People hate it because it is as silent as a 3 cylinder 100 HP daily driver. And they are right. Nobody wants this in a sports, or even more Hyper Car! It's not that ugly... but with no sound, it's just boring. It might perform better, but it doesn't have "soul".
Personally, there are other Ferraris you can buy that are a bit more of a show piece. It’s pretty obvious this is a no-compromises road legal track car. It’s meant to be the fastest machine they can sell you. If that means it’s ugly or quiet, so be it. I might prefer to have something else but this car is obviously designed for the 799 people who want it to be impossible to get passed on a track day
Whoa. Hold up. Stop. V6 or not, at no point is putting a race engine in a road car considered "cost cutting". Race engines cost more at every stage, from development to production, not to mention the further cost of detuning the engine and selection of parts still needed to handle the engine's power while maintaining the streetability and comfort of said road car. You could say a lot of things about Ferrari and the F80 but saying they were cheaping out here is ridiculous.
exactly my thought. i also like the idea of having a le mans hypercar engined streetcar. the f40 had a 2.9 twinturbo v8, so its not like they broke with tradition.
It is cost cutting. The R&D is already done for the V6. It was already paid for. It is the same cost cutting VAG does. They reuse their same engine over and over again throughout different car models. It is a cost savings method.
Most Ferrari customers are not buying multi-million dollar Ferraris. Public perception is the biggest reason people buy Ferraris, it shows success in a cool and beautiful package. If public perception gets worse and the cars are no longer cool or beautiful, no one will dream of buying a Ferrari anymore and in the long run this can and probably will ruin them.
@@costafilh0 Ruining a company with Ferrari's legacy will take more than one halo model misstep. It will hurt them, yes, but Ferrari has come back from disappointing models in the past; it will do so again. It's very unfortunate the company allowed its engineers to overrule its designers and released something this awful.
@@jamesaron1967 You're forgetting that the next Halo car will be an EV. There's no turning back. This is it. This was their last chance, and they missed it. Good for the lucky SP3 owners. And those who couldn't afford or get an allocation are getting the 12C. The legacy is dead. And not just for Ferrari, but for most manufacturers. Lamborghini is all hybrids and EVs now, but at least they're still making the V12, I guess.
They said the same thing about the F50, today that car is an icon. Btw, the only thing that bothers me is that they used a V6 in a hypercar and a V12 in an SUV. A really stupid choice for me
Hmmm…let me get this straight. You’re saying that critics have “flipped,” but then all of the well known publications are celebrating the car while lesser known publications are bashing it? I’d understand if Car & Driver/Motor Trend flipped AFTER a test, but to say they all changed their minds based off of an opinion that lower tier publications have had all along is straight CAP!
@@HowToSpec , I won’t deny what you’re saying may be true. What I AM saying is that if you pay attention to the video, you notice how C&A, MT, etc. all have praise for the car, but Car Buzz…which has been known to be VERY wrong is bashing it. Dude made it sound like C&A, MT and all of the well known journalists suddenly changed their minds. He also quotes random social media posts as valid collectors; I bet almost all of them only collect garbage or drive a Civic😂
@@HowToSpec again, my argument isn’t with someone who has an opinion about the car. I can care less to be honest as I’ll probably never see one. But I do agree that the car should have at least have a TTV8 or a V10; to be fair, the F40 has a TTV8 as did the 288GTO which were also halo cars as you call them. I’m speaking to someone presenting stuff as fact just to get likes or viewership. Some journalists like the car and others don’t. I don’t see a change of minds anywhere and I bet C&D/MT’s support for the car will only change for the better once they drive it.
Car and Driver/MT tend to stick to numbers, smaller outlets get to be more opinionated because they don't have to worry about falling out of Ferrari's good graces due to their words.
The problem with the design is the black strip. A design cue like that could only be brought back once, not for two models. Each Ferrari had it's own character until now.
I think it looks FANTASTIC. It looks like... a real car. Gives me warm nostalgic vibes of the F-40 and other supercars from the 80's and 90's before everything looked like a spaceship. I love it. The sound... not so much.
As a life-long Ferrari fan I just gotta say they've lost their way. Their cars are getting worse and worse for the past 10 years, their interiors are absolutely awful with all the touch controls, their recent cars will forever be "from their time". Also nothing with a Ferrari badge should have less than 8 cylinders, Enzo said it 60 years ago!
I'm not fond of many of the modern on steering wheel controls either, but by worse you mean sound and looks? ....try to look at the performance instead... The cars keep getting faster and more dynamically efficient. What Enzo knew then, doesn't stand against modern technology. A V12 sounds better but doesn't perform better than a smaller, lighter turbo charged unit. Check the Lambo Revuelto, they've opted for a naturally aspirated V12 with the hybrid system. It's an exceptionally fast car - but not as much as a SF90 with a smaller engine capacity V8 twin turbo. ...and The SF90 is definitely slower than the F80 with a V6. I'm ok with keeping performance the top goal, specially with limited edition hiper cars.
It would be a little embarrassing being in your ferrari, mc20, or ford GT and your excited shotgun rider asks what kind of engine and you have to explain the v6. I struggled with this when I had a v6 Pontiac G8.
@ Displacememt or number of cylinders is how engines weee measured 40 + years ago. Forced induction and now also electricity changed that. It is still that way but only for people that know little about ICE. Maybe a bit more for Americans since they don’t have turbos on many of their vehicles. In Europe it’s precisely the opposite, almost every vehicle has a turbo …and about half of the ones being currently sold, have electricity boost or are pure EV.
@rellotsscrewdriver8996 um excuse me? he literally made a separate Dino brand because the V6 wasn't worthy of wearing the prancing horse, you have no idea what you're talking about
@@22Epic 😂 atleast it has 1700 hp. But koenigsegg stopped free valve engine to production. Now gemera has tt v8 2300 hp at 7800 rpm. Price start at 2.2 mil
The scaglieti is great, Clarkson loved it and said it was the best ferraris in the lineup when it came out. It is today loved by many enthusiasts and iconic.
@@rkwjunior2298 Not necessarily. You are forgetting one thing in particular: Some engine bays are not made to suit big engines like a V8, V10, V12, or V16. Ferrari cares about one thing: money, and as long as it's their way of business, it's going to stay that way whether others like it or not.
The Ferrari F80 is essentially a Le Mans car for the road, which is why it features a Ferrari Le Mans engine. This ensures that both buyers and drivers experience the essence of a true Le Mans race car. All major motoring governing bodies now impose strict regulations on engine limits and greener race engine technology. Since the F80 serves as a halo model inspired by Ferrari’s Le Mans heritage, it naturally reflects these advancements in engineering. If you're looking for a car built exclusively for raw speed, sound, and performance without compromise, a Bugatti or Lamborghini might be a better choice. However, the F80 is a road car designed in the spirit of a Le Mans racer, blending cutting-edge performance with real-world usability. I don't like the shape personally, but people don't get it.
Ferraris were known for 2 things back in the day: beautiful design and sounding amazing. This car has neither. The top tier ferrari has to look good and have a v12. No exceptions.
That's wrong what that RUclipsr was saying because Ferrari didnt always have the same coach builders. The design language of Ferrari has changed dramatically over it's last 80 years. That was just a generalized opinion of certain Ferraris because the sP3 doesn't look anything like the F-40 or F-50. So bad example if you ask me. That's, his opinion & once you truly look at all the past Ferraris, you will see that.
Ferrari needs Pininfarina back. The whole lineup is extremely lacking. The 296 GTB for example is just ugly. The last good looking Ferrari's are the 812, 488 Pista, F8 Tributo and the 512 TDF. Ferrari's current design language is lazy and full of dumb design cues like the randomly placed black panels that serve no purpose.
The comments defending this overpriced V-6 Fiat kit car stink of paid bots, paid by a manufacturer that seems to have joined the fad of kids these days neutering themselves.
I don't know why they couldn't have put a V12 in it, emissions aren't effected by the number of cylinders a engine has. Clearly they can and do make V12s that are emissions compliant.
@Allhailme121 AMG One has a V6. So why can't Ferrari do it to show the motorsport link between their road cars and F1 and the 499P Hypercar? That V6 engine in the F80 is a two time Le Mans 24h winner.
@@horsepower523Ferrari doesn't build enough of these type cars to justify a V6 when your customer base is so used to more cylinders. Can it be fast yes. I had a 600hp GMC Syclone that basically beat everything on the street 25 years ago. It sounded like a V6 though.
@@jostrander71You missed the point, Ferrari's high end car is to showcase their prowess in racing technology, their v12 and v8 isn't powering any of their current race cars, so that's why the v6. Their icona cars will have a v12 and will be produced in limited quantities.
Ferrari got worse, for the best part, after they switched from classic Pininfarina to inner Style dpt. Under Manzoni. As simple as that. Go check back to the 50s who designed almost any Ferrari up to the 458
i liked the f80 because I expected the worst from the prototype, and its perception was definitely influenced by the mclaren - a truly ugly, misshapen supercar. to me the sp3 looks like some kind of insect. i think in this class the sound is not so important, the main thing here is the lap time. and maybe v12 will be in fxx version. yes f80 looks like cool lego kit, so what? overall Im satisfied
It’s very hard for me to accept that the top end Ferrari is a ttv6. I know the 288 GTO & F40 have a ttv8, and are universally loved. But, for me, a Ferrari needs a screaming v12 to be a halo car
F40 has a V8 numb nuts. The SP3 is just a La Ferrari that they added a bunch of ugly crap on the front and back. Looks super tacky and just an ugly La Ferrari. The F.80 looks pretty awesome and it's damn cool it has the race car engine. Just like how Ford GT put the v6 engine in that was in the race car. I'm so happy they didn't make the SP3 the successor to the La Ferrari! They got it right, and that F.80 is a driving beast!
@davel696969 I was saying that because the clown in the video was saying the flagship cars have v12's and that's why it was bad the F80 had v6. I have no problem with anything on the F40, just showing this guy he's tarded...
Testarossa was a flat 12. And that race engine in this is actually impressive. Most people's favorite race car (mp4/4) was a twin turbo v6 so this idea that v6 = shit is dumb af
ZR-1 is either going to come close or exceed the F80 with what Ferrari should have done. Where the ZR-1 had a twin turbocharged 5.5 DOHC V8 the Ferrari could have done it with twin variable geometry turbos on the 6.5 V12. That configuration could easily exceed anywhere from 1400-2000 whp. None of the gimmicks and an engine configuration. The hybrid system in several years will be so archaic and all the proprietary technologies unbelievable expensive or not possible at all. This car is beyond hideous. Go back to Pininfarina. Ferrari has became a joke. They care more about their brand than making sexy and fast cars. I have much more respect for Porsche now. The kids aren't salivating over Ferrari's anymore. They're looking at 2JZ's, S58's, Voodo, and so forth.
Bro is comparing the Revuelto, a glorified Aventador that keeps getting beaten by 5yo SF90s, to hypercars that could be game changers in terms of on track performance. No one pays that amount of money for the looks alone.
@ if you don’t care about the engine and want something for the track, these things aren’t going to beat the McMurtry Spierling, Porsche 919 evo or rimac Nevera R (the non-R version has already made the SF90 look like a joke), which are 2-3 years old, that ‘game-changing’ track performance threshold has been passed long ago. So instead of worrying which car is faster on track, i’d rather have the sound of an NA v12 with a gintani exhaust over a turbo v6 which is quieter than the sound of the wind passing by.
@jikau7374 Oh so now we are comparing not road legal/barely road legal track cars, with road legal hypercars? What's next, comparing the Chiron with specialized dragsters? The Nevera is the fastest in a straight line, on track can't even beat the 918 Spyder on the Nordshcleife. What are you on about, apart from lying and over exaggerating stuff to reinforce your point? It's funny that you can't even separate road legal from not road legal, and track performance from drag racing. It's fine if you don't like the car. Just don't pretend the car was supposed to appeal to you, and that the brand's vision is less important than your own.
@@dcarvalho6144 The Revuelto is barely slower despite having for all intense and purposes the same amount of power (50 horsepower more at these levels is meaningless), and weighs 500 pounds MORE. If you don't see how impressive that is you are a monumental moron.
It sounds to me like an aftermarket exhaust would make some sexy noises. The clip of the F80 in the rain from behind, when the car gets a little loose, was excellent, just heavily muffled. This car has the turbos, multiple catalysts, and probably an active muffler that is most likely in quiet mode for these track runs. I do agree that the car has been made for aero and maximum DF, and its styling took the backseat here. But I don't believe the car will be thoroughly admonished for its looks, nor its engine. The price is in Bugatti/Koenigsegg territory, and that's the real disturbing point. As for styling, I feel it's not only appropriate, but also will become highly considered in years to come. I have been watching the company (and I haven't liked much of the Ferrari politics and cronyism) since 1988. I was at the 1990 NY auto show at the Javits center, and since I personally knew the folks at Miller Motorcars, they gave myself and a friend VIP passes that let us (and I mean only us!!) up on the display to sit in the very first F40 American spec car. It was an honor! Since then, the F50 was ugly at first to me. But the design became so impressive when you sit and stare at the car with no preconceived feelings to ruin the experience. In the same way, the Enzo was also hideous to me on release, but I became admiring within a few months. The F80 also hit me wrong at first. And now I can see the beauty in the design, but I have changed my feelings this time faster than the previous examples. As for the driveline... It's not a factor of how many cylinders a car has that makes it special. Some of the rarest and most expensive Ferrari contain inline 4 cylinder engines. Bodies for these ancient Mondial models can fetch millions of dollars. On the Ferrari website, this is what they say about the car: "Powered by a 2000 cc four-cylinder engine, this model acquitted itself very honourably indeed in a whole host of races" Then there are the Dino V6 cars. Those, even though not badged Ferrari, were indeed made in the Ferrari factory. Although the engine was a V6 and also the same engine was offered in Fiat models, the Dino V6 is known for its glorious sound. Those cars are now pretty much unobtanium. They fetch handsome sums likely to exceed the price of an incredibly posh home. So why is everybody butt-hurt about the F80? I think too many journalists and critics just expect crazier and crazier designs, but then when a car like this OVER delivers on crazy, they rant and insult the design. These same people would also enjoy 24 cylinders and 6 turbos, and expect nothing less or else your offering isn't up to par. Also, I haven't heard anyone complain about paying well over a million for a early 70's Carrera RS 2.7? Yes far sexier than the F80 in every way, but the F80 is the mean look. Not meant to be sexy, more of a warning to pedestrians to get out of the way RIGHT NOW. It does this brilliantly. The overall ethic of the car reminds me of the Corvette C8 bodies, as far as the mean look goes. I wouldn't normally compare the two cars, but they both look mean- not pretty. Someone who grew up appreciating the old C3 corvette body lines might indeed be repulsed by the C8. Same goes for people expecting some new F40 retro-looking new hypercar who sees the F80. The real crux of the problem is the people who can afford these cars have driven the prices out of control based only on exclusivity and the boys club mentality of the company at large. All the high end brands are suffering this same fate of being controlled by, and fully in the pockets of, the wealthy mega-rich people who don't want YOU to have one. The Ferrari 288 GTO was once an affordable car (still expensive, but not prohibitively so) at 78,000 at launch and 84,000 USD the end of production. They skyrocketed in value over just a few years and by 1990 were trading for 1M USD all day long. This market only lasted for a couple years, and rapidly crashed once the few buyers willing to pay up at that price were satisfied. Soon many people who just bought the cars as investments were unable to purchase the F40, for "speculation" on the markets, as Ferrari realized they missed out on selling these cars at 200,000 USD. The company punished its customers by artificially raising the prices of, and exclusivity to, its new buyers. They pushed the F40 out to 300k USD, and yet the 288 GTO was five times rarer and more special, and also had more creature comforts and time spent on it. This cemented the price inflation of all exotic cars at the top of their respective ranges. The McLaren F1 is a great example. It was the most expensive car of it's time, and now worth 20-30M USD. It has a special version of a BMW V12, but it's still based on a relatively common engine. The F80 has a very unusual V6 at 120 degrees, almost laid flat. The 296 shares similarities and should serve as an example of the sound that may lurk under the F80s muffled stock exhaust. Time will tell. But the latest Ford GT does indeed fetch quite a bit of coin and it has a V6 "Ecoboost" engine. Should we all just say it sucks and forget that it is a modern poster car worthy of its heritage just because times have changed? At least the F80 still has a fuel burner. If it was full electric, I wouldn't even bother writing this tome. THAT would NOT be a Ferrari. It would be an appliance.
The contingency with F80 will be temporary at the moment. Since initial time of release, i can understand. Also which reminded me at a certain point i was once never into the 458 Italia or the LaFerrari initially. But as I got older i started to see the style of it and pretty much understand their incentive. Like V12 engines being more sought after, like how many car enthusiasts expect crazier designs and such. Sometimes variety of V6 or V8 can stand out for different models. I personally think the F80, is supposedly trying to stand out. Like something fresh out of an ideation from Ferrari. I’m not too hyper focused on looks but on the perceptive spectrum, I can see the direction with Ferrari. Which i can compare to other car brands as of 2024.
I said it last week when I first saw the F80 that in my opinion, it was f……g ugly. How did they go from the beautiful designs of the 250 GT, 512BB, the 288 GTO, the F40, F50, the F355, the 458, F488, the Enzo, the LaFerrari to the F8 Tributo, the so so SF90, the 296 and all the way to the bottom dwelling F80. I even disliked the elongated front ends of the Roma, F8 Tributo and the SF90. Meanwhile, Lamborghini is getting all the love and accolades from winning beautiful design after another. As a long time BMW and Porsche owner, even BMW has joined the ranks of ugly designs with exception of the 3 series, 8 series and perhaps the X3, X4 and X5.
I'm sick of people saying you are hating because you can't afford one or you are nitpicking. If you don't like the car you don't like it. I don't like it. Nor can I afford one. Plus it's a v6. You can't be serious to ask the people that can afford it to buy a V6 for that much money.
@wildsword6856 That's his opinion, brother. It's not wrong or right. It belongs to him. Obviously, you feel otherwise. That's the beauty in people. Different outlooks tastes and likes.
Something which will kill the *already-oversaturated* automotive journalist/pundit space is how unbearably cynical virtually all content is these days. I'm a lifelong car enthusiast and take most of the year off from zooming in on this stuff because being negative appears to be the sole goal at this point.
I have met no one who hates the 612. And the Mondial T coupe is on of the best sounding, most fun and RAREST Ferraris in America. I do agree the new car is lame and not attractive. Ferrari desperately needs to bring back Pininfarina.
Because Lamborghini discontinued their V10 while Ferrari didn't discontinue their V12. Also, the powertrain in the Temerario isn't going to have the most performance among all Lamborghini cars, so the change wasn't justified. Meanwhile the flagship Ferrari is about racing technology and performance, the v6 is the correct engine for this reason. Someone doesn't understand the difference between the two situations. 😂😂😂
@@steven_taylor_U are clearly a dumbass Ferrari didn't even go to a V8 they went straight to v6 for the 296 and this ugly hypercar the only Ferrari that has a V8 is the Roma and sf90
Speaking about not having the "most performance" Lamborghini temerario uses the V8 from the lmdh Lamborghini hypercar but it revs to 10k RPM get ur fact right the la Ferrari is way better than this LEGO of a car
@@NwosuChimaobi-gb7hq Correction, Temerario's v8 is based on the v8 in their lmdh car, it's not the exact same engine while in the F80's case, the v6 is straight from Ferrari's LeMans winning hypercar. Ferrari won LeMans with the v6, Lamborghini was just there to make the lineup with their v8. Also, the v8 won't have the most performance otherwise the revuelto would get cannibalized. So keep dreaming about the poser car matching F80's performance. Talk about getting facts right, how about you stop ignoring facts!
@@NwosuChimaobi-gb7hq U blackass have no idea why Ferrari went with a V6 instead of their V8. The V6 is their best performing engine, it also powers their LMH which won LeMans, this car looks like a hypercar, it's purposeful, it's not your average poser car.
I don't hate Ferrari, i don't have money to buy Ferrari but to be honest, even if i had the money, i wouldn't buy it any of their cars. I prefer cars that are durable, comfortable , safe, reliable , i don't want to feel every bump in the road and make a sound like a fighter jet and pay a ton of money for that. Not my type. I don't see the point of these cars, sorry. The only reason anyone would ever buy these things is to show others that they are rich. LOL. Give me 30 billion i couldn't care less about what others think. I would still drive a brand new Lexus, a car that is made to be driven not made to be kept in a garage as a trophy. So yeah, sorry, some of us don't like Ferrari because we like comfort , safety and blending in. But you go ahead and buy your street rocket it doesn't impress me at all. Ferraris are like planes, private jets. Take me where i need and show everyone how cool i am but it costs me 1 million a year just to keep that thing in working condition lol. These cars aren't made to last, they are only made to last one day of racing.
Blame it on the restrictions, not Ferrari. Why didn’t the internet “experts” stopped the lawmakers when they were making stricter rules on emissions, noise, etc.
They should've stepped into twin turbo V10 territory and used the F40 as design influence while admiring the strength and beauty of the animal on the badge.
The Ferrari F80 looks like Ferrari's attempt at making a track-based version of the current gen Lamborghini Countach while still making it legally distinct *enough* for it to be considered their own car... a.k.a. putting Ferrari badging on it.
The 296 shocked everyone with how much they enjoyed that v6 Hybrid. Something is off here. This is on paper an upgrade over a car people love in the 296. I will wait until more comes out. It can’t sound this muted lol something is up
re: "It can’t sound this muted lol something is up". well you're in the AGE OF EV's so yes it can sound this muted. what Ferrari are giving you in the F80 is EV Performance but WITHOUT the EV weight penalty. many people don't realize it but despite it's use of a CF monocoque a Rimac Nevera weighs over 5000lbs (same as a Porsche Taycan) whereas this new F80 is rumored to be only 3700lbs, so that's a massive 1300lb difference.
@@phillyphil1513 I mean I understand but naw man lol the 296 is using this same hybrid basically but sounds amazing for a V6 and is fun to drive and great performer This is supposed to be a notch up or 5 or 10 from that lol you can’t have this car not AT LEAST sound like that one with way more power
@@UrbanBDKNY re: "sounds amazing for a V6". well see there are a great many (V8 snobs mostly) who would likely take issue with that, and i can't say that they're wrong or they're right, mind you this coming from a guy who's track car is a "poverty spec" LT1 Camaro... however being a true gear head (and this is just me) i personally have no problem with 6's since being around Porsches, BMW's, the related Mk5 Supra, R35's, 2JZ's, etc i know what they're capable of. heck i can even appreciate K24's and Rotaries and as if to make the point, i'll see (and hear) ALL of these configurations tuned to the ABSOLUTE MAX come next weekend at the annual Haltech Finals (Imports Vs. Domestics) down in Maryland at MIR. re: "This is supposed to be a notch up or 5 or 10 from that lol". well can you honestly say looking at the F80 (parked next to a 296) that the latest Ferrari Hypercar is not "5 to 10 notches" ABOVE a GTB from a visual perspective...? i mean the F80 looks like a friggin' SPACE SHIP (a bad ass space ship). re: "you can’t have this car not AT LEAST sound like that one with way more power..." oh but you CAN have exactly that (and you will). again, it's very important we pay attention to the calendar on the wall and recognize (good or bad) that we're now DEEP into the era of EV's, Hybrids, and electrification where vehicles like the Tesla Tri-Motor Plaid, Dual-Motor Porsche Taycan, and Quad-Motor Rimac Nevera make absolutely ZERO SOUND while "crushing" everybody on Torque and HP, the existence of these vehicles goes some way at explaining WHY the F80 is now itself a "Tri-motor" electrically speaking. that being said, something else important to recognize is how the LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Porsche 918, and Gen-2 Acura NSX are all now basically 10 year old designs (2013). these are the Gen-1 Performance Hybrids originally inspired by F1's introduction of KERS a full 3 years earlier for the 2009 season... okay now fast-forward to the year 2024 and now we have the 7x Champs Mercedes AMG One, McLaren's W1, Lambo Revuelto, and the Bug' Tourbillion soon joining the party, but out of these 4 cars the only TRUE RIVAL to the F80 is the Mercedes (which stands to reason since the Germans are the ones to most recently break Ferrari's dominance in F1).
…Enzo Ferrari used to say “to make them beautiful it costs exactly the same than to make them ugly ! …so I always decided to make my cars looking beautiful! Therefore the problem is the new Managment as well as why Ferrari is not winning in F1 races there is no more passion in the Managment 😢
People talk a lot of sh*t when they should just stick to silence. We live in an era of entitlement and hubris, where everyone thinks they have the right to express an "opinion", without realizing it stems from ignorance most of the times. Considering the F80 "the worst Ferrari ever" just proves it. In terms of absolute performances, it unquestionably is the peak (at least from the Brand). Please, less catchphrase titles as well...
I'm sorry but I had to dislike your video for two reasons. 1: I think you try referencing The Big Five but forgot to mention the F40 and why Testarossa? Maybe you meant the 288 GTO? 2 Putting the Le Man engine in the F80 is not for cost saving, that's literally the whole point of this kind of car!
Nah, F40 was nuts when released, F80 viewed front looks like a generic model sports car from some video game that doesn't want to pay any license fees.
@@ConanOG a generic sports car that happens to look like a modern Group C car? Yeah, no, the F80, even if you don't like it, doesn't look anything like a generic sports car. It looks quite unique actually.
at first I was very skeptical about how this car looks, but now, after some time, I realize how futuristic and amazing this car is. it suddenly makes all previous supercars look extremely outdated.
@@Paradox81818 For starters, you should know that Ferrari wasn't selling this car to just about anyone, they were selecting only their loyal customers.
We as a car community have put so much unfounded premium on cylinder count and out-of-car noise. When you're sitting in a car with a race grade motor, you WILL hear it loud and clear. It's quiet on the outside more than likely to meet noise regulations no matter where a potential owner wants to drive it. And frankly I think this is a concession that we as a community need to learn to accept and appreciate. It's all about the DRIVER. We focus so much on how many cylinders a car has or how loud it is when we stand next to it that we often don't even talk about how fun driving such a performance focused car can be. We as a community don't put enough emphasis on what actually matters in a performance vehicle, that being, THE PERFORMANCE. We give up on any and every car that isn't loud as shit or doesn't have a V8 or 12 unless it's actively breaking a record of some kind. And even then we hardly acknowledge it before going back to drooling over a V12 that has worse performance than some V6 motors. We love to call ourselves car enthusiasts and then disregard a car that is built for THE DRIVER and values said driver and the performance of the vehicle above all else just because it isn't obnoxiously loud. Not everyone enjoys our hobby. We actively choose to disrespect that and then have the audacity to be surprised when regulators make it hard to enjoy this hobby freely. Whether or not a car looks good or bad is 100% personal taste. I personally really like how the F80 looks. It's clean, simple, and visibly built to be a track toy. It has a Le Mans winning power unit ffs. We're seriously complaining about a motor that has won one of the most prestigious races in the world just because it isn't loud. That's fucking ridiculous. It's made to go fast. You'll hear it when the only thing separating you from it is a sheet of carbon, some weather proofing, and MAYBE 3 feet (probably closer to 1.5-2). It's not SUPPOSED to be loud. It's not SUPPOSED to be this flashy display. It's a rich dude's track toy. The driver and their experience is the only thing that matters with this car, and they're not hiding that AT ALL. This is a VERY in-your-face display of "fuck you, this car is about ME" and frankly, I think we more cars in this vein. I don't like Ferrari. I think they're a dog shit company with some of the worst practices in the industry. BUT, I have a lot of respect for such the massive middle finger that this car is. They're not being cheeky or coy with this car. ESPECIALLY with the price tag of 3.1 MILLION dollars. This is a car for their most loyal customers, and nobody else. I may not like Ferrari, but I can respect the F80. And I think we all should.
It's not JUST that it's a bad design (boring, uncharacteristic, detached from Ferrari history, punch in the eyes).... It also has lazy engineering (powertrain is scalped from the SF90 stradale and mixed with the 296 ice, chassis is scalped in part from the 499P and the SP3, and they just added active 3d printed suspension on top of it) and an incredibly tame sound (sounds like a fucking city daily). This car is... Simply... Complete bollocks. It's garbage under almost every single aspect PS: Since I'm Italian and I've heard the "Environmental impact"... I can very simply tell you, that's complete bollocks lol. The Italian govt has lobbied against EU regulations to protect its car history and heritage (one of the very few things they did right lol) and reached an agreement that can be boiled down to "Limited run, highly exclusive vehicles, with low production numbers (aka lambo, ferrari, maserati and similar) will be exempt from EU restrictive sound and emission regulations". So no... Ferrari did it because it costed less to them to just "Lego assemble" pieces of different cars from their already up and running (and cheap) production lines... Just like McLaren did with their W1.
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People hate it because it is as silent as a 3 cylinder 100 HP daily driver.
And they are right. Nobody wants this in a sports, or even more Hyper Car!
It's not that ugly... but with no sound, it's just boring. It might perform better, but it doesn't have "soul".
Personally, there are other Ferraris you can buy that are a bit more of a show piece. It’s pretty obvious this is a no-compromises road legal track car. It’s meant to be the fastest machine they can sell you. If that means it’s ugly or quiet, so be it. I might prefer to have something else but this car is obviously designed for the 799 people who want it to be impossible to get passed on a track day
You have 12Cilindri for sound.
It's the black part at the front. Ugly as sin.
its much louder than my 3 cylinder daily driver GR yaris
@@realitities2 *799 and then some
Whoa. Hold up. Stop. V6 or not, at no point is putting a race engine in a road car considered "cost cutting". Race engines cost more at every stage, from development to production, not to mention the further cost of detuning the engine and selection of parts still needed to handle the engine's power while maintaining the streetability and comfort of said road car. You could say a lot of things about Ferrari and the F80 but saying they were cheaping out here is ridiculous.
exactly my thought. i also like the idea of having a le mans hypercar engined streetcar. the f40 had a 2.9 twinturbo v8, so its not like they broke with tradition.
correct
100%
It is cost cutting. The R&D is already done for the V6. It was already paid for. It is the same cost cutting VAG does. They reuse their same engine over and over again throughout different car models. It is a cost savings method.
You are absolutely right. The AMG one has a 1.6lt V6 as well. Nobody complained
Non of the 799 contracts were canceled . So why would Ferrari give a shit on all this comments ?
It's an investment, everyone knows this!
If you are allocated end turn it down, they don't call you next time, that's why!
Most Ferrari customers are not buying multi-million dollar Ferraris. Public perception is the biggest reason people buy Ferraris, it shows success in a cool and beautiful package.
If public perception gets worse and the cars are no longer cool or beautiful, no one will dream of buying a Ferrari anymore and in the long run this can and probably will ruin them.
@@costafilh0 Ruining a company with Ferrari's legacy will take more than one halo model misstep. It will hurt them, yes, but Ferrari has come back from disappointing models in the past; it will do so again. It's very unfortunate the company allowed its engineers to overrule its designers and released something this awful.
@@jamesaron1967 You're forgetting that the next Halo car will be an EV. There's no turning back. This is it. This was their last chance, and they missed it.
Good for the lucky SP3 owners. And those who couldn't afford or get an allocation are getting the 12C.
The legacy is dead. And not just for Ferrari, but for most manufacturers.
Lamborghini is all hybrids and EVs now, but at least they're still making the V12, I guess.
personally, I think it is a beautiful car.
The disappointment for me is the engine.
They said the same thing about the F50, today that car is an icon.
Btw, the only thing that bothers me is that they used a V6 in a hypercar and a V12 in an SUV. A really stupid choice for me
They said F50 sounded like air? They said it doesn't have enough cylinders? I missed those points.
The F50 is still ugly after all this time
@xpusostomos no it's not.
@@betterbeavailable Fun fact they had a hard time selling the F50 as it was seen as a downgrade from the F40.
@22Epic No question F40 is the epitome of F-series but one cannot argue the power of NA V12 engine that made it faster and sounding even better.
Hmmm…let me get this straight. You’re saying that critics have “flipped,” but then all of the well known publications are celebrating the car while lesser known publications are bashing it? I’d understand if Car & Driver/Motor Trend flipped AFTER a test, but to say they all changed their minds based off of an opinion that lower tier publications have had all along is straight CAP!
@@HowToSpec , I won’t deny what you’re saying may be true. What I AM saying is that if you pay attention to the video, you notice how C&A, MT, etc. all have praise for the car, but Car Buzz…which has been known to be VERY wrong is bashing it. Dude made it sound like C&A, MT and all of the well known journalists suddenly changed their minds.
He also quotes random social media posts as valid collectors; I bet almost all of them only collect garbage or drive a Civic😂
@@HowToSpec again, my argument isn’t with someone who has an opinion about the car. I can care less to be honest as I’ll probably never see one. But I do agree that the car should have at least have a TTV8 or a V10; to be fair, the F40 has a TTV8 as did the 288GTO which were also halo cars as you call them.
I’m speaking to someone presenting stuff as fact just to get likes or viewership. Some journalists like the car and others don’t. I don’t see a change of minds anywhere and I bet C&D/MT’s support for the car will only change for the better once they drive it.
They flip and they'll never review another Ferrari. It's pretty simple.
@ …oh I KNOW how the game is played brother. But still, this video is all cap😂
Car and Driver/MT tend to stick to numbers, smaller outlets get to be more opinionated because they don't have to worry about falling out of Ferrari's good graces due to their words.
ferrari's new flagshit: The Ferrari Civic
Civic that you can't afford to buy
It is a Fivic :)
Lol
Didn’t they hate the F50, Enzo and LaFerrari? Let’s revisit this sentiment 10 years from now
No. Those cars were loved instantly.
@@TheGreatness-gg1jx lol.... They hated on all of them, especially the Enzo.
They hated on all of them, especially the Enzo.
@@TheGreatness-gg1jx the f50 was very hated, i don't know if the other two were too but i wouldn't doubt it
Even the SP3 daytona was hated, people were saying it looked like onion slices initially
it was a bad idea to leave pininfarina...
Exactly! 👍
get over it . i love Ferrari design language
@@Richy-Nguyen0991 yeah Bro! they look like ... everything... just like bugatti whitch is also ugly...
@Richy-Nguyen0991 Language, lol. They're speaking gibberish and you love it.
Thought Ferrari said years ago they were not interested in clean emission rubbish they make racing cars this is a travesty.
I like the way it looks. It not the first time everyone hated a Ferrari and then fell in love with it years later.
looks better than a f50 fight me idc
I agree, this Ferrari will be hated until like 10 years in the future because of nostalgia
@@b3f103 The F40 looks better anyways.
not bc ppl will like it, bc ppl get use to it.
@@notchit3542what is the difference? (People for example at first dont like new foods but they get "used to it")
The problem with the design is the black strip. A design cue like that could only be brought back once, not for two models. Each Ferrari had it's own character until now.
And it's not just that
There's a lot more wrong than that. What about those nostrils? OMG.
Keep looking.
I think it looks FANTASTIC. It looks like... a real car. Gives me warm nostalgic vibes of the F-40 and other supercars from the 80's and 90's before everything looked like a spaceship. I love it.
The sound... not so much.
Wait, till the full boost comes up, and when the catalistic crap is thrown out.
As a life-long Ferrari fan I just gotta say they've lost their way. Their cars are getting worse and worse for the past 10 years, their interiors are absolutely awful with all the touch controls, their recent cars will forever be "from their time". Also nothing with a Ferrari badge should have less than 8 cylinders, Enzo said it 60 years ago!
I'm not fond of many of the modern on steering wheel controls either, but by worse you mean sound and looks?
....try to look at the performance instead... The cars keep getting faster and more dynamically efficient.
What Enzo knew then, doesn't stand against modern technology.
A V12 sounds better but doesn't perform better than a smaller, lighter turbo charged unit. Check the Lambo Revuelto, they've opted for a naturally aspirated V12 with the hybrid system. It's an exceptionally fast car - but not as much as a SF90 with a smaller engine capacity V8 twin turbo.
...and The SF90 is definitely slower than the F80 with a V6.
I'm ok with keeping performance the top goal, specially with limited edition hiper cars.
tf you talking about. their first popular road vehicle was a V6 lol
It would be a little embarrassing being in your ferrari, mc20, or ford GT and your excited shotgun rider asks what kind of engine and you have to explain the v6. I struggled with this when I had a v6 Pontiac G8.
@ Displacememt or number of cylinders is how engines weee measured 40 + years ago. Forced induction and now also electricity changed that.
It is still that way but only for people that know little about ICE.
Maybe a bit more for Americans since they don’t have turbos on many of their vehicles. In Europe it’s precisely the opposite, almost every vehicle has a turbo …and about half of the ones being currently sold, have electricity boost or are pure EV.
@rellotsscrewdriver8996 um excuse me? he literally made a separate Dino brand because the V6 wasn't worthy of wearing the prancing horse, you have no idea what you're talking about
Sound is everything!
IDGAF because I can't even afford it.
Same :)
$3m starting price? That's Bugatti and Koenigsegg money, for an ugly Ferrari with a V6? Madness..
At last somebody said it !!!
Still twice as many cylinders than a Koenigsegg with a 3 cylinders engine.
@@22EpicNone of the Koenigsegg are coming with a 3 cylinder as everyone opted for the HV8 version of the Gemera.
For the fastest ferrari ever created u mean?
@@22Epic 😂 atleast it has 1700 hp. But koenigsegg stopped free valve engine to production. Now gemera has tt v8 2300 hp at 7800 rpm. Price start at 2.2 mil
The scaglieti is great, Clarkson loved it and said it was the best ferraris in the lineup when it came out. It is today loved by many enthusiasts and iconic.
Nothing wrong with a V6 because many flagship supercars are heading this direction.
•AMG One - 1.6L V6
•Ford GT - 3.5L V6
•Maserati MC - V6
•Jaguar XJ220 - V6
•Nissan GT-R - 3.8L V6
•Acura NSX Type-S - 3.5L V6
•Porsche 911 - H6
Great, but a flagship Ferrari isn't known for a v6. Minimum a v8.
@@rkwjunior2298 why though? I thought flagships were supposed to be performance first.
@@rkwjunior2298 Not necessarily. You are forgetting one thing in particular: Some engine bays are not made to suit big engines like a V8, V10, V12, or V16. Ferrari cares about one thing: money, and as long as it's their way of business, it's going to stay that way whether others like it or not.
No one cares. This is a Ferrari.
@nightwingzero8905 A 4 liter v8 is small. The f40 was a very small platform.
The Ferrari F80 is essentially a Le Mans car for the road, which is why it features a Ferrari Le Mans engine. This ensures that both buyers and drivers experience the essence of a true Le Mans race car. All major motoring governing bodies now impose strict regulations on engine limits and greener race engine technology. Since the F80 serves as a halo model inspired by Ferrari’s Le Mans heritage, it naturally reflects these advancements in engineering. If you're looking for a car built exclusively for raw speed, sound, and performance without compromise, a Bugatti or Lamborghini might be a better choice. However, the F80 is a road car designed in the spirit of a Le Mans racer, blending cutting-edge performance with real-world usability. I don't like the shape personally, but people don't get it.
Ferraris were known for 2 things back in the day: beautiful design and sounding amazing. This car has neither. The top tier ferrari has to look good and have a v12. No exceptions.
Not true, the f40 at a point was ferraris super sport flagship car and never had a v12
Considering none of the orders for the f80 are cancelled, only people who can't afford the car are mad
Yeah definitely.
Always loved the 612. It's 1000 times cooler than the F80.
me too.
its gone from zero to hero now in my view - the personal sighting of it in person makes huge difference its awesome photos don't do it justice at all.
It took me only 72 seconds to say it was ugly and boring. Ferrari seems to have lost it's mojo.
2:03 that's my comment!!
Lets be honest. Why would they waste time putting all that engine in a car thats just going to sit in some rich guys garage for decades on end. 🤷♂️
At $4 million a copy, with 799 copies, it is no longer limited edition, a 3L V-6 engine from 296, jell no.
That's wrong what that RUclipsr was saying because Ferrari didnt always have the same coach builders. The design language of Ferrari has changed dramatically over it's last 80 years. That was just a generalized opinion of certain Ferraris because the sP3 doesn't look anything like the F-40 or F-50. So bad example if you ask me. That's, his opinion & once you truly look at all the past Ferraris, you will see that.
Is this guy ai
Ikr 😂
The death of Ferrari... To say this is ugly is a compliment.
Ferrari died a long time ago, when the f430 was replaced with the 458, and the body was cremated when they canned pininfarina
The Mclaren is a better looking than the Ferrari
The F80 accelerates noticeably faster then the LaFerrari.
And?
@@Nickoboss29 So the F80 is better than the LaFerrari in one important metric.
Ferrari needs Pininfarina back. The whole lineup is extremely lacking. The 296 GTB for example is just ugly. The last good looking Ferrari's are the 812, 488 Pista, F8 Tributo and the 512 TDF. Ferrari's current design language is lazy and full of dumb design cues like the randomly placed black panels that serve no purpose.
6:15 You hit the nail on the head there! It looks like a Lego Version of the real car! 😂
The comments defending this overpriced V-6 Fiat kit car stink of paid bots, paid by a manufacturer that seems to have joined the fad of kids these days neutering themselves.
I don't know why they couldn't have put a V12 in it, emissions aren't effected by the number of cylinders a engine has. Clearly they can and do make V12s that are emissions compliant.
@Allhailme121 AMG One has a V6. So why can't Ferrari do it to show the motorsport link between their road cars and F1 and the 499P Hypercar? That V6 engine in the F80 is a two time Le Mans 24h winner.
@@horsepower523because AMG 1 is a failure just like XJ220.
@@GF-mf7ml failure? is this joke? Telling a car that hold the fastest road legal car in the nurburgring a failure?
@@horsepower523Ferrari doesn't build enough of these type cars to justify a V6 when your customer base is so used to more cylinders. Can it be fast yes. I had a 600hp GMC Syclone that basically beat everything on the street 25 years ago. It sounded like a V6 though.
@@jostrander71You missed the point, Ferrari's high end car is to showcase their prowess in racing technology, their v12 and v8 isn't powering any of their current race cars, so that's why the v6. Their icona cars will have a v12 and will be produced in limited quantities.
Who approved that stupid design anyway??
Ferrari got worse, for the best part, after they switched from classic Pininfarina to inner Style dpt. Under Manzoni. As simple as that.
Go check back to the 50s who designed almost any Ferrari up to the 458
Ferrari has been in the bad books for years now. With their reliability and how they treat people I don't know how they have any business at all
do you have any examples of recent ferraris being unrealiable?
All of em
F80 in comparison with LaFerrari looks like the F80 is from the ‘80 ..and the V6 in the car for several million $🪦🙈 Ferrari lost its passion !!!
i liked the f80 because I expected the worst from the prototype, and its perception was definitely influenced by the mclaren - a truly ugly, misshapen supercar. to me the sp3 looks like some kind of insect.
i think in this class the sound is not so important, the main thing here is the lap time.
and maybe v12 will be in fxx version.
yes f80 looks like cool lego kit, so what? overall Im satisfied
the front end is so bad the top and bottom halves have no business being together
Ferrari has been putting out garbage since after the F8.
Sorry, La Ferrari does not look better than the F80. They're both ugly but La Ferrari is worse.
I'm not too fond of Ferrari that much, but these people really need to stop bitching.
They’re not worng 😂
@@VinceroAlpha Apparently they don't understand much about cars.
Oh no! People have an opinion about a car!! How terrible!!
Literally who cares? lol
@@clicheguevara5282 literally a lot of people apparently
It’s very hard for me to accept that the top end Ferrari is a ttv6. I know the 288 GTO & F40 have a ttv8, and are universally loved. But, for me, a Ferrari needs a screaming v12 to be a halo car
Yes, it's about exclusivity
Not how a Ferrari should sound, sorry, very sad
The F80 just reminds me of an episode of Tom and Jerry when Tom was replaced by a robot cat
F40 has a V8 numb nuts. The SP3 is just a La Ferrari that they added a bunch of ugly crap on the front and back. Looks super tacky and just an ugly La Ferrari. The F.80 looks pretty awesome and it's damn cool it has the race car engine. Just like how Ford GT put the v6 engine in that was in the race car. I'm so happy they didn't make the SP3 the successor to the La Ferrari! They got it right, and that F.80 is a driving beast!
@@LibertyOrDeath-ms5rf
Twin-turboed V-8s. Don't leave out the good shit.
@davel696969 I was saying that because the clown in the video was saying the flagship cars have v12's and that's why it was bad the F80 had v6. I have no problem with anything on the F40, just showing this guy he's tarded...
Testarossa was a flat 12. And that race engine in this is actually impressive. Most people's favorite race car (mp4/4) was a twin turbo v6 so this idea that v6 = shit is dumb af
Lazy design
The SP3 is the true replacement.
This Ferrari is for "modern audiences"
ZR-1 is either going to come close or exceed the F80 with what Ferrari should have done. Where the ZR-1 had a twin turbocharged 5.5 DOHC V8 the Ferrari could have done it with twin variable geometry turbos on the 6.5 V12. That configuration could easily exceed anywhere from 1400-2000 whp. None of the gimmicks and an engine configuration. The hybrid system in several years will be so archaic and all the proprietary technologies unbelievable expensive or not possible at all.
This car is beyond hideous. Go back to Pininfarina. Ferrari has became a joke. They care more about their brand than making sexy and fast cars. I have much more respect for Porsche now. The kids aren't salivating over Ferrari's anymore. They're looking at 2JZ's, S58's, Voodo, and so forth.
In Italy we say that he who loves despises and he who hates buys ...❤from Italy.
From front view. It just like the out of production Chevrolet Camero. LoL.
i thought the revuelto was overpriced, but now it looks like a bargain at 650k vs 3mil+ for the w1 and f80
Bro is comparing the Revuelto, a glorified Aventador that keeps getting beaten by 5yo SF90s, to hypercars that could be game changers in terms of on track performance.
No one pays that amount of money for the looks alone.
@ if you don’t care about the engine and want something for the track, these things aren’t going to beat the McMurtry Spierling, Porsche 919 evo or rimac Nevera R (the non-R version has already made the SF90 look like a joke), which are 2-3 years old, that ‘game-changing’ track performance threshold has been passed long ago. So instead of worrying which car is faster on track, i’d rather have the sound of an NA v12 with a gintani exhaust over a turbo v6 which is quieter than the sound of the wind passing by.
@jikau7374 Oh so now we are comparing not road legal/barely road legal track cars, with road legal hypercars? What's next, comparing the Chiron with specialized dragsters?
The Nevera is the fastest in a straight line, on track can't even beat the 918 Spyder on the Nordshcleife. What are you on about, apart from lying and over exaggerating stuff to reinforce your point?
It's funny that you can't even separate road legal from not road legal, and track performance from drag racing.
It's fine if you don't like the car. Just don't pretend the car was supposed to appeal to you, and that the brand's vision is less important than your own.
@@dcarvalho6144 The Revuelto is barely slower despite having for all intense and purposes the same amount of power (50 horsepower more at these levels is meaningless), and weighs 500 pounds MORE. If you don't see how impressive that is you are a monumental moron.
Calling it a "Cost saving measure" to put a Le Mans engine in a road car is batshit insane
It sounds to me like an aftermarket exhaust would make some sexy noises. The clip of the F80 in the rain from behind, when the car gets a little loose, was excellent, just heavily muffled. This car has the turbos, multiple catalysts, and probably an active muffler that is most likely in quiet mode for these track runs. I do agree that the car has been made for aero and maximum DF, and its styling took the backseat here. But I don't believe the car will be thoroughly admonished for its looks, nor its engine. The price is in Bugatti/Koenigsegg territory, and that's the real disturbing point.
As for styling, I feel it's not only appropriate, but also will become highly considered in years to come. I have been watching the company (and I haven't liked much of the Ferrari politics and cronyism) since 1988. I was at the 1990 NY auto show at the Javits center, and since I personally knew the folks at Miller Motorcars, they gave myself and a friend VIP passes that let us (and I mean only us!!) up on the display to sit in the very first F40 American spec car. It was an honor! Since then, the F50 was ugly at first to me. But the design became so impressive when you sit and stare at the car with no preconceived feelings to ruin the experience. In the same way, the Enzo was also hideous to me on release, but I became admiring within a few months.
The F80 also hit me wrong at first. And now I can see the beauty in the design, but I have changed my feelings this time faster than the previous examples.
As for the driveline... It's not a factor of how many cylinders a car has that makes it special. Some of the rarest and most expensive Ferrari contain inline 4 cylinder engines. Bodies for these ancient Mondial models can fetch millions of dollars. On the Ferrari website, this is what they say about the car: "Powered by a 2000 cc four-cylinder engine, this model acquitted itself very honourably indeed in a whole host of races"
Then there are the Dino V6 cars. Those, even though not badged Ferrari, were indeed made in the Ferrari factory. Although the engine was a V6 and also the same engine was offered in Fiat models, the Dino V6 is known for its glorious sound. Those cars are now pretty much unobtanium. They fetch handsome sums likely to exceed the price of an incredibly posh home.
So why is everybody butt-hurt about the F80? I think too many journalists and critics just expect crazier and crazier designs, but then when a car like this OVER delivers on crazy, they rant and insult the design. These same people would also enjoy 24 cylinders and 6 turbos, and expect nothing less or else your offering isn't up to par.
Also, I haven't heard anyone complain about paying well over a million for a early 70's Carrera RS 2.7? Yes far sexier than the F80 in every way, but the F80 is the mean look. Not meant to be sexy, more of a warning to pedestrians to get out of the way RIGHT NOW. It does this brilliantly. The overall ethic of the car reminds me of the Corvette C8 bodies, as far as the mean look goes. I wouldn't normally compare the two cars, but they both look mean- not pretty. Someone who grew up appreciating the old C3 corvette body lines might indeed be repulsed by the C8. Same goes for people expecting some new F40 retro-looking new hypercar who sees the F80.
The real crux of the problem is the people who can afford these cars have driven the prices out of control based only on exclusivity and the boys club mentality of the company at large. All the high end brands are suffering this same fate of being controlled by, and fully in the pockets of, the wealthy mega-rich people who don't want YOU to have one.
The Ferrari 288 GTO was once an affordable car (still expensive, but not prohibitively so) at 78,000 at launch and 84,000 USD the end of production. They skyrocketed in value over just a few years and by 1990 were trading for 1M USD all day long. This market only lasted for a couple years, and rapidly crashed once the few buyers willing to pay up at that price were satisfied. Soon many people who just bought the cars as investments were unable to purchase the F40, for "speculation" on the markets, as Ferrari realized they missed out on selling these cars at 200,000 USD. The company punished its customers by artificially raising the prices of, and exclusivity to, its new buyers. They pushed the F40 out to 300k USD, and yet the 288 GTO was five times rarer and more special, and also had more creature comforts and time spent on it. This cemented the price inflation of all exotic cars at the top of their respective ranges. The McLaren F1 is a great example. It was the most expensive car of it's time, and now worth 20-30M USD. It has a special version of a BMW V12, but it's still based on a relatively common engine.
The F80 has a very unusual V6 at 120 degrees, almost laid flat. The 296 shares similarities and should serve as an example of the sound that may lurk under the F80s muffled stock exhaust. Time will tell. But the latest Ford GT does indeed fetch quite a bit of coin and it has a V6 "Ecoboost" engine. Should we all just say it sucks and forget that it is a modern poster car worthy of its heritage just because times have changed? At least the F80 still has a fuel burner. If it was full electric, I wouldn't even bother writing this tome. THAT would NOT be a Ferrari. It would be an appliance.
Thats how I see it too
The contingency with F80 will be temporary at the moment. Since initial time of release, i can understand. Also which reminded me at a certain point i was once never into the 458 Italia or the LaFerrari initially. But as I got older i started to see the style of it and pretty much understand their incentive. Like V12 engines being more sought after, like how many car enthusiasts expect crazier designs and such. Sometimes variety of V6 or V8 can stand out for different models. I personally think the F80, is supposedly trying to stand out. Like something fresh out of an ideation from Ferrari. I’m not too hyper focused on looks but on the perceptive spectrum, I can see the direction with Ferrari. Which i can compare to other car brands as of 2024.
It looks like someone made a Lego model of a McLaren Senna from memory.
I said it last week when I first saw the F80 that in my opinion, it was f……g ugly. How did they go from the beautiful designs of the 250 GT, 512BB, the 288 GTO, the F40, F50, the F355, the 458, F488, the Enzo, the LaFerrari to the F8 Tributo, the so so SF90, the 296 and all the way to the bottom dwelling F80. I even disliked the elongated front ends of the Roma, F8 Tributo and the SF90.
Meanwhile, Lamborghini is getting all the love and accolades from winning beautiful design after another. As a long time BMW and Porsche owner, even BMW has joined the ranks of ugly designs with exception of the 3 series, 8 series and perhaps the X3, X4 and X5.
No, I didn't like it, they ruined the design, and the black stripe is a complete ugliness, as if they covered the scratches with tape
The car is horrendous. Full stop.
So don't buy it.
I'm sick of people saying you are hating because you can't afford one or you are nitpicking. If you don't like the car you don't like it. I don't like it. Nor can I afford one. Plus it's a v6. You can't be serious to ask the people that can afford it to buy a
V6 for that much money.
No it's not what are you smoking on?
@therealsyxx who cares how many cylinders you have? The original viper has a v10 but it can't keep up with some v8s.
@wildsword6856 That's his opinion, brother. It's not wrong or right. It belongs to him. Obviously, you feel otherwise. That's the beauty in people. Different outlooks tastes and likes.
Testarossa came out: it's a lorry
F40 came out: it's ugly
Buy a 296 instead
296 looks way better
It has the same engine
296 is what a Ferrari should look like
Well that’s it, I’m not buying one!
You want to compare it to the le mans hypercar seeing how it's supposed to be a road going version of that.
^see, Mr. D gets it.^ 🤙
Something which will kill the *already-oversaturated* automotive journalist/pundit space is how unbearably cynical virtually all content is these days. I'm a lifelong car enthusiast and take most of the year off from zooming in on this stuff because being negative appears to be the sole goal at this point.
This video has triggered a lot of Ferrari cheerleaders..😂
I have met no one who hates the 612. And the Mondial T coupe is on of the best sounding, most fun and RAREST Ferraris in America. I do agree the new car is lame and not attractive. Ferrari desperately needs to bring back Pininfarina.
This is the same hate the Lamborghini temerario had when it came out because it had a v8 😂😂😂
Because Lamborghini discontinued their V10 while Ferrari didn't discontinue their V12. Also, the powertrain in the Temerario isn't going to have the most performance among all Lamborghini cars, so the change wasn't justified. Meanwhile the flagship Ferrari is about racing technology and performance, the v6 is the correct engine for this reason.
Someone doesn't understand the difference between the two situations. 😂😂😂
@@steven_taylor_U are clearly a dumbass Ferrari didn't even go to a V8 they went straight to v6 for the 296 and this ugly hypercar the only Ferrari that has a V8 is the Roma and sf90
Speaking about not having the "most performance" Lamborghini temerario uses the V8 from the lmdh Lamborghini hypercar but it revs to 10k RPM get ur fact right the la Ferrari is way better than this LEGO of a car
@@NwosuChimaobi-gb7hq Correction, Temerario's v8 is based on the v8 in their lmdh car, it's not the exact same engine while in the F80's case, the v6 is straight from Ferrari's LeMans winning hypercar. Ferrari won LeMans with the v6, Lamborghini was just there to make the lineup with their v8. Also, the v8 won't have the most performance otherwise the revuelto would get cannibalized. So keep dreaming about the poser car matching F80's performance. Talk about getting facts right, how about you stop ignoring facts!
@@NwosuChimaobi-gb7hq U blackass have no idea why Ferrari went with a V6 instead of their V8. The V6 is their best performing engine, it also powers their LMH which won LeMans, this car looks like a hypercar, it's purposeful, it's not your average poser car.
2:58 I love it 🎉🐎 10:09 for not interrupt the sleep off old Florida people 😂😂😂
This just boosted the price of LaFerrari,Enzo,F40,F50 even more. Imo
The 612 scag, especially the manual, should not be on that list. The hate it gets is undeserved
I don't hate Ferrari, i don't have money to buy Ferrari but to be honest, even if i had the money, i wouldn't buy it any of their cars. I prefer cars that are durable, comfortable , safe, reliable , i don't want to feel every bump in the road and make a sound like a fighter jet and pay a ton of money for that. Not my type. I don't see the point of these cars, sorry. The only reason anyone would ever buy these things is to show others that they are rich. LOL. Give me 30 billion i couldn't care less about what others think. I would still drive a brand new Lexus, a car that is made to be driven not made to be kept in a garage as a trophy. So yeah, sorry, some of us don't like Ferrari because we like comfort , safety and blending in. But you go ahead and buy your street rocket it doesn't impress me at all. Ferraris are like planes, private jets. Take me where i need and show everyone how cool i am but it costs me 1 million a year just to keep that thing in working condition lol. These cars aren't made to last, they are only made to last one day of racing.
If the CEO said i made this ferrari because my son designed it
And i wanted to creat a real one
It would have been more special
Blame it on the restrictions, not Ferrari. Why didn’t the internet “experts” stopped the lawmakers when they were making stricter rules on emissions, noise, etc.
Lamborghini Aston Martin produce v12 supercars no restictions stopped them from building a v12 supercar!
@@jefflivermore2648 Bugatti even made a V16
Lexus still making a 5.0 NA v8.
@@jefflivermore2648If you're talking about producing cars with a v12, then Ferrari does that too.
They literally just released a new V12 car, and still producing Purosangue etc lol?
the design is a failure, I don't like it at all, the F50 was 1000 times better!
They should've stepped into twin turbo V10 territory and used the F40 as design influence while admiring the strength and beauty of the animal on the badge.
The Ferrari F80 looks like Ferrari's attempt at making a track-based version of the current gen Lamborghini Countach while still making it legally distinct *enough* for it to be considered their own car... a.k.a. putting Ferrari badging on it.
The 296 shocked everyone with how much they enjoyed that v6 Hybrid. Something is off here. This is on paper an upgrade over a car people love in the 296. I will wait until more comes out. It can’t sound this muted lol something is up
re: "It can’t sound this muted lol something is up". well you're in the AGE OF EV's so yes it can sound this muted. what Ferrari are giving you in the F80 is EV Performance but WITHOUT the EV weight penalty. many people don't realize it but despite it's use of a CF monocoque a Rimac Nevera weighs over 5000lbs (same as a Porsche Taycan) whereas this new F80 is rumored to be only 3700lbs, so that's a massive 1300lb difference.
@@phillyphil1513 I mean I understand but naw man lol the 296 is using this same hybrid basically but sounds amazing for a V6 and is fun to drive and great performer
This is supposed to be a notch up or 5 or 10 from that lol you can’t have this car not AT LEAST sound like that one with way more power
@@UrbanBDKNY re: "sounds amazing for a V6". well see there are a great many (V8 snobs mostly) who would likely take issue with that, and i can't say that they're wrong or they're right, mind you this coming from a guy who's track car is a "poverty spec" LT1 Camaro...
however being a true gear head (and this is just me) i personally have no problem with 6's since being around Porsches, BMW's, the related Mk5 Supra, R35's, 2JZ's, etc i know what they're capable of. heck i can even appreciate K24's and Rotaries and as if to make the point, i'll see (and hear) ALL of these configurations tuned to the ABSOLUTE MAX come next weekend at the annual Haltech Finals (Imports Vs. Domestics) down in Maryland at MIR.
re: "This is supposed to be a notch up or 5 or 10 from that lol". well can you honestly say looking at the F80 (parked next to a 296) that the latest Ferrari Hypercar is not "5 to 10 notches" ABOVE a GTB from a visual perspective...? i mean the F80 looks like a friggin' SPACE SHIP (a bad ass space ship).
re: "you can’t have this car not AT LEAST sound like that one with way more power..." oh but you CAN have exactly that (and you will). again, it's very important we pay attention to the calendar on the wall and recognize (good or bad) that we're now DEEP into the era of EV's, Hybrids, and electrification where vehicles like the Tesla Tri-Motor Plaid, Dual-Motor Porsche Taycan, and Quad-Motor Rimac Nevera make absolutely ZERO SOUND while "crushing" everybody on Torque and HP, the existence of these vehicles goes some way at explaining WHY the F80 is now itself a "Tri-motor" electrically speaking.
that being said, something else important to recognize is how the LaFerrari, McLaren P1, Porsche 918, and Gen-2 Acura NSX are all now basically 10 year old designs (2013). these are the Gen-1 Performance Hybrids originally inspired by F1's introduction of KERS a full 3 years earlier for the 2009 season...
okay now fast-forward to the year 2024 and now we have the 7x Champs Mercedes AMG One, McLaren's W1, Lambo Revuelto, and the Bug' Tourbillion soon joining the party, but out of these 4 cars the only TRUE RIVAL to the F80 is the Mercedes (which stands to reason since the Germans are the ones to most recently break Ferrari's dominance in F1).
@@phillyphil1513 we ll know more soon. If it does end up sounding worse than the 296 the car will likely not be remembered in history
The thing is that this is a halo car and as such it should be about exclusivity, it should've had a V12 or at least a V8
…Enzo Ferrari used to say “to make them beautiful it costs exactly the same than to make them ugly ! …so I always decided to make my cars looking beautiful! Therefore the problem is the new Managment as well as why Ferrari is not winning in F1 races there is no more passion in the Managment 😢
People talk a lot of sh*t when they should just stick to silence. We live in an era of entitlement and hubris, where everyone thinks they have the right to express an "opinion", without realizing it stems from ignorance most of the times. Considering the F80 "the worst Ferrari ever" just proves it. In terms of absolute performances, it unquestionably is the peak (at least from the Brand). Please, less catchphrase titles as well...
I AGREE....!!!
You also Express a opinion here. Glad we still can !
The whole point of a halo car having a V12 is about exclusivity, a V6 that you can find even in the lesser 296 isn't.
It's like Mclaren and Ferrari had an agreement that their new car to look like ricers cars.
I'm sorry but I had to dislike your video for two reasons. 1: I think you try referencing The Big Five but forgot to mention the F40 and why Testarossa? Maybe you meant the 288 GTO? 2 Putting the Le Man engine in the F80 is not for cost saving, that's literally the whole point of this kind of car!
Great video! Please tell what kind of music is used in the video, it gives the content even more drive 🔥🔥🔥
Oh, I found, this is Marcos H. Bolanos - Eye On the Prize
W1 and F80 both uninspiring looks, engine wise.
All new mclarens are essentially the same car
@@randomchannel323 nope😂
LMAO
It doesn’t matter. I’ve worked at a Ferrari dealership for 40 years. We could deliver twice our allocation. The true buyers don’t care.
F80 is a modern F40, people will understand it better once its out on the road
Nah, F40 was nuts when released, F80 viewed front looks like a generic model sports car from some video game that doesn't want to pay any license fees.
@@ConanOG Nuts fast, not styling wise. It was quite tame compared to competition, Countach
@@dude2884 The F40 was absolutely not tame styling wise. Its Iconic wing and open fenders were things only associated with race cars at the time.
@@ConanOG a generic sports car that happens to look like a modern Group C car? Yeah, no, the F80, even if you don't like it, doesn't look anything like a generic sports car. It looks quite unique actually.
@@lIllIlllIlIllIlllIlIllIlllIl yes its was tame, as i said lamborghini was on a different planet design wise. And i can say F80 looks like 499P also.
at first I was very skeptical about how this car looks, but now, after some time, I realize how futuristic and amazing this car is. it suddenly makes all previous supercars look extremely outdated.
people are mad but all I see is that all 799 copies are already sold 🤣💀
Why wouldn't 799 be sold in a world of 8 billion people
@@Paradox81818 For starters, you should know that Ferrari wasn't selling this car to just about anyone, they were selecting only their loyal customers.
Nobody is "mad". LMFAO People just have opinions. Deal with it.
You Ferrari fanboys are taking this _much_ too seriously.
@@clicheguevara5282 Opinions are alright but some saying that the f80 is a failure without giving any evidence to suggest that is just baseless!
Most of them by speculators
I'm not a Ferrari guy, but People who hate the 400 don't know shit about cars.
Who is commenting and really care about a car they can't afford or don't want. Some people today are just weird.💯
Buy a 12Cilindri if you must. I love the F80.
I don't know much about the drive train. But looks wise, I think it looks really nice. High up shots from different angles it really has a nice shape.
We as a car community have put so much unfounded premium on cylinder count and out-of-car noise. When you're sitting in a car with a race grade motor, you WILL hear it loud and clear. It's quiet on the outside more than likely to meet noise regulations no matter where a potential owner wants to drive it. And frankly I think this is a concession that we as a community need to learn to accept and appreciate. It's all about the DRIVER. We focus so much on how many cylinders a car has or how loud it is when we stand next to it that we often don't even talk about how fun driving such a performance focused car can be. We as a community don't put enough emphasis on what actually matters in a performance vehicle, that being, THE PERFORMANCE. We give up on any and every car that isn't loud as shit or doesn't have a V8 or 12 unless it's actively breaking a record of some kind. And even then we hardly acknowledge it before going back to drooling over a V12 that has worse performance than some V6 motors.
We love to call ourselves car enthusiasts and then disregard a car that is built for THE DRIVER and values said driver and the performance of the vehicle above all else just because it isn't obnoxiously loud. Not everyone enjoys our hobby. We actively choose to disrespect that and then have the audacity to be surprised when regulators make it hard to enjoy this hobby freely. Whether or not a car looks good or bad is 100% personal taste. I personally really like how the F80 looks. It's clean, simple, and visibly built to be a track toy. It has a Le Mans winning power unit ffs. We're seriously complaining about a motor that has won one of the most prestigious races in the world just because it isn't loud. That's fucking ridiculous. It's made to go fast. You'll hear it when the only thing separating you from it is a sheet of carbon, some weather proofing, and MAYBE 3 feet (probably closer to 1.5-2).
It's not SUPPOSED to be loud. It's not SUPPOSED to be this flashy display. It's a rich dude's track toy. The driver and their experience is the only thing that matters with this car, and they're not hiding that AT ALL. This is a VERY in-your-face display of "fuck you, this car is about ME" and frankly, I think we more cars in this vein.
I don't like Ferrari. I think they're a dog shit company with some of the worst practices in the industry. BUT, I have a lot of respect for such the massive middle finger that this car is. They're not being cheeky or coy with this car. ESPECIALLY with the price tag of 3.1 MILLION dollars. This is a car for their most loyal customers, and nobody else. I may not like Ferrari, but I can respect the F80. And I think we all should.
You forgot the 348 0:16
If nobody wants it, I offer myself for taking care of one. 400s and 612s are also welcome.
Seriously people , stick to Netflix these things are beyond your vision
It's not JUST that it's a bad design (boring, uncharacteristic, detached from Ferrari history, punch in the eyes).... It also has lazy engineering (powertrain is scalped from the SF90 stradale and mixed with the 296 ice, chassis is scalped in part from the 499P and the SP3, and they just added active 3d printed suspension on top of it) and an incredibly tame sound (sounds like a fucking city daily).
This car is... Simply... Complete bollocks. It's garbage under almost every single aspect
PS: Since I'm Italian and I've heard the "Environmental impact"... I can very simply tell you, that's complete bollocks lol. The Italian govt has lobbied against EU regulations to protect its car history and heritage (one of the very few things they did right lol) and reached an agreement that can be boiled down to "Limited run, highly exclusive vehicles, with low production numbers (aka lambo, ferrari, maserati and similar) will be exempt from EU restrictive sound and emission regulations". So no... Ferrari did it because it costed less to them to just "Lego assemble" pieces of different cars from their already up and running (and cheap) production lines... Just like McLaren did with their W1.
Wait, hold up, wait a minute, people thought the F80 was good, all I hear is that it is terrible
Ferrari literally manufactures an SUV with better aesthetics and a far better sounding engine.