Imagine the whiplash the poor people in this universe got. getting conquered and then randomly either be given back to their original liege or some other realm that stretches from central Europe in a weird L-shape to their capital.
"Ohhh praise to the Emperor of HRE for sparing us from death" Few years later "Oooh praise the Sultan for saving us from evil Emperor" After unification "Oohh praise the Emperor of Kings, for uniting the Europe"
This is a great guide! I wasn't able to form russia before muscovy did it first, so I added russia to the HRE instead and got to where you are by around 1640. Made many mistakes in my run but learned a lot and was still able to follow along even as an intermediate player. Looking forward to the next videos in this series!
The important point was upgrading the great project, and the level 3 upgrade stayed. I did notice the building did not stay, but still got what I wanted out of the bankruptcy.
Man, getting some very nostalgic vibes with forming Russia and forcing your capital to the new world, even tho it has nothing to do with our friend the uh, Siberian Frontier
Interesting. I got almost identical results with a quite different approach. I allied Provence so that they would join as soon as they get threatened by France (within 10 years) I balkanized Bohemia instead of PU. And I also balkanized Ottomans and converted Beyliks to catholic and added to the empire. Didn’t do lvl 3 Prague. Did much less own vassals to keep AE down with the imerials, had to spam a lot of Expand Empires.
I do something like this too but I do it with Bohemia, I feel all these shenanigans are just too tedious, with bohemia you can do the same of this but with less problems thanks to 100% annexation cost of vassals and the Government reform to get PUs on absolutely everyone, I flip a couple times into some stuff like S&P, Netherlands for PU on England and Prussia for easy Gov efficiency and other stuff, end with being Russia and that's it, it's really easy and I do it in almost the same time as this one but is just way more relaxed, you can stay as a vassal swarm or just take it yourself, whatever float your boat
I don't understand how you're able to do this without getting the 'Distant War' debuff from Poland when declaring on France, and the same with trying to get aid from Castille against Burgundy. My allies just do not have any reasons to join the war despite having favours and high Diplo Rep. Also the day after I finish my war against Burgundy, they rival me. Seems super difficult to replicate this kind of play.
Honestly, use favours to get ‘trust’. It’s broken af, it can stop your allies becoming rivals, guarantee you the burg inheritance and give you reasons to go to war and will just come and help. Better than ‘prepare for war’ in favours section. Use ‘curry favours’ and have high opinion with target
Same with the war against burgundy too. Castille wont join because its too far, and instead of allying to aragon they allied to venice who is a monster. Its 5 years into the game so no time to curry for trust or even really prep war
I do not understand anything, but looks amazing! Could you / somebody list our step-by-step guide or explanation whats going on? I do not understand how you can manage all these economy issue, AE, and the most of all to keep Italian nations in the HRE while spending so many time of your diplos to fabricating claims or else....
economy issue, loans are only a number. AE, as long you and your allies are stronger than your coalition, they will not DOW. If you overpower the coalition (spend money into all possible mercs to push your army to extrem), your coalition will even disband. His AE on italy wasn't so high, he did only take venice as italian province, rest of the time, he taken non italien culture province, so his AE was lower on them, rest is pushing relationship to +150 to finish the event. With +100 relation pushing, +50 alliance, +50 imperial bestow, it is normally doable. That's why he didn't pick milan PU, to much AE in italy, and makes the diplomatic way of shadow empire far to difficulty.
Love your Guide and want to mix it with your newest Burgundy tag switch stategy! But my my question is.... what is the best sequence of tag switching in other countries to get the most benefits out of these? I want in my run high Admin Eff, CCR and also modifiers for culture conversion. I want to make an easy One Faith/One Culture run in iron mode... Do you have any advices for me? :-) I`m from Germany, so it would be nice, if the final country would germany, too. But i don`t want to mess things up, so maybe you can help me... :-) Thank you very much for your videos, keep up the good work!
Germany was my first world conquest, so they are certainly super solid. Though if you want the strongest mods you’ll need to form into the Roman Empire(Rome has ccr and culture conversation) But you could just stay Germany for fun. Sequence wise I would say. Sardina piedmont -> prussia -> England -> Germany -> Rome would be fairly solid. And you would be fine to not go rome.
@@Theplaymaker57 Thank you very much! So... First of all switch to France for the Burgundian Mission trick, Renovatio Imperii to form HRE, release and play as Burgundy and than Sardina and so on... okay ... now i know what i have to do!
Man, I hate it when people say not to dev the gold mine up past 10 dip dev. That's true if what you want from it is consistent output throughout the whole game, but I really don't think that's a good use for gold. Dev it up to 15, and then use it as a shot in the arm to make your early game faster when money is most scarce and increasing it is most relevant such that you can higher better advisors and stuff.
@@Theplaymaker57 I mean when you're devving past 10, you're doing it with the expectation that it will collapse, but that the benefit you will have gotten from it in the time before that will have meaningfully helped to change your game. On an entirely unrelated note you bringing up depletion luck has unearthed a memory of mine where i invested all my dip to dev a gold mine to 10 in the hope of fixing my economy, and then it collapsed in the first month, while my friend was sitting on the other end of Europe, happily continuing to collect from his 20 dev gold mine.
Bankruptcy destroys all builidngs that have been built in the past 5 years, so using your money on buildings just to declare bankruptcy was just a waste.
fyi i dont know if you know but if u have built some buildings in teh last 5 years they get cancelled when u go bankrupt, but if 5 years have passed they wont get cancelled, just so u know if u going bankrupt, i havent finished watching the video, but wanted to put that out here... learned it from arumba and florry worry
I think if you want religious rebels to spawn but not convert the province tou can send missionaries there to convert but turn off their maintenance so they will stay there infinitely but tye rebels will spawn
Any ideas why Ottomans capital doesn't return to Constantinople ? I've converted it, added to hre and then converted back with rebels, returned to ottos, took their new capital, but it;s new capital were in anatolia(lol)
You being weak does not play a huge role in HRE voting when it comes to reform. You also have max Imperial Authority and crazy high diplo rep by this point.
@@Theplaymaker57 The last reform only requires a majority to pass and you inherit everything? I know that they changed the revoke reform so that you only vassalize princes that are willing to support the reform, whereas prior to 1.36 you only needed positive opinion to make them a vassal.
@@heathmckenzie6875 That is correct, Only need a Majority, For the revoke reform, anyone opposed will leave the HRE, that is not the case with the last reform.
@@Theplaymaker57Excellent strategy you developed. Revoke when strong and all members are weak and then final reform when you are 1 province and only need a majority. Good video.
I am Japanese. Thank you for the wonderful video. Is it okay if Spain, Portugal, and Great Britain join the HRE and then don't integrate them until the 1700s, when colonization ends? I want to keep using a lot of vassals.
I always lose my war with Burgundy because he is allied with Aragon and Naples, and Castile cant defeat Aragon and will be occupied by Aragon soon and leave the war. I dont know how to win this war due to my weak Castile ally
on 2:58 did u load a save file because you declared war while military access? in all these cuts there happens a lot like you probably managed hre elector relations and stuff?
Could you exlain please when and how you got Polland / Lithuania? I do not see in the video you did PU them, neither invited into HRE. Yet when you form the HRE they both are included into the empire
Is the burgundy war necessary in the long run as long as you get BI? I can't seem to get good RNG on them (They've rivaled me or allied castille or france) and I'd rather just go straight for france if I can't beat them.
What dlc’s do you have, I’m trying to recreate your run but can’t seem to find the button to return provinces, and for some reason I have to wait like 7 years for other alleys to join a war with me after I’ve already fought with them
Art of War is the one that gives you province transfering. I think you should get the tri-monthly subscription for 15 over 3 moths (1 month subscription is a ripoff now) and just have all of them
i think he first conquers the capital of a nation. cores it, and adds it to hre. then he returns that province to nation he took it from. then he declares another war and takes their new capital which makes them change their capital back to their original capital, which is now in HRE and makes them a hre nation. not sure if this still works and why would you do that since you can fluidly expand your empire with proper cb.
Less than 200 development, good relationship, direct conection to HRE for there capital, and they will join. For bigger nations than 200 development, he showed us the capital trick.
ruclips.net/video/UHBNcW7hqGs/видео.html you didnt mentioned how did you get the claim for france, was just doin you guide in autopilot and suddenly no CB didnt realize i have to claim before giving back the territories?
@@Theplaymaker57 im sorry i didnt see you replied i didnt mean like literally a painful watch. I meant more as in the strats are so goofy. Mb for the unclear comment man keep up the vids i always watch them since you always come up with creative and good strats the only thing that was literally painfull was the voice in my head screaming for you to dev once or twice when you had Max mana but besides that keep up the great work 👍
I hate the fact that Ramadan exists there. Also adding nations didn’t give IA I thought? Or am I’m mixing that with provinces? And how is return working? You add HRE to thier old capitol and the return makes their capitol move back so now capitol is HrE so they join Stuck out like a sore thumb but thanks for guide
"It is ok to take fights with more loses you have more menpower recovery than him", very hard AI laughts with +50% manpower, +50% manpower recovery speed, -33% regiment cost.
Imagine the whiplash the poor people in this universe got. getting conquered and then randomly either be given back to their original liege or some other realm that stretches from central Europe in a weird L-shape to their capital.
As mostly in these times, they wouldn't even know about it in rural
"Ohhh praise to the Emperor of HRE for sparing us from death"
Few years later
"Oooh praise the Sultan for saving us from evil Emperor"
After unification
"Oohh praise the Emperor of Kings, for uniting the Europe"
They just pay taxes they dont know who rules them lol
90% of the population wouldn't even notice as previous commenters said, unless the taxes/serfdom situation gets worse
I just love how you are not min-maxing or caring about much stuff and always on speed 5 but still getting awesome outcomes.
Probably low difficulty and savescum
Pure madness, and i enjoyed every part of it
Real life hre could have just done this. Smh my head
but austria irl had to waste it all
This is a great guide! I wasn't able to form russia before muscovy did it first, so I added russia to the HRE instead and got to where you are by around 1640. Made many mistakes in my run but learned a lot and was still able to follow along even as an intermediate player. Looking forward to the next videos in this series!
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Going bankrupt destroys all buildings built in the last 5 years.
Bankruptcy is definitely not the play in a situation like that lmao.
If they didn't fixed, bankruptcy doesn't delete the buildings from trade companies
The important point was upgrading the great project, and the level 3 upgrade stayed. I did notice the building did not stay, but still got what I wanted out of the bankruptcy.
@@emib6599 It does.
@@Theplaymaker57 Fair. No real downside in SP I guess.
Yea I was so confused by that. Thought you would wait till 1504 (5 years after buildings finish) to declare.
you are an artist, man. good job.
5:58 AI moment, lol
Well done yet again! I would never have thought of moving great powers into the HRE like that.. good job!
As of 1.37 you also have to release Picardie in your initial war with Burgundy, otherwise their capital stays outside the HRE.
Man, getting some very nostalgic vibes with forming Russia and forcing your capital to the new world, even tho it has nothing to do with our friend the uh, Siberian Frontier
Interesting. I got almost identical results with a quite different approach.
I allied Provence so that they would join as soon as they get threatened by France (within 10 years)
I balkanized Bohemia instead of PU.
And I also balkanized Ottomans and converted Beyliks to catholic and added to the empire.
Didn’t do lvl 3 Prague. Did much less own vassals to keep AE down with the imerials, had to spam a lot of Expand Empires.
I do something like this too but I do it with Bohemia, I feel all these shenanigans are just too tedious, with bohemia you can do the same of this but with less problems thanks to 100% annexation cost of vassals and the Government reform to get PUs on absolutely everyone, I flip a couple times into some stuff like S&P, Netherlands for PU on England and Prussia for easy Gov efficiency and other stuff, end with being Russia and that's it, it's really easy and I do it in almost the same time as this one but is just way more relaxed, you can stay as a vassal swarm or just take it yourself, whatever float your boat
I don't understand how you're able to do this without getting the 'Distant War' debuff from Poland when declaring on France, and the same with trying to get aid from Castille against Burgundy. My allies just do not have any reasons to join the war despite having favours and high Diplo Rep. Also the day after I finish my war against Burgundy, they rival me. Seems super difficult to replicate this kind of play.
Honestly, use favours to get ‘trust’. It’s broken af, it can stop your allies becoming rivals, guarantee you the burg inheritance and give you reasons to go to war and will just come and help. Better than ‘prepare for war’ in favours section.
Use ‘curry favours’ and have high opinion with target
Same with the war against burgundy too. Castille wont join because its too far, and instead of allying to aragon they allied to venice who is a monster. Its 5 years into the game so no time to curry for trust or even really prep war
@oljiocal you can't get enough favours in that short a span of time at game start to boost trust to the point of them not rivalling you.
Trust and prepare for war are not enough to counter the 100 debuff Poland has from distant war. The question remains @@oljiocal
Very impressive.
Oh yeah, I am defenetly looking forward to the next parts :D
i cant believe what i see, you are crazy man really awesome
I do not understand anything, but looks amazing! Could you / somebody list our step-by-step guide or explanation whats going on? I do not understand how you can manage all these economy issue, AE, and the most of all to keep Italian nations in the HRE while spending so many time of your diplos to fabricating claims or else....
economy issue, loans are only a number.
AE, as long you and your allies are stronger than your coalition, they will not DOW. If you overpower the coalition (spend money into all possible mercs to push your army to extrem), your coalition will even disband.
His AE on italy wasn't so high, he did only take venice as italian province, rest of the time, he taken non italien culture province, so his AE was lower on them, rest is pushing relationship to +150 to finish the event.
With +100 relation pushing, +50 alliance, +50 imperial bestow, it is normally doable.
That's why he didn't pick milan PU, to much AE in italy, and makes the diplomatic way of shadow empire far to difficulty.
Genius idea, never knew that !
Goated and based as usual
26:20 It's because he has the Ewiger Landfride modifier with _each_ member of the HRE
This is gonna be my guide for wv thank you
This is the most cursed thing I have ever seen
Oooh, this is an amazing strategy!
Love your Guide and want to mix it with your newest Burgundy tag switch stategy! But my my question is.... what is the best sequence of tag switching in other countries to get the most benefits out of these? I want in my run high Admin Eff, CCR and also modifiers for culture conversion. I want to make an easy One Faith/One Culture run in iron mode...
Do you have any advices for me? :-) I`m from Germany, so it would be nice, if the final country would germany, too. But i don`t want to mess things up, so maybe you can help me... :-) Thank you very much for your videos, keep up the good work!
Germany was my first world conquest, so they are certainly super solid. Though if you want the strongest mods you’ll need to form into the Roman Empire(Rome has ccr and culture conversation) But you could just stay Germany for fun. Sequence wise I would say. Sardina piedmont -> prussia -> England -> Germany -> Rome would be fairly solid. And you would be fine to not go rome.
@@Theplaymaker57 Thank you very much! So... First of all switch to France for the Burgundian Mission trick, Renovatio Imperii to form HRE, release and play as Burgundy and than Sardina and so on... okay ... now i know what i have to do!
First vid i see of u, insta sub ;)
My new fav eu4 youtuber
Thats the most cursed EU4 video i've seen in my life
Man, I hate it when people say not to dev the gold mine up past 10 dip dev. That's true if what you want from it is consistent output throughout the whole game, but I really don't think that's a good use for gold. Dev it up to 15, and then use it as a shot in the arm to make your early game faster when money is most scarce and increasing it is most relevant such that you can higher better advisors and stuff.
I suppose its up to you how greedy you want to be, I get badluck with the goldmine collapsing when I dev it past 10
@@Theplaymaker57 I mean when you're devving past 10, you're doing it with the expectation that it will collapse, but that the benefit you will have gotten from it in the time before that will have meaningfully helped to change your game.
On an entirely unrelated note you bringing up depletion luck has unearthed a memory of mine where i invested all my dip to dev a gold mine to 10 in the hope of fixing my economy, and then it collapsed in the first month, while my friend was sitting on the other end of Europe, happily continuing to collect from his 20 dev gold mine.
Bankruptcy destroys all builidngs that have been built in the past 5 years, so using your money on buildings just to declare bankruptcy was just a waste.
(you could always just improve imperial relations when >50 imperial authority)
Pure madness! Could I ask why do you need to convert to Mayan? Love your vids btw
Its mostly just for fun. but it does give you +20% Core creation cost.
@@Theplaymaker57and ensuring the outcome of an easy wc
fyi i dont know if you know but if u have built some buildings in teh last 5 years they get cancelled when u go bankrupt, but if 5 years have passed they wont get cancelled, just so u know if u going bankrupt, i havent finished watching the video, but wanted to put that out here... learned it from arumba and florry worry
Do you ever make save games available? That would be pretty awesome
Sure I can start doing that, I know alot of people want that
wait how did you transfer more then 1 occupation to burgundy during the war and how do i not know about this?
I made a short about it you can check out haha. Titled don't sleep on this 1.36 QOL change.
@@Theplaymaker57 nice thanks
Build and declare bankrupcy?
You need wait 5 years after a building is done to keep it, else it gets removed.
I think if you want religious rebels to spawn but not convert the province tou can send missionaries there to convert but turn off their maintenance so they will stay there infinitely but tye rebels will spawn
amazing
Good shit 🚬
I just cant force the other Great Powers into the hre. Whenever i take their capitals, they just move them to another province not part of the hre.
13:51 - you went to war with Hungary, and one of his allies was in the coalition, how come no one joined?
Another cool video. Why did you have to switch to Mayan before you formed the HRE?
Because Mayan gives 20% ccr. its not important really, its just a fun thing you can do.
@@Theplaymaker57 Very cool! I know very little about the new world relations or cultures. I should try playing in that area more.
has this been patched? i took burgundys capital and returned it but they rivaled me and didnt join the HRE.
same here, this is heavily rng-based. sometimes it works, sometimes not
Any ideas why Ottomans capital doesn't return to Constantinople ? I've converted it, added to hre and then converted back with rebels, returned to ottos, took their new capital, but it;s new capital were in anatolia(lol)
Do they have a valid connecting path to the capital?
Why did you convert to Mayan?
Mayan Gives 20% CCR, and some other nice bonuses.
jesus christ so much land did u get to the 1566, good job man :D im astonished
How will they accept the final reform when you are 1 province and so weak?
You being weak does not play a huge role in HRE voting when it comes to reform. You also have max Imperial Authority and crazy high diplo rep by this point.
@@Theplaymaker57 The last reform only requires a majority to pass and you inherit everything? I know that they changed the revoke reform so that you only vassalize princes that are willing to support the reform, whereas prior to 1.36 you only needed positive opinion to make them a vassal.
@@heathmckenzie6875 That is correct, Only need a Majority, For the revoke reform, anyone opposed will leave the HRE, that is not the case with the last reform.
@@Theplaymaker57Excellent strategy you developed. Revoke when strong and all members are weak and then final reform when you are 1 province and only need a majority. Good video.
I am Japanese.
Thank you for the wonderful video.
Is it okay if Spain, Portugal, and Great Britain join the HRE and then don't integrate them until the 1700s, when colonization ends?
I want to keep using a lot of vassals.
Sure, that works fine.
I always lose my war with Burgundy because he is allied with Aragon and Naples, and Castile cant defeat Aragon and will be occupied by Aragon soon and leave the war. I dont know how to win this war due to my weak Castile ally
on 2:58 did u load a save file because you declared war while military access?
in all these cuts there happens a lot like you probably managed hre elector relations and stuff?
No I just closed the window and reopened it and declared the war. but did not want to re-record it.
Could you exlain please when and how you got Polland / Lithuania? I do not see in the video you did PU them, neither invited into HRE. Yet when you form the HRE they both are included into the empire
I forced the capitals into the HRE
I am trying this and I cannot get GRB to get into the HRE though this method. Will try a third time tonight.
Why did he flip Mayan at the end?
For fun, but also 20% ccr
Isn't getting reichskrieg from decentralized reforma to get whole Europę into hre then cancelling decentralized and getting centralized easier?
I honestly don't know what decentralizing does at all haha
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You need to slow down, I am currently playing Brandenburg, Austria to Byzantium, France and now another contestant....
Is the burgundy war necessary in the long run as long as you get BI? I can't seem to get good RNG on them (They've rivaled me or allied castille or france) and I'd rather just go straight for france if I can't beat them.
I would say its very impactful, but you can go without it. I'd say it will speed up your revoke 20+ years. but, that being said, you'll be fine
@@Theplaymaker57 Awesome thank you, love your videos keep up the good work :)
I got to about 1459, then coalittioned by half europe
Edit i beat the livin hell outta em
What dlc’s do you have, I’m trying to recreate your run but can’t seem to find the button to return provinces, and for some reason I have to wait like 7 years for other alleys to join a war with me after I’ve already fought with them
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@@Theplaymaker57 how did you get all of them, aren’t they like €350 altogether?
@@Not-A-Content-Creator I've been playing for many years, so I just buy them as they release
Art of War is the one that gives you province transfering. I think you should get the tri-monthly subscription for 15 over 3 moths (1 month subscription is a ripoff now) and just have all of them
@@Not-A-Content-Creator You can always use the 5euro sub model from paradox, and test all DLC for a month.
coalitions switched off?
How does the whole Burgundy adds provinces to the HRE thing work?
The trick is to force it to move the capital to a province inside the empire, making them join automaticaly.
All you have to do is take their capital. Their new capital will be in the empire.
@@ares4298 Thanks buddy
@@horstschlemmer9578 did work. Thanks
An for me, they moved it to Picardie, outside of empire...@@ares4298
Where is the part 2? Is it released?
how I forced the capitals into the HRE ? just add capitals HRE dont add other province?
i think he first conquers the capital of a nation.
cores it, and adds it to hre.
then he returns that province to nation he took it from.
then he declares another war and takes their new capital which makes them change their capital back to their original capital, which is now in HRE and makes them a hre nation.
not sure if this still works and why would you do that since you can fluidly expand your empire with proper cb.
How are your vassals joining the hre? Mine never seem to join by themselves.
Less than 200 development, good relationship, direct conection to HRE for there capital, and they will join.
For bigger nations than 200 development, he showed us the capital trick.
gg
why doesnt he just grant supremacy over the crown and not grant 3 different privileges
I don't understand the point of being mayan ?
ruclips.net/video/UHBNcW7hqGs/видео.html you didnt mentioned how did you get the claim for france, was just doin you guide in autopilot and suddenly no CB didnt realize i have to claim before giving back the territories?
holyshit! with more than 4000hours, i m still just a noob😂
Why dont u pick court ideas with +5% IA growth?
Because then I would have court ideas 🤣
@@Theplaymaker57 influence is better in that situation?
@@leanon4963 For sure, or diplo if you'd prefer.
@@Theplaymaker57 thx. happy new years. bro u make incredible content
Court ideas arent good enough even with the ia
Is this how you achieved Triple the Rome?
I actually don't have that achievement
Day eight of asking for a true one tag, one faith, one culture Theodoro campaign.
Why the fuck cant i get 17k on loans
Cant progress on praga building cause of it, i can only get like 10k
I have not noticed whether you have taken Russian Ideas or not
Nice vid, where are u from?
I sub out of respect.
why not pu hungary?
I like the authority you get for adding nations to the HRE instead.
Hi,
why do you have soaring 0.48 imperial authority growth in 1474 ? Is this easy difficulty?
This is on normal, just stacking mods and reclaiming hre lands
WTF is going on so much bug abuse
good video but painful watch
Can you elaborate? Is there something I could change to improve the viewer experience?
it's a fine watch, don't worry. I certainly enjoyed it.@@Theplaymaker57
@@Theplaymaker57 im sorry i didnt see you replied i didnt mean like literally a painful watch. I meant more as in the strats are so goofy. Mb for the unclear comment man keep up the vids i always watch them since you always come up with creative and good strats the only thing that was literally painfull was the voice in my head screaming for you to dev once or twice when you had Max mana but besides that keep up the great work 👍
@@Theplaymaker57He means your strategy is cursed and unorthodox
Would you mind speaking a little bit slower for non-native English speakers plaese ? :)
I can try! sorry about that. I also tend to mumble I've been told.
I hate the fact that Ramadan exists there. Also adding nations didn’t give IA I thought? Or am I’m mixing that with provinces? And how is return working? You add HRE to thier old capitol and the return makes their capitol move back so now capitol is HrE so they join
Stuck out like a sore thumb but thanks for guide
provinces don't give ai tho they used to.
You get IA if the nation joins the HRE on their own, I made a short about it you can check out.
ahh thats it@@selcukavc9813
"It is ok to take fights with more loses you have more menpower recovery than him", very hard AI laughts with +50% manpower, +50% manpower recovery speed, -33% regiment cost.
Playmaker
Get on and defend corner pillar
@@achatina8239 I'm ready, send me that invite.
@@Theplaymaker57 on Xbox now lmao
THIS IS DISGUSTING
Just curious but do you have a gf?