very pleased with it. some will say its under powered for a 20" but I like it better then a 18". I have a 18" also which is great also just like the extra 2" inches. the saw is very light also which is nice. Huskavarna owns Greenworks so I am sure it will last. its not a sthl but still love it! I have seen some bad reviews on the saw but do not agree with them. some people told me not to waste my money but have since changed there mind. just have some common sense and cut some wood!*
were you put the bar and chain oil new to this saw
Ore gun 😁. Safety chains absolutely suck