Can't remember what PC specs i had when this parts were new. But seeing that FX and 3850 run Crysis 2 or the STALKER banchmark brings a nostalgic feeling. Thanks for the video.
SledgeHammer+SK8N was a dream back in 2003. Something misterious. First desktop x64, integrated MC. A piece of new future. And a piece of "serious" high-end workstation/server platform on desktop sector
Beautiful system, I'm so jealous! Always loved those ceramic Socket 940 chips, they're so heavy compared to the regular 754 and 939 ones! Built a lot of computers with Socket 940 Opterons working for a computer shop back in the day, but I never had one :'-(
Ah drop everything and enjoy Retro hardware video, excellent timing. I would like to get some socket Athlon 64 AGP system, but on my local market it's always the same low end AM2 PCI-E stuff.
It amuses me tremendously, how every time HL2 episode 1 is featured on a build, it always starts with Kleiner's call to _get busy_ in the name of survival. XD Amusingly I have a similar machine to this as my primary Windows 98se machine; using an X850 XT, due to driver limitations. Nforce 3 is a blessing for a screamer of a Win9x project for sure.
Great! I have Athlon 64 X2, Asus A8V Deluxe, Radeon 3850 AGP, SB X-Fi... AND for DOS/Win98SE -use ESS SOLO-1 and Voodoo3 PCI. I would say that is an ultimate all-arounder.
That system should have no problem with running windows 98 if you needed to. I have not had an agp athlon 64 system in my collection, only pci-e. i have resorted to using an intel P4 setup for my win98 build. Support on the 865 chipset is suprisingly good for 98. Though video cards are a little different matter. Right now I am on a 9700 nonpro.
@@wishusknight3009 Yes, I'm triple booting Win98SE & DOS, Windows XP and Windows 10 :) Win10 just for fun, it's slow and very old version because they dropped AGP support years ago. Maybe I'll ditch Win10 and install Windows 7.
@@djpirtu2 Windows 7 would kind of work ok with agp. But Vista would have much better driver support. And if you tweak it up a bit its performance is just fine. But that sounds like a pretty decent layout there! I went the route of using a couple different systems to be a bit more purpose built, but I have as much fun with the hardware as I do the software and games. I have an E8400 system I use for my XP build. Though I also have a hardrive configured with XP on my "ultimate 98" box too. But have rarely used it. I also have a period correct 98 system that is a P2 450 and v2 sli... and funny enough I much prefer using it over the other machines. Or my P100 which can also do everything from dos to early win98 stuff.
@@wishusknight3009 My main rig is Abit KT7A & Athlon XP-M Barton, Radeon X800Pro, GUS, ESS SOLO-1, Audigy2. 146GB WD Raptor (with PCI-SATA controller) and 768MB RAM. Running full speed @2,1GHz with 150MHz FSB. It's best thing is one ISA-slot (for GUS) and possibility to control CPU speed on-the-fly. In DOS I can set FSB and CPU multiplier or disable CPU cache so speed sensitive stuff is no problem.
Ahoj Kamarat. Pokial mas vodu dakde na doske atp, vytri papierovou vreckovkou/servitkou ako si urobil a "prestriekni" 99 percentnym isopropylom. Ten vytlacuje vodu a dostane sa do tazko pristupnych miest odkial sa voda tazko odparuje alebo je nemozne ju dostat prec mechanicky. Inako skvela robota :)
A video card is as big as a motherboard, I proposed the concept of replaceable chips and memory on video cards 13 years ago, as well as on a motherboard, in order to upgrade video cards.
That is a pretty dang decent overclock. I don't think there is much more that you could squeeze out of it, short of using nitrogen. I wonder if a motherboard with stronger vrm? but at that voltage you are pretty much at the limits.
Less memory sticks reduces the burden on the memory controller and improves stability. The motherboard is limited to dual channel so 2 sticks gives the maximum performance though memory rank is sometimes worth considering.
@@brodatelc Yep how they said. Of course I tried 4x modules but it was unstable around 2.6 GHz. And 4GB total is quite pointless for gaming or benchmarks on this HW. Almost no difference.
@@RETROHardware I have a plan to put together a retro 462 socket but I will see what will come out of it. For now, I have capacitors on the motherboard to replace
I have a Athlon 64 x2 6400+ in a nice MSI Platinum board....but can't figure out how to flash the BIOS. Wish I had someone local to me who does Retro Hardware a bit better than me.
Brácho co používáš ba deoxidaci kontaktů a plošnejch spojů? Kontaktol? Zrovna jsem ho objednal na 754ku, pípá to ram error ale moduly jsou ok, prescott je bere
Great video. Would love to also see You mod the 3850. I have the same card and with pencil voltage mods could get 823mhz on the core and 951 on the memory. I seem to remember pushing it to 891mhz but can't find the screenshots anywhere. I Had a Pentium M equipped Asus P4P800 deluxe back in the day, that cpu was the most powerful single core chip around but of course the 3850 was severely bottlenecked by it.
Very nice. I still have my Pentium M gaming machine with Radeon 3850 that I build myself in a custom made extremely compact case that I occasionaly use for retro-gaming but it's build on a very rare MATX AOpen mobo on mobile 855 chipset. What's cool the board allows overclocking, mine is running 2.66GHz@166MHz bus, it is stable up to 2.8 but I see no point pushing vintage hardware even further. Also I've modded my 3850 to be completely silent at idle by tuning the bios to stop fans which are also custom. Very nice machine, I'm actually proud of it. Oh yeah, and I fitted the 2.5" VelociRaptor 10K HDD to fit the compact beasty nature of the build. It was originally build with lanparties in mind when they were a thing. The machine itself weights under 4lbs and can be carried in a backpack.
I'm sure you can get higher valids with XOC mode on and pressing F7, modern CPU-Z is really heavy on the cpu otherwise... Allso mem needs some tweaking, the chip deserves C2 :)
I tried F7 too + other CPUZ versions during 4 days I was playing with this CPU but all ended +/- at 2.9. Nothing more possible to validate. I tried up to 18x multi :-) This is not CPU Max. FSB is no problem, I can do high/low FSB with similar results 2.8 - 2.9. Limit is propably CPU voltage or chipset ... should be nice to try this CPU in SK8V with VIA chipset but I dont have this MB.
@@RETROHardware I am suspecting the VRM's are the weakpoint. You can go as high as 1.85v on that cpu as well if i remember right. And your kryogen should be able to handle that. But 2.9 is still really good!
@@wishusknight3009 max in BIOS is 1.75V ... more only with voltmod, yep 1.9 still can be good for a while and validation without full load in benchs ... but result is good no stress around :-)
@@RETROHardware Yeah, you are right. I bet you could break 3.0 with a stronger board, but why risk that iconic cpu.. The most I ever saw on air or water was 2.6. And it was pouring the heat out like mad. I could only imagine what kind of wattage its consuming at 3ghz and 1.9 volts, I bet greater than 250 watts.
Very impressive. I'm surprised how conservative you are with insulation compared to ln2, dice, or chilled water set ups. Have you tried thick insulating foam around the socket before?
Huh didn't know socket 940 had agp slotted motherboards too. And wew that vrm was not particularly big thankfully the chiller cooling the cpu makes it pull less power despite pushing higher clock speeds & voltages. (Too a certain point at least.)
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Can't remember what PC specs i had when this parts were new. But seeing that FX and 3850 run Crysis 2 or the STALKER banchmark brings a nostalgic feeling. Thanks for the video.
I had an FX 55, that cooler and a bunch of different graphics cards. That was my favourite era of gaming.
Since I found your channel I started my retro hardware collection and today this is one of my favorite pastimes. Thanks for the inspiration.
That Athlon 64 in a ceramic package was pretty cool to see.
Skvělá nostalgie,tuhle kartu jsem měl kdysi také,poslední nádech pro mou desku s AGP slotem a Pentiem 4,díky za video.
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SledgeHammer+SK8N was a dream back in 2003. Something misterious. First desktop x64, integrated MC. A piece of new future. And a piece of "serious" high-end workstation/server platform on desktop sector
Last AGP card was HD 3850, super rare
It's not rare actually. And the last AGP card is HD 4670.
@@SharpShoot3r_14 last i mean the fast, and depend on the market is very rare
Beautiful system, I'm so jealous! Always loved those ceramic Socket 940 chips, they're so heavy compared to the regular 754 and 939 ones! Built a lot of computers with Socket 940 Opterons working for a computer shop back in the day, but I never had one :'-(
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed watching it till the end. Deeply nostalgic. 🙏
Excellent! I still have a Powercolor 3850 running in my x6 Phenom box.
nice tribute to the world most powerful (I think) CPU of 2003!
Babe, a new Retro Hardware video just dropped!
Let's see some more crazy hardware unboxing and testing!
Ah drop everything and enjoy Retro hardware video, excellent timing.
I would like to get some socket Athlon 64 AGP system, but on my local market it's always the same low end AM2 PCI-E stuff.
Thanks for pinup and yet another great video !
Nice build. I still have a PowerColor HD 3850, but with the black heatsink!
It amuses me tremendously, how every time HL2 episode 1 is featured on a build, it always starts with Kleiner's call to _get busy_ in the name of survival. XD
Amusingly I have a similar machine to this as my primary Windows 98se machine; using an X850 XT, due to driver limitations. Nforce 3 is a blessing for a screamer of a Win9x project for sure.
Much enjoyed, once again! Thank you
Great! I have Athlon 64 X2, Asus A8V Deluxe, Radeon 3850 AGP, SB X-Fi... AND for DOS/Win98SE -use ESS SOLO-1 and Voodoo3 PCI. I would say that is an ultimate all-arounder.
That system should have no problem with running windows 98 if you needed to. I have not had an agp athlon 64 system in my collection, only pci-e. i have resorted to using an intel P4 setup for my win98 build. Support on the 865 chipset is suprisingly good for 98. Though video cards are a little different matter. Right now I am on a 9700 nonpro.
@@wishusknight3009 Yes, I'm triple booting Win98SE & DOS, Windows XP and Windows 10 :) Win10 just for fun, it's slow and very old version because they dropped AGP support years ago. Maybe I'll ditch Win10 and install Windows 7.
@@djpirtu2 Windows 7 would kind of work ok with agp. But Vista would have much better driver support. And if you tweak it up a bit its performance is just fine. But that sounds like a pretty decent layout there! I went the route of using a couple different systems to be a bit more purpose built, but I have as much fun with the hardware as I do the software and games.
I have an E8400 system I use for my XP build. Though I also have a hardrive configured with XP on my "ultimate 98" box too. But have rarely used it. I also have a period correct 98 system that is a P2 450 and v2 sli... and funny enough I much prefer using it over the other machines. Or my P100 which can also do everything from dos to early win98 stuff.
@@wishusknight3009 My main rig is Abit KT7A & Athlon XP-M Barton, Radeon X800Pro, GUS, ESS SOLO-1, Audigy2. 146GB WD Raptor (with PCI-SATA controller) and 768MB RAM. Running full speed @2,1GHz with 150MHz FSB. It's best thing is one ISA-slot (for GUS) and possibility to control CPU speed on-the-fly. In DOS I can set FSB and CPU multiplier or disable CPU cache so speed sensitive stuff is no problem.
Ahoj Kamarat. Pokial mas vodu dakde na doske atp, vytri papierovou vreckovkou/servitkou ako si urobil a "prestriekni" 99 percentnym isopropylom. Ten vytlacuje vodu a dostane sa do tazko pristupnych miest odkial sa voda tazko odparuje alebo je nemozne ju dostat prec mechanicky.
Inako skvela robota :)
Neni kam spechat :-) Ono se to odpari docela rychle, protoze zespodu je vyhrivani, ktere jeste dojizdi.
I love pc hardware from 1996 to 2007
I also used a Radeon HD 3850 AGP (Sapphire brand) on my Windows XP rig paired with an Intel E5800, Asrock 775i65G R2.0 and 2GB of RAM.
7:32 Possessed VRM
nice video ! 🔥
LOVE ITS CHANNEL
does hw dies after freon?
how you have this old cpu / gpu / motherboard / smps?
A video card is as big as a motherboard, I proposed the concept of replaceable chips and memory on video cards 13 years ago, as well as on a motherboard, in order to upgrade video cards.
That is a pretty dang decent overclock. I don't think there is much more that you could squeeze out of it, short of using nitrogen. I wonder if a motherboard with stronger vrm? but at that voltage you are pretty much at the limits.
How to download these games?
why did you pull out the ram for overclocking
more stable OC and better chance to higher OC
Less memory sticks reduces the burden on the memory controller and improves stability. The motherboard is limited to dual channel so 2 sticks gives the maximum performance though memory rank is sometimes worth considering.
@@Ironclad17 Ok :) Thank You
@@brodatelc Yep how they said. Of course I tried 4x modules but it was unstable around 2.6 GHz. And 4GB total is quite pointless for gaming or benchmarks on this HW. Almost no difference.
@@RETROHardware I have a plan to put together a retro 462 socket but I will see what will come out of it. For now, I have capacitors on the motherboard to replace
those 4x1gb. nice touch
I would love to find a working HD3850 Agp for my socket 939 Athlon FX60 based build. There are so hard to find, especially at non idiotic prices.
Yeah they were almost squarely aimed at the enthusiast upgrade market. Thankfully most of them have stuck around but they have been horded.
It's the nforce version of my SK8V :D
I think this cooler powered by a refrigerator motor is really cool :D
When you get water in your socket next time just use hair dryer.
15-20 minutes usually get rid off all residue water left on board.
Of course :-) Iam not speeding here, it is fun. I need time to think about next steps, different settings.
Amazing.
I have a Athlon 64 x2 6400+ in a nice MSI Platinum board....but can't figure out how to flash the BIOS. Wish I had someone local to me who does Retro Hardware a bit better than me.
Does the system post at all? or misdetect the cpu? Where abouts you at?
that's the fastest AGP setup for sure
Not exactly. There are Dual 940 Opteron boards with AGP, there are Phenom boards and early Core2 AGP-based stuff as well.
Brácho co používáš ba deoxidaci kontaktů a plošnejch spojů? Kontaktol? Zrovna jsem ho objednal na 754ku, pípá to ram error ale moduly jsou ok, prescott je bere
lih
@@RETROHardware díx
7:14 I bet AGP Bridge is above 90C
I may have the unpopular opinion here, but I think half life 2 is still a damn good looking game.
Old pc 🥺
Need for speed and left 4 dead... 🤤
Is it strongest ddr pc with agp gpu?😅
Ого 😦)))
Great video. Would love to also see You mod the 3850. I have the same card and with pencil voltage mods could get 823mhz on the core and 951 on the memory. I seem to remember pushing it to 891mhz but can't find the screenshots anywhere. I Had a Pentium M equipped Asus P4P800 deluxe back in the day, that cpu was the most powerful single core chip around but of course the 3850 was severely bottlenecked by it.
Would that have used a cpu interposer?
Very nice. I still have my Pentium M gaming machine with Radeon 3850 that I build myself in a custom made extremely compact case that I occasionaly use for retro-gaming but it's build on a very rare MATX AOpen mobo on mobile 855 chipset. What's cool the board allows overclocking, mine is running 2.66GHz@166MHz bus, it is stable up to 2.8 but I see no point pushing vintage hardware even further. Also I've modded my 3850 to be completely silent at idle by tuning the bios to stop fans which are also custom. Very nice machine, I'm actually proud of it. Oh yeah, and I fitted the 2.5" VelociRaptor 10K HDD to fit the compact beasty nature of the build. It was originally build with lanparties in mind when they were a thing. The machine itself weights under 4lbs and can be carried in a backpack.
I'm sure you can get higher valids with XOC mode on and pressing F7, modern CPU-Z is really heavy on the cpu otherwise... Allso mem needs some tweaking, the chip deserves C2 :)
I tried F7 too + other CPUZ versions during 4 days I was playing with this CPU but all ended +/- at 2.9. Nothing more possible to validate. I tried up to 18x multi :-)
This is not CPU Max. FSB is no problem, I can do high/low FSB with similar results 2.8 - 2.9.
Limit is propably CPU voltage or chipset ... should be nice to try this CPU in SK8V with VIA chipset but I dont have this MB.
@@RETROHardware I am suspecting the VRM's are the weakpoint. You can go as high as 1.85v on that cpu as well if i remember right. And your kryogen should be able to handle that. But 2.9 is still really good!
@@wishusknight3009 max in BIOS is 1.75V ... more only with voltmod, yep 1.9 still can be good for a while and validation without full load in benchs ... but result is good no stress around :-)
@@RETROHardware Yeah, you are right. I bet you could break 3.0 with a stronger board, but why risk that iconic cpu..
The most I ever saw on air or water was 2.6. And it was pouring the heat out like mad. I could only imagine what kind of wattage its consuming at 3ghz and 1.9 volts, I bet greater than 250 watts.
Very impressive. I'm surprised how conservative you are with insulation compared to ln2, dice, or chilled water set ups. Have you tried thick insulating foam around the socket before?
For short-time runs it is OK. For daily use is different way with asphalt or plasticine stuff.
Muito bom 👏
Zalman rulZ !!!
Your thermal paste application "technique" made me angry lol
Huh didn't know socket 940 had agp slotted motherboards too.
And wew that vrm was not particularly big thankfully the chiller cooling the cpu makes it pull less power despite pushing higher clock speeds & voltages. (Too a certain point at least.)
You're Posting Videos Too Late Dude
cool, you got the good hd 3850 agp, with it's nice copper heatsink!