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  • Dave LaGreca, Thunder Rosa, and Nic Nemeth discuss Chilean wrestler Stephanie Vaquer signing with the WWE over AEW.
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  • @thebatmanwhoposts9600
    @thebatmanwhoposts9600 Месяц назад +92

    Mercedes walked out of WWE right before a scheduled match and the people who defended that are angry at Stephanie. Unbelievable hypocrisy.

    • @mezzaros5534
      @mezzaros5534 Месяц назад +16

      Its because they are AEW stans. All companies have them.

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад +4

      And it's vice versa too.
      They have no problem with what Steph did (because she's came to WWE), but still give Mercedes shit for it. Not Naomi as much because she 'came back home' all is forgiven... just look at Punk, got 💩 while in AEW (from WWE diehards. Called him every negative thing in the book) came back to WWE all is well.
      ... 'fans' can be weird.

    • @AteCerealWithNoMilk
      @AteCerealWithNoMilk Месяц назад +6

      AEW fans are lames 😂 they have to stick together to meet the "I have friends" quota

    • @thebatmanwhoposts9600
      @thebatmanwhoposts9600 Месяц назад +1

      @@twanmack2686 Stephanie at least was contractually finished with her obligations. Mercedes literally walked out under contract right before a match. She couldn't have at least did the match then leave? Why screw any fans who paid to see her that night?
      Oh yeah and despite the song and dance of walking out she still said she knows she'll be back in WWE one day so it was all pointless.

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад +1

      @@thebatmanwhoposts9600 No she wasn't she was advertised to do NJPW FantasticaMania that she was booked foe 3 weeks prior. A RevPro booking at the Copper Box in the UK and I think one more.
      And Mercedes & Naomi (don't forget she was left too) walked before Raw went on the air. From what I've read it was at least an hour before they went on air. They (WWE) still advertised the match just to make them look like they walked on the fans and put them in a bad light. Same company that falsed advertised a BUNCH of times. If I remember correctly, less then 2 weeks after they walked WWE false advertised a Bayley vs Shotzi match.

  • @iAmLiv859
    @iAmLiv859 Месяц назад +190

    Maybe because I’m just a regular person that’s in the workforce but it always baffles me when people get upset when a worker isn’t loyal to the company that they work for knowing full well that their job isn’t going to be loyal to them. 😭

    • @eblount55
      @eblount55 Месяц назад +34

      Those people are immature. You should do what's best for you because the company will get rid of you anytime. Remember lots of wrestling marks are immature. I grew up a Prowrestling fan not just one federation. I liked some more than others it was never tribal just wrestling fan.

    • @pubighomie7334
      @pubighomie7334 Месяц назад +3

      💯

    • @kevinstfort
      @kevinstfort Месяц назад +3

      It’s not about loyalty. And a regular job is not wrestling. She was contracted to work shows for CMLL, NJPW and RevPro. This is a small niche industry you try not to burn bridges in. And the strange this is she didn’t have to. WWE usually lets people finish out their dates. Not sure why she did that.

    • @MjDudz99
      @MjDudz99 Месяц назад +8

      @@kevinstfortShe either didn’t want to, or didn’t want to risk injury. Either way she was well within her rights and clearly didn’t break any contracts. Glad she did, vs. Giulia working out her dates and missing her debut injured.

    • @iamtriston666
      @iamtriston666 Месяц назад +7

      I VERY recently heard on a podcast. And they said something that has stuck with me. " Corporations should never expect loyalty from from there workers."

  • @garayworkshop
    @garayworkshop Месяц назад +79

    I can't begin to explain to you how huge is the WWE here in Chile. Might as well ask Sami Zayn why he keeps pushing for a PLE in Chile.

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад +8

      CE-ACHE-I

    • @humosconstantes
      @humosconstantes Месяц назад +1

      BRING A PLE TO CHILE AND BRING BACK MR SACO WEA TO USA, AND NO, I DON'T REFERRING VINCE AS MR SACO WEAS

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад

      @@humosconstantes esooo hrmno

    • @ThePatrix1879
      @ThePatrix1879 Месяц назад

      Chile will get a PLE in 2025. Bookmark this.

    • @Crisscool6
      @Crisscool6 Месяц назад

      ​@@humosconstantes everyone who followed Wrestling Superstar in Chile knows who Mr. Saco Wea is ❤

  • @chnomtra531
    @chnomtra531 Месяц назад +59

    Great take by Thunder Rosa! Opportunities come once in a lifetime and Stephanie took it. We're not privy to the conversations and experiences she had from her previous employer, but she has her reasons not to continue her obligations because of the WWE offer and that's her problem to deal with. For me, it's all about taking the risk to achieving that dream, and good people that she meets soon will help her achieve that.

  • @shawnstinde7080
    @shawnstinde7080 Месяц назад +22

    It was her dream to work for a company and she took the offer when it came. I support her decision.

  • @jmtz735
    @jmtz735 Месяц назад +13

    When Stephanie Vaquer first arrived in Mexico she was training with a wrestling promotion in my city, Veracruz, where the ring is in a mudhole and there is only one small room where everyone changes clothes together. I couldn't be happier for her now.

    • @ThePatrix1879
      @ThePatrix1879 Месяц назад +1

      Veracruz is an awesome city!! Love the boardwalk and Playa Mocambo! Heroica Veracruz!!

  • @LennyHenrysDorsalCavity
    @LennyHenrysDorsalCavity Месяц назад +62

    She’s going to be a great addition to any of the 3 brands, Raw, Smackdown or NXT. Very much looking forward to seeing what she’s going to do. 😊

    • @WittySmittyNews
      @WittySmittyNews Месяц назад +3

      I believe Hen

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад +1

      Any brand except for raw for fucks sake if she’s put in the lwo I’m destroying my tv

    • @vegetalover9297
      @vegetalover9297 Месяц назад

      ​@@shortesnameofalltimeit's the Latino World Order bruh

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад

      @@vegetalover9297 ??? I know, she’s from the best country in all of Chile: Chile 🇨🇱

  • @cubist12
    @cubist12 Месяц назад +132

    It's an absolute no-brainer. She's someone who came from little, had a dream, and she busted her ass until she got an offer from WWE. Obviously, whatever contract or agreement she had allowed for her to go to WWE. It's not like they are filing a lawsuit with WWE about it. So, that tells me that it was more of a handshake agreement, which means she had no guarantees. That vs. a guaranteed contract from WWE? Come on. Any critics need to shut up.

    • @chemamorado2104
      @chemamorado2104 Месяц назад +3

      Mark

    • @gopaldalvi5918
      @gopaldalvi5918 Месяц назад

      Keep crying say mark abs move on rather than countering his argument ​@@chemamorado2104

    • @user-in3xj6im7y
      @user-in3xj6im7y Месяц назад

      @@chemamorado2104no you🤡

    • @elijahhill6602
      @elijahhill6602 Месяц назад

      @@chemamorado2104TRIGGERED! 🎯

    • @Just7-mz4ul
      @Just7-mz4ul Месяц назад +3

      ​@@chemamorado2104hey buddy he's saying something try to understand

  • @Megatallica000
    @Megatallica000 Месяц назад +31

    Just watched her vs Mercedes mone and got dam Stephanie Vaquer is a badass. Her movements are explosive, her psychology is top notch and dam the woman can work. Not sure about her mic skills yet but dam shawn michaels is one lucky SOB to have her on the roster. Can't wait to see her on NXT/WWE

    • @Super122291
      @Super122291 Месяц назад +2

      So are you a bandwagon?

  • @Page9theband
    @Page9theband Месяц назад +11

    “$4 and a torta” had me rollin 😂 big facts, Thunder!

  • @joshmoellman1967
    @joshmoellman1967 Месяц назад +91

    Giulia, Stephanie Vaquer, and DELTA….that is a big three!

    • @ExpressDunlop
      @ExpressDunlop Месяц назад +2

      @@joshmoellman1967 delta said she havent signed yet we'll see but it would be overkill. NxT will be stacked for the woman. Male need some addition. They got great wrestler in there with potential but they need some more firepower since losing bron/dragunov/hayes + others hurt the man division. Oba Femi will be phenomenal thought

    • @TeddyTheProWrestlingTroll
      @TeddyTheProWrestlingTroll Месяц назад +18

      .....and could be adding Jordynn Grace by the end of the year. That top 4 would be on the same level as the 4 Horsewomen.

    • @JM-fr5ge
      @JM-fr5ge Месяц назад +1

      @@ExpressDunlopDELTA just wrestled her last match in RCW the commentators were specifically saying it’s her last night in the company

    • @ExpressDunlop
      @ExpressDunlop Месяц назад

      @@JM-fr5ge Oh ok, weird maybe she want to keep that as a surprise.

    • @James.Gatsby
      @James.Gatsby Месяц назад +1

      Shawn's cooking a new 4 horsewomen of pro wrestling he needs just one more.

  • @oakjavi9074
    @oakjavi9074 Месяц назад +96

    People don’t know this but Stephanie had a ex boyfriend who tried to murder her and there’s AEW talent like Rush and Dralistico who supports that man. If I was her I would rather be in a safe working space where I can focus on my goals and not have bad negativity around me. She was smart for decision.

    • @azureblack5044
      @azureblack5044 Месяц назад +28

      I heard about this as well.
      If that's the case, WWE was the safe place.
      We've seen how "safe" the backstage AEW shows are.

    • @kazkaze2456
      @kazkaze2456 Месяц назад +8

      @@azureblack5044 acting like wwe is a safe place LMAO

    • @oakjavi9074
      @oakjavi9074 Месяц назад

      @@kazkaze2456 from many recent WWE wrestler’s experience, it is safe to them 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @kreepmode
      @kreepmode Месяц назад +19

      @@kazkaze2456 why wouldnt it be? Vince is gone

    • @harijha7560
      @harijha7560 Месяц назад

      Ngl she deserves that

  • @user-mm4sb3yw1f
    @user-mm4sb3yw1f Месяц назад +5

    Stephanie Vaquer is awesome! Her decision is her decision and if WWE is where she wanted to be with them that is it she made her dream come true and she took Thunder Rosa is right! I love how Thunder Rosa being a AEW talent is neutral and is happy for Stephanie and thats what matters!

  • @wickedjester8272
    @wickedjester8272 Месяц назад +62

    She had a match with Mrs. Creative Control and said f**k this 😂😂

    • @liontamer8961
      @liontamer8961 Месяц назад +9

      😂😂

    • @captainchuppachup
      @captainchuppachup Месяц назад +1

      It's nice you've copied this same comment that's been all over the Internet since she signed. Dork 😂

    • @fenoh
      @fenoh Месяц назад +6

      @@captainchuppachup r u crying

    • @captainchuppachup
      @captainchuppachup Месяц назад +1

      @@fenoh not at all. But some originality wouldn't go amiss

    • @GamerOfTheUniverses
      @GamerOfTheUniverses Месяц назад +5

      ​@@captainchuppachup Sounds Like You Are

  • @mattmorgan2534
    @mattmorgan2534 Месяц назад +28

    “Loyalty”?! LMFAO! She was not displayed as some type of AEW talent so why are we exaggerating that she was? She was introduced to us specifically as a CMLL talent that was just there for a Coke and a smile, and to the job to Monet. And you guys are pissed off because she used that platform in which she obviously looked like the superior wrestler by the way, and Wwe was impressed enough to then go sign her?
    I’m actually a big fan and supporter of the young woman making this comment Dave, but this is where you can’t get it on his opinion from somebody that’s gonna add a left field all of a sudden shit on her own company that gives her a paycheck. That would be incredibly stupid to do. so why are you putting her in that spot to give a “candid” opinion when we know it’s gonna be the opinion of the AEW office?
    Call Asa Spade for crying out loud already: Wwe is the big time and the major league of professional wrestling. And young talents, who have never wrestled there yet, that is their ultimate goal. So People are gonna throw shade on this young talent because she chose Wwe over AEW? Are you shitting me?!

    • @shadyhavok1
      @shadyhavok1 Месяц назад +3

      @@JesusIsComingSoon316 i dont think the aew fans are mad because she didnt sign there. cmll is pissed and njpw is pissed because she had dates and didnt finish them. my twitter is legit aew fans saying damn i wish she wouldve come to aew but good for her i hope she kills it. literally i havent seen one person say fuck her for going to wwe. and twitter fucking sucks lol

    • @chemamorado2104
      @chemamorado2104 Месяц назад

      The council doesn’t not forget

    • @81rbutler
      @81rbutler Месяц назад

      Dude, that is you. Mr. Matt Morgan, how are you sir? Looking snazzy.

    • @captainchuppachup
      @captainchuppachup Месяц назад

      It's loyalty to CMLL and NJPW. She's flaked on already announced shows in the next few weeks. Not the end of the world, but no one thought of her as an AEW wrestler you dork.

    • @09hicktown
      @09hicktown Месяц назад

      @@shadyhavok1The idea cmll and NJPW are lies from Meltzer to make her look bad for not choosing the clown show

  • @junkpunchhero
    @junkpunchhero Месяц назад +24

    Lol Loyalty to a company? It's 2024.. No..

    • @liveanddieinchicagoliveand7074
      @liveanddieinchicagoliveand7074 Месяц назад +1

      Unfortunately not really I would have never thought edge who Vince made 11 tine champ turn on wwe to go to aew or Jericho both wasn't stars or champions intil wwe

  • @SonOfMuta
    @SonOfMuta Месяц назад +5

    What saga? There is no saga. Everyone saying she was "unprofessional" for leaving New Japan and CMLL like that, applauded Sasha and Naomi for walking out of WWE. She had one match in AEW, experienced Tony's shitty booking, and got the fuck out and signed with the major league.

    • @DarthKotEI
      @DarthKotEI Месяц назад +1

      'Major League' shit is fake

    • @adityasuresh8106
      @adityasuresh8106 Месяц назад

      ​@@DarthKotEI just like ur All Elder/corny Wrestling

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      ​@@adityasuresh8106 WWE is the epitome of corny wrestling.

  • @baileyryan96
    @baileyryan96 Месяц назад +7

    I'm honestly happy she's in wwe. I have always said if wwe is interested in you, YOU TAKE IT because you don't know if they'll be interested again in 3-5 years. Some have been lucky to get multiple offers to join WWE like Tama Tanga and LA Knight. Everyone should be in wwe at least once. If you failed, you failed. But, at least you can say you tried, and that's better than not trying at all.

    • @above.average.gaming.natio3026
      @above.average.gaming.natio3026 Месяц назад

      LA Knight? multiple offers? Man even said he had to email HHH for the current stint with the company

    • @baileyryan96
      @baileyryan96 Месяц назад

      @above.average.gaming.natio3026 Yeah, but I believe he got an offer before he took that enormous offer from impact?

    • @above.average.gaming.natio3026
      @above.average.gaming.natio3026 8 дней назад

      @@baileyryan96 nope

  • @cosmicking7979
    @cosmicking7979 Месяц назад +102

    Stephanie Vaquer had a match in AEW and said yeah im going to WWE LMFAO

    • @coltonwilkie241
      @coltonwilkie241 Месяц назад +24

      Literally one match against Botcha and she decided she wanted nothing to do with that. 😂

    • @therev_sungyungmoon24
      @therev_sungyungmoon24 Месяц назад +17

      She only went to AEW to give the title back to Mercedes that Mercedes lost due to injury that was meant for her. Vaquer had no intentions on signing with AEW. She just used them for exposure to a larger audience.

    • @oakjavi9074
      @oakjavi9074 Месяц назад +3

      @@coltonwilkie241that woman will always be in y’all minds and mouths every time and she will continue to succeed so keep being a loser lmao

    • @oakjavi9074
      @oakjavi9074 Месяц назад +1

      She was smart about her exposure to the US crowds

    • @pubighomie7334
      @pubighomie7334 Месяц назад +1

      🤣😂funny

  • @joshhefner8179
    @joshhefner8179 Месяц назад +22

    She never had talks with AEW , She was backstage at NXT heatwave in Toronto on sunday ,She is making her debut for WWE this weekend in Mexico.

    • @therev_sungyungmoon24
      @therev_sungyungmoon24 Месяц назад +4

      I'm pretty sure AEW gave her a contract offer. I'd to your homework before saying she never had talks. She worked their last PPV. I'm sure she talked to them, working there.

    • @1KQ_
      @1KQ_ Месяц назад

      ​@@therev_sungyungmoon24I'd do*

    • @SonOfMuta
      @SonOfMuta Месяц назад

      @@therev_sungyungmoon24 You don't know shit

    • @mezzaros5534
      @mezzaros5534 Месяц назад +2

      @@therev_sungyungmoon24 Neither of you know anything that happened behind the scenes regarding an AEW contract offer. She worked the AEW show on a single appearance deal. Maybe there were expectations that it would lead to her signing a contract and maybe not but she decided to sign with WWE. This is the drawback of bringing in talent that aren't signed to contracts with your company and promoting them on a show/PPV.

  • @userjim83
    @userjim83 Месяц назад +4

    Putting her on your show against your big money signing and not having her locked down under contract is amateurism at the highest level

  • @ChitChatGaming
    @ChitChatGaming Месяц назад +23

    Man, Thunder got almost too defensive about this. She has to put that aside, like Nic did and him and Dave made great points. I get the loyalty but gotta put that aside if you’re going to be on a podcast like this.

    • @rampageof78
      @rampageof78 Месяц назад +11

      Yeah she tried to put that over a bit too much, focused on the negativity..and then to say wwe is copying AEW...Not picking a side but AEW is built on wwe stories and talent from wwe...I think shes upset that stephanie legally played AEW lol

    • @ChitChatGaming
      @ChitChatGaming Месяц назад

      @@rampageof78 yeah I think so lol, I watch both products but that was a little bit too much.

  • @veegob5287
    @veegob5287 Месяц назад +29

    Anyone saying “she had no loyalty” is a mark who have no idea about the wrestling business. This girl is trying to move forward with her life, STHU. 700,000 fans are mad, they all have 5 Twitter handles, but they are nerds.

    • @rl-cx6kf
      @rl-cx6kf Месяц назад +2

      Most AEW fans aren't like that - commentators on wrestling sites or on RUclips maybe. But as an AEW fan I was so thrilled to watch her shine and she's going to be great for WWE. Life is too short to be acting like we're in parasocial relationships with wrestling companies. Good for her to make this happen.

    • @lesterama6110
      @lesterama6110 Месяц назад

      Or business in general

  • @TheTennesseeFistMachine
    @TheTennesseeFistMachine Месяц назад +20

    9:10 imo, this is probably exactly what happend. Nemeth is right on the money here

    • @joenelsaracho4836
      @joenelsaracho4836 Месяц назад

      Nic is on point

    • @joenelsaracho4836
      @joenelsaracho4836 Месяц назад

      @@TheTennesseeFistMachine coz thats what said to him

    • @rl-cx6kf
      @rl-cx6kf Месяц назад +1

      I'd trust a wrestler's viewpoint who's been in meetings like that (& with that company too)

  • @Gunwitch666
    @Gunwitch666 Месяц назад +4

    Great take by TR! Cannot wait to see Steph and Giulia debut!!

  • @Mrstupes
    @Mrstupes Месяц назад +17

    Why are people Mad. It's not their Life. Mind your own business brothers

    • @wuhaninstituteofvirology
      @wuhaninstituteofvirology 26 дней назад

      but WHATCHA GONNA DO, when 93,000 screamin' hulkamaniacs run wild on YOU, brother?

  • @IndustryPets
    @IndustryPets Месяц назад +7

    Always happy for anyone doing what they love! Which is why we love all Pro Wrestling ❤

  • @timothyrigsby5043
    @timothyrigsby5043 Месяц назад +8

    Her dream was to wrestle for WWE so thats what she going to do live out her dream no one can fault her for that

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад

      But in NJPW & CMLL she still had bookings for them. She was announced to do NJPW show almost 3 weeks back. They (CMLL) would gladly let her go, but they wanted her to fulfill those dates where she would likely drop the belts instead of having them vacted.
      Me I have no problem with it. My beef is with the WWE diehards who gave Mercedes & Trinity shit about what they did but see nothing wrong with what she did. You pick in choose when it comes to your favorite promotion... unless you want hold the title of being a hypocrite

  • @bacardi4417
    @bacardi4417 Месяц назад +5

    Thunder with her passive aggressive reminders that Shes from chile not mexico. She said it like 4 times 😂

    • @bigdawggaming1020
      @bigdawggaming1020 Месяц назад

      Bro WHy I felt like Thunder Rosa hating hard😂😂😂

  • @ciscogomez73ify
    @ciscogomez73ify Месяц назад +14

    You all are 100% right on point. I'm looking forward to Giulia vs. Stephanie rematch on NXT. Another female wrestler WWE needs to grab is Megan Rayne "THE MEGASUS " and not afraid to wrestle men. She also took on Guilia twice.

    • @kazkaze2456
      @kazkaze2456 Месяц назад +1

      their first match sucked.. by the way giulia isn"t as good as ppl thinks, she was far from being the best in stardom.. she just have insane aura with an agressive style which fools a lot of casuals.. she's not on the same level as iyo, asuka or stephanie..

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад

      Hopefully it's better than the first time they wrestled. That was horrible tbh

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад

      ​​@@kazkaze2456my dude gets it!!! Giulia is one of the most overrated wrestlers today. I always saw as there are way more ppl better in Stardom than her then she's better then.
      She had the pleasure of working with ppl head & shoulders better than her in Japan. And they shined her up good to where fans (some) were giving her goat status LOL.
      She hides behind so many bells & whistles. It's like she can't work a match with having some outside the ring spot where she Piledrives her opponent through a table or someone gets tossed into the crowd into the seats.
      Goofy ass over doing it on bumping (look up HBK vs Hogan at SummerSlam).
      Same routine/ pattern to her matches.
      If your a how many wrestling moves you can do type of fan: then she ain't for you. SOS Same ol' 💩
      Highest compliment I can give her is: she's somewhat competent in the ring and throws a good forearm to the chest & face.
      Most of these ppl are thinking with the the head behind the zipper than rather the one on their head... if ya know what I mean. If she were buck tooth with a muffin top and a lazy eye, no one would pay her no mind. She's an exotic looking woman. It's amazing what a good face (looks) card can do for someone.
      They'll tell you she has 'aura' and 'good look' (same with Jade) so she should be pushed or main priority... well 💩 then they should push Omos or Jinder when he was around. It don't work that way for dudes, so it shouldn't be that way with women either.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      You mean Megan Bayne? She's been signed to AEW for a long time now.

  • @jeremyruh5219
    @jeremyruh5219 Месяц назад +14

    It's also funny that Guilia dropped her title to Stephanie. Now, she will hit NXT before Giulia . Cannot wait for this

    • @liontamer8961
      @liontamer8961 Месяц назад +5

      I can’t wait for Giulia to get there when she does eventually(fingers crossed)she’s beautiful she’s a bad ass and she can legit go. As long as they don’t stereotype her as another WWE joshi character then she’s going to be amazing

    • @Super122291
      @Super122291 Месяц назад

      ​@@liontamer8961Italian babe ❤

    • @liontamer8961
      @liontamer8961 Месяц назад +2

      @@Super122291shes part Italian but also Japanese and English. I called her a joshi wrestler as that’s where she spent most of her career

  • @ExpressDunlop
    @ExpressDunlop Месяц назад +21

    Nic Nemeth the only brillant mind in this.

    • @R_ziggz
      @R_ziggz Месяц назад +1

      ❤❤ Yes

    • @franklingoodwin
      @franklingoodwin Месяц назад +4

      I mean he worked with WWE going back to the OVW days and he knows the WWE machine. He also would've heard a little about how AEW is run from his brother who I think had some less than positive things to say about AEW after he left, something Ethan Page has pretty much agreed with.

  • @y3ee3e
    @y3ee3e Месяц назад +5

    i love thunder rosa, the cool thing about aew is they allow their wrestlers to be pretty fn open in public by doing podcasts like this.

    • @09hicktown
      @09hicktown Месяц назад +3

      As long as they shill for AEW

    • @georgeh4171
      @georgeh4171 Месяц назад

      If she said anything remotely negative about Tony or AEW she would get frozen out

  • @danzahn4401
    @danzahn4401 Месяц назад +15

    Oh thunder. We can appreciate your loyalty about competition

    • @ExpressDunlop
      @ExpressDunlop Месяц назад +1

      AEW is no competition, it's one of the worse promotion of all time. Real pro wrestling is TNA and other promotion but AEW? Fraud

  • @wondahquinn6825
    @wondahquinn6825 Месяц назад +11

    An excellent sit down with Nick/Dave/Thunder Rosa. I love when Rosa said “the competition is real, it’s happening” because we always wonder how much attention WWE pays to AEW who’s growing the biggest in the USA. AEW is great but WWE is still the biggest ticket so I’m super excited and supportive of Stephanie Vaquer coming over. I’d only seen her wrestle once on AEW and I was sold. I hope Jordynn Grace makes the same move asap- the greatest heights come from WWE if you’re successful there.

  • @shadowsong1
    @shadowsong1 Месяц назад +4

    you always need to do what's best for you. that's what she did. no judgement. wwe is the biggest place to be a wrestler. they offered. she took it. she has all the tools to be a huge star. everyone who see's her perform sees that. it makes complete sense.

  • @VoodooApex
    @VoodooApex Месяц назад +14

    It’s so funny how the AEW fans turned on her lol. Even Rosa sounds salty. “Hey, we don’t know her financial situation.” What kinda bs is that to say when she signed with WWE

    • @steves.6910
      @steves.6910 Месяц назад

      no one turned on her. i think you may have some brain maggots from being a wwe zombie, touch some grass

  • @datruth615
    @datruth615 Месяц назад +6

    I wonder if AEW knew she was going to go to WWE and put her in the match with Mone to persuade her to sign with them.

  • @georgechristianjr
    @georgechristianjr Месяц назад +7

    Maybe Hunter has plans to go to Chile & she could be an important cog in helping promote

  • @iamdnice1
    @iamdnice1 Месяц назад +3

    She didn't want to be under the "creative control" of the "CEO"

  • @SoFlyBmOr3
    @SoFlyBmOr3 Месяц назад +31

    Next signing I hope is thunder Rosa 🤑 to wwe

    • @pubighomie7334
      @pubighomie7334 Месяц назад +1

      💯🤣

    • @kazkaze2456
      @kazkaze2456 Месяц назад +4

      she has to wrestle mercedes for that..😂

    • @terryalan4590
      @terryalan4590 Месяц назад

      You dweebs want everyone in wwe. You wwe dorks are as bad as lakers fans …

    • @joolsmacgrools1288
      @joolsmacgrools1288 Месяц назад

      Yes. She’s too good to be wasted in that mudshow that is AEW.

    • @mezzaros5534
      @mezzaros5534 Месяц назад

      @@kazkaze2456 at this point doesn't anyone want to voluntarily wrestle her? With her "creative control" she can choose to never lose another match for the rest of her contract.

  • @notoriousnerd
    @notoriousnerd Месяц назад +14

    The Paul Levesque era 🔥

    • @therev_sungyungmoon24
      @therev_sungyungmoon24 Месяц назад +2

      He will never beat the "Attitude Era" no matter how hard he tries. He wouldn't be where he is now without Vince McMahon.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      yawn ​@@therev_sungyungmoon24

  • @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE
    @WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE Месяц назад +7

    WWE has been keeping tabs on her for a long time and the Forbidden Door match was the deciding factor for WWE to pull the trigger.
    Most likely case how she got out and was able to sign with WWE.. Probably a contract buy-out which CMLL accepted.

    • @DoctorSlice
      @DoctorSlice Месяц назад +1

      But WWE turned her away in the past

    • @emart398
      @emart398 Месяц назад

      ​@@DoctorSliceWelcome to corporate america.. it's how it works. You can get rejected, build up your resume and then get the job

    • @DoctorSlice
      @DoctorSlice Месяц назад

      @@emart398 I totally agree

  • @camilocorrales8930
    @camilocorrales8930 Месяц назад +6

    Everyone is assuming wwe told her to just drop all her remaining dates and come straight to wwe we don’ what happened at the meeting if she decided not to fulfill the dates that’s her decision stop assuming the worst when AEW does it no one says anything but when it’s wwe it’s wrong

  • @joshram4354
    @joshram4354 Месяц назад +2

    If I have a chance to get my dream job, I could care less what other people think. Sometimes you only have one chance and have to take it.

  • @gabriellane9366
    @gabriellane9366 Месяц назад +4

    I am excited to see Stephanie in action for WWE. Obviously, everyone is allowed and entitled to an own opinion, but if you lose your NJPW to Mercedes Mone just for politics or the name, it's normal to leave.

  • @R_ziggz
    @R_ziggz Месяц назад +3

    aaaah nic.... We miss you man ❤❤❤🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

  • @cosmicking7979
    @cosmicking7979 Месяц назад +169

    AEW fans upset that WWE were able to sign her

    • @therev_sungyungmoon24
      @therev_sungyungmoon24 Месяц назад +1

      They stole her life a thief in the night. That is why. AEW was one with ties to CMLL and NJPW, not WWE. It is the sneaky, crooked way they went about it.

    • @DinoKaric1
      @DinoKaric1 Месяц назад +33

      Plenty of AEW fans are glad she got an opportunity with wwe. Im a AEW fan and I think the roster AEW has is stacked as is. Other promotions are mad at her, and rightfully so, for how she left. But If Im making the decisions for WWE you gotta use this momentum and the buzz they can't sit on her for 7 months.

    • @romanvillegas7280
      @romanvillegas7280 Месяц назад +17

      Well hey. AEW got wrestlers who were free agents and that WWE wanted like Jay White, Will Osprey, and Okada, ect. So there you go. SMH.

    • @DinoKaric1
      @DinoKaric1 Месяц назад +7

      @romanvillegas7280 I still think WWE should have gone harder for some of those guys. But Vaquer is solid pick up for them. NXT is gonna love her

    • @samukelisiwemudau3553
      @samukelisiwemudau3553 Месяц назад +4

      I understand why some might be angry at her not going to Aew but she has always wanted to go into the Wwe.
      The fact that she doesn't speak English it shouldn't matter but as long as Wwe are patient with her and help her become one of the best wrestlers.
      Shawn and Triple H will take care of this woman trust me

  • @mikemadsen7926
    @mikemadsen7926 Месяц назад +5

    She literally was never under contract to aew and had only one match why are aew fans acting like they own her and her choices. Vaquer chose the major leagues why would she want to job out to mone in dimly lit arena,s

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      Because wrestling no-name gymnastics washouts in a small room with 100 non-paying fans in the crowd is better than wrestling someone who main evented WM in front of 3-6k. Got it.

  • @kagamiuchiha25
    @kagamiuchiha25 Месяц назад +1

    I like Nic Nemeth (FKA Dolph Z.) 's opinions.

  • @franklingoodwin
    @franklingoodwin Месяц назад +6

    It was more than surprise. There was a LOT of salt when it was revealed she signed for WWE instead of AEW. And as for the arguments of stealing talents, how can you steal an independent contractor? They're not employees. So if you don't think they should be independent contractors you should fight for them being employees, not only when it's WWE.

  • @giovanniaroca5755
    @giovanniaroca5755 Месяц назад +6

    Stephanie representando la bandera 🇨🇱

  • @harbingerofd00mticktock
    @harbingerofd00mticktock Месяц назад +1

    Thunder, Hunter wanted to do all those things with NXT before AEW even existed. Idk how you can take the credit for that lol

  • @aaronbakerbcg3984
    @aaronbakerbcg3984 Месяц назад +1

    Loyalty is a bullshit word. WWE is the premier wrestling company period without question.

  • @lupehn
    @lupehn Месяц назад +7

    She carried mone in that match

    • @DoctorSlice
      @DoctorSlice Месяц назад

      No one even knew who this woman was b4 she wrestled Mercedes, She tried out for WWE in the past and they turned her down, all of a sudden they see her match with Mercedes now they go and snatch her up, what does that tell you

    • @user-in3xj6im7y
      @user-in3xj6im7y Месяц назад +1

      @@DoctorSlice Class, you wrote so much in a comment and still said nothing. You just don't understand the wrestling business, or why the comment?

    • @DoctorSlice
      @DoctorSlice Месяц назад

      @@user-in3xj6im7y I know more about wrestling than you know the rooms in your house, I can name promotions and wrestlers you never heard of, so why not try me

    • @fenoh
      @fenoh Месяц назад

      botche

    • @jimmyju76
      @jimmyju76 Месяц назад

      ​@DoctorSlice you kind of proved lupehn's point. would you sign the person who shined and carried the match or moné. it's like what's his name that put on a whole show wrestling a blowup doll, shows their skill on carrying matches....this kind of makes moné the blow up doll 😅

  • @andrebdd5818
    @andrebdd5818 Месяц назад +8

    Aew fans need to learn it’s not the loyalty friendship business. It’s the professional wrestling business

  • @skevlin5082
    @skevlin5082 Месяц назад +17

    I mean...Rush is in AEW and he publicly supported the man accused of choking her in a domestic...would you want to deal with that?

    • @IzzyDunn
      @IzzyDunn Месяц назад +2

      You say that as though Rush's brother Dralistico / Dragon Lee isn't in NXT

    • @bscnz7830
      @bscnz7830 Месяц назад +10

      @@IzzyDunn just because they're brothers doesn't mean they have the same opinion

    • @bscnz7830
      @bscnz7830 Месяц назад +4

      @@IzzyDunnand he’s at raw fyi

    • @beauclark1650
      @beauclark1650 Месяц назад +3

      ​dragon lee never publicly supported the guy like rush/dralisticlo. but sure they all have to be the same pers9j cause they are family,

    • @oakjavi9074
      @oakjavi9074 Месяц назад +7

      @@IzzyDunnDragon Lee is on Raw + you do realize just bc they’re brothers doesn’t mean they have the same opinion right? Siblings don’t always have the same connections with DIFFERENT people..

  • @thevietkid33
    @thevietkid33 Месяц назад +7

    If she's a free agent then it's not contract tampering. She has a choice to finish out her prior engagements and she chose not to. You can't blame that in WWE.

    • @twanmack2686
      @twanmack2686 Месяц назад

      She wasn't a free agent. Just those contracts are Ironclad like a WWE. MLW was the same way, MJF was still under contract with them and some way they worked it with AEW.

  • @robertoi5016
    @robertoi5016 Месяц назад +3

    Rosa needs to to wwe soon

  • @buckypants6314
    @buckypants6314 Месяц назад +3

    AEW needs to utilize their own talents in their programming instead of bringing people in from all over the world with no backstory. Outside of niche fans, the audience won’t grow if you dong have a connection to the talent. And now when showcase these talents it makes it easier for wwe to see them and take interest in them to scoop them up.

  • @WittySmittyNews
    @WittySmittyNews Месяц назад +6

    AEW fans boys are making her the villian Thunder Rosa. Most normal people understand how being an independent contractor works. If WWE is not being sued, she was not locked into anything.

  • @BigPUNoy
    @BigPUNoy Месяц назад +1

    Great perspectives from Nic and especially Thunder Rosa!

  • @poja101
    @poja101 Месяц назад +17

    Who are thesr people she keeps saying are upset, the 400 AEW fans? Maybe she just wanted to see fans on the right side of the ring😂😂😂

    • @pubighomie7334
      @pubighomie7334 Месяц назад +4

      🤣🤣👍

    • @anthonyolguinjr209
      @anthonyolguinjr209 Месяц назад +2

      She is probably speaking for the young bucks and Tony. They probably thought if she had this big match on one of their ppv she will sign

    • @captainchuppachup
      @captainchuppachup Месяц назад +1

      What an original comment 😂

    • @nityovlogs
      @nityovlogs Месяц назад

      ​@@captainchuppachup you again with the same kind of comment lol the irony. Dont worry Stephanie is in the right place away from that shithole named AEW.

    • @captainchuppachup
      @captainchuppachup Месяц назад

      @@nityovlogs WWE isn't going to sleep with you

  • @tuskanu
    @tuskanu Месяц назад +13

    The fact is almost all of us would stop whatever job immediately we were doing to get paid 10x more and be a superstar. Loyalty at the lower part of your career holds you back. Good luck Steph, hopefully she'll join AEW one day and face Thunder Rosa

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад

      And they’re already treating here like one, it has been two maybe three days since she signed and a lot of people here in Chile are talking about her already

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      No one in WWE is a superstar unless their last name is Johnson or Cena.

  • @wrestlelover_sa
    @wrestlelover_sa Месяц назад +6

    All Empty Wrestling

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      We Were Entertaining...in the 90s. 😂

  • @longjohn526
    @longjohn526 Месяц назад

    I hadn't even seen five minutes of Vaquer wrestling to see she is going to be a huge superstar ..... She has just got "IT"

  • @jamesfierro94
    @jamesfierro94 Месяц назад +8

    Triple H has opened the real forbidden door because under Vince these collaborations would have never been possible

    • @chemamorado2104
      @chemamorado2104 Месяц назад

      He’s going to pay

    • @DarthKotEI
      @DarthKotEI Месяц назад +1

      They don't collaborate, they acquire.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      ​@@DarthKotEI 💯 facts

  • @riturajkakoti4939
    @riturajkakoti4939 Месяц назад +1

    Thunder trying so hard to defend aew like she forgot wwe is way beyond aew's reach is crazy and funny at same time ngl.

  • @knyorbmu9034
    @knyorbmu9034 Месяц назад +2

    Competition?
    Wwe vs aew?
    Are we talking about live ticket sales?
    Ple?
    Views?
    Sponsors?
    What competition is thunder rosa talking about?
    One thing is for sure if you are from aew and wwe dont offer you anything eventhough you wrestle for a decade it just means you are mid at best.

  • @elliscaicedo9045
    @elliscaicedo9045 Месяц назад +9

    Stephanie Vaquer is guilty of stealing my heart 😜

    • @James.Gatsby
      @James.Gatsby Месяц назад +2

      same here my man. 😂

    • @elliscaicedo9045
      @elliscaicedo9045 Месяц назад

      @@James.Gatsby men of culture 😎

    • @Super122291
      @Super122291 Месяц назад

      ​@elliscaicedo9045 Hmm. I guess you are a bandwagon fan?

    • @chrisszyyy
      @chrisszyyy Месяц назад

      @@Super122291what’s the problem being a BaNdWaGoN fan? Come on guys. Stop gatekeeping your fandom. Isn’t it more fun if you get new people to join the club?

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      ​@@chrisszyyy I knew her since 2018. Stardom tour, slumming it in Japan at Korakuen Hall and Shinkiba 1st Ring! I get first dibs!! 😂

  • @runningwithdadead8055
    @runningwithdadead8055 Месяц назад +1

    Shannen Doherty and Richard Simmons passed away

  • @Mmgeneral
    @Mmgeneral Месяц назад +3

    The shit being talked about vaguer is seriously ugly. This is so gross. Congrats to vaguer for signing with the biggest company in the game.

  • @djchino774
    @djchino774 Месяц назад +9

    She made the right decision

  • @chrisxxc648
    @chrisxxc648 Месяц назад +4

    I feel like she wasnt going to get anywhere in aew like miro just sitting around

  • @MiniMugenMan
    @MiniMugenMan Месяц назад +4

    Thunder Rosa doesn't like Stepahnie Vaquer at all bro, lmao. Look at her eyes the second LaGreca brings her up. And her urgency to bring up the fact she's Chilean and not Mexican. Then she mentions all the online criticism towards her "Oh but that's just a lot of people saying that, not me." -Thunder Rosa
    See through as hell.

  • @georgechristianjr
    @georgechristianjr Месяц назад +3

    Yah NO!! its happening cuz Vince is gone NOT cuz WWE is copying AEW Thats crazy talk lol THIS is what Mr William Regal does , im sure Rey & them know whats going on & having imput

  • @kiidampuller97
    @kiidampuller97 Месяц назад +4

    Non WWE fans basically said fuck you for following your dreams 😂😂😂

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      You can follow your dreams and do business the right way at the same time. She's being used as a pawn by them.

  • @georgechristianjr
    @georgechristianjr Месяц назад +3

    Ones who arent afraid of that grind sign with WWE , BOO HOO AEW fans 😂

  • @edrom29
    @edrom29 Месяц назад +5

    Well according to John Cena, WWE offers free classes for language learning. Since WWE goes all over the World, they want the Wrestlers to learn the language a bit to communicate. So I believe Steph should be fine if she takes advantage of the language classes.

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад

      If she even has to take classes, English here in Chile is pretty weird, I’ve heard a lot of Chileans speak it fluently and some that can’t understand a single word

    • @charliereeb
      @charliereeb Месяц назад

      @@shortesnameofalltime We chileans speak chilean weird

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime Месяц назад

      @@charliereeb no la cago, igual necesito q vuelvan los csm, vienen una vez y tienen al pto jinder de campeón mundial jajajajaja

  • @ryanpatrick3772
    @ryanpatrick3772 Месяц назад

    Can't wait to see her on TV!

  • @beegnutzz
    @beegnutzz Месяц назад +2

    She got offered big money to work in the best company in the world and the largest platform for women's wrestling in the world... Why would she sign to AEW to job to Storm & Moné?

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      Best company in the world for women right now is MARIGOLD.

  • @ssjcajas
    @ssjcajas Месяц назад

    I'd love to see Thunder Rosa in WWE one day.

  • @aspectra
    @aspectra Месяц назад +3

    It's a bad take at 20:00 with Thunder saying WWE copied AEW with the working partnerships. TNA partnered with NJPW and AAA well over a decade before AEW started, and WCW even did some collabs with NJPW. It's far from an AEW innovation.

  • @christopherfrench6857
    @christopherfrench6857 Месяц назад +3

    I'm loyal to WWE I've been a fan of WWE since 1997 when I first started watching not just loyal but never had an urge to watch any other organization . That being said anyone wanting to come to WWE I'm always here to welcome . Unless you're cm punk I might feel differently towards but that's a different conversation.

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      Why loyal to a company that insults and disrespects its own talent and audience?

  • @MrJazzrocktb
    @MrJazzrocktb Месяц назад +3

    Come on Rosa….. poaching talent….. how much has Tk done since the star of aew…. How bad was the impression of aew after the ppv for her to just say thanks but no thanks!!!

  • @icantthinkofacooname3025
    @icantthinkofacooname3025 Месяц назад +2

    WWE is where you go if you want to be a star. There’s a reason TNA and AEW sign an ex WWE midcarder and it’s a big deal because people immediately know who they are. I love MJF and Omega but unless you’re a big wrestling fan u don’t know who they are. That’s not a knock on AEW they are building but WWE even at its lowest point was still 10 x bigger than AEW.

  • @briangonzalez9684
    @briangonzalez9684 Месяц назад +1

    I admit I wasn't as disappointed with her signing with wwe, because at the end of the day it's her decision but I was more upset with the way she left, I dont believe in burning bridges with any employer regardless of of my time there good or bad there's something to be said about showing sense of professionalism.

  • @jj204
    @jj204 Месяц назад +4

    Upset she wants to live her dream Is so cringe and mark ish.

  • @bernardheadspeth9001
    @bernardheadspeth9001 Месяц назад +7

    Lol. Thunder is on here to defend AEW! There is no way she thinks they are real competition! Ratings don't lie!

    • @ExpressDunlop
      @ExpressDunlop Месяц назад

      She's crazy and the most crazy stuff is she defend a company that buried her and ghost her for several month. Fuck her.

    • @Super122291
      @Super122291 Месяц назад

      AEW: where the best wrestle ❤

  • @wuhaninstituteofvirology
    @wuhaninstituteofvirology 26 дней назад

    if she signed to AEW then quickly got out of it (after only 1 match) & signed to WWE (who sniped her) - what was the contract signed to AEW that allowed her to get out of it so easily/quickly? *a contract usually means you've committed to it for a certain length of time, & to cancel it means a lawsuit/penalty

  • @robertcornelius3514
    @robertcornelius3514 Месяц назад +3

    For all my old school Wrestling fans, it's obvious today's Wrestling promotions are not designed for us to watch. Sad but true.

    • @pubighomie7334
      @pubighomie7334 Месяц назад +1

      ?

    • @terryalan4590
      @terryalan4590 Месяц назад +1

      I agree . But these idiot gen z and millennial wwe fans will tell you their current product is great ..,

    • @robertcornelius3514
      @robertcornelius3514 Месяц назад +1

      @@terryalan4590 , true, but it is such a small audience compared to the Macho Man Randy Savage days.

    • @user-in3xj6im7y
      @user-in3xj6im7y Месяц назад

      @@terryalan4590,,Gen z‘‘🤡

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      ​@@robertcornelius3514 The US audience is smaller, but the profit margins from paying fans plus the international audience are much much larger. What do you dislike about the current era?

  • @JaySriRam963
    @JaySriRam963 Месяц назад

    HAVING AEW IS A GREAT THING FOR MORE OPPORTUNITIES, MORE WORK FOR PEOPLE, MORE STORYTELLING AND MORE WRESTLING.

    • @rccomics
      @rccomics Месяц назад

      MORE TRIBALISM AND MORE INANE FANS

  • @nelsonortiz9295
    @nelsonortiz9295 Месяц назад +1

    people for some reason cant fathom someone would want to compete in the largest stage and the biggest wrestling company in the world where legends are made not to mention wwe has one of the best female rosters in pro wrestling

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Месяц назад

      They're the largest company for a reason. Because of monopolistic greed.

  • @The_Deal
    @The_Deal Месяц назад

    Thunder literally had her on her youtube channel. All of the questions about legality, loyalty, and leaving on bad terms is just absurd. How many times Mone left and returned and left again?. She literally quit right before a match. The commentating team apologizing to the fans watching about her and Naomi not showing up as advertised.

  • @TheRealAb216
    @TheRealAb216 Месяц назад +1

    haven't we always been told forget being loyal to a company and get your bag because you don't know how short your career can be and these companies will all drop you the moment you are no longer valuable ?

  • @RATANSHRESTHA-ox4jc
    @RATANSHRESTHA-ox4jc Месяц назад +2

    Triple h bring back dolph ziggler❤

  • @theespanishgod2371
    @theespanishgod2371 Месяц назад

    Vaquer is a very great champion and wrestler/human being!

  • @lilleek9294
    @lilleek9294 Месяц назад +1

    “Competition is real” why they tryna compete when they can just work together I will never understand

  • @blopikhamhock
    @blopikhamhock Месяц назад +1

    It was common knowledge she was weighing her options. You want her to be committed to a promotion or future dates? Pay her.

  • @jasonedwards1425
    @jasonedwards1425 Месяц назад +1

    19:50 is why we eat good as pro wrestling fans