This Card is Secretly BANNED in the Vintage Cube!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • Hullbreacher is one of my favorite cards to play with in Legacy, and while it was legal during Supreme Drafts of the Vintage Cube, it was also a ton of fun to play with. I hope they put this bad boy back into the normal Vintage Cube list someday soon :(
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Комментарии • 76

  • @TheGoldenHorncall
    @TheGoldenHorncall Год назад +236

    Cube doesn’t have banned cards, it just has cards they chose not to include. The concept of banning doesn’t make sense when you’re talking about limited

    • @JazzOfTheStinson
      @JazzOfTheStinson Год назад +6

      I mean whats the difference if the end result is exactly the same?

    • @BigPapaGanda
      @BigPapaGanda Год назад +3

      ​@@JazzOfTheStinson i mean, i think his point is more something like to ban a card from a limited set is frivolous, due to the format. Technically, Hullbreacher is banned in inistrad block cubes, but you'd never say it was due to power levels.
      I get the point of what this video is saying, though. Hullbreacher is a vintage and legacy staple that /should/ be fine in the cube environment, but due to power reasons, they refuse to put it in for fun reasons. Hullbreacher was a mistake.

    • @djspyke1000
      @djspyke1000 Год назад

      ​@@JazzOfTheStinsonbecause they csn include, they just dont want too. While banned means that its... banned

  • @loxeggcheese
    @loxeggcheese Год назад +42

    banned refers to cards you can’t include in a constructed deck. The vintage cube changes each time it’s on mtgo and the ppl in charge decide which cards to include with each iteration. There are over 20k cards in magic not included in the the vintage cube and probably several hundred that have at once been in and later removed for various reasons. The current curator of the vintage cube was on LR recently if you want some invite to the direction of the most recent cube

  • @patricksallee1684
    @patricksallee1684 Год назад +14

    Hullbreacher did nothing wrong

  • @isaiahcaudill277
    @isaiahcaudill277 Год назад +4

    Hull breacher should have never been printed

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso Год назад

      Why the hell they gave him flash? That s hust a stupid idea.

    • @isaiahcaudill277
      @isaiahcaudill277 Год назад

      @@DiabloTommaso THATS WHAT IM SAYING like holy shit it's so gross

  • @MadisonM1996
    @MadisonM1996 Год назад +1

    And i was thinking you were gonna say Shahrazad

  • @crazyguyforhire
    @crazyguyforhire 4 месяца назад

    lol hullbreacher just got rotated out, it'll be back for sure at somepoint. but yeah it's a bit too broken for supreme, but supreme kinda sucks anyways

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint6703 6 месяцев назад

    Blue is super OP in supreme vintage draft. So it's not a terrible idea to include a hate card for blue. Although, to be fair, Hullbreacher is blue.

  • @Kratosauron0
    @Kratosauron0 Год назад +4

    So basically the Day's Undoing combo but in Vintage 😵‍💫

  • @DiabloTommaso
    @DiabloTommaso Год назад

    That s ok. Unfun and just op cards are not fun. The more broken an enviroment is the stronger that card gets. Bowmasters is enough

  • @hunamsafee2
    @hunamsafee2 6 месяцев назад

    Lol that about Time vault been removed way longer and honestly good riddance

  • @chedattilo
    @chedattilo 7 месяцев назад

    They didn’t ban hullbreacher from vintage cube lol.

  • @VivBrodock
    @VivBrodock Год назад +2

    there's one card so powerful they secretly banned it in vintage cube! Colossal Dreadmaw, this card is so powerful it's never even seen play in the cube.
    do you see now why the logic of your video is a bit faulty? cubes do not have banned cards, they have cards that were not included in the cube.

  • @bearwitty9690
    @bearwitty9690 8 месяцев назад

    Why is Hullbreacher good?? I don't get it.

  • @Playingwithproxies
    @Playingwithproxies Год назад

    Yeah it’s just removed from a cube not banned from cube

  • @Hamieee
    @Hamieee 8 месяцев назад

    Is dack in the power nine, and if not, why not

  • @AIMLESS-NAMELESS
    @AIMLESS-NAMELESS Год назад +1

    There’s just so much wrong here I don’t know where to start

  • @wrongwarrior3009
    @wrongwarrior3009 Год назад

    I don't think it should be banned

  • @rowanespeverda4120
    @rowanespeverda4120 Год назад +1

    This isn’t the only card that won’t show up in cube for power reasons time vault had the same issue

  • @loganowens623
    @loganowens623 Год назад +1

    absolutely deserved, hullbreacher is such a FEELS BAD card

  • @joeaquilino19
    @joeaquilino19 Год назад

    Wahhhh wahhh i cant draw 😢

  • @sarge5431
    @sarge5431 11 месяцев назад

    I hate hullbreacher

  • @ajax4709
    @ajax4709 8 месяцев назад

    “More fun” ok and how do I beat minsc and boo then

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  8 месяцев назад

      Minsc wasn't printed at the time of this story!

  • @TwoOfDee
    @TwoOfDee Год назад

    They should remove all the white cards. White is always overpowered

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  Год назад

      Whats up with you and hating white cards

    • @TwoOfDee
      @TwoOfDee Год назад

      @@IslandGoSAMe white cards are borderline cheating.

  • @kurufeemo8076
    @kurufeemo8076 8 месяцев назад

    Well, a 3 drop in this format is basically a 7 drop in standard in terms of the moment when you can play it out

  • @sablesalt
    @sablesalt Год назад

    There is a card that is even more banned that if played triggers a secret phase of the game called the irl combat step where the other player swings at you ditectly, it is called ***** *********

  • @deydy96
    @deydy96 Год назад +6

    Hullbreacher needs to burn in hell, it was legal in commander for like 2 weeks, one of the most bs card of recent times

  • @igdebubwe4521
    @igdebubwe4521 Год назад +5

    the only cards that are actually banned from being included into vintage cube are the cards that require ante to play

  • @MoNk3y8oN3
    @MoNk3y8oN3 6 месяцев назад

    Hullbreacher is banned in so many formats now 😭

  • @jeffkuykendall3189
    @jeffkuykendall3189 Год назад

    Just take out the flash and it’s a legit card…

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  Год назад

      Without flash, it might just be a worse Narset haha. It would be fine though

    • @jeffkuykendall3189
      @jeffkuykendall3189 Год назад

      @@IslandGoSAMe it’s the only reason why people cry about it.. cause it has flash… but I guess counter spells and removal don’t exist lol

  • @iankane3732
    @iankane3732 8 месяцев назад

    He's back now lol

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  8 месяцев назад

      Yeah I'm loving him in this current iteration!

  • @demonicmachina
    @demonicmachina Год назад

    Its almost like wizards dosent playtest their cards anymore 🤔🤔

  • @MoikHorst
    @MoikHorst Год назад

    wizard is just stupid. hullbreacher is now useless cause its banned everywhere

  • @WibblyWobbly1905
    @WibblyWobbly1905 Год назад

    By that logic lightning bolt is banned in standard and pioneer

  • @alessandroboscaini8424
    @alessandroboscaini8424 Год назад

    The OG shadow banned card is Time Vault…too easy to abuse

  • @Vegaschess
    @Vegaschess Год назад

    I run hullbreacher in my commander mill deck. I had it out and used peer into the abyss on a friend of mine and made like 40 treasures. I shortly won after that.

    • @sarge5431
      @sarge5431 11 месяцев назад

      Ran you ran its banned now lmao

    • @Vegaschess
      @Vegaschess 11 месяцев назад

      @@sarge5431 I play banned cards so it’s *run

  • @Morphling92
    @Morphling92 Год назад

    I like the card because it punishes greedy players. Unban cards. Include them all.

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  Год назад

      Yeah I love the super-high powered vintage cubes. My personal cube list still has hullbreacher and time vault

  • @SpitefulAZ
    @SpitefulAZ Год назад

    So Hull breacher is power 10.

  • @RPBiohazard
    @RPBiohazard Год назад

    Kids don’t even remember time vault being in the cube

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  Год назад

      I still have it in my personal vintage cube :)

  • @Seldomheardabout
    @Seldomheardabout Год назад

    I saved some videos of my supreme drafts. Super fun format.

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  Год назад

      I wish they would bring back the old version of Supreme Drafting, where you could open multiples of each card. Now once I P1P1 a Lotus, I don't get any more :(

  • @crokeyza-team7257
    @crokeyza-team7257 Год назад

    Time vault is allowed?

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 Год назад

      This card isn't actually banned. It's just not included in the vintage cube. A ton of other cards are also not included in the vintage cube.
      like Time Vault, lol

  • @xero1134
    @xero1134 8 месяцев назад

    Hull breacher is one of those cards that deserved to be "this triggers only once each turn"

    • @IslandGoSAMe
      @IslandGoSAMe  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hullbreacher's ability isn't a trigger unfortunately :(

    • @xero1134
      @xero1134 8 месяцев назад

      @@IslandGoSAMe we can change it to something else, like "if a player would draw their second card in a turn, instead ypu create a treasure token" just to get around your draw step draw

  • @tylord96
    @tylord96 Год назад

    Hullbreacher plus wheel is 6 mana and can be countered. Personally I feel like hullbreacher is great for the format and forces people to play fair magic I don’t see ho hosing a recall is seen as unfair.

    • @N4chtigall
      @N4chtigall Год назад +2

      Bro, by your logic everything is fair because it can be countered. The problem with Hullbreacher is that if you don't have an instant anwser in hand and avalible mana then you basically lost because enemy is up 7 cards and 6 treasures. Good look beating that.

    • @tylord96
      @tylord96 Год назад

      There’s literally 3 mana instant speed 2 card combos in the game that win on the spot I don’t see how 6 mana in a format like legacy is unfair when every deck is packing 12 no mana counter spells in the main

  • @g4mmalotus937
    @g4mmalotus937 Год назад +1

    Sucks that it's banned in commander too

    • @tunamako5733
      @tunamako5733 Год назад

      Still don't know why it is. The card isn't the problem, a lottt of people forget to run removal or choose to undermine it

    • @danlorett2184
      @danlorett2184 Год назад +1

      @@tunamako5733 Removal doesn't actually stop Hullbreacher from completely blowing people out

    • @N4chtigall
      @N4chtigall Год назад

      @@tunamako5733 "Still don't know why" - bro, are you for real? If it doesn't get countered/removed instantly then it's free win as soon as turn 6 because not only you have more cards than all of your opponents combined but also, you get fucking 18 treasures. Not even mentioning that the Hullbreacher player get cards into the graveyard which can synergize later. Good luck beating that. Even if you get lucky it's almost impossible. It's neither fun nor fair.

    • @S1L3NTDr460n
      @S1L3NTDr460n Год назад +1

      ​@@tunamako5733 Yeah man, just have bolt/swords/path/etc in your opening hand in a singleton format every single game, idiot. Just always have (and hold up mana for) removal for every single overpowered threat that all of your opponents play every single turn of the game, every time. Ez

    • @tunamako5733
      @tunamako5733 Год назад

      @S1L3NTDr460n don't know why we gotta start calling people names bud. It's my opinion, never said that mine was perfection. My decks always consist of 10 removal/interaction, which is why I'd be fine with it coming back.

  • @ReaperCm
    @ReaperCm Год назад

    Basically this is the perfect example.of they did not test cards before.printing, anyone with half a mind of the game would have seen this as broken immediately