3:34 the funny thing about ike's final smash is that once i was playing with a friend (who had VERY little experience in the game) and i played as ike and he was ness. when i used the final smash at the same time he used ness' bat and when they colided the final smash had no affect, it was really awesome.
What I found interesting about avoiding the Ice Climber's ice mountain ability is that certain characters, like Samus (Zero Suit does not work), are less prone to being frozen by the attack (unless you hit the mountain itself, chances are that you will not get frozen), meaning that you can still stand your ground during the Final Smash. My theory is that Samus' Gravity Suit is secretly in effect here, but who knows why?
The ice climbers final smash (the mountain) when you hit it down, it decreases the range of where it can hurt you and where it can not. For instance if you hit the mountain down enough, you could easily save yourself some effort and just stand on the edge and you can't be hurt by it.
@Extermidalek If you're in the air, you'll free fall if you get caught. That thing that happens when you shield break. If there's no ledge under you, you're dead.
This video is very helpful, i'll keep these in mind when playing Brawl. Also i do have another way to dodge Meta Knight's final smash.. If your playing as Lucario that is.. a very carefully timed down-B (which is Double Team) will allow you to dodge somehow. (I found that out around a week ago)
> Opponent is a glowing machine of death > Not running I'd say I did a pretty good job of summarizing that it's not smart to charge in head on unless you can read what they're going to do. It's like burst reading in Blazblue.
If you use Ike's Up Special (Aether) at just the right timing, you can dodge Zelda/Sheik's FS. It's tricky to use, though, because there is a delay between button press and character rise.
For Luigi's FS, it can be sometimes impossible to dodge if it causes you to be either stunned, asleep or if it causes uncontrollable taunting...in which case it doesn't matter what you do, you will be KO'd
Yeah... These are just tips... When you slow down, it's just like the timer... your invincibility frames stay longer too... But other than trying to get out as fast as you can, there's nothing much you can do...
@PeachAndYoshifan1000 You have to stay in the air for the duration of the move. So yeah, technically just use all three (or more) of your jumps to avoid being put to sleep.
Yes... I did forget to put that in... but I only realized that after I rendered the full video... I just didn't think it was worth it rerendering everything after it was already done just for one tiny detail that could cause the computer to freeze due to lack of memory... (You wouldn't believe how many clips it took to put it together... and how much memory it took to put them on the Vegas timeline....)
Another way to dodge Peach's final smash is to be Sonic and before she starts it, use his special up move on the ground. Just keep jumping on the spring till the FS is done. That's my way of doing it. You need timing for this because you'll never know when the player will use it so I just do it the whole time.
for Snake's you can just stay in one place and sidestep every single one, there's a noticeable delay from when they are fired and when they make contact so it is pretty easy to time, in a 1v1 this works really well, if there are 4 players might be a little harder to do this if every one is still fighting, but you can still air dodge as needed and avoid most of them
Fun fact: search up videos of SDI/DI (Smash directional influence and Directional influence) and you can actually escape SOME final smashes (you can also sdi out of PT's final smash, you need to sdi up)
I know this video is 4 years old, but I just felt like mentioning that you can minimize damage from the Ice Climbers' Final Smash by using Lucario's Down + B. I know it works for Lucario, but I'm not sure about the other counterattacks.
Personally, I find Ike's Great Aether harder to dodge than Link's Triforce Slash...mainly because of how much more immediate Ike's opening hit is than Link's. And greater potential to catch multiple foes. And higher KO potentia - ...Ike, you are so cheap!!
Just so you know, it is possible to dodge Ike's final smash after he has already hit you. If he catches 2 people you can side step the last part of the final smash. My friend has done it to me 3 times, but it is really hard to time right.
what i usually see with the pokemon trainers smash is the cpu's getting fully caught or they avoid the solar beam, keep getting damaged by the hydro pump, and getting killed by the last fire blast
about pit, the problem isn't dodging the final smash while pit is standing around jumping, it's dodging the midgets while pit is also trying to hit you. It's easy to dodge it on its own, but it's the part where pit can still do things while it's active that's scary.
For Sonic, he transforms only, just do as Yoshi's and you'll be fine, BUT it's a lot harder, since any collision with Super Sonic will make worrying damage.
hey thanks for all 3 parts and tips. 1 question if u dont mind answering, wut do u do if they are edge guarding during a final smash? (For example Ice climbers)
Keep in mind though that some stages, especially moving ones, are a menace with the Ice Climbers' Final Smash. Not they will they trap you forcing you to lose a stock, they also make the Ice Climbers themselves to destroy themselves.
It's just a concept.... Same thing can be said about how I said to dodge the landmasters.... These just give pointers on how best to dodge each final smash... ROB can simply kill you by crouching down if you decide to hang over the edge.... Given that pit can move and grab you while you shield.... well... I'll just leave that to the players... I appreciate the input though....
4:17- 4:40 When Sonic was dodging nearly of Snake's final Smash attacks, Sonic should have said, when Snake was done, "You're too slow" since Sonic was running so fast that Snake had a hard time hitting Sonic.
FS with no or very long delay are hard to dodge. MK's cape is easy for he has just enough lagg for you to use your reflexes. But Ike's GA doesn't have any lagg with the first swing. Zelda/Sheik's arrow is also quite hard. People say the attack is stupid, hard to hit. But you just have to wait for your chance
@Holyfire10000 Yeah... and you apparently can't accept that people play the game differently. Brawl was originally meant to be a party game. I play the game with both items and no items
Are you talking about side special? (I say "special" instead of "B" because I use the nunchuck instead of the gamecube controller and have the specials set to the D-pad)
@marlo1014 theres this green bubble around him and gives you damage, if you touch him while he is in the bubble your stunned and your open for attack best way to avoid it stay away from him
That's not a glitch. That's called "taking a stock from your teammate" and only works for Team Battle. Usually you'd ask permission before taking their extra stock. That's common courtesy.
Thanks for making these videos! I don't really like playing with smash balls on, but sadly, my friends do. But now, I know how to dodge all of their final smashes >:D
you forgot to show a well timed dodge if Meta Knight caught someone that isnt you cause when Meta Knight gets soemone that isnt you it will just make you slow and in a certain moment when your gonna get hit you can dodge it but the one who got touched by the cape or the players touched by the cape cannot dodge his final smash
As you mean which final destination version it is? That's Giga Bowser Melee theme. It's similar to the Melee version of Final destination. The difference between the two is the pitch.
I removed IC final smash with a meowth, ho-oh and waluigi. it eventually did only damage on the ground. it was on wario-ware, the platforms in the air were safe for the oppponents of the IC
I found out a way to attack in negative zone with Lucas and Ness! Use PK Thunder to protect yourself from Luigi or lunch yourself. This can by done the entire time you are in the zone. I don´t know if this aplies for PK Freeze, PK Flash and PK Fire.
When gannondorfs power how did u do that? Like wat controls is that? I can only sidestep like when u gaurd and slide left and right but i cant gaurd while standing still
It's possible to make ganondorf's final smash impossible to avoid. you must use his flame choke (B-smash) on the enemy it has to be on the ground, if used in the air people can avoid it by rolling forward. flame choke sends the enemy to the ground and allows you to quickly use the final smash beast ganon. this should make people who know how to dodge it get hit by this move so you can easily hit them with the final smash. i figured it out myself.
It's possible to make ike's great aether final smash impossible to dodge by using the first two hits of his standard combo then press the special move button (the regular button) this should make people who know how to dodge it get hit by the move. the standard combo causes enemies to flinch so you can easily hit them with the final smash. i figured it out myself on wifi battles.
With Jigglypuff, and this move "Sleep" (B + down) she gain a some time of invencibility more of an normal dogde, it's perfect to avoid one-hit Final Smashes, especially, Zelda's light arrow, Ike's fast hit, etc...
i don't know if this works with ike since i havn't tried but it works with lucarios double team when ice climers uses final smash u can double team and lucario will double team damaging ur opponents whislt taking no damage whilst doing it
But then... you'd sustain damage from the FS AND pulling out the hammer too long... but it IS a good way to get out of it... but it's almost the same way as Rolling out of it....
If the setup is perfect, Snake's Final Smash is avoided with no damage. A. Snake is a human player B. There are 3 other human players C. Its a large custom stage with a lot of areas where a small shell would blend in D. You need to be playing as Squirtle All I did is hide and duck the whole time. Funny thing is that I sucked badly when that happened
@SuperMightyMichael 1 you have to have internet on ur wii and then go onto Nintendo Wifi Connection go to friends mode set ur taunt speech bubbles go into a match and you will find that it works (only works in friend brawls)
Captain Falcon's True Final Smash is his Super Falcon Punch The SFP can destroy the Brawl Universe with one press of the button The game designers at first decided to weaken CF in hopes that the Super Falcon Punch would Weaken. Then they decided to change his FS, but they forgot to re-buff CF
As a Peach main, I laugh at these tactics on Wi-Fi. I won't start the Final Smash as soon as I get it, nor will I start it when everyone's in the air or on the ledge. -.- I take advantage of the vulnerability of everyone and start attacking them. For example, if someone's on the ledge, I'll drop a turnip or dair them, which can lead to an easy gimp. If someone's in the air, they'll have to land eventually. Start the Final Smash right before they're about to land.
@kainouthehedgehog566 wait isnt it ominous wind/shadow force instead cuz lucario comes back and attack. tell me if im wrong but that's wat i think it is
I would like to point out (not to brag) that my 5 year old cousin air doged my final smash i was zelda he was sonic the moment he jumped i shot the arrow and he AIR-DODGED IT i gave him so much praise
Theres more way to dodge peach's final smash!!! Simply hold on to the ladder, or keep bouncing on the spring if ur custom stage has at least one. however u still take some damage though (plz thumbs up if u agree me)
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So Peach's final smash it's just like "THE FLOOR IS LAVA"
You could also jump over Ganondorf when he uses his FS.
3:34 the funny thing about ike's final smash is that once i was playing with a friend (who had VERY little experience in the game) and i played as ike and he was ness. when i used the final smash at the same time he used ness' bat and when they colided the final smash had no affect, it was really awesome.
What I found interesting about avoiding the Ice Climber's ice mountain ability is that certain characters, like Samus (Zero Suit does not work), are less prone to being frozen by the attack (unless you hit the mountain itself, chances are that you will not get frozen), meaning that you can still stand your ground during the Final Smash. My theory is that Samus' Gravity Suit is secretly in effect here, but who knows why?
The ice climbers final smash (the mountain) when you hit it down, it decreases the range of where it can hurt you and where it can not.
For instance if you hit the mountain down enough, you could easily save yourself some effort and just stand on the edge and you can't be hurt by it.
Snake: Damn hedgehog! Hold still for one friggin' second!!
@Extermidalek If you're in the air, you'll free fall if you get caught. That thing that happens when you shield break. If there's no ledge under you, you're dead.
This video is very helpful, i'll keep these in mind when playing Brawl. Also i do have another way to dodge Meta Knight's final smash.. If your playing as Lucario that is.. a very carefully timed down-B (which is Double Team) will allow you to dodge somehow. (I found that out around a week ago)
@saifsami11 They're online with friends only. You set them on the "With Friends" sub-menu when you click on all your options, like tag name, etc.
> Opponent is a glowing machine of death
> Not running
I'd say I did a pretty good job of summarizing that it's not smart to charge in head on unless you can read what they're going to do. It's like burst reading in Blazblue.
If you use Ike's Up Special (Aether) at just the right timing, you can dodge Zelda/Sheik's FS. It's tricky to use, though, because there is a delay between button press and character rise.
For Luigi's FS, it can be sometimes impossible to dodge if it causes you to be either stunned, asleep or if it causes uncontrollable taunting...in which case it doesn't matter what you do, you will be KO'd
> July 2008
> HD was implemented in November 2008
Back then, hell yes it was.
Yeah... These are just tips...
When you slow down, it's just like the timer... your invincibility frames stay longer too...
But other than trying to get out as fast as you can, there's nothing much you can do...
@PeachAndYoshifan1000 You have to stay in the air for the duration of the move. So yeah, technically just use all three (or more) of your jumps to avoid being put to sleep.
Yes... I did forget to put that in... but I only realized that after I rendered the full video...
I just didn't think it was worth it rerendering everything after it was already done just for one tiny detail that could cause the computer to freeze due to lack of memory...
(You wouldn't believe how many clips it took to put it together... and how much memory it took to put them on the Vegas timeline....)
Another way to dodge Peach's final smash is to be Sonic and before she starts it, use his special up move on the ground. Just keep jumping on the spring till the FS is done. That's my way of doing it. You need timing for this because you'll never know when the player will use it so I just do it the whole time.
for Snake's you can just stay in one place and sidestep every single one, there's a noticeable delay from when they are fired and when they make contact so it is pretty easy to time, in a 1v1 this works really well, if there are 4 players might be a little harder to do this if every one is still fighting, but you can still air dodge as needed and avoid most of them
I agree with you.You sax that even sonic got some hits to.
Fun fact: search up videos of SDI/DI (Smash directional influence and Directional influence) and you can actually escape SOME final smashes (you can also sdi out of PT's final smash, you need to sdi up)
theres another way to dodge the ice climber's final smash, if there is a springboard currently on the stage you can use it to stay in the air
I know this video is 4 years old, but I just felt like mentioning that you can minimize damage from the Ice Climbers' Final Smash by using Lucario's Down + B. I know it works for Lucario, but I'm not sure about the other counterattacks.
Personally, I find Ike's Great Aether harder to dodge than Link's Triforce Slash...mainly because of how much more immediate Ike's opening hit is than Link's.
And greater potential to catch multiple foes.
And higher KO potentia -
...Ike, you are so cheap!!
If you're at a low enough percentage, he can back throw you straight into it.
{shudders} Great, another reason to loathe it...
If you are at low enough %(Percentage), Link can throw you forward into his Final Smash.
+shadowofchaos725 You are right that Ike can do that
On a video that was made 5 years ago.
Yes. I'm totally going to remake it. Totally.
Just so you know, it is possible to dodge Ike's final smash after he has already hit you. If he catches 2 people you can side step the last part of the final smash. My friend has done it to me 3 times, but it is really hard to time right.
@8BRAWL Because, I was still new at the game when I made this?
what i usually see with the pokemon trainers smash is the cpu's getting fully caught or they avoid the solar beam, keep getting damaged by the hydro pump, and getting killed by the last fire blast
about pit, the problem isn't dodging the final smash while pit is standing around jumping, it's dodging the midgets while pit is also trying to hit you. It's easy to dodge it on its own, but it's the part where pit can still do things while it's active that's scary.
For Sonic, he transforms only, just do as Yoshi's and you'll be fine, BUT it's a lot harder, since any collision with Super Sonic will make worrying damage.
hey thanks for all 3 parts and tips. 1 question if u dont mind answering, wut do u do if they are edge guarding during a final smash? (For example Ice climbers)
Keep in mind though that some stages, especially moving ones, are a menace with the Ice Climbers' Final Smash. Not they will they trap you forcing you to lose a stock, they also make the Ice Climbers themselves to destroy themselves.
It's just a concept....
Same thing can be said about how I said to dodge the landmasters.... These just give pointers on how best to dodge each final smash... ROB can simply kill you by crouching down if you decide to hang over the edge....
Given that pit can move and grab you while you shield.... well... I'll just leave that to the players...
I appreciate the input though....
4:17- 4:40 When Sonic was dodging nearly of Snake's final Smash attacks, Sonic should have said, when Snake was done, "You're too slow" since Sonic was running so fast that Snake had a hard time hitting Sonic.
Noob snake players make me want to kill myself, I would've rekt sonic
It Also deppends of the person that controls snake...if Is a human of course
FS with no or very long delay are hard to dodge. MK's cape is easy for he has just enough lagg for you to use your reflexes. But Ike's GA doesn't have any lagg with the first swing. Zelda/Sheik's arrow is also quite hard. People say the attack is stupid, hard to hit. But you just have to wait for your chance
@Holyfire10000 Yeah... and you apparently can't accept that people play the game differently. Brawl was originally meant to be a party game. I play the game with both items and no items
Are you talking about side special? (I say "special" instead of "B" because I use the nunchuck instead of the gamecube controller and have the specials set to the D-pad)
@marlo1014 theres this green bubble around him and gives you damage, if you touch him while he is in the bubble your stunned and your open for attack best way to avoid it stay away from him
Another thing with the ice climbers fs if your on a big stage stay as far away as possible
That's not a glitch. That's called "taking a stock from your teammate" and only works for Team Battle. Usually you'd ask permission before taking their extra stock. That's common courtesy.
toon link comes in handy for the iceberg by jumping and doing the down+A or his hookshot
@ohHELLyeah147 You just don't press the attack button. It'll come out after a while.
#YOSHISAREAWESOME
How you explained how to dodge all final smashes:
1. Dodge.
2. At the right time.
3. Use the Dodge to your advantage.
4. Dodge at the right time.
Thanks for making these videos! I don't really like playing with smash balls on, but sadly, my friends do. But now, I know how to dodge all of their final smashes >:D
on pit's final smash. I think it's funny how he says your no ready yet. But it says "Nice"
Nice vid u've made!
I may only ad that attacks like Pit's may be easely dodged with conters like Ike's and Marth's. Especialy Pit's.
you forgot to show a well timed dodge if Meta Knight caught someone that isnt you cause when Meta Knight gets soemone that isnt you it will just make you slow and in a certain moment when your gonna get hit you can dodge it but the one who got touched by the cape or the players touched by the cape cannot dodge his final smash
@TDIdialgagirl they've changed the interface, so now press the "360p" button and select "480p"
you know you could also jump over ganondorf's FS and it should not hit you so that is an easier way to dodge it if your timing is a little off
@corbinbleu77 Meta's down B is a no-no... if you didn't notice, it's laggy as hell...
As you mean which final destination version it is? That's Giga Bowser Melee theme. It's similar to the Melee version of Final destination. The difference between the two is the pitch.
@ILMxKenny All final smashes go through their counters... they are useless unless you've got "frame perfect" timing...
With yoshi, can we reflect his fireball such as fox's reflector or absorb it such as lucas or ness's PSI magnet?
If you have good timing then using lucario, marth, or Ikes counters then you can dodge pit's fs that way too (harder with marth and Ike)
there is another way to dodge Ice Climber`s final smash.If you stand on a high platform and it`s far away enough, you won`t take damage.
"His stupid what?" :P
Barring the typo, he's technically right. Because acting like a coward is the only way to keep your life from a final smash.
I removed IC final smash with a meowth, ho-oh and waluigi. it eventually did only damage on the ground. it was on wario-ware, the platforms in the air were safe for the oppponents of the IC
I found out a way to attack in negative zone with Lucas and Ness!
Use PK Thunder to protect yourself from Luigi or lunch yourself.
This can by done the entire time you are in the zone.
I don´t know if this aplies for PK Freeze, PK Flash and PK Fire.
When gannondorfs power how did u do that? Like wat controls is that? I can only sidestep like when u gaurd and slide left and right but i cant gaurd while standing still
@NoahAndJaden it's online brawl, you can't do it in normal or special brawl.
you can ONLY do it in online brawl.
That's what I meant by side dashing, air or ground, its the same thing as sidestep but I used a different term.
Flying around is infact one of the best way to avoid most of the FS. It's not by chance that one of my favorite characters is Pit
@ivanman500 Doesn't help if his cursor is in front of you, since the screen moves with you. You'd be too predictable spamming that move.
It's possible to make ganondorf's final smash impossible to avoid. you must use his flame choke (B-smash) on the enemy it has to be on the ground, if used in the air people can avoid it by rolling forward. flame choke sends the enemy to the ground and allows you to quickly use the final smash beast ganon. this should make people who know how to dodge it get hit by this move so you can easily hit them with the final smash. i figured it out myself.
i learned to dodge ganondorf's final smash myself although the sidestepping helps
@PrincesTomboy hold down the shield button, the move the nunchuck stick left or right :)
It's possible to make ike's great aether final smash impossible to dodge by using the first two hits of his standard combo then press the special move button (the regular button) this should make people who know how to dodge it get hit by the move. the standard combo causes enemies to flinch so you can easily hit them with the final smash. i figured it out myself on wifi battles.
Sonic has done me quite well in avoiding Snake's final smash, but I might have needed help with others. Thanks, dude (or is it dudette?).
Will floaters like kirby, pit, etc. will have a bit easier time dodging peaches's FS?
Ike's Final Smash is actually the hardest to dodge. You can combo into it.
With Jigglypuff, and this move "Sleep" (B + down) she gain a some time of invencibility more of an normal dogde, it's perfect to avoid one-hit Final Smashes, especially, Zelda's light arrow, Ike's fast hit, etc...
Sleep?
XD
+WillRockElite I think that he meant "Rest"
@1999spyro Control stick DOWN instead of left or right to sidestep/spot dodge
i don't know if this works with ike since i havn't tried but it works with lucarios double team when ice climers uses final smash u can double team and lucario will double team damaging ur opponents whislt taking no damage whilst doing it
But then... you'd sustain damage from the FS AND pulling out the hammer too long... but it IS a good way to get out of it... but it's almost the same way as Rolling out of it....
I freakin LOVE yoshi!
@ Gana-whatever his name was, was he a bull or rhino?
Lol. After pit's final smash Pit say ''Your not ready yet'', but he also say ''Nice''
How do you use that fly ability with Pit? It's similar to Meta Knight's Up B Special.
Could you do How to dodge final smashes in the new SSB game when it comes out?
If the setup is perfect, Snake's Final Smash is avoided with no damage.
A. Snake is a human player
B. There are 3 other human players
C. Its a large custom stage with a lot of areas where a small shell would blend in
D. You need to be playing as Squirtle
All I did is hide and duck the whole time. Funny thing is that I sucked badly when that happened
Is dodging snake's FS is helpful by rolling dodge too or air dodge, or whatever?
The kernal thing is a secret taunt if your fighting luigi at snake's stage
@SuperMightyMichael 1 you have to have internet on ur wii and then go onto Nintendo Wifi Connection go to friends mode set ur taunt speech bubbles go into a match and you will find that it works (only works in friend brawls)
Captain Falcon's True Final Smash is his Super Falcon Punch
The SFP can destroy the Brawl Universe with one press of the button
The game designers at first decided to weaken CF in hopes that the Super Falcon Punch would Weaken.
Then they decided to change his FS, but they forgot to re-buff CF
When I saw Snake's smash and Sonic dodging them all, I was tempted to make an Eggman joke. But I couldn't make a good one.
You missed something about Yoshi. If you do NOT shoot fireballs with Yoshi's fs, he will start spitting fire downwards.
you can also jump over ganondorf Fs if ur lucky that u already jump on the first time he activated then jump again and then up b attack
Sonic doesn't even need to jump to dodge Snake's FS. I promise that if you dash as soon as you hear a grenade fired you won't get hit.
As a Peach main, I laugh at these tactics on Wi-Fi. I won't start the Final Smash as soon as I get it, nor will I start it when everyone's in the air or on the ledge. -.- I take advantage of the vulnerability of everyone and start attacking them. For example, if someone's on the ledge, I'll drop a turnip or dair them, which can lead to an easy gimp. If someone's in the air, they'll have to land eventually. Start the Final Smash right before they're about to land.
I agree, I see no part of what shadow said being rude, all I see is him pointing something out.
you can also jump ganons if you are not to close
@kainouthehedgehog566 wait isnt it ominous wind/shadow force instead cuz lucario comes back and attack. tell me if im wrong but that's wat i think it is
How about to dodge the Wii-U smash bros characters, like... Zero Suit Samus, has a different smash Attack than Samus, how do you dodge that?
Pit:You're not ready yet!
Text: NICE!!
so that means that with zelda there are more possibilities to do the final smash if the subject tries to sidestep??
for gannons fs bounce moves (link and toon Links down a)will bounce on the beast and you will dogde the fs just letting u know
I like this it shows me very useful ways to mess with my friends.
fs that have limited one time range (marth and ike etc.) i have a suggestion... stay our of the attack range
@ProductionInferno It's a "Nin10doh" joke.
I would like to point out (not to brag) that my 5 year old cousin air doged my final smash i was zelda he was sonic the moment he jumped i shot the arrow and he AIR-DODGED IT i gave him so much praise
Theres more way to dodge peach's final smash!!! Simply hold on to the ladder, or keep bouncing on the spring if ur custom stage has at least one. however u still take some damage though (plz thumbs up if u agree me)
You mata knights final smash also hurts his team-mates if he has any.
Nice job on the video by the way.