10kNL Gangster Moves, by Viktor Kudinov (Foreward by TaxHere)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- "That's a nice looking river you got there. Sure would be a shame if somebody were to... OVERBET THE EVER-LOVIN #&@! OUT OF IT..."
This week, Uri gives a shout out to that GTO machine Viktor "Gangsteriffic Moves" Kudinov.
That is, of course, a nickname I just gave him right now, but that's causea them gangsta moves, son!
So let Uri waft a couple moves your way. Gangsterfied for your pleasure.
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for the algo, thanks Uri!
Cheers mate :)
There are some new Stefan heads up hands in the April high stakes HH thread with some interesting huge overbet and raise sizes that I would love to see your opinion on.
I've been using that first line in live poker for years. Quarter pot, 2x pot and evaluate river. Obviously not these stakes but mostly taking advantage of live players who call too wide with draws.
Good sizing ott with this combo that never wants to bluff on 60% of rivers essentially threatening stacks now and not needing to use 2e sizing when a river D or C gives 1.5p behind plenty of fold equity on flushing rivs, especially since oop will have to fold many fd ott whereas IP can 2x pot a fd fairly liberally. River jam blocking almost every fold in the deck is a punt.
Hi, cheers for the content
One thing i noticed was you saying that in kevin shoes you prefer calling with a J of club instead of calling w hearts or spades bc you expect BU to give up missed draws, same is applied for BU, if you have hearts and spades (lets say QJ of hearts or spades) you are not blocking calling range, instead you are blocking folding range assuming that KQ and KJ with spades or hearts are folding river bc you are blocking bluffing range, that said on the BU you rather have clubs and diamonds to bluff because you are blocking KQ and KJ with a club or diamond that calls and you are not blocking KQ and KJ with spades or hearts that fold, another thing is i dont expect SB to have hands on this node like QJ Q9 J9 with flush draw vs 2x pot turn so its indifferent to have those, the only thing its more difficult is to choose specific combo bc you dont want to block Mid pair + FD that are hands that call turn and might fold river like Tc9c. I dont know if kevin is calling Tc9c, if he is folding river Qd9c is not the best but i assume it has to be on the jam range since you betting 1.5x pot and you have so manny value hands, you need to be bluffing river 42% to generate indifference so i assume Qd9c for all these factors i mentioned above has to be in the range. Just a little note that i felt you were missing on trying to understand Viktor logic.
Again cheers for all of this content, its the best content!
Would like to hear from you whats your thoughts
Hey yeah it's complicated... i think fwiw QJ and Q9 are turn combodraws and probablly at least mix calling the turn 2x pot due to that. Similarly Tc9c is certainly a hand that might call turn fold river. But either way I think the principle of blockers is more important than the nuances of "vs 2x pot" so i'm mentioning it more from a pedagogical standpoint. 2x pot turn is so rare I don't think the blocker-nuances there are important to study, but in most spots and vs most sizings the blocker interaction I mentioned is correct and so i think it's a good/basic heuristic for almost everyone to have.
@@shavuri thanks for the explanation, you dont want to be expending much time on specific/rare situation, you rather spend time explaining principles in more common situations. yeah its a though hand to analyze
Watching your latest video has become a Thursday routine for me. Ridiculously underrated free content.
Do you have any plans in the near future to make any new courses? If you made a lengthy play and explain package with focused exploits for each session similar to the one in your Upswing course that would definitely be worth buying for me.
Thanks man I'll keep it in mind, might have something like that in the works in the future :)
in the first hand, i think zas is allowed to bluff with the Qd mainly because of kevin's range when he calls SB pre. doesn't really block any folds cuz Qx suited is a pure 3b SB vs BTN even at 50/100 i would assume.
Many strategies mix suited Qx's in SB here, especially in games where there's aggro squeezing from BB which forces us to round out our SB flat range/call vs squeeze range to contain hands like this. Mixing AJs/ATs also important here but idt will happen as much irl.
@@boobysmiles nice ugotabanana reference.
I've heard this idea of the rake being too high to flat sb, but why would even 50nl solutions play calls in the sb (at least in GTO wizard sims) if so?
Is that with a 2.5x button open?
@@shavuri yes
Mad love and respect for the heart Viktor demonstrates in these hands but both of them seem somewhat to very bad.
Q9 - We really want Kevin to have the Qd/9c especially after b200 turn which forced his combo draws containing these cards to just call. We can bluff our Js9s/Qs9s/Jh9h/Qh9h/56s and our QhJh/QsJs for their fantastic Kx interaction + unblocking the FD's which narrow's OOP to more NFD's or combo draws/chops which autofold river. After turn b200 we really need our blockers to maximize the freq of these river autofolds especially if our opponent's know that we're Viktor Kudinov.
JT: Almost all of OOP's T9's would have bet flop or turn, so we want blockers that interact w/ OOP's 9x 3betting range that also x flop and turn - 8x,7x,Kx,Ax prob in that order based on freq. Both the T and J unblock OOP's call for b500 (T9/J9/Q9 all bet turn) and I truly can't think of a worse combo to bluff w/ for this size. The worst part is the size for the reasons stated, but b75 to get folds from a few weak 1p hands like K5/K6 or KQ/KJ/QJ would be ok bc it's no longer about blocking the str8.
I think when you see non-theoretical plays from a guy of victor's caliber i'd assume there is an exploitative reason for them, rather than that he is punting. I don't say this of many highstakes pros but Victor is truely one of the best in terms of understanding and implementing GTO, he's not going to be making obvious mistakes by accident.
If you run this (gtoW) you will see his riverbluff is pure. The reason for this (atleast the only thing i could come up with) is that the Qc is fine is because he is valueshoving KQ himself, making the Q block more calls. The 9c is also fine since it unblocks all of the K9s, which seems to have a much bigger weight in this line than the Q9 and T9cc, and all of these combos fold. Also when you pick these massive turn sizes, you dont really get to bet gutshots like Q9hh all the time and when you have this wide of a valuerange you need to bluff alot on the river. Yes QJhh and QJss Qx of non FD are all higher EV to jam but all in all, the Qd is still a positive blocker as it blocks KQ and only QJdd and the 9c only blocks a low freq T9cc making the blocker-properties good enough to bluff in a spot where you need to bluff almost all of your Qhigh and worse hands you arrive with.
I see in gtow this bluffing 12%, but I realize it’s an overstatement to call it a punt. We saw “every time” he played this hand and he shoved so in my mind he was doing this 100% but he may have just rng’d and rolled low freq.
@@melker6502 QJs flats SBvBT? No sim i've seen does that.
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Good content really enjoy the revieuws! Maybe use a voice changer? The sound is kinda meh
Yeah sorry about that I'm working on getting it fixed.
GTOw says viktor can only bet 150% pot not 5x pot on river
Hah yep makes sense, but you know in game these guys have to make their best guess and wing it, and also for exploitative reasons sometimes you deviate and do something different. If you look at GTO often even though it recommennds one specific sizing, the other ones are fairly close in terms of expected value so not a real punt to use them.
Do high stakes players tilt?
Yes
What is Viktor Kudinov's screen names he might be better known as?
Zas
zas
He also known as “Enlight” in Russian poker community
He’s also currently playing under the screen name 7skyaroundme or something like that on WPN/ACR
Bro your content is good but the vocal issue was hard to listen too
Thanks, gonna work on it anda get it fixed.
Another of the so called machines getting rekt. Have no gods besides the solv....Llinus
You mention that on double FD Boards sizing up makes sense. I am confused hearing that from you as a coach, cos if you look at the solver, PIO actually sizes down o double FD boards and sizes up on RB Boards...pretty disappointing teaching wrong stuff to new, upcoming players that believe everything you say.
It's a different type of dynamic, it's true that generally on rainbow boards your value hands can go bigger because they get counterfeited less, especially on the flop. But... there is certainly a dynamic of low frequency-superlarge bombing on these kind of turns, to "target" the pair+fdraw and combodraw hands and make them indifferent. You can't do it with a very wide range and it's not the "single-size" plan but it is in there.