Debating Lefties That Targeted The Canvassing In Omaha
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- Опубликовано: 3 мар 2021
- Destiny debates lefties that targeted him and the Omaha canvassing operation, including a rogue Hasan fan who called in another socialist friend and later makes inappropriate sexual comments toward Destiny...
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lmfao the kill report
I hate to say this but I am triggered by trigger warnings.
@@robbirose7032 Why care?
@@AnimeFan9833 Why care about what?
I'm still listening to the first caller and it's MikeFromPA levels of infuriating. I'm really glad you brought up Bernie and AOC's toxic followers. Oh my god, he just called you out for saying "you people" this person fucking SUCKS.
I just want to say I hope these fucking wastes of carbon don't discourage you from activism in the future. I found your stream a few months ago and it's been a legit sanity check for me, before I found you it felt like everyone on the internet (especially influencers/streamers) were just getting more and more extreme and operating purely on emotion. I think you're doing more good in the world than you realize.
I especially loved when you said to Pakman yesterday "I guess I'll just go back to whining online and doing nothing like you do" (something along those lines) because it's so fucking true.
"Mark is a shit candidate."
"Why?"
"I'm feeling overwhelmed."
... what the fuck was wrong with that person...? Why? I can't comprehend the unfair standards they hold to having a conversation.
I can’t stand them
I hate people like this so much.
To just get up there, drop the fucking ball, curse at the person allowing you on their platform, say absolutely nothing, and then claim being “overwhelmed” like an absolute coward.
What an imbecile
“I’m feeling overwhelmed” proceeds to use as hominems, and disparage him.
I felt bad for them at first because I despise public speaking but then they kept talking and said a bunch of stupid shit lol
"Mark is bad"
"Tell me how"
".... Destiny you suck"
they dont want to say it outright, but they dont like that he is white.
@@xDDufiosy I gotta disagree lol political people are prideful. They just don't wanna admit that any candidate except theirs has merit
@@xDDufiosy I'll be a bit more charitable. They don't like that he's not a minority like the other candidates. Subtle difference. Still dogshit for brains position.
Those darn debate tactics! 🤣🤣
is anyone taking this criticism seriously? they are obviously kids of course they say dumb woke shit
The SECOND you mentioned trans, they were like "LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS! I'M TRANS SO I'M AUTOMATICALLY CORRECT ON ANYTHING REGARDING THIS SUBJECT"
most intelligent Hasan fan
*Runs out of things to say*
*Choose action:
- insult
- get offended
- pivot*
Eeeeeeeeyup
What impressed me was how many times they executed all 3 choices at once. I mean my word
@illogicalrelish 6th option “STAY OUT OF MY FUCKING CITY”
In the words of Coach RedPill: “yes, see, retreat and pivot.”
>Runs out of things to say
Implying little homie had anything to say to begin with. He literally started the conversation by walking back statements and pivoting lmao.
Destiny: Why is Gudgel a shit candidate?
1st caller: I - I - I - I - I - I - I ... You you know you're a huge burden to this campaign.
Good God, I’m starting to think bullying will become the only correct strategy to getting rid of these fuckers.
I honestly feel bad for the 1st caller. They were embarrassing as hell. Painful.
@@cinnamoon423 how could you feel bad for someone who is gate keeping sexuality on social media. Then drunk from the power does something this embarrassing. Hopefully people learn how fucking stupid it makes you look and avoid this kind of behavior.
IM NOT LETTING YOU CONTROL THIS CONVERSATION!!! 😡😡😡
@Rosa Barks if you don't push back against these low effort dipshits then they control the narrative.
This really opened my eyes to what conservatives may see and hear when they describe left leaning people as insane and crazy. Like holy fuck these people have no idea how much damage they're doing, or have done for that matter, to any real progressive change.
facts
I've always read comments from people like this on Twitter, but to actually hear one of them talk was not even funny, it was just pathetic and sad, so much negativity and hatred
@@appleseed4672aggressively pathetic is the term i use for them they hate it
Yeah it’s true I also wonder where are these people I’ve never met on in real life and there everywhere online.
That first caller is actually a terrible human being.
Crying about the stress in talking in front of thousands of viewers. Meanwhile not ashamed of directing armies of people to attack Destiny by spreading ill intent lies. After all that, they're still able to convince themselves that they "cornered Destiny a few times". How delusional and vile could one be?
These people are the greatest gifts to conservatives LMFAO.
As a socially Conservative Trump supporter, these are the best kinds of Lefties. Many laughs to be had.
No kidding.
Sad that they wield so much influence in the democratic party
@@mutedmutiny9542 they do and clearly far more than the socialists currently have.
@@mutedmutiny9542 they dont have the power to singurly select the candidate but Kamala as VP was the big concession made to them. Joe specifically made it clear he selected her because she is a black woman
Proof that these people hate Destiny more than they love progressive politics. Would rather own Destiny than implement good policies
Remember when these kind of people wanted Trump in office rather than Biden because they are hurt that Bernie lost the Primaries.
@@MatPost I still cannot believe that people go through the intense mental gymnastics that’s required to have a viewpoint like that.
Would rather own them, but they’re not smart enough to
Spite is more important than anything else to these people.
Wrong, all they do is hate, they don’t really love anything except stroking their own… ego’s…
"I'm not letting you control this conversation" is probably one the most embarrassing moments from any Destiny debate ever. How could you live with yourself after a horrendous call like that?
And an hour later saying “I’m beating you” with nervous laughter. So cringe..
His friend: "Alright so, I'm a communist"
Literally everyone in a 50 mile radius: "Oh lord..."
"How is Gudgel a shit candidate?"
"UH LISTEN"
Uhh...
Uhh...
Uhh...
Uhh....
N word f slur reeeeeeeeee
"I've caught you in a corner a couple times" THE DELUSION IS UNBELIEVABLE
"Pigeon shitting on a chess board claims to have won"
This person either doesn't have any morals/principles or doesn't understand the basics of logic, or both. I can't think of any other way you could possibly be so inconsistent without realizing it.
That first guy sounds like one of those angsty teens, that are just constantly angry at either themselves or the world, but they don't really know why. So they pick one substantial thing they can even remotely conceptualize and then go all out against it.
>uses idpol as a shield and a sword simultaneously
>has no arguments besides adhom attacks
>”the world is ending I just want to smoke weed I have no idea what I want to do with my life”
I knew like 10 people like this in college and am happy to report they’re the exact same losers now that they were then.
Jesus this is pure identity politics. The kid at the beginning doesn't care about any of this shit. This is 100% for internet clout
Honestly if genuine fascism takes ahold, online leftists like him would be partially to blame. The far right are organising and mobilising seriously and here we have spiteful, ideologically possessed leftists going out if their way to deliberately target moderates simply for being closer to the centre than them, all while the far right are taking the cultural war *extremely* seriously. And then the guy at the end... 1:31:05 *THIS* is who we will have to stand shoulder to shoulder with if another fascist regime arises. This: 1:31:05
@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive no. youre too online. log off
@@zeekawesomecus917 lol, that last sentence. I don't know if it's backed up by research, but I want to believe it is.
@@WanderTheNomad I've heard of studies on how it can negatively affect minors. But nothing I personally have researched myself. I just see a correlation with kids that are abnoxiously stupid as this and how they also have an obsession with getting high or drunk.
@@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive The online Far right are a bunch of omegle loons getting everyone to hate them and then doxxing other far righters. I wouldn't worry dude. They are about as effective as these lefty callers.
Listening to these callers is absolute, pure cringe. Like... they should have hanged up in the first ten seconds rather than go through the embarrassment.
*hung
@@robbirose7032 Ok but then the "joke" (or whatever you want to call it) would be less effective cuz there wouldn't be, like, a direct recall of a word n dat get me??
@@Sampsonoff I had to start drinking to cope with the cringe.
@@excho no i dont sorry
@@robbirose7032 *No, I don't. Sorry.* *
"What's your major in college?"
"I wanna smoke weed"
"Did you know your candidate doesn't want that?"
"[nervous chuckle]"
"If you really like weed Mark's your guy."
"reframe refocus"
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...
...
...
"let's talk about Vaush. let's talk about that. let's talk about that."
LOL
time stamp?
@@plushgoat2357 somewhere in the last half
1:25:07
@@selakforn you’re a god
Destiny: What's your future prospects?
Him: The world is ending. I just want to smoke weed.
This is so telling.
i'd say something like that, but you'd never catch me being so repulsive
If the world was really ending this guy would of ended up either on a pike or as some warlords bitch
The first person who called in was big mad 2.0 holy shit.
Actually more of an annoyance than the "Ok groomer" dude.
Had a brief NoBullshit moment too
Genuinely can't distinguish him from an attention-seeker. He could be completely serious but it's gotta be equally likely that the guy's just a troll.
@@Nobody-uo2eo Groomer dude was definitely worse.
Let's see Booksmarts dissect THIS debate.
"I'm not letting you control this conversation"
Oh honey, you can't even control your own emotions.
Hi Ben!
@@revelationreflection Hello there
@@synchronium24 too soon
@@ATSaale I'm more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
@@darkchungusyoshi6323 If you define yourself by your power to take life. Your desire to dominate, to possess. Then you have nothing.
This will sound weird. I'm watching this video from Ukraine, recently started on Destiny.
For the first 10 minutes, literally, I'm recalling conversations that I had with people in a mental asylum. There was one near my home & one of my relatives was admitted there for therapy. Most of the people that are on the easier side are talking exactly like that person - jumping between topics, emotional fluctuation, protective, forgetting what they said 2 minutes ago, not having an end to their sentences or ideas. It's painful to listen.
"I'm an adult I'm 21 years old" lol
Dude will come back to this in about a year or two and hopefully see how much a dumb kiddo he was lol.
I'm 25 and still think I'm a kid
@@orivalx same
If you follow the legal definition, he is an adult.
28:36
Yeah and it shows.
I find it funny how conservatives like big papa fascist and homeschooled mom cry about showing yourself naked on the internet might have bad consequences for your future and now i‘m watching this person doing the same without any nudity involved.
Didn’t seem do be that exclusive of an argument.
Damn, I've done some cringy shit growing up but at least I don't have to live the rest of my life with an interaction like this popping into my mind
Lmao yeah man.
Right lmao
So true, this type of shit would never let me sleep again
This person is very clearly aneurotypical. You can hear it in their voice. I wonder how self aware they are.
“I’m getting nervous bro”
Yeah unprepared and ignorant people tend to get nervous under confrontation.
It's very ok in these situations to give yourself a min or two to collect yourself. Fuck the thousands of others, fuck Destiny, regain your composure. This guy was so bad faith that I didn't mind that Destiny was able to pressure him out of taking any breaks to regain composure. I feel like Destiny is definitely more sensitive to other's nerves, just fuck this guy.
That's unfair, speaking publicly in front of thousands is fucking hard if you're not used to it
This person has a lot of fucking issues but that isn't one
@@mutedmutiny9542 no. Being bad at public speaking only tells us you're bad at public speaking. Some experts in a field are terrible at it and some grifters are amazing. Focus on the message (which should give you plenty of fodder here anyway)
@@SimonH109 Exactly. As someone who is terrified of and terrible at public speaking, thank you.
I guess that’s why they got drunk?
1:26:46 wow we are surprised
I honestly feel so vicariously embarrassed for this kid... "I'll be a keyboard-warrior on twitch, but I get scared on a voice-call with a streamer, so I'm gonna get fuckin hammered and make an ass of myself."
I hope for his sake that he watches this in like 5 years and cringes hard
This video in one sentence:
"Mark Gudgel is a bad candidate because someone he's been associated with for a few months said a slur years ago."
In the context of talking about what one could or could not say on Twitch
@@seanmac1793 well technically destiny did use slurs a lot in his starcraft days which still qualifies as "years ago". But again that was a waaaaaay different time and I dont really see any of that shit as problematic.
I wonder if these same people that day that are bernie bros and if they still like him despite joe rogan endorsing him
Leftists: "prison should be focused on reformative justice"
Also Leftists:
@@miggydoms this
lol Jesus this first person cant answer questions at all. Wants to pick fights and throw ad homs has literally no warrant for a single claim made. These are the people with the loudest voices. Maybe bring some evidence and substantial arguments before spreading a bunch of toxic BS when you step into the arena.
It is absolutely disgusting. This person does not know anything about this election, but has invested so much time and energy into throwing shit at people. Lets hope its just a phase and they grow out of it... we've all done cringe things in the past...
Absolute demon.
@@johnford2517 an actual threat to society and democracy
Toxic caller complaining about others being toxic, lol.
The first person really needs to look in the mirror. I feel sorry for what a loser they have become. Even if they aren't a conservative. They definitely support the conservative movement by taking this action. They kept going around in circles with their argument. No fucking principle whatsoever. It is really sad to see.
'' People of Oklahoma doesn't want you here.''
- Random Twitter person speaking behalf of entire state.
Lol it's Omaha, which is a city in Nebraska.
The caller really used the “I’m drunk” excuse. I’m surprised he didn’t say “sorry my friend took my phone”
Well they are quite obnoxiously intoxicated. I would have hung up, honestly. I can't stand being sober and talking to drunk people.
I got so much second hand embarrassment from listening to these people
Already? Damn. Me too though.
It literally hurts.
@@commenttroll6933 I watched it live! The Hassan baby boy thing was too much to handle .
I’m not even 5 min in and this is seriously painful
I am embarrassed for them to holy shit this was embarrassing Destiny was even going that hard and he cracked so quickly
I want to say “Destiny is a girls name“ but I know a lot of people are going to read this and I’m getting kind of nervous.
Looooool
D-d-d-Destiny is a g-g-g- ... 👉👈🥺 ... n-n-nevermind...
It’s ok bro if you’re feeling overwhelmed
OMG you are original👏🏼👏🏼
Hilarious 😂👌🏿
The first caller is still living in the "I said some stupid shit 5 years ago, but I've actively changed" phase.
He got a lot of work to do, we will see 5 years from now if he's still deranged.
yo was that mel? sounded like mels goofy ass
@@patrickbateman1974 dude makes a solid case for bringing back prefrontal lobotomies…he’d be infinitely more sufferable drooling all over himself in a wheelchair
Damn I’m starting to genuinely feel bad for destiny. I get how people find him annoying but the level of hatred I’ve seen is insane
This is the first time I actually felt genuine hatred for someone Destiny was talking to. I can't believe even Fuentes was not close to this.
Fuentes is a public figure, this is just a random off of Twitter.
@@vallewabbel9690 Fair enough, but not even one person out of all the conservatives Destiny debated. I used Fuentes because he's often labelled as nazi as an example but I could have said anyone else.
Absolutely. Usually I'd just laugh at these takes and brush it off but this actually made me really heated. The absolute smugness and immaturity of these "people" is unreal.
Nah. These people are douchebags but Fuentes deserves more hate. He's a public figure who does more harm than some randos did on twitter.
"Mark's a shit candidate"
"Why is Mark a shit candidate?"
"..."
Because destiny said the n word in the past, absolute freight train of thought
@@Miszor420 If we use the 6 degrees of separation, we could also call Mark a nazi.
Seriously this is unreal!! It's shocking the first caller hurt my head. He's so passionate about Destiny and his past.
Nothing substantive, just :"you said sLuRs!!!!" This is crazy. Is Destiny running for office?
@@Miszor420 man this is just so rediciolus, like there is a fair use of any word,
Not gonna lie dude, your stance on "anti-rioting" is refreshing as fuck
It isn't even politics to this kid, it's fucking sport.
1st Caller: "You said the N-word and F-slur"
Destiny: "Whoa, hey you said the F-slur here."
1st Caller: "..." Also, they complain that Destiny is bringing up "things they did 5 years ago" when that's literally what they're doing.
The point really flew over their head
Dude lacks all self awareness. He's a sheep.
Urghhh that first caller was such a broken human being.
Yep. A little self important and unhinged about some chip on his/her shoulder
A 21 year old special snowflake that claims a number of "identities" to hide behind? Why am I not surprised?
@@user-zv2vm8bd8h Eh, I don't think that's why this person has those identities. It's certainly got little to do with how shit their ideas are, and there's really no reason to point it out
@@AchillesThePeacemaker He pointed it out himself, very quickly in the debate. It was meant as a shield from criticism.
“I’m not gonna let you control the conversation”
*destiny controls the conversation*
That first trans person seemed like actually insane, I really hope they get the help they need to not be so hateful and put a more positive impact online. The other communist guy seemed alright though.
''Caught you in a corner''
If you only knew how much of his power level he is hiding.
genuinely concerned for these people
These people are the future of politics. Christ.
@@thatindiandude4602 u mean these are the ppl who will be handling the 10s of millions of climate refugees? awesome.
I’m genuinely concerned for the country.
@@backwardthoughts1022 they will be the ones creating refugees.
@@coreyander286 what disturbs me is that these people are the living embodiments of right wing stereotypes
The infamous local Omaha politics grift.
MLK didn't support riots, he understood how they happened, and he sympathized with the people who committed them.
Greasy weirdos: “Destiny if ur a lefty and u want change for the better in Amerca than go do it lmao 🙄😂”
Destiny: *does just that*
Greasy weirdos: “Noo you said the N-word before, this is bad. You shouldn’t be doing that 😡🤬”
Greasy is ableist!!!
As a leftist I appreciate that you label these people accurately.
He really does live rent free in everyone’s mind
@@oswaldmosley36 truth.
This comment is extremely lipophobic!
only watched the intro so far but this is giving me real golden age Debatestiny vibes and i am here for it
Kinda sus how destiny wants ppl to think this person is equating blm protesters to animals when he's clearly talking about ppl generally. Like isn't this what that newspaper did to him about his Kenosha comments?
DebatesTINY
@@muhammadsaqeeb5298 Yeah but you shouldn’t judge ppl on the level of “just animals” people have awareness and control of their actions.
I don't know if this is on the same level as Tonka debates but man that was something
@@Sampsonoff yes I do, I don't blame him when I rarely see the mature leftist activist I know have critical discussions with him. It's problematic bc I want the strong minority of us in this campaign to be the model for these ppl rather than modeling liberal politics. At the end of the day, I want power. Those kids just want to whine how they have little power.
"I'm doxxing myself"
"I'm getting kinda overwhelmed"
You good? LMFAO
38:52 I TURNED MYSELF INTO A JLP SOUNDBOARD MORTYYY, I'M JLP SOUNDBOARD RIIIIIICK
"You get donations for just sitting around and talking about your dumb politics" - Twitter Troll, while chastising Destiny for canvassing
To be fair, he was drunk. And probably high too.
It just hit me omg it’s an omegalul
That first person circumnavigated the globe moving the goalposts back.
I was drinking my soy and almost choked on this one. Good meme
Elon Musks pretty mad rn first caller colonized Mars by moving the goal posts there
He moved it so far back that he ended up in the starting point again, then immediately began walking back again.
@@AchillesThePeacemaker he was backing it up so much I thought I was watching a cursed episode of SpongeBob
On the 2nd guy...
People dont have free will?
I understand getting caught in a moment. But digging up bricks out of the ground is not something that "just happens"
It takes an action
'How could you justify this murder?'
'oh, it was mob mentality, and i absolve any responsibility those individuals had. They turned into animals like we all are and just acted upon External influences...'
No, people do not have free will. You can find tons of material on this subject. Destiny himself has argued against the idea of free will.
Always gonna come back and revisit this masterpiece.
99pq
The second guy was the usual affair: incredibly misinformed and vicious on twitter, and then very cordial on stream. BUT that first caller, hoooly shit, I truly pity you from the bottom of my heart. Good luck in life.
@@mutedmutiny9542 sadly i think it seems like the anti Destiny crowd won in the way that mattered in the end
@@adamtwarowski1053 superficially, which unfortunately counts for a lot these days
@@adamtwarowski1053 i dont think they had the election yet but i wouldn't say anyone "won" or "lost" yet. and honestly i wouldn't use "won" or "lost" for this regardless, just because he motivated people enough to go out and get involved in local politics. That is fucking huge, regardless of the election's outcome.. OR these internet dweebs.
@@Disarmedaxe1 No but Mark had to disavowe Destiny and if I understand correctly cut all ties so the assholes won in the sense that they stopped Destiny from helping Mark's campaign.
@M S wow, is there a clip of them talking with vaush or did they just get banned for shit they said in chat?
what an awful person. They are actively trying to discourage young people to get involved with politics at a local level. Disgusting behavior.
It's only because they are playing identity politics in there head she dislikes destiny so much she dosent care about mark at all even if destiny helped another major elect she would disagree with them strictly because destiny tryed to help not just imagine if she knew where most of there campaign money comes from and the organization/corporations that back these other people honestly that woman is so blind it's damn unreal
Power is split between people who partake in the political process. Communists don't want broad political engagement because it detracts from their power.
Young people really shouldn't, I did, and I regretted making an embarrassment of myself.
@@MastaOfMonkeyDisasta So go do some research and try again, don't discourage others at what you failed to do. I didn't know what was wrong with him, so the other med students don't even need to try?
“I’m tRaNs LeTs tAlK abOuT iT”
The first person in the call is genuinely one of the saddest people I have ever seen, no goals in life, only hatred in his heart claiming to be in a city that is "only his", being hypocritical and not doing anything for his local community neither. It's disgusting to see how inhumane or meaningless these people are in terms of contribution to society.
Destiny has me sitting on a whole other continent caring more about the Omaha elections than my country's politics lmao.
I have a great idea, let's get Destiny to actually support *Stothert's* campaign. At this rate they'll be cancelled by the end of the week!
I was lit thinking Destiny should declare his unilateral support for his enemies, then they might infight rofl
Fuck it, let's set up a rotating schedule for each candidate, that way it's fair and equitable when they're all cancelled at the same time.
Children think that "Controlling the conversation" means talking over their opponent. They think loud is control. Children.
So why is Destiny abusing this child on stream? Someone should do something about this man.
The guy was controlling the conversation, just in one of the worse ways possible
"online pundits are frauds that don't change anything!"
Canvasing
"You've tainted the candidate by volunteering for him!" Even thought the average person has no idea who destiny is.
This is going to fuel me in gym today
Go for it champ
For real though im big mad
nice xD
That first dude was absolutely unhinged. Holy shit no wonder no one takes these people seriously.
Your people
@@edwardrichard8093 hate watcher detected all your comments on this channel say the same thing lmfao
"people dont choose to riot"
"I chose not to throw any bricks through windows"
First guy came in hot then went right into victim mode and expects sympathy. How do this people live in the real world? They don’t and are terminally online.
this was actual insanity, watching this live was a real trip
When was this streamed
look at this hero who watches live
@@1999_reborn last night
This was actually the dumbest person I’ve seen on stream I’m p sure.
That's wild! All I hear is a mumbling kid and boss music talking back.
This sad and dumb. You've inspired many to get involved even though this didn't work out!
It's kinda sad that Destiny has to interact with those brainlets
@@Trappu- I can't genuinely believe this shit went down.
@@bulletsizednuke1100 Yeah they're so biased against Destiny that they'll use anything to try to criticize him. It's so pathetic and unreal..
@@Trappu- My brain still thinks it's a troll. A person can't be this stupid.
Bro are you a legit doctor?
why are people who align with the leftist ideologies always so anxious, socially awkward and easily overwhelmed?
Started funny and ended in a very sad tone.
That person has no idea what they stand for. They exist just to fill up space.
Man I hate people who take strong stances when they haven’t taken even a moment to examine why they believe what they do.
They aren't the majority of people right? I think my faith in humanity would completely shatter if that was the case.
@@WanderTheNomad Hate to say it but....
@@sadboipotato3382 don't
It's funny to do ironically, but these people were serious.
Mmfm r.
"People only riot when they are really angry so it is unreasonable to hold them accountable for it." I can't even laugh at this.
Yeah it sounds really convincing if your room temp IQ and don't think about it. If you think about it at all it's one the most insane things ever said
Abusive husbands only beat their wives to death when they're really angry so it is unreasonable to hold them accountable for it.
@Rosa Barks But does it justify directing that violence at local business and neighborhoods owned by the people? Would not directing that violence at the politicians who contributed to that system and where they congregate prove more effective? This is how the Black Panthers approached this thought before they took the California capital armed by force.
@Rosa Barks First off you never answered my questions. And second we live in a economy which contributes all of peoples efforts and funds into the system. You can't live in today's society without contributing to it. Punishing the people for what they worked hard for is no better than beating a fellow slave. Their possessions are their bitter pittance in a world you seek to change. Now let me pose you this question, how have you contributed to this system and should you be punished as well by your fellow man?
@Rosa Barks I gave plenty of context for you to answer the questions presented, through which you gave me no answers at all, as well as answering your questions. You are lacking conviction in your own beliefs. I can only assume you are either young and naive or intellectually dishonest. I left room for a nuanced answer and I am genuinely involved in this exchange. Please engage confidently and note any counter as well.
I think this first caller -- after hearing him come back to proudly clown himself after the more mature, equally disingenuous second one -- is probably the least intelligent person I have heard speak on the internet
Caller 1 is having a stroke. I'm speechless.
im so jealous of how much control destiny has over himself lol
I have no idea how he didn’t burst out laughing through the whole thing
I agree, would be really entertaining to see him explode on these people though.
@@DragonHuman00 bro he had like 300 opportunities, all justified, to go balls to the wall HAM on that first guy and just clown him for 90% of the stuff that came out of his mouth. Destiny is much more mature now and I think that nuke destiny is gonna manifest itself in more subtle ways
I respect that as well but to be honest, I think it is a lot easier when you constantly see those donations flowing in.
@@dip9995 i agree, not to mention the context of this convo, Destiny has invested tons of money and effort into this and now it's all over just because of morons like these, its infuriating to me and i wasn't even affected at all by what they did, Destiny has the patience of a monk
52:45 a white guy fuelling the fire of riots destroying local business is not an ally to black people or to any of the people that live in that community. Destiny is correct here and the dudes friend calling in is a sheep. Simple.
all it seemed like this person knew of destiny was that he once said Two slurs without any context to it lol
Destiny holding onto that tweet for 20 minutes to decimate the first person I'M DYING
"...Gudgel is a shit candidate."
How is Gudgel a shit candidate?
*no answer*
EDIT: *DESTINY SHOW THE CLIP* >:(
EDIT 2: The hypocrisy is hilarious. It's okay to attack Destiny based on his past, but when Destiny points out how other people also fucked up in their past its "weird".
My jaw legitimately dropped when that guy followed up Destiny's excellent point about white people leading the charge in riots with: "tHaT'S a sTRawMaN" LIKE WHAT?! Listens to debates once and learns this buzzword 4Head
I think that's very disingenuous of you to say. I think you're just grifting right now. You weaselly little liar. Yes, all my thoughts, opinions, and statements are completely original and influenced by no one. Because I am a free thinker.
Kappa
yes when you are correct or "winning" in a discussion you have to constantly tell the other person or the audience that your winning but never back it up
I just happened to end up here today, and this is still one of the most depressing conversations ever. Imagine having zero policy positions and just being upset because a streamer you don't like supported a guy. Embarrassing.
It’s actually kinda crazy that the online lefty perceives Destiny as almost a David Duke like figure
Sorry for being dumb for asking but, whos David duke? Again sorry for not knowing...
@@masterxitra David Ernest Duke is an American neo-Nazi, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, far-right politician, convicted felon, and former grand wizard of the Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. From 1989 to 1992, he was a member of the Louisiana House of Representatives.
@@dankpepememes8984 wew holy hell thats a yikes..
Guess i know now.
Destiny Derangement Syndrome and Vaush Derangement Syndrome are serious diseases that are ravaging the terminally online.
@@dankpepememes8984 holy shit that's unbelievable
When I see people like that first caller come away from the conversation still thinking they were in the right, it makes me not want to debate anyone ever again.
Dude. It makes me not want to debate, have discussions/conversations on certain topics, or politics in general, even more. I already lost interest in those due to the fact that it just starts bitter wars that doesn't get solved.
@@kaini4074 I understand that view and I've definetely been there, but the odd productive and actual cordial discussion/debate with the right person can be so great and rejuvenating to my drive for understanding philosophy. Those moments just about manage to keep me going.
@@8OBO8 Sometimes I don't even want a debate. I usually want just a discussion/conversation on your views and my views, our differences, how we view the others opinions/views, and the middle ground. That's mainly what I want, but instead we have people that decides to stoop to a level so low that it's just sad.
@@kaini4074 to me that essentially sounds like a perfect debate. But yeah I agree
So when conservatives called rioters animals, did this Mark guy agree with them? Or is it only acceptable when he says it about them?
Coming back to this again, I understand Destiny's positions now perfectly. Holy crap these people are awful
It is the worst. These people are so glib and painfully emotional in their thinking.
@@blueballedtech I’m surprised Vaush fans haven’t accused you of being a white guy with a black person’s picture. Anytime I defend destiny’s positions I get that lol
Spoiler alert 25 minutes in, still can’t give a reason why mark is a shit candidate
uhhhh listen...
"You're a burden to his campaign"
@@Heart_ken01 tHiS Is My cItY
It must be such an infuriating feeling that people still come at him over the same 2 or 3 gotchas that have no real context to his viewpoints whatsoever, despite clarifying them on stream like a hundred times each.
@M S yea that's actually one of the ones I was thinking about, that one guy that kept referring to his son's age used that a lot
The "dont compare black people to animals" bit was a giga cringe virtue signal.
Sucks this happened. I truly believe you started something. You've lit a fire and One way or another, we will carry this torch. I can speak personally this is inspired me to do much more in my own community.
Above is my nice comment. now I'm ready for this shit post of a debate I've been hearing everyone talk about
Honestly, I can't even meme this. This is just depressing and i'm sad people like this exist solely to obfuscate the political process and bring measurable harm to people.
"Its weird you don't know your age" Is so funny to me and such a give away for what a child he is. Nobody past age 25 can recall their age within seconds. “I’d rather be a hypocrite than the same person forever.”-Adam Horovitz.
Yes, its like they are silently counting the days to get their presents. XD
Lol the older I get the more true this is.
Real, I’m only 19 and still have forgotten a few times and had to think about it
I think this video is a great example of Destiny matching the energy of the person he's debatin. People often claim he's the first to aggress, but in this conversation you can clearly see him being more aggressive with the first person who was incredibly disrespectful from the beginning, and much more respectful and calm with the second person who, although still engaging in similarly disingenuous tactics, wasn't nearly as disruptive or disrespectful.
I almost feel like the kid had a moment of clarity when he mentioned Vaush, like "Oh, shit I don't actually want this to come back on Vaush." That's why he all of a sudden started saying "I'm a Hasan fan." and "Say you're Hasan's baby boy."
Or is my tinfoil hat on too tight this morning?
He had messages in both their chats
this person is so far gone holy shit
Its people like this guy who have a fixed mindset that shouldn't hold any starch in the public eye, he came into the conversation with insane biases and didn't even check to see if his biases were solidly founded and now here I am watching our boy Steven talk to a floundering fish
Bonus meme: they're so mad and white that I can feel it through the screen.
WHAT A MESS!
They are mainlining their mayonnaise
Sounding kinda racist ngl
@@edwardrichard8093 it is racist,.but it is also true.
@@edwardrichard8093 how can factual statements be racist they're mad and they're white plus you're white.
I missed this entire Mark campaign arc so I'm really enjoying digging cracking this drama open.