Systemic Racism Exists in the USA
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Systemic racism is the creation of a lower caste of non-white Americans, separated by their economic and social circumstances, and kept in an inferior position through so-called “color blind” laws and traditions that hinder people of color more than their white counterparts. This episode will look at systemic racism placed upon black people, but the burden of America’s racist history is placed upon many more races
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"To those with privilege, equality feels like oppression"
Who’s quote is that?
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@@mikepastor.k6233 how did you derive that from that quote that has nothing to do with what is being said
If we categorize the rights that all should have as "privilege" isn't eliminating that 'privilege' eliminating rights, eg oppression?
@@apollocobain8363eliminating privelege isnt erasing the advantages certain people have, its providing those advantages to everyone.
I hope Ben Shapiro sees this video. He would learn a lot.
That implies that he can learn anything
Shapiro knows all this, his career depends on him to not agree.
He wouldn't. He has gone on record saying that he refused to accept anything his professors taught him in UNI and only went so he could use the credentials.
In other words, his entire thing is refusing to learn.
"Let's say, hypothetically, that I decide to ignore all of the facts and sources cited supporting your claims because it hurts my feelings when my baseless claims and out-of-context citations are easily refuted." - Ben Shapiro, probably
You overestimate that twat. He would watch until the first thing he disagrees with, then make an hour long reply full of conjecture to the video he didnt in fact watch
Even during King's lifetime, people took that quote out of context to excuse everything he was trying to argue against to the point that he later said his dream had become a nightmare.
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Truly a tragedy. I’m right by Selma. It’s so sad to know parts of the history and still see it blanketed by poverty and discrimination today. Not surprising once you realize how well they were able to suppress real history in our textbooks.
I'd actually make it a 3 ways split.
Institutional Racism: The US system until the 1960s. Systemic Racism: no discrimination openly written in the law, but the system is set up to be indirectly racist. Personal racism.
All you got rid of by the civil rights movement was the instututionalized one.
That's a smart way of putting it. Wish i had added an exposition of "institutional"
@@CynicalHistorian Thanks for the compliment!
I don't think it is set up to be indirectly racist. It is set up to be classist. Since black communities are disproportionately poor they are disproportionately effected. I don't see how calling the system racist is helpful in any way. It actually feels discriminate against non black people. The purpose of all of this seems to be to assert that the black communities' situation is not their fault. Again, not helpful. All people in this situation deserve aid. It also kills any thoughtful discussions on cultural norms that could improve.
@@garyjohnson8327 part of this is also because many of the poor working class whites tend to act against their own self interest based on rhetoric spouted by politicians and other "elites" to stoke fear and anger at minorities, thus perpetuating the divide. Yes it's classist, but its also racist. These can both be true at the same time.
@@garyjohnson8327 You do have a point. It is definitely not helpful to divide poor Americans. But, we know, for example from a quote from Ronald Reagans camapign strategist, lee Atwater, that the system is classist as a means to be racist as an end. He basically said (in the 80's) to cut social and eductional spending because albeit white people would be hurt by this, black people would be hurt harder. The quote is well documented. Check wikipedia about "Southern strategy"
But again, You are not wrong, lower class people of all races should unite. "Divide and impera" is how it works now.
I love how any time there's a problem in America, Reagan can be found either starting it or making it worse. It's like 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon
@MelloWattz "Now let's see what's behind all our problems. Ronald Reagan!"
@MelloWattz “and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you meddling Libs!”
It's less about Reagan and more the untethering of capitalism from social responsibility and community investment. You know, Trickle Down? In economic theory it's called Neo-liberalism, in reality it's Corporatism, which is really sanitized Fascism, but Fascism it sure as shit is. In America, both Democrats and Republicans are Neo-liberal. The logical conclusion of capitalism is the nuetering of the state and a return to fuedalism and Might makes Right. If you find that hard to swallow, it's proven, everywhere, in the managerial corporate structure. One guy runs the company. CEO has ultimate power, he delegates from there. If our avenues of domestic growth all embody authoritarianism, well, when the lion bites off your face you won't be getting sympathy.
It's worth noting that Thatcher did the exact same shit to the UK that Reagan did here, and the Tories are doing all they can to extract any wealth the working folk might still have, including buying the land out from underneath NIH hospitals and then jacking up the rents; allowing two things to occur simultaneously - making themselves wealthier - unethically of course - but then being able to scream that social medicine is bankrupting the nation. Neo-liberal media lost it's taste for investigative journalism around the death of disco, now it just wants politics to be the WWE, so the talking heads say absolutely zilch about the Tories being the cause of the crisis they're bemoaning.
In times of war all for profit media just repeats the ruling party, therefore all for profit media are essentially state run. It's unfortunate that those that have benefitted the most from our societies have bought the system and are using it to declare war against anyone not already a member of their yacht club.
The rich are a cancer. One that needs excision for the species to survive.
I mean, yes, but also Woodrow Wilson. Like... Bringing back the KKK. Screw that guy.
To be fair, Reagan was a douchebag racist.
Really glad that you made the distinction between personal and systemic racism. Ive heard a lot of people saying that racism is only racism if it is systemic, and i feel that destroys a lot of the nuance of the discussion, and leaves room open for disgusting behaviors.
@@Jianju69 its bad ingeneral but currently black people are harmed more by it than white people.
That is the goal. They want it left open for the disgusting behaviors. It is very clearly designed with that end in mind.
Personal racism, while horrible, only harms those who are directly targeted by violence or oppression. Systemic racism effects everyone, even those who are told they benefit from it.
It’s a excellent episode, and our cypher explains a lot.
I've never heard anyone say that. Most conservatives deny the systemic component at all and as for personal, just a few bad apples.
Hey Cypher, I’m about ten minutes in and just got and ad from the “Foundation against intolerance and racism” saying that systematic racism doesn’t exist. Very strong PragerU vibes might be a good idea to address this video soon if it’s being pushed to your audience. Also shows how messed up YT is.
yikes. thanks for letting me know
Sadly content creators have no or at least very little control over what adds get shown on their videos.
The history behind Prager U would be a good video, though.
YT allows advertisers to choose what content they want to advertise on, so you get a lot of religious ads on atheist channels for example.
Cypher may correct me on this but here it goes. By clicking on those ads, you are causing those advertisers to pay Cypher. RUclipsrs get paid by the ad; more for clicks on ads. This is more of a question than a statement. 🤔
@@wPatrickSF it would be against the RUclips terms of service to say, "that definitely works." In no way can I openly condone such behavior
I'm 52. When I was a kid in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, talking about all of this was forbidden. People told me that I was racist for questioning justice systems, education systems, health systems, imperialism, and the slave trade. I never thought that my neighbors would learn what knew. Thank you for this video. We still exist in structures that we can change.
That change is going to come slowly, painfully, and with great resistance.
But we shall overcome… someday.
Idk what's racist about questioning imperialism or the slave trade; what can be racist is you conflating imperialism with a specific skin color and acting like other actors don't exist.
I've seen more than my share fair of BLM activists say as such. Not all, but a few.
I'm 57. I have heard this discussed my entire life. How did you miss affirmative action? Happened in the 80s. A lot of people talked about it. Oh yeah, there were some urban renewal programs. ETC.
@@stephenjenkins7971 saying something like the african kingdoms where active participatan in the slave trade.
Kmperialism maybe something with the whitemans burden?
Idk
In a long enough timeline progressivism wins. It's just hard to maintain that endurance, understandably so.
If the confederate flag is part of your heritage, then Fortnite is part of mine. The confederacy lasted 4 years, Fortnite has already lived significantly longer.
Fortnite is the more legitimate heritage of the two
Great video. As a black history buff I am very happy that material like this that explains the how's and why's of this issue, in a informed and concise way is out here on youtube for all to see. So many people in this country, simply have no idea about our own history.
Do you get that if you lived in a country built by your ancestors your income would be on average 1/10 of your present one? Then why should you be equal to white people if you already benefit massively from them? Why should you be entitled to have even more?
“Systemic racism doesn’t exist because I’ve never seen it,”
The continent of Asia doesn’t exist because I e never been there
I've visited Canada, but Canada doesn't actually exist. It's just America's hat
That was shockingly good, and fair to all the major political and ideological groups addressed. You even have a bibliography and links to references and such, and all of the events you mention in the video are a matter of historical record that people can look up. Way to go!
I was with you 90%. I disagree with the point that systemic racism wasn't purposeful. And although those things were ended, it doesn't change that as a nation we as a whole still haven't dealt with that past. There is very little new racism, but continuation of past racism. Many of the people that were a part of the old racism (jim crow, segregation) are still alive and some are still in government.
Can also be a mix out of both, some Systems had purposeful planing others by accident. Also i didn't read Cyphers argumentation as that nobody was for theses Systems ofcourse somebody wanted them. But if a Bank act racist in their loan giveing is it really a great goverment plan. I mean R. Moses could be an example for such a mix, but i am not from the US so you probaly know more anyways.
A lot of systematic racism is a continuation of the old racism yes, as people started to sympathize with black people and demand equal rights, politicians and such had to disguise their racism, and by having colorblind laws that target black people by mainly material conditions, they get plausible deniability and can say it's a personal failure
I have to say that it is refreshing to watch honest, well researched, and well reasoned discussion on this most difficult topic.
Well done, young man.
You can’t fool me! You are just discussing the essence of CRT without stating in outright!
Great job; there are many details in here I had not known before. You make some of the most timely, thoughtful, and worthwhile content on this platform.
This is honestly one of the best breakdowns of systemic racism I have seen. Most who tackle the issue don't make the distinction between personal and systemic. I myself have had trouble vocalizing it but am absolutely going to nab it from this. Part of the reason I have seen many people who benefit from systemic racism being defensive of it isn't due to being pro racist, but because it's a mixture of staving off cognitive dissonance and them also conflating systemic with personal. By contextualizing it that can greatly reduce that mental anguish and potentially help the individual reframe it in their head and realize that what they would be giving up is also potentially harmful to themselves in the long run.
Thanks for your great work, Cypher.
Vaush, Destiny, Hasan, Second Thought, Hakim. Many more in the left leaning sphere that explain it very well :)
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Is it racist or classist?
@@garyjohnson8327 kinda both honestly
@@sandmans5980 I was gonna say this too. Classism and racism unfortunately cross pollinate a lot. That isn't to say working class white people don't suffer systemic oppression but more often than not they tend to be very rural and isolated. Politicians have convinced many to act against their own vest interest by appealing to their feelings of disenfranchisement and levying the anger that comes with that towards minorities. Meanwhile said politicians and "elites" laugh at all of us working class people because they tend to view us as expendable. Fact is the rural farmer has more in common with the urban mechanic or working class immigrant than any elected official in office.
The most import part of a conversation like this is defining your parameters for what systemic racism actually is. People just get confused and angry when this isn’t done properly! As usual I love your content, thanks for educating me and so many others and helping us all see history more complexly.
interracial couples are still extremely frowned upon by blacks and whites! i can’t tell you how many times i’ve got a dirty look or a sly comment from a grown man black or white about my black girlfriend.
@@dwick2751believe it or not but you’re not responsible for the actions of others just because they have the same skin color as you.
Are a multitude of reasons for it, mainly boils down to is how well the races get along in general. Many hispanic and white couples in my hometown, Hispanics and whites get along well enough, so most people don't give a crap.
It was very unusual when I was young. It's difficult to see it as routine. That said, it is not the business of others to have any say in the matter but you cannot expect people that are not brought up this way to not notice, but you can and should expect that they mind their own business.
Excellent work Cypher. If there is any summary to this video and the historical information we’ve seen in this video, it is this: This is an American issue that requires ALL OF US to solve. No racial or party affiliation is excluded, we all need to figure out how to come to terms with how the laws and societal norms we live under can change to promote true freedom and liberty for all. It’s an ugly battle that won’t be easily fought, but I hope one day we can get there.
@@NoahBodze That requires a drastic reformation of the entire public education system
@@NoahBodze you actually believe they had no hand in building the cities? Wasn't slavery free labor
@@NoahBodze So you basically learned nothing from the video and went full racist any way...Jamal Kareem was right...tough battle indeed.
It’s not that hard actually. White people need to realize there’s other ways to live. They’re the ones holding stuff back by continuing to support the system.
I just wanna say this is a really great video!
Sadly there will always be people who either misunderstand, or intentionally misrepresent what Systemic Racism is - and there will always be people who live in complete denial, either intentionally, or due to lack of comprehension and/or lack of willingness to accept that systemic issues exist, also issues that doesn’t necessarily affect them directly!
Cypher, you've really got my respect with this video, CRT and 10 myths about slavery. (Forgive me if I didn't get the titles correct) this is thorough, well paced and rich with context. And with all the sources you list, I really trust you to teach me something and know that I can look into this stuff even deeper without having to go on a wild academic chase.
Pssst… there’s a HUGE difference between education and knowledge. It’s called “student debt”.
@@FilosophicalPharmer haha that is a good one!
@@FilosophicalPharmer Psst,Psst . I got my AA on active duty in the military, finished my BA, working after I got out in '82 .Lived and retired in the top 20% of income earners in the NYC suburbs . Put my twins through State University. No debt. So If you got some debt relief . Are you going to vote ,( by mail or whatever). or sleep in on election day? P.S, I'm African American, use to be Black, My parents were "Colored". I was bought to NY on a segregated train in the '60s , and have a six figure retirement. You took money from a rigged system..
@@machetedonttweet1343 Thankful you're an outlier, sir. Are you aware of the Consumer Price Index and how the economy was semi-sane prior to 1971? Even though you have more melanin than I, you have an advantage over me in that you sound about 10-15 years older. You also point out your family escaped from the South and you grew up in NYC, something else I'm thankful for. Circumstance rules our lives. I'm glad you made the best of yours.
And yes, I completely agree our entire system is broken, rigged, immoral ... and any other words you want to use.
Can't stand the money-changers of the world but one thing bankers and I have in common is this - I don't care what race, gender or orientation you are if your ideas are selfless and sane. Meanwhile, bankers don't care what race, gender or orientation you are as long as you make your payments on time.
And PS - would we know Jimi Hendrix' name had he grown up in Savannah instead of Seattle?
@@machetedonttweet1343 Just thought of a funny anecdote I had to come back and share with you. I hope you get a chuckle out of it!
My need to understand the world had me read Maya Angelou's "I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings" a couple years ago and, OMG!, that book opened my eyes! I'm such a bleeding heart, I had to stop myself from interrupting the "nuclear families" enjoying their family time together. I wanted so badly to walk up to the Dad, look him in the eye and say "I understand."
What I never realized until later is that my words and intentions, to make a connection with a Dad spending time with Mom and kids, were themselves racist! I have also learned that 'liberal racism' is the worst simply because the person you're speaking with has convinced themselves they're not!!
Lastly, I'm going to end with a quote from from an angry, old white guy I heard yesterday say: "To all the racists out there who are afraid that 'blacks' or 'the Jews' are coming for them? You don't have to worry about them. You have to worry about guys who look like me coming after you. Why??? Because there are lots of us who are fed up with your ignorance, making us *ALL* look bad."
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Based on what I see, this is a good explanation for why systemic racism exists as well as what it is. Quite useful.
I think we can blame about 56% of this on Wilson
One of the best channels on RUclips. History with context. Can’t get enough of it.
Of course, it’s also interesting to note that A LOT of the laws that perpetuate systematic racism are also ableist. Regan’s defunding of public mental health services criminalized mental illness, tying voting rights to IDs adds another layer of restrictions to people who often can’t drive, defunding welfare defunds programs like Medicare and other programs built to assist disabled people, and let’s not get into all the accessibility and medical problems!
Also, I think you make an interesting point on how many people don’t realize that legal racism is within living memory. I have a great aunt who vividly remembers only being allowed to swim in the public pool once a month because they only let hispanics in right before they cleaned it. She was VERY involved with the Chicano movement and spent most of her career working in bilingual education. California’s current “English Only” education policy completely dismantled the DECADES she spent trying to equalize education and hurts both Spanish speaking and english speaking students!
Cypher, I genuinely believe that this video should be mandatory viewing in all American High Schools. All you're presenting is factual history, not "alternative facts" history, but just HISTORY. Unfortunately we both know that the people that need to see this the most would fight the hardest to keep it out of schools.
Republicans will cry CRT so
All of Cypers videos should, and their bibliography's critically analysed
@@shockcat5988 aw, you gonna cry?
@@shockcat5988 call Europeans retards? What?
@@TROBassGuitar Rule of thumb is unless you have a handful of Adderall don't feed the trolls.
Just watched this for the second time. Thank you for being informative and reality based but not boring. I'm going to use some of this for a lesson in systemic racism for my young teen.
A lot of red flags here
I thought you Did a pretty good job of explaining systemic racism. I found the actually understanding what it is isn’t very common on either side of the political isle. And when you actually properly explain it it’s pretty agreeable for everyone
I think that in my country there is systematic racism as well.
However all the stuff I can find of it, even the Dutch academic literature is about America.
It is a shame that we can't seem to look at ourselves but we can judge the other. I think that's why it is a hot topic.
Great video though
I’ve noticed that many Europeans laugh at America for being racist but have never looked at their own colonial past and modern day bigotry
@@walker1tnranger Well the colonialism is addressed and dealt with in that sense. (As in systematic and such) Like we do not have any American Samoa or Guam or Porto Rico things going on in the Netherlands atm. Also i do get the knee-jerk reaction a lot. "You laughed at our racism, but you had colonialism"
But I highly doubt that a colonial past doesn't leave some marks in legislation. And I think it is weird that we do not look into it. So yeah in that way we do need to look into that.
Specially because we did not have slaves in the country only in the islands we colonized it might just be that it doesn't boil to the surface the way it does when there actually living next door to you.
@@jessevandeinsen4202 The Netherlands still owns islands in the Caribbean, and colonialism is alive and well, it has just taken a less direct form
@@walker1tnranger No the islands there are separate countries. They are part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, but not part of the Netherlands. With their own laws and presidents.
There are 2 islands that voted to be provicines of the Netherlands proper, and as such they are considered municipalities with every benefit and every duty. But before that they where part of the country the Antilles. Of which the Netherlands had no jurisdiction.
The reason why i think it is a knee-jerk reaction is "Europeans" for instance, like Luxembourg or San Marino or Lichtenstein had any colonists or colonies. Europe is not one big federal thing.
Hell your answer cannot distinguish the Kingdom with the country that consists of multiple countries.
And I don't blame you for that btw, because it is a migraine inducing mess of asterisk and weird history. For instance I live in the Netherlands but not in Holland while my family is not from the Kingdom but from the grandduchy that is succeeded because of Saxon inherent laws.
And to stay on topic, looking for laws that are biased towards a group with a racial basis that has that much asterisk and old weird stuff in it is kind of tricky if no one is looking in the mirror honestly. (Or is looking but doing a "but they are bad as well)
@@jessevandeinsen4202 I'm not so sure about that.
While traditional forms of colonialism have largely fallen away, Capitalist economies still function based on indirect forms of imperialism (ex. Most of the products you consume were probably made through a combination of slave labor, resource theft, etc).
While your government might not be directly holding land, the larger companies in your nation probably outsource labor to impoverished countries where they take advantage of the local population.
It's a much more subtle form of imperialism/colonialism, and requires multiple nations and companies to be complicit, but I think it is still a form of colonialism nonetheless.
The Netherlands might not have any imperial holdings, but all of the products you use are still the result of economic exploitation.
That's not to say that Europe isn't doing better (generally, the UK is arguably as bad as the US in some regards), but I think to say that colonialism is dealt with is incorrect. It's rather that colonialism has changed forms.
This is a great topic, and it’s sure needed. We sure were not taught this in school. Regan was a way worse President than I realized. I knew he ignored the AIDS crisis, but forgot about all his racist policy. I do remember the Welfare Queen BS, but understand it more today.
I'm surprised you talked about some of the people on the left can be racist. It doesn't get talked about a lot.
It gets talked about all the time. Turn on fox news
Speaking as a leftist, yeah, the left can be prejudiced and bigoted, both in replicating the forms of racism we claim to oppose from time to time, but also in other ways. The thing about the left is that well it tries to aspire to a higher ideal, exists in a reality that is not that ideal. This is why the left needs to constantly question its own biases. Sexism, homophobia, racism, antisemitism, transphobia, etc. All certainly exist on the left, even if there are leftist out there who want to deny it. Those people are typically called Brosocialists.
@@jameshagan2832 It doesn't get talked about in leftist circles. Like at all. Fox News of course cries about it, but its dismissed as right-wing propaganda; that's kinda the problem.
@@jameshagan2832 well yeah and leftists calls it right wing propaganda so....
The only problem with this channel is the waiting for the next video. As usual Cypher is excellent, nuanced and to the point, keep'em coming, man!
Thanks, i have to focus on my dissertation. So monthly uploads currently
@@CynicalHistorian No worries my friend, I understand and appreciate your efforts to keep the candle burning on both ends.
I am sure your hard work will pay off and your dissertation will be a great piece of history literature. I hope we all get to read it soon!
@@CynicalHistorian ah. So that’s what you’ve been up to. You are missed. But - priorities!
This is a very complicated Discussion I'm a Southern Black guy and im aware of both personal and systematic racism, and they run parallel.
This was a great take on a very polarizing topic. Imagine that.... America can't come to terms with its history. Like you said in today's world we're dealing with vestiges of Systemic Racism. The laws say one thing, however the practice and traditions born out of the institutional structures of a bygone era still exists and shape society.
I especially like how you tackled this and showed that while individuals may not hold racist views several of the institutions of society inadvertently do. Until America and the world deal with reality and peel back the many layers, see it for what it is, recognize the damage done, clean it up then focus on the healing process we'll leave this issue to further degenerate.
More power to you mate.
"Our society is still riddled with the legacy of Jim Crowe. And it takes looking at how that developed throughout the last century to understand why."
Please say it louder for those trying to take race out of education.
I would actually suggest you do a video on the link between the rise in racism and medicine. There's a lot I've read that surprised me, including the links with colonialism. It's an area that many healthcare professionals don't know in detail and I think it would be a good topic for your viewers. Keep up the good work.
That might be a bit outside cypher’s wheelhouse. I mean, I don’t know a lot of historians who know much about medicine
@@SunflowerSocialist He needn't look no further than the Henrietta Lacks story and the Black American female sterilization tactics and non-consented experiments of the good ol' boys in Southern, Western AND Northern governments, in concert with trained doctors under the purview of the federal government.
It's a long-standing and not as nuanced as you think, history which continues to this day (hence the numbers of Black American women that die during childbirth as opposed to other demographics). I'm not even going to delve into the practices of theft/harvesting of blood and stem cells without consent. Hospitals for Black Americans are dangerous environments.
The purposeful and harmful divestment practices of the prevailing society described in this video continues to contribute to a lack of trained Black American medical professionals and scientists, which in a fair society based upon liberty and justice, would've enabled this population to separate from the prevailing racist medical field (which has by and large, adopted the practices and culture of the foreign doctors that were snuck into the U.S. under Operation Paperclip).
The medical field is no different than the political, social, real estate and banking institutions as it pertains to Black American people.
I've encountered many people who's culture systematically encouraged personal racism.
There are always some 100% committed racists, but they are not the majority. They are a minority themselves. They cannot be reasoned with. It is more productive, to find the majority white people who arent commited to racism. However, it's no microwave dinner. It's slow cooking challenging racism, because revolutions start in the minds of people. And if they're afraid yhey will hold onto what they know. They can't think straight. That's why grifter politicians put so much energy to keeping people afraid. Secure people are not overwhelmed by change. But if they become afraid or insecure, they can't see the way to do the right thing. So, you have to pay attention to whom you seek to influence. Giod luck
I'm sure you have, it could be understood that ingroup out group dynamics can be directly or indirectly antagonistic when the ingroup norms enforces conformity with little tolerance for others that are relatively different.
If you want a book to read about systemic racism that's on the more academic side (but was still very enjoyable and approachable) I HIGHLY recommend Racism Without Racists by Eduardo Bonilla-Silva. I've read The New Jim Crow (Alexander) and How To Be An Anti-Racist (Kendi) and while both of those are good, the analysis of the dialogue with people of all different backgrounds who perpetuate systemic racism was eye-opening. Bonilla-Silva addresses common tropes like "I have black friends, I can't be racist" and "I'm the least racist person I know". He builds a strong model, slowly and methodically through the course of the entire book and addresses systemic racism in the recent pandemic (6th edition).
For a small TL;DR, Bonilla-Silva argues that the explicit racism of the past has evolved to a "colorblind racism" today that is held in place and perpetuated by four main frames: abstract liberalism, naturalization, cultural racism and minimization of racism.
@@MrCmon113 Your comment comes across pompous but I will give a reply in good faith.
Bonilla-Silva does not change the definition of racism. He analyzes how racism presents itself today in people's words, ideas and opinions. In the past, racism presented itself more explicitly like actual chains and whips. Today, racism presents itself in "colorblind" or "nicer" form like "[X] got the job because of affirmative action". This makes racism much harder to get rid of because most people don't believe saying such things is racist.
This is where the title of the book comes from. No one believes they are racist today but their words, ideas and opinions are perpetuating systemic racism. I invite you to read the book for yourself and come to your own conclusions. The book itself is incredibly well noted with references to hundreds of studies.
Great video as always. You have more than proven yourself to be a reliable source. You try to look at both sides but don't pretend that they are equivalent. The GOP is weaponizing this fairly effectively and we need to fight twice as hard to make sure everyone gets a chance to vote (including felons imo). Here in Oregon, you are automatically registered when you get an ID or License and they ask all the time if I'd like to register to vote. Anyone that thinks logically and critically about this should come to similar conclusions. If you want to limit the right to vote you are throwing up red flags that you are a bad actor or are ignorant.
I’ve realized, the more educated I become, the more progressive I become.
I could imagine if voting somehow got easier in general, a lot of these other problems related to systemic racism would slowly get dealt with through voters voices getting heard. Its just sad to learn about how many things black people and people of colour in general have so many disadvantages still after Jim Crow.
I love how the far right and far left architypal characters make me ruminate on my internal biases and consider if an adjustment in my ideological worldviews is necessary... thankyou
I really like how he took the time in the beginning to push against both poles of the side of the argument to show his position just by seeing the title I thought he might come with a certain agenda but after that it really helped me calm down and make me much more willing to listen to the points he had great video man love your content 👍🏼
Great video. I've been reading a lot on systemic racism in medicine since it's my primary profession. Going through the history and primary sources has been helpful at revealing how these types of biases and disparities in healthcare persist. In fact, it's one of the main reasons why I try to read something historical daily given how so many issues have some basis in it. My hope is that content like this and the books I've read encourage people to do their part in confronting the past and righting the wrongs through systemic change.
“It’s all right to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps, but it is cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps.”
I recognize the quote, but even so I have to ask, "Is it really ok to tell a man to lift himself by his own bootstraps?" The phrase was originally intended to refer to something that was impossible. It cannot be done.
It’s not a good sign that I related to the straw man more than I should have. I do agree we have made progress but Malcolm X famously made the point that pulling the knife out a few inches isn’t the same thing as healing. I understand you are making the point that Jim Crow was a specific evil that doesn’t exist in the same form but casts shadows from the past that still loom and reinforce themselves. But you simultaneously presented the idea that white supremacy is being reinforced today as foolish. School to prison pipelines, perpetuated housing discrimination, privatized prisons today reinforce white supremacy and continue to exist because they are profitable. I will readily admit that many people on the left have a tendency of being either: class reductionists or taking the realities of today as being 100% equivalent to previous forms of oppression. I recognize that both straw men aren’t right but those perspectives don’t happen to the same extent and the prevalence and consequences of those mindsets are very disparate. In that same vein prejudice against someone racialized as white isn’t right but doesn’t have the same consequences for those racialized as POC. I want to say that I enjoy and respect the educational content you create. Additionally, the meat of your video is absolutely right however for me the dismissal of white supremacy in modern politics ignores the tangible consequences of the Christian white nationalist movement in America today
It is something that you can see, not only in the United States, but in so many other countries. To give a very close example, in Mexico the class problem is a race problem. The disconnected indigenous rural communities and the poorer working classes are for the most part people of color.
This is a good 30,000 ft introductory overview of systemic racism in the USA. Starting at 6:14, the video touches on a little bit of the political, educational, and economic institutions of US society, hopefully sparking curiosity for viewers to find other responsible sources from which to learn more.
Most anti-CRT propaganda I've seen attacks a straw-person version of the far-left "grievance politics" variants of CRT (which, yes, often unfairly misrepresents what the "grievance politics" people think), while tacitly promoting the views of people like Thomas Sowell. It's propagandistic misdirection that makes it harder for people to engage with empirical reality and think critically.
I love the more balanced approach you give to this topic. Questioning both the right and left dubious opinions on systematic racism
Same, makes it more easier for people of either political ideology to really understand what he's saying and the lesson at hand
Great vid. I just wanted to point out that I’m some states where people with felonies can purportedly vote after serving time, there are other restrictions in place such as they have to pay all fees associated with their conviction while also not telling them what the fees are, or having to request re enfranchisement via more bureaucracy, or straight up not telling them. It’s effectively still disenfranchisement
so i use to watch a lot of right wing or center right youtubers and they use to say the same thing as given at the start of the video and i used to believe them well in my defence i don''t live in the u US and back them i really didn't knew alot about us history but still it is good to talk about this topic as it is a very serious one and still effect many people to this day and we should always remeber that it is much more complex them what both sides of the political spectrum wants us to believe
THANK YOU so much for this video. It is videos like this, well done, terrifically cited, that keeps my narrative when having discussions with people who are in a deep state of denialism, fact based. It's the only way to keep it somewhat level and dispel trending internet catch phrases, like "victimhood", which are being applied as a blanket statement to the Black pop as a whole.
Systematic racism is insidious and is still a problem. And so is personal racism & prejudice. The two are often interchanged but are distinctly different, but they both still exist. The personal may be even worse as it is more covert! Sometimes, I despair it shall never cease, and this nation as a whole, will never properly heal. And how I do wish that seemingly impossible feat could happen! Subscribed.
I disagree with your take that systemic racism isn’t being specifically done to harm black people. While it may not be true for all GOP voters or even all of their politicians, enough of them hate black people to have an impact.
good on you for keeping likes/dislikes visible, a lot of youtubers would just make it nonvisible because the influx of dislikes is predictable so to have it visible is very brave of you. you have my full respect
I recognize the issue coming from a Caucasian woman married to an African American man. Not only in housing but other subtle ways. Thanks for your video, good work.
Great video!! Seems really straight forward and fact based and it's clear to me that the creator of this is all about spreading truth and information not just trying to be a youtube star . Wish more conent had this kind of honesty and this tone.
We joke about the term "professional racism" but there definitely are groups dedicated to solely being racist
I may not agree with all of your conclusions, but you make an excellent case and your analysis was fair. Sadly, while legislation and policy tries to eliminate racial injustice in society, such policies and laws cannot eliminate racism within the hearts of people.
Curious what "conclusions" you disagree with. Also policies and laws absolutely CAN eliminate racism in the hearts of people, just not right away. Change a policy and the behavior will follow. Change a behavior and a mindset will change. It takes a long time and won't be easy or pretty, but it works.
@@theodoremcdonald9471 Yeah, change a policy change a behavior as well, that really worked for drugs, goddamn authoritarian thinking.
But that’s irrelevant. The purpose of the video was to examine systemic racism, not personal racism. Laws can’t make people stop being personally racist or bigoted, but they can change systems.
@@stormevans6897 It has to be the right policy. And if you watch the video you'll see that the war on drugs was never meant to stop people from using them. It was implemented to expand government power to squash dissent and it worked very well.
@@theodoremcdonald9471 lmao no they can’t. Otherwise it would’ve already happened. Many white people believe their way of life is superior, whereas other groups just see cultures as different. Because whites see themselves as superior they will always try to remain in control.
Minor nitpick, but I think your points would be strengthened if you defined the difference between institutional and systemic racism. Many people think they are the same thing. In reality, systemic racism is a response to the illegality of institutional racism. One can't label a public school colored or white anymore, but they can draw districts in a way that the schools are still colored or white. It's the same effect but different wrapping paper. I do wonder about how this affects other races. There are many sources on black vs white institutional and systemic racism. That makes sense since that is both the majority and plurality populations. It's just I want to know more about that since I lived in New York City for 15 years and always heard the lie about how Asians/Jews are poof that systemic racism doesn't exist.
Apologies in advance for the long-winded response.
While of course this is a complex question with varied and often seemingly contradictory contributing factors with neither simple answers nor easily identifiable or dichotomous victims and villains.
But I'd offer at least one phenomenon that I think ensnares people of all backgrounds once they come to this country regardless of the political situation or social hierarchies they came from. America simply will not permit you to be a bystander to its history of racial subjugation nor anything that an individual or group can do will inoculate them from its externalities. As you say, the question is largely framed as black and white. I think not only because of the representation of those two groups in the population, but because it is the intense and inextricable relationship between blackness and whiteness, initially economically driven concepts creates some 400 years ago and as much a creation of the United States. It is an American innovation as significant as the invention of representative democracy. America would have never become the great country that it is without its unique system of racialized forced labor and America would not have been able to sustain its position as the dominant nation state on Earth without the subsequent creation of a permanent social underclass governed by a racial caste system. In other words my friend, the phenomenon of black and white people and their relationship to each other is the very fast moving train that continues to barrel down the tracks of American history. Anyone who becomes an American has to either get on that train or get run over by it.
So my hypothesis is that other racial and ethnic minorities learn very quickly that to be positioned for success as an individual or a group is to position oneself as close in proximity to whiteness as possible and as far away from blackness as possible. And I think just as was stated in the video this doesn't necessarily happen intentionally. Well mostly not intentionally, because I also posit that black people themselves are hip to this game. It's what often accounts for the meteoric rise of African-American conservatives who are willing to be outspoken in their criticisms of other African Americans and unwavering in their absolution of the sins of white people past and present. I think it's why we see often, although not as often as the controversy might make it seem, that there is a divide between the black people who immigrate here from Africa or the Caribbean. These groups, themselves descended from histories of slavery and colonialism arrive with the perception of enough foreignness to make them seem just different enough to opt out of being defined in the same unenviable terms as America's descendants of slavery.
Having said all that I wish I knew what the solution to all of this is but I'm afraid that my experience and understanding has been that every sincere, thoughtful and committed attempt to mitigate (people were killed trying to fix it; people are still being killed because of their resistance to it) it has only made it worse. We're all stuck on that train.
@@barnettder 💯💯💯💯💯💯 Excellent breakdown, sir. especially the first sentence in your second paragraph. Best post in this thread.
So lucky to have found your channel. RUclips rarely contradicts its modus operandis In order to provide good recommendations
Cypher, been watching and loving your channel for a while now (you actually introduced me to Reconstruction and I'm reading Foner's book on it). I think the inclusion of characters like Cyrpto and Chyka elevates your work, and as a viewer it really makes for an enjoyable experience while learning! Love your channel, and thank you for being a launchpad to learn about so many new historical events and topics, as a Canadian I would have never learned about Reconstruction and it's such a fascinating period of history. Thank you, and keep up the awesome work!
It's always people who haven't experienced systemic racism who deny it exists. So, if I haven't experienced something, it must not exist. There is nothing more arrogant and egocentric than that.
Rapidly refreshing to document all the funny comments before they get deleted
I would love to make a long, in-depth comment praising this video, but I would never be able to do it justice. This is an incredible video.
Thank you for explanation!! I just hope most black people understand that they can and are racist too !! Just because they are black doesn’t mean that their racism can be justified !! Thanks to them sincerely racism have grown now everyone racist !!
That's not racism that's prejudice and bigotry black people aren't in a position of power to disadvantage white people what you're talking about is mean words we're talking about being allowed to live
@@mateohodge6998 Racims means that you think your ethnicity is superior than others, so yeah they are racist.
@@mateohodge6998 - Thank you for explaining this so that those that understand the English language can comprehend it.
@@mateohodge6998 wow, i guess you can change definitions of a word on a whim if it suits your agenda
@@quissbird-10 I mean words and meanings do change but this has always been it's meaning the Civil rights movement had their message distorted and white washed to the point that yall think our struggles were just people being mean
The more I hear about Reagan, the more I am surprised by how people loved him. It seems like besides his Charisma, he was really a bad president. The guy took away good social programs like welfare, he increased wealth inequality through supply-side economics, he increased the war on drugs and specifically targeted black people, he increased military spending, and he has has influenced the presidents after to only act in favor of the rich. I feel like the only reason things worked out for him was because he was lucky that it didn't implode like Reagan 2.0 (Trump).
You did an amazing job on this video. And I wish it would be played in schools across the US.
You're responding to a lot more comments that you would normally delete. Is this some kind of algorithm scheme or are you harvesting for a response video?
A bit of both
"If you stick a knife in my back nine inches and pull it out six inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it all the way out that’s not progress. Progress is healing the wound that the blow made. And they haven’t even pulled the knife out much less heal the wound. They won’t even admit the knife is there"(Malcom X 1968) on an Interview
Malcom X also said both races should never live alongside each other. He was controversial.
yeah cool i think hitler allso sayd something like this
@Nicholas Time LOL too true
Just a slight correction. The speech was made before 1968 bc Malcolm X was a$$a$$inated in 1965.
Inequality in US public schools funding is overstated. Inequality BETWEEN states is greater than within states and the state/federal govt regularly tops up local district budgets.
Another Outstanding video based on our society as of today and how we got here. I wish more of history can be so easily brought to light, however; I fear it's simply wishful thinking to assume such.
I do hope to see you tackle the major reason for the pushback on Black movements in the 1960s and its links to anti-communist elements in government, but I loved what I saw. Informative video!
Jim Crow laws, Poll taxes, bigotry, racism, xenophobia … take your pick! And don’t forget about the “professional racist” from the early 1900’s named Thomas Dixon the highway in my small, rural, Southern town is named after. What a nice homage to the man who wrote the book that “Birth of a Nation” movie is based on. It was the primary impetus that reinvigorated the KKK. Makes me NAUSEOUS!
Simple; because a lot of Communist elements were in fact backing every leftist group for the intent to cripple the US' foreign opposition to the USSR. That isn't to say that made them bad; but that is to say that the USSR fully intended to cause internal conflict and the US Government was thusly suspicious.
Situation could've been avoided if Jim Crow was knocked down earlier instead of sitting on it, though.
First of all, many thanks for your great work. I always love getting an historical view of USA phenomenons that ofteb only arrive at the rest of America - south America.- as caricatures and propaganda.
Love the work you do in RUclips, even if RUclips doesnt love you!
*This should be shown in ALL SCHOOLS around the world! Definitely!!! New SuB !!!*
First of all, glad to see you mention a difference between systemic and personal. I do truly think most people are not personally racist or treat people as such, yet on all ends we don’t recognize systems and how it may take generations for them to end.
Also people forget how much the government built this country. My own ancestors only came because the Union Pacific Railroad git government land. Our family farm grew because ag policy made it so you had to get big or get out and now you have some large farmers who as much as they can say they are self made, it’s built with government support at some level.
Dude... This only appeared in my feed in 2023😢
I am a history fanatic. I have seen many of your productions. I am always impressed and enlightened. I am ashamed this is my first comment on your work. As a black man, this has affected me personally. I want to thank you. Of course as a person of color but also as an American. There are so many things laid out in this peice all "black"- Americans should be exposed to, but it is the acknowledgement of all Americans that will improve the nation as a whole. Thank You.
Superb video. Thank you for putting all your sources neatly in the description. Fantastic job.
"This is not some devious plot to disenfranchise black people"
I don't think this should be completely ruled out. We know prominent Republicans have specifically wanted to target black Americans, like Reagan and Nixon. Nixon's own aid stated they were specifically attempting to target blacks with their drug laws. I don't think this has anything to do with a drop in Republican popularity.
I wish there were more polls that broke down political views and views on race, but the closest I could find was the abysmal approval rating until very recently of interracial marriages.
At least for now, I don't think there's any reason to just throw aside the notion that there isn't an interest from people in the Republican party to specifically want to disenfranchise POC, not because they will likely vote Democrat, but because they are POC.
We have a saying in the black community. "It's the hit dog that howls." Here's my unsolicited advice...don't worry about the hit dogs. Keep telling the facts and revealing the truth my friend.
If there's going to be any talk of liberty and justice, it must be spoken of with honesty about its historical and present absences, especially when the absence is deliberate.
That frog clip was amazing 😂😂 well done vid as usual
Cheka sounds like he can't decide if he's Russian, German, or Scottish.
its like he picked the title to drive engagement!
Great video and explanation Cypher, always enjoy your content. You hit on what I get into debates about often, the progress we made doesn’t seem to be acknowledged and if course the denial of existing systems. This is a good place to send people…if they felt like listening. So with the shoutout to Atun-Shei films can we expect a Checkmate Strawmen? I think the two of you together with your counterparts would be amazing.
I think theres a failure to address how the civil rights acts were rarely enforced & were heavily resisted/stopped/rolledback from being implemented by the federal, state, local governments throughout the decades. This means that there would be few areas that had civil rights and many places would limit its effect as much as possible to continue black disenfranchisement. It was a deliberate act done against black americans to continue as close a system (albeit more subtle & less overt) to segregation as possible because of their color, not their class, but class does have a broader involvement in the topic of racism.
You’re doing gods work Cypher. As a fellow Vet, it’s great to see more of us out there that aren’t complete morons and can understand actual history and discuss difficult topics with nuance.
Soldiers are, unfortunately, trained to be obedient and not ask questions. Part of the sacrifice of serving is that loss of ability to think independently.
It’s not that vets are morons, it’s just that they’ve been trained.
@@Justanotherconsumer luckily, thanks to the GI bill, veterans are more educated than the populace as a whole
"I'm 10 seconds into this video and have you considered: 'No, now clean your room.'"
Not to brag or anything but I'm not racist
So this is just my personal opinion so take the grains of salt here, But I think that just about all this is due to the failure of reconstruction after the civil war especially when one looks at it in the view of answering the question of where does States rights begin and end and where does the Federal Government step in. And then Reconstruction's failure leads to this current division and arguments over civil rights and liberties that by all rights should have been settled. I mean I can't speak for anyone else but in my mind equal rights for all means just that. Also can we just fucking stop calling the teaching of history "critical race theory" when it's not, there both very different. (Side bar, I think both are very important to talk about and be educated on). In conclusion I think America has been built on a super racist foundation and it's imperative to not just address that fact but work to change/fix that, Not but white washing over that fact but be really brutally honest about it, face it head on and exercise this national demon. This of course is just my opinion so again take all the grains of salt
I took a college course back when I was at Texas Christian University where the professor (an Asian American male) defined "White Privilege" as not having more advantages in life, rather having fewer disadvantages/discriminations in life (so opposite of what it sounds like). Essentially, in our country's history, White people (with few exceptions) have not faced the multiple generations oppression that most People Of Color (particularly African Americans) have faced, resulting in fewer disadvantages for them today. Sure, if you're a wealthy White person, you are better off than all average/poor people in the U.S., but if you're a middle class White person, you still have better chances to succeed in life because you don't have the systemic disadvantages that African, Asian, Hispanic, and Native Americans at a similar social class level have. Finally, when a person of color does become successful in the U.S., it isn't because of "Reverse Discrimination" as some White Americans argue, rather it is because they have managed to overcome the disadvantages that they faced that many of their White counterparts didn't have to face.
@@justinbellpa ROFL, you straight up believe the Irish slave myth. Well one racist belief always spreads to others. what a trash human being
@@CynicalHistorian wait it's a myth? I hear it all the time from people. I really didn't know that . Don't ban me plz I'm serious lol
@@cd5433 I’m pretty sure Irish and Scottish people were used a labourers, but they were usually slave drivers. I think they were also given freedom much more frequently, but I could be wrong
First i've got to say that I like most of your video content. It's 'nicely educational' and 'interestingly entertaining'...
Now on to constructive criticism... Well, more if a light-hearted remark really.
I like your "far left" and "far right" strawman characters. They're very funny and are great for getting your point across...
BUTT! Have you ever considered that you yourself are the "missing" centrist strawman character?
Actual serious unironic question from, full disclosure, an actual unironic Communist. Btw.
Also, at thirty five years old and a longstanding member of the PCF and the NPA, the two main national Marxist revolutionary parties in the country of France where I live, and both as a globe-trotter and a terminally online one at that, I have never heard any communists or Anarcho-communists claim that systemic racism is intentionally maintained by Empire in order to create a racial underclass. But rather they (and I) all seem to agree with your overall analysis (even if it was a little "Liberally lacking" in class analysis, imo, but that's ok I suppose.)😄
Please answer if you get the time and have the inclination. I really do like your videos. I just don't comment much...
If forcing SOME states to get preclearance for new voting laws is against the constitution... just force ALL States to get preclearance under the Equal Protection Clause that moving to another state cannot allow different rights to be granted or withheld.
If only half of the Senate weren't Republican, that might be a possibility. Makes you realize how much the parties have switched
Great video but the EVEN harder pill to swallow are the effects of defunding of mostly black schools on the average student. If the rich school has drivers ed and the poor school got rid of it bc they couldn’t afford it. It’s not a leap to say there will be a generation of ghettoized students that will have a worse understanding of driving best practices and laws. Someone smarter than me needs to figure out how to fix that problem.
This comment section will be a waste dump
Well, we know Justin didn't watch it.
@@justinbellpa did you? Which US presidents does he mention?
''Here there be dragons.''
@@justinbellpa no i just challenged you to watch the video you are commenting on and prove it. I thought the presidents would be an easy way to do it
@@justinbellpa just watch a video before commenting you snail-brained child
This was amazing. I wish everyone could see this.
I take the opposing view, and doubt that one video will change my mind. However I'm interested in hearing the points that get raised and giving the video a fair shake.
What do you think after watching the vid?
@@calisto789 I think we view reality at a fundamental level completely differently
@@robertg420 And which fundamental reality is this? Curious what this means
@@robertg420 What fundamental differences are you reffering to
At least have the decency to share with us what you believe he got wrong. Or else your just trolling.
It's the word 'systemic' that's always gotten me in this discussion. Racist people exist, yes. Those racist people may hold positions within one or more systems designed to address disenfranchisement. Two racist people within this one system make it a no-brainer for the two people within that system to use it negatively towards a given group. If today there are say, 200 racist people operating within 50 systems, would it not be true to say that from 1870 to 1964 say 500,000 racists were latticed throughout every social system that mattered. That's to say that every state court in every southern state might've been 100 percent staffed by racists. How else could the cases of hundreds of lynchings of blacks in multiple states over multiple decades go to court and yield acquittal, after dismissal. Even the raw numbers of lynchings in general now, compared to the numbers occurring when my grandmother bore my mother in 1944, must account for there being LESS systemic racism today.
There really isn't a law today that says you can't be racist. Just addressing two or more racists using any social system to disenfranchise people with a stark biological differing trait. I'd call the hundreds of them doing it now progress, over the tens of thousands of them doing it from Reconstruction through the Depression.
Cypher is like if red pill was actually a thing, let's hear the truth and let it blow your mind! Love the honest look at history!
The one takeaway I got from this video:
"My chair doesn't have arms, it's a drum stool!" 4:29