Tales of the Empire Raises some BIG Questions!
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Tales of the Empire has been announced and I think there's a lot to learn from Tales of the Jedi- Barriss and Morgan's stories will potentially reflect Ahsoka and Dooku.
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Do you think Barriss' "final test" might be to kill Luminara? We know the Inquisitorius got her, and while the line is played with a duel happening, that would be very easy to edit. Plus, killing your master is like THE big Dark Side test.
That’s a good point
Luminara was killed during Order 66. The test would be to kill the other candidate who we see in the trailer.
That would be epic and very reminiscent of the swtor sith warrior story with noman karr
@mightheal she was actually executed in the Spire prison in, and the Grand Inquisitor said he was there to see it.
I like the idea that Luminara plays a role. I would love it if the end of Barriss's story is trying to *save* Luminara, with the obvious dramatic irony that we know it's only going to get them both killed, but it would be a genuinely redemptive *attempt* from Barriss, because I don't think she becomes an Inquisitor. I feel like we'd have seen her in other media depicting them by now if that was the plan for her character.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Grievous just looks fcking terrifying. I loved his design in the last season of clone wars even though we got to see it for a few seconds. He looks so menacing, can’t wait to see what he’ll end up doing.
Grievous shot in season 7 was the only good TWC grievous we got. Sadly, i dont think this show will change any of that
In my head, I imagined that Barriss would have been a replacement for Ventress as an apprentice to Dooku. Dooku could have tempted her to join the Dark Side, pointing out flaws he too noticed with the Jedi. And once Dooku was killed, Barriss would have served as a Hand to Sidious himself alongside Mara Jade.
For Morgan, I imagined she and Merin would have escaped Dathomir during the Massacre and Thrawn would have rescued them. Morgan would have sworn her allegiance to Thrawn while Merin would return to Dathomir. I'm interested to see how close my ideas were. This is awesome!! Can't wait!
The Barriss part of TOTE might be my fave.
Barriss' story could end here with a redemption and/or death. However, if she doesn't I could see her being a primary antagonist in that rumored Ventress series (which I think is a bit more likely now that Tales isn't focusing on her, and the voice has already teased more)
The problem with Ventress and Elsbeth meeting is that Ventress knows that both sides were puppeteered by one person, I have trouble seeing Elsbeth staying loyal to the empire knowing that they are not separate from the separatists and therefore not innocent of the Dathomiry genocide.
Long live the empire!!!
I was so excited watching this. It looks amazing.
The Night Sister Sickles are Cool. Imagine those, but instead of Green Night Sister Fire, you have Red or Purple or Blu Sith Lighting. Then you have the Weapons of The Hunters of Night.
Rebels did not have the same animation style as this
Maybe it's just semantics but Rebels had a different artstyle, but the animation style was pretty much the same imo.
@@tTaseric art style is part of animation style
@@jackbmh2320 Not really. and even if it were, Rebels' artstyle wasn't really THAT far off from the clone wars style anyway, in comparison to other 3D animated shows.
I would prefer more Young Dooku or some High Republic stories.
But I may be biased, beacuse Rebellion era (or it's Reign of Empire in Canon I think) is fully packed in head canon, beacuse of years of RPG campaigns ;)
Barriss OH-FEE? It's OFF-EE!!! >:(
The announcement notice that I'm reading on the star wars site does not call this Tales of the Jedi season 2 just a new series in the style of Tales of the Jedi.
Honestly, if it's a separate series, love another for the Republic side like for the clones, senators, admirals and so on, also for the separate side too, so yeah
Man when are we going to get Star Wars set in an interesting era again? I'm sick of the period around the films. Go Old Republic again, or far future.
Maybe it'll go the other way ... I mean, what we've seen so far of Morgan I get an overall feeling of a tragic hero rather than a true villain. A big theme of Darth Vader's tragic story is that everything he was tricked into trying to protect, he ended up destroying. But Morgan? She did it all for her people, and as far as we can see so far, she succeeded in her central goal.
Yeah, but she ruined that first planet we see her on without any regard for its locals. I don't think she'll be a hero in any sense, but I get your point. She'll definitely be a representation of becoming the thing you hate.
@@shadowtrooper3764 I'd say that that just shows how focused her purpose is. She cares about her people and whatever it takes for them, and screw anyone else...
...but you have a point. I don't know that Morgan started off that way.
Maybe in her first story we'll see that she was originally a naive idealist who was trying to help others - not just her own.
First story chronologically that is. If this is the direction they go in, it would be particularly moving to show her story backwards. That way, we'd only see how far she fell from at the end.
It wouldn't surprise if they are (or were) planning another Tales series for the "middle-ground" of Jedi and Empire, focusing on Ventress and Baylan. There seems to be plenty of room for connection and contrast there like how they handled Ahsoka and Dooku.
YES!! That would be amazing! There is definitely another series coming featured Ventress. It must be a sequel to Clone Wars and Bad Batch and I CANNOT WAIT
Is it wrong that after I saw the trailer that I also want a Tales of the Separatists now?
We know already know about them in The Clone Wars!
A Grevious backstory arc and showing him as a Kaleesh would be sick
@@shadowtrooper3764Yeah! You are 100% right about that! I hadn't thought of that!
I kind of wish that a tales of the empire show would be closer to that "agent of the empire" c0mic anout an imperial james bond doing good within in the system. More lightsabers is abit of a letdown at thos point.
Omg finally 😭 I've been praying for an update on barris for like years now
I hope we get tales of the Rebellion with Luke, Leia, Han and rest of the OG trilogy characters in TCW and maybe we'll see Luke meeting Ahsoka and Rex for the first time.
I wonder if Ahsoka ran into Barriss as an inquisitor at some point. That would be emotional.
If Bariss doesn't die in this they NEED to meet each other again.
@@gavinsmith9871 Yeah if she doesn't die she'll be in Ahsoka season 2 or the Mando and Grogu movie.
Wouldn’t that put Ahsoka as the killer of Inquisitors? With the smoke inquisitor and Marrok, possibly Sixth brother if he’s different from the smoke inquisitor, and she helped kill the Eight and Fifth brothers too so if she runs into and kills Barriss she’d be the ultimate Inquisitor killer
@@Zombotron5678 Ironic. She and Vader have the most Inquisitor kills between them.
@@gavinsmith9871 What about Maul?
I feel like your observation about Bariss likely taking a contrasting role to Morgan is a good one- I've been saying for years that it doesn't really add up for Barriss to have become an inquisitor- we've seen *quite a bit* of the Inquisition across different canon media, with so many opportunities for Barriss to show up as one of them, or even just to be featured in the background as a cameo, that I figured she had to have ended up on some sort of different path- that we'd have seen her by now if she became an Inquisitor. It's not like her imprisonment happened IRL after the Imperial Inquisition was created for Rebels or anything- people thought/hoped that 7th Sister was Barriss from the moment we first saw her! But there wasn't any other clear path for her besides execution, and that would be kinda boring.
Then the trailer drops, and it seems to be pointing towards her as an Inquisitor, and it still feels off, but I didn't realize the obvious answer- She says no. These 3 episodes aren't going be the story of Barriss becoming an Inquisitor, they're the story of Barriss, for all her flaws and failings, *refusing* to be one, and almost certainly dying for it. That feels like a short, but interesting story that does something interesting with the character, and lines up with the fact that we've never seen any sign of her since her trial in The Clone Wars.
As for Tales of the Jedi Season 2- I would *guess* that this is S2, that we're going to get more "Tales of the X" series in the future, but that S1 won't be the last one titled "Tales of the Jedi", just because there are so many more stories they could tell in that vein. I think they'll come back to it. Though I think we're likely to see a "Tales of the Bounty Hunters" with the confirmed-alive Ventress, before we get back to Tales of the Jedi. She feels like a perfect fit for this sort of vignette anthology series to flesh out her character and what she's doing during the last weeks of the Clone Wars and into the Imperial Era.
Barriss doing anything other than firmly rejecting the Empire the first chance she gets wouldn't make sense to me. Whether she actively joins the Rebellion after that... I've got not clue. Hopefully she at least gets some therapy.
I just hope they don't go down the route of 'death = redemption'. SW does that too much IMO. Having Barriss grapple with and take responsibility for her actions would be a much more interesting arc.
Oooo what if vadar ends barriss in revenge for ashoka but then gets punished by paletine for his connection to Ashoka lasting.
I really don't care about everything anymore.
Star Wars died with the TCW Movie. The rest is history 😅
ok
Well at least we have some Star wars that not Piece of Dumpster Fire
What do you do you mean by "not Piece of Dumpster Fire"? Do you have any exemple?
@@SuperPlacido1Sequel trilogy, Kenobi, BoBF, Mandalorian s3, Ahsoka plot wise + the newer comics are a hot mess.
I personally haven't enjoyed SW since Andor
@@gohu11 What do you mean by "Ahsoka plot wise"?
@@SuperPlacido1 the plot in the Ahsoka show is written by a 10 year old
@@gohu11 Even if you don't like it, be respectful! Dave and the whole team behind the series work hard for us! Personally, I loved the first season! The actors play their characters very well, in my opinion! Kevin's music was excellent as always! The sets are really magnificent! The movements behind the attacks are really well done! What didn't you like about the first season's scenario?
Am not following the hype (says something that I'm instead binging on Justice League Unlimited, Ojamajo Doremi, and CLANNAD instead as of this writing) but if it means tying up those loose ends even if imperfectly... *thou shalt pass, but only time will tell if you'll end up staying worthwhile, oh strange miniseries.*
I also thought that the chance of a Ventress show is higher now that we have Tales of the Empire. It looks cool, I really enjoyed Tales of the Jedi and will be looking forward to this one. I'm glad it's coming out soon after Bad Batch finishes because I'll need something to distract myself from being sad over the end of BB.
Love to see another series call "Tales of the Republic" to tell the perspective of the Republic side of story, like from the Clones, senate, Republic admirals and officers before they become imperial officers in the original trilogies, council, anyone in the Clone Wars series or any prequel story between Ep1 to Ep3 and beyond tbh, also ones from the Separatist side as well, so yeah