I can totally agree with you there. My dad made me learn how to drive his three speed in the tree Ford F-100 before he’d ever let me get my drivers license. And the just for shits and giggles he tested me on the pre trip test and actually driving his big rig. Needless to say I did better than my sister. She couldn’t even make it out our driveway in the Ford.
As a Truck Driver trainer the answer is "no, the average Joe cannot drive an 18 wheeler"😂🤣. Truth be told if you wouldn't have giving them pointers they would have failed. But luckily for these two guys you gave them a few pointers which helped them getting through the course. Great job to Randy and Joe. For their first time they did great.
Yeah that would be fun to see. Lol. For the next one they should legally get their permits and drive on real roads with light, like normal small town traffic. Without any help unless of course he's about to commit something catastrophic.🤣😂 Give them 3 strike rule. Give them the same DPS (Department of Public Safety) type road test.
100% agree with you. A few pointers and a safe course is not hopping in a truck and taking it down the street. An average Joe cannot do this job without some training. I used to train 88M guys from the National Guard as well and they hardly had a clue how to operate in traffic and zero clue how to shift.
If you look up Swift's SafeStat score you'd find that for the number of drivers and the number of miles driven per year they are actually a very safe company.
Driver trainer here. This technically is not driving without training. The fact that he takes him around the course, shows them how to shift, shows them what to look out for, gives them tips and tricks with the clutch... That is training. The more interesting video I think would be to let them climb up in that truck and figure out how to start it how to get it moving. With some students it really is as simple as taking them on a 30 minute drive letting them observe what you're doing and a lot of people have got the basics after that and the rest of training is observing correcting and teaching and the rest will just come with experience.
Don’t encourage people to shift clutchless. It’s important you learn to double clutch first, it helps with timing and learning to regulate rpm and finding the point of zero load that you can shift at if you don’t use the clutch.
I sure put the wear and tare on the tranny trying to figure it out. The driver training me had problems too. Nothing like a stick shift on a pickup. Lol
Not bad actually for first time out. I've seen a lot worse, like trying to teach my nephew to drive a 5-speed in a car. What blew me away was Joe. He'd never driven a manual and decided to start with a non-synchronized 10-speed, and did a pretty decent job too! The floating thing comes with practice and patience. Probably a good idea to start with the clutch until you get used to road-speed vs rpm vs gear, but Joe was actually the smoothest at that. My fail on that would've been looking out the back window while backing. I drive a day cab now too, but I still use my mirrors, but then I'm usually hauling box trailers. Kudos for trying it! Fun video.
Remember, you need to double-clutch for the State test. It might have changed but, if you haven't checked with your school already or checked directly with the State, you might want to in order to make sure you don't get too far into something that may be practical but is not test approved before you get past the test.
I was able to skip double clutching because #1 I had a really cool tester an #2 I didn't mess up on a single thing so the points that came off for not double clutching did not hurt my score
@@ontheroad5317I’ve taken many want to be drivers for their road test at the hazen rd concord facility. None of them have ever been required to double clutch. Maybe you just got a bastard to deal with.
@@snydedon9636 Interesting. I had to look it up, I thought maybe they changed it over the last few years. Especially with automatics getting more common. But it’s still technically a requirement, and I guess it would depend how old-school your tester is. 13.1.11(a) - Clutch usage (for Manual Transmission) Always use clutch to shift. If equipped with an unsynchronized manual transmission, you must double-clutch when shifting. Do not rev or lug the engine. Do not ride clutch to control speed, coast with clutch depressed, or “pop” the clutch.
Same here. The dude that was "teaching" them how to drive was actually doing a pretty good job. yes there were some technical discrepancies, but as a non-professional he got the guys rolling and not hitting stuff. "Swing wide. It's a Friggin trailer".
Ahh the memories of my youth. My first truck was a 86 Kenworth W900 long nose with 60 inch double bunk with Grey VIT interior, 15 speed with Cummins 400 hp. Pulled a 45 foot freuhauf spread axle flatbed. Also reminded me how how many "fun and interesting " sounds a manual transmission could make.
They both did pretty good,but you will be required to double clutch in school,all new drivers need to feel the left knee burn for awhile and floating will come with time,it's about matching road speed with the right gear.For my test,I had to straight line back,offset back and parallel park the truck and trailer in Kentucky.
I have no idea how to double clutch or even what the purpose is. Been driving commercial for 30 years. Never went to school, learned on the job. All that was required for the CDL was a written test.
@Zociety6477 You will have to attend an approved school to obtain the necessary training and road time,no insurance company will touch you without an approved training course.
@michaelwilder9231 I was looking at a few companies that are willing to send me to school like PRIME, Crum or Schnieder. I'm from Kentucky as well so I was just wondering if you had any recommendations for me as far as that was concerned. I can't afford to pay for schooling currently unfortunately
@Zociety6477 You will be contracted to work for them for an amount of time at low wages,call your local employment office to check for grants or financial assistance options,or help from family and pay them back,that way you are not stuck with a crap company.
That's the right way to learn it to help with the shift timing. if you watch a new guy they have no concept of the timing on flat ground let alone uphill or downhill.
In Michigan, they want you to double clutch, but some testers are more worried about if you can control the truck, so if your proficient with floating they won't care so much about it
Don't push the clutch all the way to the floor - that's killing the clutch brake. Just push it enough to disengage. If you push the clutch to the floor, the clutch brake is going to try to stop the whole truck.
Just a tip; with an empty trailer, you can start in 2nd gear at least. I’d probably start off in 3rd with that trailer. Hell, even with 20,000 pounds of cargo I’d start off in 2nd unless I was on a pretty good incline.
As a 2 year truck driver ngl with zero previous experience seeing everyday people trying to drive semis is so entertaining reminds me that I was there at one point.
What you're calling a "splitter" is really a plunger. A plunger goes from low range to high range. Its a repeat shift pattern. A splitter would be in say a 13 speed. It takes the top 4 gears in a 9 speed and gives you overdrive in them gears. 9+4=13. When I drove a 13 speed I always called the top 4 gears 6th direct-6th over 7th direct-7th over etc. It's been many years since I drove a 13 speed so im probably saying some things wrong. Good video. Enjoyed it.
Interesting to watch, Ive been an instructor for many years, so I see this all the time with new students, but for information the ten speed does not have a SPLITER, it is a range selector. A splitter is used in 13 and 18 speed type gear boxes and splits individual gears into a hi and lo. effectively doubling the number of gears. Floating (shifting without the clutch) is a normal practice used by professional drivers.) Unfortunately, it's a test requirement to use double clutching as a method of shifting gears for your DOT cdl test. In my experience I've found it far simpler to teach a person who has never shifted before, than to teach someone who can drive a manual stick shift car. Simply because it's easier to teach someone a new skill, ie double clutching than it is to break the habit of single clutching that a car driver does with a synchronized transmission. the technique and timing are totally different.
I think you just launched a new sideline business. There's lots of guys out there who would pay to do what these guys did. It was fun to watch. Great content.
This sounded like one of those 'hold by beer' moments. I think any of the 3 of you could be better than many OTR steering wheel holders, especially from Swift (SWIFT also means 'swing wide its a freaking trailer). For sure you did better than I would as terrible at backing up a car.
@@BrandonLeech Clearly never been to Vermont. Half the state is incredibly racist and conservative hillbilly. I would know because I have family from some of the most remote hollows in the state. But the state is to gerrymandered that the small population of lunatics get to elect people like Bernie and his local equivalent.
if it gets stuck in gear try giving it a little throttle and should move right out being doin this for 15 years and I don't even think about shifting anymore or look at the tac and start in 3rd not 1st no one starts in 1st
Guys guys guys quit looking out that window!!!! Use those mirrors!!!! Over all not a bad job!!!!! "Violent with it" lol Bro when did you get the pythons? Cant wait to see the car hauling videos.
I feel like an explanation to each driver about how that transmission works beyond, “you don’t have to clutch” while that may be true, there’s a lot more to a shift than that.
You guys did great! Looks like Randy did better with shifting, but Joe did better with the trailer. Makes me look forward to getting my CDL. Loving the new rig as well! God bless - Everett
If you're serious about getting your cdl, start learning the pre trip script now.... It was save you alot of headache come school time, not trying to absorb all the info on top of memorizing that stupid ass pre trip script. Each state is a little different, and I'm sure you can find a pdf of an example for your state. I got to the point where I was reciting it in my head all day long at work, in the shower.... every little bit of practice helps, and once you pass your cdl test, you will never have to do that god awful pre trip again.
@@Jarl_Thidrandi A pre-trip inspection is required at the beginning of every shift and anytime you change equipment. With the state of fleet equipment {poor maintenance} not pre-tripping is a dereliction of your duty to public safety. I have found; leaking hubs, bad tires {insufficient treads,delaminating retreads}, missing mudflaps, dragging brakes, leaking brakes, even had one that had been driven 200+ miles to that location with the u-bolts that held the trailer axle to the springs loose{took over one half hour with a torch and pneumatic wrench to tighten} and the everpresent malfunctioning lights. At one time I was responsible for taking the tractors to the local shop for maintenance. One idiots tractor was 2 gallons below the add line on oil. He blamed it on the daytime driver who probably drove a max of 80 miles a day, whilst he drove 500. These 2 lunched 2 engines the second of which 2 pistons came out in multiple pieces. So there is a reason to pre-trip after passing your cdl, unless you like sitting at an inspection station waiting for a mechanic {getting points against your DOT record}.
I knew how to not use the clutch in passenger vehicles before I learned the big trucks when I was 20. My brother taught me the big trucks, driving OTR. First thing was changing seats while on the highway at speed. Then after I got used to the size of the tractor trailer I began maneuvers. The good ol days with just a Chauffeur license. 👍
I bought a 35 foot school bus without any experience. The test drive was on a WIDE dirt road, thank God, and it was terrifying. After a few miles on the interstate in the pouring rain I was good. You just have to remember it’s a wide, long vehicle.
that looked so fun! i'd love to try out something like that : ) I can drive a stick shift, but i've never driven a trailer. I have always kind of wanted to try driving a rig! Awesome video ARV!
Gotta remember it's not quite like a car stick shift since it's non synchronized. You need to match engine speed to wheel speed on every shift. Sounds harder than it is though
@@Redbikemaster It is a synchronized transmission. Try floating the gears on your synchronized cars transmission without matching revs. None of you have likely driven a straight cut transmission.
@@TomTerrific-vm3qg if you have to rev match, it's not synchronized. That's the entire point of synchros. "Straight cut" is an entirely different unrelated term. It refers to the teeth of the gears themselves. It has nothing to do with synchronization. Semi trucks generally don't have synchronized transmissions. If they did, they wouldn't require either floating or double-clutching. They'd shift like a manual car.
Thank you for doing this Driver Test Drive. Fun watching them, not paying attention to RPM. On my 1971 SeaGrave Fire Engine 🚒 there is a RED marker on RPM gage. If You can raise RPM to 2000+ and shift when RPM falls to that RED marker at 1500 I drops in gear every time. Down shift Rev up RPM double clutch and shift as RPM drops to 1500. The Power plant on SeaGrave is a 8V-71 Detroit Diesel, the transmission is a Dana/ Spicer, I have done an overhaul on the transmission and worked on the slave clutch. The only thing left to make the gear shifter better is replace pins in its shaft to transmission,
My boss took me approximately 3miles from the yard to the highway. Said that's your training, now get this to Yuma. Driving a old Diamond Rio. Keep in mind I'd been driving standards all my life but not a semi, I missed 1 gear exiting the highway but found the next gear. The rest is history. Been driving semi truck now for 40+ yrs. Back in the day most all vehicles were standards & as long as the vehicle had keys in the ignition I could drive it. Keep in mind , moving a vehicle any vehicle/ semi can be done. But actually driving a Semi takes yrs of experience. The age old saying I can drive a truck, but I'm not a truck driver. I'm now a Semi Driver.
If you can't find 'em, grind 'em😂😂 That's why it's not really a great idea to teach a person to drive a standard without using the clutch. Just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should.
Nice Video smarts about the driving course and NOT on the road. Learn to Double Clutch it is on Driving Test for CDL. Good explaining on how to FLOAT a great or shifting with our using clutch.
I never learned. I went to test and the instructor couldn't say I didn't have to but said he never did so I floated. So really depends on the instructor you test with.
First dude did pretty well honestly! I've seen new drivers who have practiced WAY more and can't shift that well! Second guy did really good too! His setups for his reverses were better than the first guy. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Fun video!
As long as you have no major medical problems inherited or found out years later- THEN THE AGENDA DRIVEN CORPORATE/POLITICIAN GREED KICKS IN AND you are forced out of it and have to take a $25000 a year job.
As a farm boy, that's actually how I learned to drive a truck in the eighties . Boss said follow me . I hopped in and away I went . I later went out west to a truck driving school call called transport careers. I took my class A test in El cajon California in 1985. I got 100 percent.
That looks like fun -- I'd pay you $10 to do this, no bet needed! Amusingly, it reminds me of the time years back when I was driving a friend's manual-transmission Acura after being used to my full-size Ford truck. It took me quite a while to get used to shifting gears on a high-revving low-torque sports engine!
Great video! A lot of laughs! That Volvo is one of the easiest to drive! When I took my road test for my Cdl lic. back in 1984 I used a KW w900 with a twin stick and manual steering. Now that was a truck! Most drivers today could not drive. But that made me a better driver even after I drove most of the time was trucks with 13 speed road rangers!
I haven't finished watching the video yet and I'm already scared! I wouldn't even bet, I don't think I'd even want to try to drive that without training. Yikes!!!
I grew up on a farm and was driving semi in the field when I was 11. Dad let me drive semi on the road around 14 but I was driving farm tractors with 40 ft field cultivators on the road for years before that .
The only thing I would say is, 99% of the time I don’t bother with 1st gear. If I’ve got a heavy load and I’m pointing uphill, then I’ll start in first, otherwise it’s 2nd gear from a dead stop.
Been awhile since I drove a 10-speed, but the first truck I ever drove professionally was a gas job Ford with a five and four transmission (that’s with two sticks). It takes a little time to learn. I currently drive logging trucks with the best transmission, the 18- speed. Great video. You knew what you were talking about when I saw you drove without the clutch. lol Only for stopping and starting 😂
I just got my HC (Semi License) after having a HR truck License for several years there are specific skills you must master to drive a semi, ie backing technique, cornering, braking, you need appropriate training/mentoring to get your license.
He even had them floating gears lol. I think it’s easier to double clutch when learning how to drive. Every now and then I still double clutch just so I don’t forget lol.
I grew up on a standard shift , my first car was a standard shift , but when I got behind the wheel of a Bigfoot tractor , I couldn't figure out what was missing , all it wasn't the proper knowledge I needed and that's it , but once you got it you have it , I can truly say I love my Big Macks , 😁😁😂😂
"I got sponsors out there in the stands, and I'm huggin em and kissing em in the ear, and what do we do? We end up looking like a monkey fahking a football out there ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I tend to listen to the videos on double speed...and when he says "If my two average Joe friends" in double speed, it totally sounds like he's saying "if my two average girlfriends"....
I think they all done brilaint and I think they should all do the licence together. Nice team make really good money. I subscribed grate video Good luck gentlemen.
Joe is actually a professional truck driver just being humble and lets everyone think its his first time lol
lol I think he is
As a 23 years veteran, this was quite entertaining. Everybody should be required to do this before they're allowed to drive a car.
Almost nobody would have a driver's license if they were required to pass a CDL driving test. 🤣
Good idea. If they did that then they might not cut us off no more an maybe have a little more respect for us
I can totally agree with you there. My dad made me learn how to drive his three speed in the tree Ford F-100 before he’d ever let me get my drivers license. And the just for shits and giggles he tested me on the pre trip test and actually driving his big rig. Needless to say I did better than my sister. She couldn’t even make it out our driveway in the Ford.
@@BrandonLeechand the problem with that? 😂😂😂
@@BrandonLeechRegular written tests ?
As a Truck Driver trainer the answer is "no, the average Joe cannot drive an 18 wheeler"😂🤣. Truth be told if you wouldn't have giving them pointers they would have failed. But luckily for these two guys you gave them a few pointers which helped them getting through the course. Great job to Randy and Joe. For their first time they did great.
I really wanted to see em do a alley dock .
Yeah that would be fun to see. Lol. For the next one they should legally get their permits and drive on real roads with light, like normal small town traffic. Without any help unless of course he's about to commit something catastrophic.🤣😂 Give them 3 strike rule. Give them the same DPS (Department of Public Safety) type road test.
@@boricua7928 I would pay money to see that lmao
The only pointer I was given was that the trailer would move in the opposite direction of what you would expect in a straight truck when backing.
100% agree with you. A few pointers and a safe course is not hopping in a truck and taking it down the street. An average Joe cannot do this job without some training. I used to train 88M guys from the National Guard as well and they hardly had a clue how to operate in traffic and zero clue how to shift.
I love how randy just holds her to the floor and just jams it in gear
Hahahaa
That’s what us truck drivers call “natural talent”
Joe actually did really good, even shifting and skipping gears already? kudos! both did great!
They are over qualified to work for Swift..lol
😅😅😅
You beat me to it lmao
With those 3 guys experience Swift would make them trainers after hiring.
If you look up Swift's SafeStat score you'd find that for the number of drivers and the number of miles driven per year they are actually a very safe company.
They just happen to hire boneheaded truck drivers. Lol.
Driver trainer here. This technically is not driving without training. The fact that he takes him around the course, shows them how to shift, shows them what to look out for, gives them tips and tricks with the clutch... That is training. The more interesting video I think would be to let them climb up in that truck and figure out how to start it how to get it moving. With some students it really is as simple as taking them on a 30 minute drive letting them observe what you're doing and a lot of people have got the basics after that and the rest of training is observing correcting and teaching and the rest will just come with experience.
That's pretty much how it was for me. Passed the CDL road test with 4 hours of practice lol. Over half a million miles now.
Exactly
Training invokes being critiqued. It maybe cheating a little. It isn't training though
I thought that's what this video would be about. Instead it's a training video.
After ELDT you have to basically get driver training
Don’t encourage people to shift clutchless.
It’s important you learn to double clutch first, it helps with timing and learning to regulate rpm and finding the point of zero load that you can shift at if you don’t use the clutch.
I would not want to be the transmission repair technician looking at the gears in that gear box ROFL
What gears
Just a little glitter. 👀
I sure put the wear and tare on the tranny trying to figure it out. The driver training me had problems too. Nothing like a stick shift on a pickup. Lol
It's 4 grand to put a rebuilt tranny in its not that big of a deal
They can take a LOT of grinding/abuse compared to a regular car manual transmission.
Not bad actually for first time out. I've seen a lot worse, like trying to teach my nephew to drive a 5-speed in a car. What blew me away was Joe. He'd never driven a manual and decided to start with a non-synchronized 10-speed, and did a pretty decent job too! The floating thing comes with practice and patience. Probably a good idea to start with the clutch until you get used to road-speed vs rpm vs gear, but Joe was actually the smoothest at that. My fail on that would've been looking out the back window while backing. I drive a day cab now too, but I still use my mirrors, but then I'm usually hauling box trailers. Kudos for trying it! Fun video.
That transmission is synchronized.
Fair play to them 👍👍 also mad respect for people that drive those for a living !
Remember, you need to double-clutch for the State test. It might have changed but, if you haven't checked with your school already or checked directly with the State, you might want to in order to make sure you don't get too far into something that may be practical but is not test approved before you get past the test.
I was able to skip double clutching because #1 I had a really cool tester an #2 I didn't mess up on a single thing so the points that came off for not double clutching did not hurt my score
Yeah I had to double clutch on my state test in NH. And those guys were absolute bastards about the pre-trip inspection.
Double clutching is just a waste of time and more wear an tear on the clutch components.
@@ontheroad5317I’ve taken many want to be drivers for their road test at the hazen rd concord facility. None of them have ever been required to double clutch. Maybe you just got a bastard to deal with.
@@snydedon9636 Interesting. I had to look it up, I thought maybe they changed it over the last few years. Especially with automatics getting more common.
But it’s still technically a requirement, and I guess it would depend how old-school your tester is.
13.1.11(a) - Clutch usage (for Manual Transmission)
Always use clutch to shift.
If equipped with an unsynchronized manual transmission, you must double-clutch when shifting. Do not rev or lug the engine.
Do not ride clutch to control speed, coast with clutch depressed, or “pop” the clutch.
As a truck driver I really enjoyed this.
Yeah same!! Really laughed watching Joe bend the gear stick before letting off the throttle🤣
Same here. The dude that was "teaching" them how to drive was actually doing a pretty good job. yes there were some technical discrepancies, but as a non-professional he got the guys rolling and not hitting stuff. "Swing wide. It's a Friggin trailer".
Yeah same here
A real truck driver wouldn’t have looked thru that back window when backing the trailer lol
Work smarter, not harder... no doubt a difficult concept for you.
Ahh the memories of my youth. My first truck was a 86 Kenworth W900 long nose with 60 inch double bunk with Grey VIT interior, 15 speed with Cummins 400 hp. Pulled a 45 foot freuhauf spread axle flatbed. Also reminded me how how many "fun and interesting " sounds a manual transmission could make.
They both did pretty good,but you will be required to double clutch in school,all new drivers need to feel the left knee burn for awhile and floating will come with time,it's about matching road speed with the right gear.For my test,I had to straight line back,offset back and parallel park the truck and trailer in Kentucky.
I have no idea how to double clutch or even what the purpose is. Been driving commercial for 30 years. Never went to school, learned on the job. All that was required for the CDL was a written test.
Hey man, what did you do to get your actual cdl from your permit? I just got mine and I'm looking for a job that'll train me
@Zociety6477 You will have to attend an approved school to obtain the necessary training and road time,no insurance company will touch you without an approved training course.
@michaelwilder9231 I was looking at a few companies that are willing to send me to school like PRIME, Crum or Schnieder. I'm from Kentucky as well so I was just wondering if you had any recommendations for me as far as that was concerned. I can't afford to pay for schooling currently unfortunately
@Zociety6477 You will be contracted to work for them for an amount of time at low wages,call your local employment office to check for grants or financial assistance options,or help from family and pay them back,that way you are not stuck with a crap company.
The thing that sucks about floating gears which ever trucker does, is that on your CDL test you’re required to double clutch
Yup that's the only time I've ever double clutched lol
That's the right way to learn it to help with the shift timing. if you watch a new guy they have no concept of the timing on flat ground let alone uphill or downhill.
I can shift at any time any rpm.
@@horsefly1020your point?
In Michigan, they want you to double clutch, but some testers are more worried about if you can control the truck, so if your proficient with floating they won't care so much about it
Don't push the clutch all the way to the floor - that's killing the clutch brake. Just push it enough to disengage. If you push the clutch to the floor, the clutch brake is going to try to stop the whole truck.
Joe and Randy did great! Congrats on your first semi, ARV!
should have told them to put a small amout of pressure on the shifter before letting off the gas to flot them better
Just a tip; with an empty trailer, you can start in 2nd gear at least. I’d probably start off in 3rd with that trailer. Hell, even with 20,000 pounds of cargo I’d start off in 2nd unless I was on a pretty good incline.
20,000 is a bit much to start in 3rd because 1. It's only a 10 speed, 2. It's a single axle and 3. It's a Volvo. Lol.
@@jeffreycairns767 I meant 3rd with that trailer EMPTY.
yeah 1st gear is hardly used I call that parking lot gear and that is why reverse and 1st are in the same lineup fwiw
As a 2 year truck driver ngl with zero previous experience seeing everyday people trying to drive semis is so entertaining reminds me that I was there at one point.
You gotta lot of faith in that transmission sir😲
What you're calling a "splitter" is really a plunger. A plunger goes from low range to high range. Its a repeat shift pattern. A splitter would be in say a 13 speed. It takes the top 4 gears in a 9 speed and gives you overdrive in them gears. 9+4=13. When I drove a 13 speed I always called the top 4 gears 6th direct-6th over 7th direct-7th over etc. It's been many years since I drove a 13 speed so im probably saying some things wrong. Good video. Enjoyed it.
i call em gear-plus - 6th, 6th plus, 7th, 7th plus, etc
idk tho i kinda like direct/over, sounds more intelligent hahahaha!
Interesting to watch, Ive been an instructor for many years, so I see this all the time with new students, but for information the ten speed does not have a SPLITER, it is a range selector. A splitter is used in 13 and 18 speed type gear boxes and splits individual gears into a hi and lo. effectively doubling the number of gears. Floating (shifting without the clutch) is a normal practice used by professional drivers.) Unfortunately, it's a test requirement to use double clutching as a method of shifting gears for your DOT cdl test. In my experience I've found it far simpler to teach a person who has never shifted before, than to teach someone who can drive a manual stick shift car. Simply because it's easier to teach someone a new skill, ie double clutching than it is to break the habit of single clutching that a car driver does with a synchronized transmission. the technique and timing are totally different.
I think you just launched a new sideline business. There's lots of guys out there who would pay to do what these guys did. It was fun to watch. Great content.
Good Job Guys! This is how it should be! Just a couple of buddies! Enjoying learning not harming nothing.
Amen, brother.
Speaking as a driver, the first guy didn't do too bad. I didn't expect him to be able to get to 2nd gear.
Your a true friend,letting them grind your gears like that.
This sounded like one of those 'hold by beer' moments. I think any of the 3 of you could be better than many OTR steering wheel holders, especially from Swift (SWIFT also means 'swing wide its a freaking trailer). For sure you did better than I would as terrible at backing up a car.
Joe said hold my beer
Swift really means see what I f---ed up today.
Sure Wish I Finished Training aka SWIFT
These would be the same type of people Delta Airlines would hire for pilots (That's Delta, D-E-L-T-A, Don't Even Leave The Airport).
I always liked 'Sure Wish I Finished Training'
Absolutely shocked to see two average Vermont joes driving a Subaru and a Volvo wagon.
I swear 60% of that state drives an Outback
Haha 😂
Vermont is basically New England's version of Portland, OR. and it's surrounding areas.
@@BrandonLeech no
@@BrandonLeech Clearly never been to Vermont. Half the state is incredibly racist and conservative hillbilly. I would know because I have family from some of the most remote hollows in the state. But the state is to gerrymandered that the small population of lunatics get to elect people like Bernie and his local equivalent.
The only synchronized gear in that transmission is the shift from 5th to 6th or 6th to 5th. Nice video!
if it gets stuck in gear try giving it a little throttle and should move right out being doin this for 15 years and I don't even think about shifting anymore or look at the tac and start in 3rd not 1st no one starts in 1st
When you back up, you gotta use your mirrors not look out the back window
Blindside is easier through the back window but yes, you need the mirrors
Why would you limit yourself? If you have a truck with a window, use the damn window
@@TheGearJamminDeer, because they aren't bright enough to grasp "work smarter, not harder". 🤣
They did a nice job! 👏I practiced with my dad one summer. It gave me an appreciation of what he did daily. He drove a tanker.
Guys guys guys quit looking out that window!!!! Use those mirrors!!!!
Over all not a bad job!!!!!
"Violent with it" lol
Bro when did you get the pythons?
Cant wait to see the car hauling videos.
Listen to the Willis Brothers song "give me 40 acres and I'll turn this rig around." That applies to you guys!
I feel like an explanation to each driver about how that transmission works beyond, “you don’t have to clutch” while that may be true, there’s a lot more to a shift than that.
You guys did great! Looks like Randy did better with shifting, but Joe did better with the trailer. Makes me look forward to getting my CDL. Loving the new rig as well! God bless - Everett
If you're serious about getting your cdl, start learning the pre trip script now.... It was save you alot of headache come school time, not trying to absorb all the info on top of memorizing that stupid ass pre trip script. Each state is a little different, and I'm sure you can find a pdf of an example for your state. I got to the point where I was reciting it in my head all day long at work, in the shower.... every little bit of practice helps, and once you pass your cdl test, you will never have to do that god awful pre trip again.
That's a good idea! I will do that. Thank you and God bless - Everett
@@Jarl_Thidrandi A pre-trip inspection is required at the beginning of every shift and anytime you change equipment. With the state of fleet equipment {poor maintenance} not pre-tripping is a dereliction of your duty to public safety.
I have found; leaking hubs, bad tires {insufficient treads,delaminating retreads}, missing mudflaps, dragging brakes, leaking brakes, even had one that had been driven 200+ miles to that location with the u-bolts that held the trailer axle to the springs loose{took over one half hour with a torch and pneumatic wrench to tighten} and the everpresent malfunctioning lights.
At one time I was responsible for taking the tractors to the local shop for maintenance. One idiots tractor was 2 gallons below the add line on oil. He blamed it on the daytime driver who probably drove a max of 80 miles a day, whilst he drove 500. These 2 lunched 2 engines the second of which 2 pistons came out in multiple pieces.
So there is a reason to pre-trip after passing your cdl, unless you like sitting at an inspection station waiting for a mechanic {getting points against your DOT record}.
Good way to learn. At cdl school you will have a bunch of people looking and the instructor yelling 😂
I knew how to not use the clutch in passenger vehicles before I learned the big trucks when I was 20. My brother taught me the big trucks, driving OTR. First thing was changing seats while on the highway at speed. Then after I got used to the size of the tractor trailer I began maneuvers. The good ol days with just a Chauffeur license. 👍
Joe is a natural. He make a great driver with some good instruction and training.
I bought a 35 foot school bus without any experience.
The test drive was on a WIDE dirt road, thank God, and it was terrifying.
After a few miles on the interstate in the pouring rain I was good.
You just have to remember it’s a wide, long vehicle.
Should do that whole course in a sleeper truck, that would be the real challenge.
with a 53
Give them a super 10, just to mess with them more.
Now cover the back window and only use Your mirrors for backing and not the rear window
I actually did my drivers test in a cascadia sleeper with a 53ft trailer i had to back up straight parallel park and do the offset parking.
that looked so fun! i'd love to try out something like that : ) I can drive a stick shift, but i've never driven a trailer. I have always kind of wanted to try driving a rig! Awesome video ARV!
Gotta remember it's not quite like a car stick shift since it's non synchronized. You need to match engine speed to wheel speed on every shift.
Sounds harder than it is though
And no 2 trucks shift exactly the same. They are all a little different
@@Redbikemaster It is a synchronized transmission. Try floating the gears on your synchronized cars transmission without matching revs. None of you have likely driven a straight cut transmission.
@@TomTerrific-vm3qg if you have to rev match, it's not synchronized. That's the entire point of synchros. "Straight cut" is an entirely different unrelated term. It refers to the teeth of the gears themselves. It has nothing to do with synchronization.
Semi trucks generally don't have synchronized transmissions. If they did, they wouldn't require either floating or double-clutching. They'd shift like a manual car.
Yup.......I can see it now....."Rural Vermonter Tractor Training School".....good part time job for you...the average Joe's did great..........👍👍
Thank you for doing this Driver Test Drive. Fun watching them, not paying attention to RPM. On my 1971 SeaGrave Fire Engine 🚒 there is a RED marker on RPM gage. If You can raise RPM to 2000+ and shift when RPM falls to that RED marker at 1500 I drops in gear every time. Down shift Rev up RPM double clutch and shift as RPM drops to 1500. The Power plant on SeaGrave is a 8V-71 Detroit Diesel, the transmission is a Dana/ Spicer, I have done an overhaul on the transmission and worked on the slave clutch. The only thing left to make the gear shifter better is replace pins in its shaft to transmission,
My boss took me approximately 3miles from the yard to the highway. Said that's your training, now get this to Yuma. Driving a old Diamond Rio. Keep in mind I'd been driving standards all my life but not a semi, I missed 1 gear exiting the highway but found the next gear. The rest is history. Been driving semi truck now for 40+ yrs. Back in the day most all vehicles were standards & as long as the vehicle had keys in the ignition I could drive it.
Keep in mind , moving a vehicle any vehicle/ semi can be done. But actually driving a Semi takes yrs of experience. The age old saying
I can drive a truck, but I'm not a truck driver. I'm now a Semi Driver.
If you can't find 'em, grind 'em😂😂
That's why it's not really a great idea to teach a person to drive a standard without using the clutch. Just because you can do it doesn't mean that you should.
easier to learn than double clutching in my opinion. Can’t just use the clutch regularly since it’s not synchronized and there’s a clutch brake
Nice Video smarts about the driving course and NOT on the road. Learn to Double Clutch it is on Driving Test for CDL. Good explaining on how to FLOAT a great or shifting with our using clutch.
I never learned. I went to test and the instructor couldn't say I didn't have to but said he never did so I floated. So really depends on the instructor you test with.
Randy was not gonna run💀💀💀💀
Randy don’t get paid enough for that
First dude did pretty well honestly! I've seen new drivers who have practiced WAY more and can't shift that well! Second guy did really good too! His setups for his reverses were better than the first guy. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. Fun video!
Great video... thanks to you & good sports Joe & Randy for posting! You really are having fun. Beautiful day in VT too.
The guy running ahead of the truck is the real MVP along with the transmission in that Volvo 😂
As long as you have no major medical problems inherited or found out years later- THEN THE AGENDA DRIVEN CORPORATE/POLITICIAN GREED KICKS IN AND you are forced out of it and have to take a $25000 a year job.
flashbacks to summers at Melanson Roofing in the early 90's parking crane trucks with tag trailers.
"Can You Drive A Semi Truck With No Training?" then you train him. lol
He’s “a little violent” 😂 this is so funny bro
Credit to your friends for trying this!! Very impressive
As a farm boy, that's actually how I learned to drive a truck in the eighties . Boss said follow me . I hopped in and away I went . I later went out west to a truck driving school call called transport careers. I took my class A test in El cajon California in 1985. I got 100 percent.
When you showed them the course and you were backing it in at the end…No looking thru the back window!😂🤣 that’s a mark off lol
I'm thoroughly impressed by Joes performance, bravo.
That looks like fun -- I'd pay you $10 to do this, no bet needed! Amusingly, it reminds me of the time years back when I was driving a friend's manual-transmission Acura after being used to my full-size Ford truck. It took me quite a while to get used to shifting gears on a high-revving low-torque sports engine!
Great video! A lot of laughs! That Volvo is one of the easiest to drive! When I took my road test for my Cdl lic. back in 1984 I used a KW w900 with a twin stick and manual steering. Now that was a truck! Most drivers today could not drive. But that made me a better driver even after I drove most of the time was trucks with 13 speed road rangers!
Ugh that grinding hurts my soul. Keep those RPMs up mannnnn
As a 32 year crane operator and chief justice of the Supreme Court I really enjoyed this.
If you cant find it. Grind it. Lets goooo
that was cool watching regular joes drive a semi for the first time..
I haven't finished watching the video yet and I'm already scared! I wouldn't even bet, I don't think I'd even want to try to drive that without training. Yikes!!!
That last part is what I call amateur boat ramp Olympics.
As a trucker I've joked I could make some easy money sitting at a boat ramp offering to back people's trailers up
I grew up on a farm and was driving semi in the field when I was 11. Dad let me drive semi on the road around 14 but I was driving farm tractors with 40 ft field cultivators on the road for years before that .
how do you drive a trailer lol
If ya can’t find em grind em lmao , 30 years spent driving semis most in city and heavy traffic , enjoyed this immensely.
This is the most wholesome content on RUclips
The only thing I would say is, 99% of the time I don’t bother with 1st gear. If I’ve got a heavy load and I’m pointing uphill, then I’ll start in first, otherwise it’s 2nd gear from a dead stop.
Truck driving isn’t easy at first but you can learn decently quick
Been awhile since I drove a 10-speed, but the first truck I ever drove professionally was a gas job Ford with a five and four transmission (that’s with two sticks). It takes a little time to learn. I currently drive logging trucks with the best transmission, the 18- speed.
Great video.
You knew what you were talking about when I saw you drove without the clutch. lol
Only for stopping and starting 😂
I just got my HC (Semi License) after having a HR truck License for several years there are specific skills you must master to drive a semi, ie backing technique, cornering, braking, you need appropriate training/mentoring to get your license.
This reminds me of me when I was doing my CDL training in 2008. I'm sharing this with my trucker friends..
He even had them floating gears lol. I think it’s easier to double clutch when learning how to drive. Every now and then I still double clutch just so I don’t forget lol.
I just love how they ignore the hi/low range switch
I grew up on a standard shift , my first car was a standard shift , but when I got behind the wheel of a Bigfoot tractor , I couldn't figure out what was missing , all it wasn't the proper knowledge I needed and that's it , but once you got it you have it , I can truly say I love my Big Macks , 😁😁😂😂
Yes in a parking lot , LOL .. But they did pretty good!
"I got sponsors out there in the stands, and I'm huggin em and kissing em in the ear, and what do we do? We end up looking like a monkey fahking a football out there ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I tend to listen to the videos on double speed...and when he says "If my two average Joe friends" in double speed, it totally sounds like he's saying "if my two average girlfriends"....
Man I wish I had a semi
Really good for a trailer newbie.
These guys are way more qualified than the driver trainers at Western Express
I think they all done brilaint and I think they should all do the licence together.
Nice team make really good money.
I subscribed grate video
Good luck gentlemen.
Love your channel and videos your a real hustler make that money man. Great work keep up the good job.
Should have seen how they would do on a Fuller 13 speed 😂 no instructions.
2:55 do not look back through your rear window lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
I think they did pretty well you must trust your friends a lot to be driving your semi
It's a Volvo, no big loss if they kill it
Well, they already drive better than 95 % of truckers from the major companies out here !!
I think their cars should have been on trailer and more money on the line 😁😁! Can't find 'em, grind 'em!
Nice ..I learned to no-clutch within a few weeks in a 90's Volvo/ EF 10spd
Good job guys. You guys should go for your CDL too.
As a kid, i learned how to drive in a dump truck moving trucks around my Dads shop. It was absolutely the best way to learn to drive!
They all seem like nice guys just having fun.