Some things not mentioned: The suspension was based on the same idea as the Swede's S-Tank, and was intended to help elevate and depress the main gun to compensate for terrain. It was before its time, though, and was unreliable and complicated. But one of the things that killed the design was the decision to place the whole crew in the turret to reduce hull height and so the height of the entire tank. The driver was in a capsule on the left of the gun, and the capsule was geared so that it always faced toward the hull front even when the turret turned. But that caused an unexpected problem. The driver was being swung around the turret center, and his inner ear was registering the motion. But his eyes told him that he was staying still since his forward view didn't move much. The result was massive motion sickness, and drivers were unable to stay in the vehicle for particularly long before losing their lunches. It was very close to the trouble people have when playing computer games with virtual reality headsets. Putting the driver in the turret was never included in any tank design after that.
I didn't want to get too much into detail of the IRL tank, because I wanted to focus on War Thunder information. I probably should have mentioned the driver capsule, but I chose not to for some reason.
I’ve found the ammo for the 20mm on the roof for the MBT-70 it is HVAP-T 2x with HEFI-T 2x with, 10m 0-57mm 30-42mm and 60-13mm, the vehicle uses the same gun as the KPz-70 since they are overly the same and they both have the Rh202 20mm and that gun is mounted on the Wiesel 1A4 and since we cannot change the belt on the 20mm it is safe to say it uses the default round for that anti-air vehicle.
It socks that both the xm803 and the mbt/kpz-70's main dart round was heavily nerfed from over 340mm of pen now it only has just over 280mm if pen. Someone has said that the 280 pen was the possible pen at 2000 meters
The problem with the Apfsds is that the caliber is irrelevant when the round’s mass and velocity is inferior to most of its peer’s 105 and 120mm guns. Being a kinetic round, this is very important
Stumbled upon this video in my recommended and I do not regret it. I loved the MBT-70 before War Thunder, and after grinding through all the WWII stuff (which I personally find boring) in the US ground tree, I finally came across all of that sweet sweet Cold War gold. Researching the M103 now but my 8.0 lineup is a ton of fun to play, interested to see how the 9.7 lineup that I've got 2/3 complete will play once I get this tank to fill the last slot. Anyways, I'm gonna subscribe because I like the way you make your videos. Keep it easy homie!
Thanks! In my opinion, the US 7.7 lineup sucks, and the M103 is super underwhelming, even with the HEATFS. :( It looks really cool though! 8.0 Is tons of fun too. The M60A1 is actually pretty nice.
You missed the old days when this was THE top tier tank. While the T-64 was able to easily pen this beauty, it didn't matter when the other team were in sniping positions just as the T-64s were leaving spawn. And the MBT was able to just nope out of any situation whereas with the T-64 you just had to accept you were gonna die.
@@danko8983 nah, T-80BVM loses pound-for-pound against the SEP and 2A5. Idk why but it just seems like Ger/US players are generally worse, and there's still an issue with attrition at top tier. Germany and US need one or two more top tier competitive tanks to flesh out their lineups.
@@danaolsongaming lol no, T-80BVM is a point and click experience with the little disclaimer of do not shot at turret cheeks, meanwhile Abrams has to aim at the little weakspots of a T-80 which are the drivers port and LFP, and add the fact that the carousel doesnt produce spall and the charges dont detonate when hit 40% of the time and you have the combo of literally the most op tank in game, there is no aspect in which the T-80 falls short against the Abrams except in reverse speed and depression
@@danko8983 And being in the nation with the best AA/TD and best CAS in the game, as well as having the 2nd best round behind the DM53. Having played all 3 nations at their highest tier since maybe a few months after ground forces came out of beta, the problems of Russian winrates have to do with lack of viable vehicles beyond the 2nd MBT spawn, not the tanks themselves. Russia just has more viable meta vehicles to bring out, but with NATO you just have 2 MBTS, and that's it.
I love this vehicle so much it’s like the tech tree xm1 same play style that’s incredible fun though it’s been nerfed due to the absurd amount of up tiers it’s gets from the 10-10.3 premium spam
I would love to see More videos like these History to get you in the mood to play it And the Tank itself in Game Watched all the other videos,cant wait for more.
Ngl man I love these tanks way more then the Abrams they just do so much work and way better it feels. Also one thing is the fuel is in the front of the hull with the crew in the turret so what you can do is if a enemy can see you but you have cover peek the front out just barely and they will probably shoot you because most tanks have the driver in the front while this thing doesn’t so most often times then not you can take a shot have it do nothing then kill them it also tanks shots at times I have found
I LOVE THESE. I found you only few days ago and already seen all the vids. Idk why but they are just calming and really entertaining. Keep up the good work!
Hey, great video as always ! The MBT 70 is one of the main reason for why I mained germany for hundreds of hours. Btw could you put a list of the songs you used in the video ?
I got flashbacks to the time when XM-803 and MBT-70 was an absolute dogshit tank (346mm of pen at 10m for a 152mm with 7.5 second reload is not a good gun)
Yes Guys, because the size of the Apfsds is Not 152mm. Look at the weight of it. Only 3. something kg. Even the 100mm russian apfsds weight the same. The Caliber size does not matter. (Sorry For my Not so good english)
@@CrabbyPattyMoox gets 6 second reload, more smoke grenades (2/16 instead of 4/8), and has slightly better HP per ton. Honestly think the MBT-70 and XM-803 should move down by 0.3. Although the three get terrible rounds for the BR (Most 9.0s already get DM23 / DM33 or equivalent), the KPZ-70 is definitely much better than the american counterpart and the XM-803.
May I introduce you to the pt-16 and Leo 2k lineup even better with the 120 4 second auto loader with dm23 thing is a monster and is also The fastest Leo in game guess that’s what you get with a prototype Leo 2 huh
Blaming the failure of the MBT-70 project on measurement inaccuracies and stuff like that is immensely deceiving. :D The MBT-70 project mainly failed because America wanted it to be that "super-tank" that had it all (stuff like the ability to launch rockets) and shit like that and Germany not agreeing. Same as the proposed usage of a turbine engine, which was hugely unnecesssary. And last but not least, America wanting it to be more specified to work on desert ground, than on european terrain, which was obviously Germanys interest in their tank.
@@CrabbyPattyMoox your channel is growing so quickly like I went on holidays for 2 weeks and you are past 4k subs I remember you used to have like 100 subs but I see why your channel has grown so quickly because you make high quality videos and its different
Everyone says that, but I've never nor been uptiered with that steaming trainwreck to face proper MBT's with active protection systems and rounds that just ignore everything.
The HEAT and ATGM on the XM-803 and the MBT-70 are complete garbage. If neither of these tanks had APFSDS they would probably go down to 8.3 and 8.7. But they do, and once you unlock the darts these tanks really come alive. Sure your armor is bad, but now you can kill everything with the laser rangefinders and APFSDS.
Some things not mentioned: The suspension was based on the same idea as the Swede's S-Tank, and was intended to help elevate and depress the main gun to compensate for terrain. It was before its time, though, and was unreliable and complicated. But one of the things that killed the design was the decision to place the whole crew in the turret to reduce hull height and so the height of the entire tank. The driver was in a capsule on the left of the gun, and the capsule was geared so that it always faced toward the hull front even when the turret turned. But that caused an unexpected problem. The driver was being swung around the turret center, and his inner ear was registering the motion. But his eyes told him that he was staying still since his forward view didn't move much. The result was massive motion sickness, and drivers were unable to stay in the vehicle for particularly long before losing their lunches. It was very close to the trouble people have when playing computer games with virtual reality headsets. Putting the driver in the turret was never included in any tank design after that.
I didn't want to get too much into detail of the IRL tank, because I wanted to focus on War Thunder information. I probably should have mentioned the driver capsule, but I chose not to for some reason.
The production quality on this is insane. I haven’t made yt videos in a while but I can tell the effort that went into this
The best part is that he made it in roughly 3-4 days, I can't do it even in weeks
You made yt vids?
@@ethanspaziani1070 forever ago. All unlisted now
@@SuperMetallicaBros awwh why did you unlist them and stop if I may ask
If you assign a button to secondary armaments you can precisely aim the 20mm
Great video! I was personally more a fan of the XM-803, although it seems a little over tiered nowadays. 8.7 would be nice for it I think.
Its not even slightly over tiered at 9.0
I’ve found the ammo for the 20mm on the roof for the MBT-70 it is HVAP-T 2x with HEFI-T 2x with, 10m 0-57mm 30-42mm and 60-13mm, the vehicle uses the same gun as the KPz-70 since they are overly the same and they both have the Rh202 20mm and that gun is mounted on the Wiesel 1A4 and since we cannot change the belt on the 20mm it is safe to say it uses the default round for that anti-air vehicle.
I like to research facts about vehicles in games so when I heard that you didn’t know what type of ammo it uses I just had to dig in lol
cant u see the ammo in the protection analysis?
I love how the first kill in the video is just a child. Lol, also can you do HSTVL?
Do we really need spookston 2.0?
@@diegocastro7434 yep
@@Nativeat1YT fuck HSTVL just go watch furry boy talk about it
The history section will be a breeze for this guy, it's all done for him!
Short, informative, funny: Your videos are perfect please keep it up
Your chanel is actually amazing. I found it randomly and it was a great find.
5:00 that runescape theme tho... really caught me off guard
It socks that both the xm803 and the mbt/kpz-70's main dart round was heavily nerfed from over 340mm of pen now it only has just over 280mm if pen. Someone has said that the 280 pen was the possible pen at 2000 meters
this man narating videos in different level, absolutely engaging kudos to you patty
Bro legit this style of video was badasssss!!! Loved the RS music too
The problem with the Apfsds is that the caliber is irrelevant when the round’s mass and velocity is inferior to most of its peer’s 105 and 120mm guns. Being a kinetic round, this is very important
I didn't look at that too much, thanks bob!
Stumbled upon this video in my recommended and I do not regret it. I loved the MBT-70 before War Thunder, and after grinding through all the WWII stuff (which I personally find boring) in the US ground tree, I finally came across all of that sweet sweet Cold War gold. Researching the M103 now but my 8.0 lineup is a ton of fun to play, interested to see how the 9.7 lineup that I've got 2/3 complete will play once I get this tank to fill the last slot.
Anyways, I'm gonna subscribe because I like the way you make your videos. Keep it easy homie!
Thanks! In my opinion, the US 7.7 lineup sucks, and the M103 is super underwhelming, even with the HEATFS. :( It looks really cool though!
8.0 Is tons of fun too. The M60A1 is actually pretty nice.
The T92 and the MBT-70 is my favorite tanks in War Thunder!
You missed the old days when this was THE top tier tank. While the T-64 was able to easily pen this beauty, it didn't matter when the other team were in sniping positions just as the T-64s were leaving spawn. And the MBT was able to just nope out of any situation whereas with the T-64 you just had to accept you were gonna die.
it was truly an interesting top tier, mbt 70s vs kpz 70s and t64s
now top tier is just T-80BVM smashing everyone as it is better in everyway to anyone, the reverse gear isn't a problem anymore with the T-80
@@danko8983 nah, T-80BVM loses pound-for-pound against the SEP and 2A5. Idk why but it just seems like Ger/US players are generally worse, and there's still an issue with attrition at top tier. Germany and US need one or two more top tier competitive tanks to flesh out their lineups.
@@danaolsongaming lol no, T-80BVM is a point and click experience with the little disclaimer of do not shot at turret cheeks, meanwhile Abrams has to aim at the little weakspots of a T-80 which are the drivers port and LFP, and add the fact that the carousel doesnt produce spall and the charges dont detonate when hit 40% of the time and you have the combo of literally the most op tank in game, there is no aspect in which the T-80 falls short against the Abrams except in reverse speed and depression
@@danko8983 And being in the nation with the best AA/TD and best CAS in the game, as well as having the 2nd best round behind the DM53.
Having played all 3 nations at their highest tier since maybe a few months after ground forces came out of beta, the problems of Russian winrates have to do with lack of viable vehicles beyond the 2nd MBT spawn, not the tanks themselves. Russia just has more viable meta vehicles to bring out, but with NATO you just have 2 MBTS, and that's it.
RUclipsrs talking about getting to the MBT-70 when I remember it first being added and being the uber-meta for ages makes me feel old as shit.
Great video, love the history and editing style
Dude I love your videos specially the music
I love this vehicle so much it’s like the tech tree xm1 same play style that’s incredible fun though it’s been nerfed due to the absurd amount of up tiers it’s gets from the 10-10.3 premium spam
Beautiful video
Bro that smoke play was legendary
underrated channel
The 20mm uses the same ammo as all the other modern 20mm's ingame, same as the marder or ystervark
Do a Kpz-70 video. A totally unique tank.
you deserve more subs
I would love to see More videos like these
History to get you in the mood to play it
And the Tank itself in Game
Watched all the other videos,cant wait for more.
I love the editing sm
Interesting video, I feel like you need more subs for this type of content, great job mate!
Love the vids, keep it up!!
I love these videos Thier so good and entertainmenting I always watch your videos when I'm bored keep it up man
This is some high Level video editing
Fun clips, some history things and tips. Its very good vid ;D
Good stuff man look forward to the next video
Would love your take on the beast that are the AMX-13s! I find the premium version to be underrated.
6:17 mans just disassembled his whole tank
Excellent documentary style review
That thumbnail is fire bro!! I wonder who inspired it
Our boys down at R&D had a few words to say about this one...
I really appreciate the runescape login tunes.
Love ur content man i subbed like 3 mins into one of your vids
Ngl man I love these tanks way more then the Abrams they just do so much work and way better it feels. Also one thing is the fuel is in the front of the hull with the crew in the turret so what you can do is if a enemy can see you but you have cover peek the front out just barely and they will probably shoot you because most tanks have the driver in the front while this thing doesn’t so most often times then not you can take a shot have it do nothing then kill them it also tanks shots at times I have found
You can set a keybind for mgs and that would allow you to control the 20 mm
Yes.
I LOVE THESE. I found you only few days ago and already seen all the vids. Idk why but they are just calming and really entertaining. Keep up the good work!
That poor crusader
Please PLEASE make more, great video
my introduction to mbt’s in warthunder was the fv4202.
the german variant kpz 70 have a 6.0 sec reload
Edit: the leo 2k is even faster 1500 hp and way 50t 30.0hp/t
Really enjoying these videos. Think you could make a video on the Begleitpanzer 57 AIFSV?
Hey, great video as always ! The MBT 70 is one of the main reason for why I mained germany for hundreds of hours. Btw could you put a list of the songs you used in the video ?
I just use a bunch of video game OSTs and I don't really want to give them away. It's a secret ;)
@@CrabbyPattyMoox 😔
Imagine if Crabby did a video on the L3/33 CC...
Yeah that was a request for an L3/33 video.
The amount of smoke though 😂
Do a video on the tiger 2 105 , if you have it
i would like to see if you talk about Merkava Mk.4M.
Also i don't know if Bioshock Infinite BGM is free copyright
I would love to see you make a video about the USSR KV 85 A beast at its own battle rating I bet you'll enjoy it
That tank is a BEEST
The tf2 music is the best in the beginning
You should do a video on the maus
I got flashbacks to the time when XM-803 and MBT-70 was an absolute dogshit tank (346mm of pen at 10m for a 152mm with 7.5 second reload is not a good gun)
one tried to kill me once at about 800m when i was in a turms. 8 rounds and 2 missiles later and I was still there.
Yes Guys, because the size of the Apfsds is Not 152mm. Look at the weight of it. Only 3. something kg. Even the 100mm russian apfsds weight the same. The Caliber size does not matter. (Sorry For my Not so good english)
The KPz-70 is only allowed 6 ATGMs while the American one can have as many as it wants. The German one does have a better base reload tho.
Honestly, I don't think you really even NEED 6 ATGMs on this tank. I would prefer the faster reload.
@@CrabbyPattyMoox gets 6 second reload, more smoke grenades (2/16 instead of 4/8), and has slightly better HP per ton. Honestly think the MBT-70 and XM-803 should move down by 0.3. Although the three get terrible rounds for the BR (Most 9.0s already get DM23 / DM33 or equivalent), the KPZ-70 is definitely much better than the american counterpart and the XM-803.
Whats the songs name after the ''now In war thunder'' part
3:18
Nina's theme from Tekken, or something
@@CrabbyPattyMoox watched a video of tekken 3 Nina theme and i don't think thats it sadly.
@@DubiousFIN Tekken 2 Nina Williams Theme
@@CrabbyPattyMoox thanks.
That's cool and all, but how does this effect the trout population?
Unfortunately, the trout have been feeling very threatened by the MBT-70 in recent times
Yay videa
god, I wish the m551 had a sabot round too
That would be sooo good. US would have a better 8.3 lineup.
I'm dreaming of getting this tank in WT
I like the 'redacted' military footage haha
ATGM only video when?
The German variant with the 6sec autoloader in combination with the 2K is dream team sadly not 9.3
May I introduce you to the pt-16 and Leo 2k lineup even better with the 120 4 second auto loader with dm23 thing is a monster and is also The fastest Leo in game guess that’s what you get with a prototype Leo 2 huh
@@lilcoolcat but has no 20mm and is behind a pay wall if you didn't take part in the event.
@@maggyyolokraut1941 true
Could you do the lowest tier swedish premium tank?
nah, I probably won't. It has discarding sabot and is useful for about 50 games, and then it's dropped.
@@CrabbyPattyMoox thanks for considering anyway, keep up the good work!
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woah it came out
I told you it would
Blaming the failure of the MBT-70 project on measurement inaccuracies and stuff like that is immensely deceiving. :D
The MBT-70 project mainly failed because America wanted it to be that "super-tank" that had it all (stuff like the ability to launch rockets) and shit like that and Germany not agreeing. Same as the proposed usage of a turbine engine, which was hugely unnecesssary.
And last but not least, America wanting it to be more specified to work on desert ground, than on european terrain, which was obviously Germanys interest in their tank.
Behold, American Moderna 👀👀
its the same 20mm as the wiesel or marder
Correct.
@@CrabbyPattyMoox your channel is growing so quickly like I went on holidays for 2 weeks and you are past 4k subs I remember you used to have like 100 subs but I see why your channel has grown so quickly because you make high quality videos and its different
They should add wii music to war thunder
I will try to not use wii music for as long as possible. I think it's too overdone to have wii music at this point.
Why mbt70 when m60 ambt
AMBT more munee than 70. mbT 4 phree
@@CrabbyPattyMoox ambt is free if you did the event
I love you
Crabby patty exposing himself as early cas spawn cancer player?
Uhhhhhh... What????? nooo.....
@@CrabbyPattyMoox it's fine I also spawn plane second.
Kpz70
how to steal german tech, another chapter
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XM-803 is utter garbage when you only face nothing but uptiers
Not true
Everyone says that, but I've never nor been uptiered with that steaming trainwreck to face proper MBT's with active protection systems and rounds that just ignore everything.
The HEAT and ATGM on the XM-803 and the MBT-70 are complete garbage. If neither of these tanks had APFSDS they would probably go down to 8.3 and 8.7. But they do, and once you unlock the darts these tanks really come alive. Sure your armor is bad, but now you can kill everything with the laser rangefinders and APFSDS.
American tanks are bad (specifying the warthunder saw guys)
who's that?
@@CrabbyPattyMoox I'm just an insignificant being, even more comrade
nah, I meant who's this: "specifying the warthunder saw guys" who are the saw guys?