"Young men don't lose brothers well." Vietnam recon veterans recall those who didn't come home
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- Veterans of Vietnam’s long range reconnaissance patrols talk about the pain of losing friends in battle in ‘Shadows in the Jungle’ - Ep. 3 “The Men We Lost”
A lot of my father’s friends were Vietnam veterans. I grew up around these men. As I got older, the stories got more detailed and vivid. I’m nearly 50 years old and still can’t imagine going through that much as a 20 year old. I have the utmost respect for these veterans.
Same here Jim, just hearing their tale's would give me the shakes.
I can’t imagine a life full of haunting memories of dead comrades lying next you. Thank you, all of you 🤧🫡🫡💔🇺🇸
I’m sorry for your heart break guys. But thank you for serving. Respects
serving what, he's a terrorist. you probably support Hamas too
My brothef was in Vietnam in 1971 to 1972, he was military Policeman, and before he passed away he told me he wanted to be with his comrades. When he passed away. He never talked about Vietnam, i hope and pray he is with his comtades and at peace, we were very close, when he passed awaay, my heart and soul were torn from from me. Thats how close we were, hmay have been13 years older than me, but, he was the toungest boy and i was the youngest girl of the family. And i love and miss him and hope he is at peace.
Never forgotten. They are not lost as long as you remember them. You great men will see them again. Thank you for your service gentleman. From a Iraq war Army vet to you . Thank you
The despair in the first mans eyes nearly brought me to tears when I saw him
It is so hard to lose beloved friends. God bless them.
VIETNAM VETS DIDN’T GET A HOMECOMING…..still pisses me off to this Day
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE 🙏🙏🇺🇸. 🇺🇸 🇺🇸
To my friend and mentor who I loved and respected. SFC Leon J Fields who took a 20 year old inexperienced SSG under his wing and taught him how to overcome his fears and be aleader especially in combat
He died December 13th 1968.
RIP Friend
“Young men don’t lose brothers well” should be the quote of the century because it’s damn sure the fucking truth.
AMEN! and Old men don't lose kids well.
Amen.
Maybe old men should be teaching young men not to be chumps and pawns of their dysfunctional Government and really think for themselves. We would have a lot less of this "losing" BS.
@@topgeardel you’re special, aren’t you?
@@MrIzzy11B Of course I'm special. And so were the 60000 Americans your Government disgustingly sacrificed in Vietnam for absolutely no legitimate reason. Your Government didn't think they were special.
The following are the last Airborne Rangers killed in action in Vietnam.
The were assigned to COMPANY H, 75TH RANGERS, LLRP, IST CAV DIVISION, USAV.
ELVIS W OSBORNE KIA 6-9-72
JEFFREY A MAURER KIA 6-9-72
JAIME PACHECO KIA 5-25-72
THOMAS E (BLINKY) SMITH KIA 2-20-72
I was in the same ranger class as Elvis, which was Apr-Jun ‘71. Supposedly he was the last tabbed ranger to die in Vietnam. That’s another memory that lingers long.
RIP, Soldiers.
I will never forget the men to the right and left of me. They are always with me forever!
GOD HAS ALL OF THE BEST LRRP’s
CSM Chapa
Just LOOK at their eyes while they talk? "I Would" trust these dudes 100%! I grew up with these Vets! and their Fathers, and Grand Fathers! I Knew them well! as a kid from their service years.
Every time I watch a video of veterans nearly all of them, whatever their age, carry trauma and loss, and still show the heardbreak they've experienced. When will it ever be enough, when will we as a species stop the wars.
The dead linger long in both the heart and the mind. My former Ranger platoon leader went out to rescue a team in trouble. The helicopter crashed and as far as I know they all died. I still see the LT in my mind’s eye. Best officer I ever had and a West Point grad.
My uncle Steve did TWO TOUR OF DUTY in Vietnam/Cambodia.
Night sweats, nightmares still haunts.
Hey William, is your uncle still around?
My brothers, much love and respect from an OLD MARINE. Never forget. NAM 69-70.
In Korea,I have met quite a few Viet war vets in my life. 1 common and the most remarkable thing about them altogether is that they don't talk. You don't even know they were there. For example, there was a bus driver in my work place. A guy next to him rougly tells you that he was a commando and had been deployed to nam,etc. No one has no idea what those guys did there or what they have been through. They just don't talk.
Welcome Home Brothers let me say this as a Vietnam Veteran survivors guilt is a real sob I live with it everyday n it doesn't get any easier these 50 plus years later
Im not american, but thank you so much for your service!
It happened. You were there. Nothing can be done about it now. It is ok. God loves you forever.
Thank you for your service men
Brave men, haunted by their memories
God Bless them all with His most gracious mercy.
God bless u guys who served in this hellhole
Much love brother, much love. OEF/OIF
God bless these men. Thank you for my freedom.
I agree, bless these men but your comment about freedom makes no sense.
They were fighting the VC in Vietnam - it had nothing to do with your freedom!
It had to do with the freedom of the citizens of South and North Vietnam
Truly these LRRP Soldiers did a very difficult job in Vietnam. Going deep into enemy territory. To recon and observe the troop movements of the NVA and VC. Showing true courage and bravery whilst out on patrol. Thank you for your service in the Vietnam War. 💪👃✨
Thank You Sir.
Real SF
True American Heros. Thanks for your service. May God walk with you for the rest of your life's.
I served with a lot of Vietnam vets for nine years in late 70’s to mid 80’s with one being a Medal of Honor winner and only once did I ask what they experienced, none talked about it because the men I served with were all Infantry and saw the worst of it. I’m now 67 years old and it makes me cry knowing what they went through. I got lucky and missed all the conflicts from 1977 to 1986. The pain of lost men in a war that made no sense since the Political class so easily threw the life’s of these young men away. America needs to quit fighting other countries war. GOD bless to all who served in this war and made it home. Your stories have forever changed my life.
Excellent production. I could listen to their stories and hear that everlasting pain. God bless you and your fallen friends.
Amazing stories.. heartbreaking to hear! Gary's books including "Eyes of the Eagle" are some of the best history of these brave men!
Each and every one of you are HEROS!!!❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUVE DONE. MUCH RESPECT.
Thank you for your service and taking the time to share. Sorry for what you have had to sacrifice and witness. I truly wish you guys the best moving forward in your lives and 🙏 for all the men, women, children and parents that are affected by war.
Thank you for sharing, we can remember that mad bastard Texan thanks to you. Mateship is forever, Lest We Forget
I was a resident in Portland, Oregon at the VA Hospital and Oregon Health Science University. I will never forget the Hero’s in the Hospital…. The Wars never end for these men and women….. These Wars end 7:59 when their last child dies, because that is when the War ends for those most affected……. We need leaders who try to not get us into these conflicts unless it is absolutely necessary…. Time for us to quit fighting for people who refuse to fight for themselves……
One of my cousins was assigned to a fire base on top of a small mountain in Vietnam. At night the VC would climb the mountain and try to kill them…. When he came home he could not sleep unless he has a rifle lying on his chest. RIP Leslie, I know Vietnam changed you, you deserved better , RIP cousin.
Respect to these men
Welcome home,thank you all for your service.👊🏻🇺🇸
serving what, he's a terrorist. you probably support Hamas too
Heroes! Everyone of them!
I am a 54 year old Englishman, I have no military service to my name. However, I am involved with military charities raising money for those that have served, that are in need. My minor contribution. All of my family served, Grandfather, Father,Uncles etc, in one form or another. And the sacrifice made by all who serve, especially those mentioned here ,so young, in such horrendous circumstances should never be forgotten, cast aside or belittled. As a Cousin across the pond, I forward our utmost admiration, respect and revrence to the memory of these poor souls, and those that carry that burden. Sadly thats all I can offer.
God Bless these men, those that were lost and their families. What this country has done to these men after they were answered the call is unforgiveable. Some men give some, some give all. I will never forget! Nor forgive those trespasses!
My grandpa landed on Omaha Beach on Dday and had nightmares about his deployment thru Germany till he died at 74. The cost of war has been well documented on a personal level since the Great War and there’s still nothing that’s even remotely comparable to being in war, great thanks to all those that put yourselves in harms way for this country.
Vietnam rangers have some of the absolute Gnarliest stories,
RTW
Thank you for your Sacrifice to our country Godbless the Memories of those men we lost ...
Everytime I watch these brave men tell theor stories of the loss of their youth and innocence, the loss of their brothers in arms, amd the long lasting invisible scars that cannot be seen, I thank God these men stood in danger's way and reminds me of how greatful I am.for everyone of these men...makes me realize how my dad suffered, being a nam vet himself. I never had asked him about his experiences during that time because it's too painful to re live, amd I'm 43 as of this post.....he's 84 now and winding down in health....bless all of our combat vets!!!
And many of those who came home got treated like crap by the public. 😢
Vietnam vets are and always will be my heroes. Reason i joined usmc infantry 2nd batallion 9 th marines. 87 to 91 semper fi
1/9 b co 3mardiv 67 68 semper fi brother di bo chet
Welcome Home Soldiers
Respect and Love
Thank you for your service
Gary Linderer is an author too I believe I've read his books 15 years ago. Thanks for your service men. Appreciated.
He wrote Eyes Behind the Lines which is an excellent read I’ve read through it several times. My dad was a Ranger in the 75th Regiment 2nd Battalion and I was really interested in the Rangers growing up though I never tried to be one I wound up joining the Navy instead.
The level of respect I have for these men is impossible to describe. Thank you for laying down your lives for the people of the USA. The bankers and politicians are the problem, we know you all went over there because you loved us.
I have seen a whole bunch of these Vietnam vet stories, and every time the vet looks like he could have experienced the memory last week instead of 60 years ago. It seems even all those years have done little or nothing to dull those painful memories. I've heard some say "It's always 15 minutes away for us..." This must be why PTSD is so devastating for so many vets, and for such a long time, these memories don't fade much I think!
Fortunately with the millions of people that served during "war on terror", it seems to have spurred those in the psychiatric field to study the issue more intensively. And thanks to the efforts of many, the head-shrinkers seem to slowly be getting a much better grasp on the problem and how to treat it, which so many vets so badly need.
Before a cure can be developed, one must define the issue to its root cause. And one part of a meaningful definition of PTSD includes a presumption that it is based on a memory - but a memory whose volume is set too high. While this is surely a complete over-simplification of PTSD, a mental health professional or researcher using that simple presumption, can then begin to break the problem down to its roots; and while doing so, possibly gain a better understanding of what the elements of a cure might include.
Many new techniques have been tried in the battle to successfully treat PTSD. They include some treatments using VR technology to (voluntarily) place the patient in a milder re-creation of combat events that caused the painful memory. Re-enacting painful memories can enable the patient to re-visit the situation, in a safe and controlled environment - which, it is hoped, might give the patient more perspective and a better understanding of the trauma and how he/she can respond to it with new ways of thinking.
Other treatments that are even more radical, include the use of drugs (even psychedelic drugs such as Ayahuasca) in a controlled setting. While the way it works is not fully understood, there are many patients who have benefitted greatly from it, even sometimes gaining an entirely new way of thinking about the trauma, and actual relief from the agonizing effects of their traumatic life events.
The point here, of course, is not that a drug trip is an easy way to treat PTSD! The point is, when old methods of treatment fail, those brave souls in the psychiatric/psychological field who can devise and test new treatments, may be the only hope for creating an effective treatment for PTSD.
In the ongoing struggle to find some sort of effective, long term solution for this truly devastating psychological condition, to give up the search is simply not an option. Because not only has 20 years of war on terror created thousands if not millions more veterans desperately in need of a solution. The ongoing Russo-Ukraine War has created perhaps millions more victims, who will only grow in number with each passing day!
In Viet Nam I saw way to many killings 24 hours day and night, bombs, mine fields, the rain, the heat of the jungle, this was over 50 years ago, I am still a mess us kids at age 20 killing in Nam was a f.. nightmare. We came back to our country, who treated us like shit .For those of us who made it back to the USA, we were hated for doing a war job we were forced to do
Were you in the army or marines?
@@robertisham5279 Marines Semper Fi.
@@ratter531 Oh what year?
@@robertisham5279 1967 to 1970 3 tours I am still a mess this very moment Nam was beyond hell. I am age 71 now I will never be normal no one came back from Nam normal. As I watch this brother speaking I am in a river of tears,
@@ratter531 Wow were you by any chance in 1/9th marines? Were those tours consecutive?
I know ww2 vets were called the greatest generation. i was born in August64 Vietnam veterans will always be my greatest generation.
Informative !
God bless you guys
As a combat Vietnam Vet Army 67&68, I know your demons to well. It's always with us. I hope you're honoring our brothers who didn't return, by living a life they were unable too. They will not be forgotten. Welcome home!
This is very hard to watch, and it brings back memories. I worked with a guy who was in Vietnam in 1957 as an advisor and was returned home wounded from an attack on an airfield, in late 1958. He had a lot behind his eyes that he could never speak about. Yet you knew it was experiences and tons of pain. I understood why no one ever argued with him and gave him space when he gave you "THAT SPECIAL LOOK". He was beyond respected, he was feared, and for good bloody reason.
RIP GREATEST Generation and Their SON's!
I was privalaged to grow up with these Men as Hero's, teachers, neighbors, bosses, FAMILY and BUDDIES! Thank You! "I'm Sorry" my generation and "I" Gave away "your blood" scrifices for FREE.
I admire and respect you..all of you..from 🇦🇺 Australia!..thankyou for your brave and courageous service!.
The Vietnam war was a fresh memory as teenagers in the 70's and 80's, as a child I can recall the news of the early 70's and the flag draped coffins it sometimes showed. When it was our turn to join the Armed forces it, was the invasion of Panama and the Gulf War it has been a never ending cycle ever since.
OUR FAMILYS
Read a few of Gary Linderer’s books. Really good. Really good.
Me also. Six Silent Men is a series by three different guys in the 101st. Gone Native is another great one.
I am amazed at all the names I've remembered, penned onto pages, of men who existed, that I've never met. I heard the name Looney, then heard Souza, and I remembered Gary, and there he was.
Real heroes
Sorry guys. Don't what else to say. Live well.
Very sad indeed
God bless aol of you. My Uncle LRPP'd for the Air Cav. That's all he would ever say about the experiences. Oh yeah, said he LRRP'd with some great guys. He's gone now, Agent Orange did what no NVA could.
For the past few years, I always try to thank the veterans for their service to the nation in Vietnam. One of the ways that I am able to identify those persons is the caps/hats that they wear, proudly. I cannot imagine what any type of war would be like, and I’m so fortunate that I never had to go or serve.
Hug a Vet next time you meet one. Best Wishes from Sunny South Australia M8.
May my brothers rest in peace and may the ones still living their nightmares find peace. Semper Fi 3/3, 68-69 USMC RADIO operator. Made it home without to much damage to now have to deal with cancer from agent orange
Down but not out.
I feel for them all.
I lost both my best friends before I was 25, and I dare say I've never healed.neithet were soldiers mind you. One died from a freak medical incident, and choked to death on a 40 yard walk to the shop. He was 22.
Ashley died from a drug use. He was celebrating the birth of his son and took some dodgy tablets.
Young men never recover from the loss of our friends.
REST IN PEACE LURP DOUG 2 TOURS V NAM
GLENDORA CA..
RIP To Any American Soldier That Died In The Vietnam War
our enemy is the government on both side's
My step dad served in b
Vietnam from 1965 to 1968 and he never talks about it to this day
Any one from 9 div. / 50 th. Infantry E company LLRP year 1967 God Bless them. 😂
As a disabled veteran, I am still shocked I served at the behest of war criminals. Watch the Shawn Ryan show, we were all duped.
I met a homeless guy once who couldnt have been taller than 5 feet. Long silver hair, and definitely several drug problems. Had a woman his age and a little dog, and he did nothing but travel apparently. Said he was recon in vietnam and he was sent into the jungle sometimes for months on end, solo, and was expected to survive and come back living off whatever he could. He told me about some basic survival stuff like taking a metal spike and tapping on it in mud to get worms for sustenance, and if you take two sticks, wrap em in tin foil, and place it between your tent and the campfire, you can funnel hot air into your tent to stay warm. I asked him why he chooses to live the way he does and he says he spent so much time surviving alone and training for it he cant imagine living any other way, and he cant hold a job while taking the drugs he needs to keep his trauma away. He seemed content with his lifestyle so I didnt pry further, I was just grateful for the conversation
Was he marine recon? Or an army lrrp?
War never changes. Get over it!
The guy in the thumbnail looks like Graves from modern warfare 3.
Neither do old ones.
There is a new PTSD model that is proposed. Instead of based on fear, it is thought survivor guilt and morale compromise haunts our post combat vets.
All of that gusto and all of that idealism, the sense that what you're embarking on is all for a " Great and just cause", gets swept away the moment the rear door opens and the smell preceeding the wave of simmering heat glares at you with full contempt , welcoming you to " sunny South East Asia".
Horizontal rains driven by winds so thick it appeared to be a solid wall of water off of a waterfall pushed by some enormous fan driving it all sideways.
Morning and evenings, ground fog would rise up from the heating up of the jungle floor with what few areas could reach down from 160 foot tall triple canopy overstory that were available to receive the warmth of the sun.
You'd see shapes, forms, some certain pattern or a slight whirl of mist or fog that would give barely a trace as to its origin and without any further motion, the entire world felt like it had un-loaded and directed everything they had on you.
They had in fact, done just that but they weren't counting on the counter fire.
People get consumed by whats going on immediately to the front of them in , especially during.
itense brief split seconds of time lived in milliseconds of a life .
Most would be speechless to see just how fast all of this takes place and even more still , might not have the compunction to continue.
Wars ugly.
It's a dirty, nasty, grimy, hot, humid, sweaty dull and routine yet intensely horrifying time frame that isn't what some may feel it is.
The varying shapes and forms that a human body can take on when subjected to shearing jagged steel and the caveman appearances of wounds suffered are ample evidence on ones own to be convinced that it can happen to you too , just by being in the wrong place at the exact precise wrong moment in time.
When medics go through the feild medic course, the combat medic badge portion to be qualiied to do that job , they already have acknowledged that , some of their charges, will go down and there is a very high odds they too will go down while doing what they are fully committed to do.
Bring them back home, one way or another.
Sometimes, the optimum outcome, doesn't always happen.
My brothers, who I got back and mostly to those who I couldn't,
I stand for you....
Every single one.
What a Fucking War that must have been..... Some give their lives so others can live theirs..
I could not begin to understand what the men went through over there my dad was a Marine and tunnel rat and I always wondered why he kept his feet so clean and was the way he was he had PTSD very bad and agent Orange 100% and i was born when he come back from over there and if that stuff they sprayed got in to your body could it effect his children they even said it got in to your DNA how would you go about being checked for it by your doctor or go to the VA medical center
Absolutely unacceptable for Military Leaders and Politicians to put our men in harm’s way so unnecessarily…
I hope they are paying for what they’ve done to Southeast Asia, and a whole generation of Americans and their families in the afterlife, but what do I know…
This is why it's important to only go to war for good reasons, and to always seek a peacefully solution. Ope, did someone say oil? Tally ho, brethren!
Spoken like a true civilian who needs protection
@@Madinfidelprepper more like a combat vet who lost brothers in the sandbox for exactly 0 reason.
Did you ever hear the British families of those fallen in combat receive an anonymous phone call saying along the lines of "we got the man who killed your son" and they hang up. (Courtesy of the SAS)
True American heroes.Welcome home gentleman.
Marine to our walk of all brothers our page is use fathers 54 years home Young men don't lose brothers well Semper fi
THE WALK OF BLOOD
OUR FAMILYS
Stutterin Stewey had a similar problem.
Imagine subjecting your own young people to this because of power games.
God must have let his friend live for those 4 days to deal with his eternal soul. I bet his friend has quite the story for him some day up there.
173rd Herd, on your chest, Solid Man.
Edit: Re opening Ranger.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🎖🎖🎖🎖🎖
"Blessed are the peacemakers. For the will be called the children of God". Matthew 5:9
I believe I just don’t know what to say sir
I love how the author of this video deletes/censors my responses to comments by others. Kind of hypocritical that happens since these veterans were supposedly fighting for people like me to have such a right
Sucks that the men responsible for this are most likely dead of old age and were never held accountable. It’s crazy how much the government today is doing the same.
“Try to stop us, we dare you”
-US Government
Do you all know how to find Vietnam on a map?
No. We. Don't. Was. Never. Easy. Made me. Very. Angry. Bob13
Heavy fuckin metal
The service was a different time then. With authentic and sincere people. Now the guys next to you are worried about waxing their legs, golfing, engaging in infidelity, and manipulating their subordinates to make their jobs easier. But we will honor and morn the real ones.
Crazy what humans will do with emotions, trained since adaptation to kill. Better than this, only the fault of those to sent these poor souls here to hell on earth.