Clover OS Installation & Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- In this video I do an ainstallation and review of Clover OS
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The non-inclusion of the little tuxes while booting is a deal breaker for me, 0/10.
replace tuxes with wifu instead 😳
@@_yuri suprising that the /g/entoomen didn't think to do that
little tuxes? Is that exclusive/normal to Gentoo or something?
@@MsHojat Basically during booting for each thread your CPU has a small tux logo (unless you overwrite it) appears at the top of the screen. It can be enabled while you configure your kernel, so it's not exclusive to Gentoo, however, unlike most distros, it is enabled by default there.
@@00nemin that explains why I only see 2 😔
4Chan Lads successfully trolled him many times throughout this video.
this distro is one big Bruh Moment
An OS made for desktop threads
I can't wait for the Funtoo Linux review or install guide :D
>"default build"
>GUI portage
🤔
You may have noticed the year is 2021. (well, 2020 when you posted your comment.) GUIs are a default feature now. Humans are built for spatial interaction.
@@deusexaethera you will use gui and you will enjoy it
Candid eMacs review at 6:25
he is right though emacs is an elisp interpreter so it is a bullshit of text editor
rude
@@enoughmuskspam2490 just add evil mode. Now its vim but more extensible.
So they managed to make an OS but failed to make a vidya game?
they didn't make an OS, they made some install scripts
Also they made Pokemon Clover
agar.io started there and Katawa Shoujo
There are a great number of video games which started on 4chan, and were made by anons.
I wouldn't consider minecraft to be a failure
can you make a video on bedrock linux 😳. there doesnt seem to be much content on yt about it
+1 for bedrock linux, have been using it on a void linux install having zero issues. Everything works so well! Its amazing!
Bedrock seems very powerful. And most people claim that it's very stable, shockingly.
@@copper4eva As someone who's used it, yeah it's very stable. Once you have a bedrock install running it doesn't break
so , the first digit of your root passwd is '4' ... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Installs meme distro and get's surprised and angry over it being an actual meme
... it’s wasn’t intended to be a meme at first lol, it was serious until everyone in g realised they just use linux to rice. Back to Reddit lmao
@@limpa756 wdym use to rice
Do we really need more distros? I wish they'd put their time and effort into polishing an existing distro or make a killer app for linux.
you can do that :)
other fun source-based distro I've been tinkering with is KISS, would recommend
Even their website is minimal.
Man, I love your videos BUT you HAVE TO increase the terminal fonts!!!
Always love when you go over the new OS. What mic are you using btw. It sounds really good and I just bought one on Amazon and it's really bad.
Clover OS first of all about noobs-friendly distro, and after all it's about minimalism (so GUI-applications in priority), minimalism is not even its main feature, because as we see there are several options for choosing different environments and fvwm is just an option among others. It's for fast and easy installing of Gentoo-based system, there is almost everything that noobs need
And i'm as a noob (if i need Gentoo-based system) understood more about how to install Clover OS than from Gentoo Handbook, where i'm completely lost in options, pile of options, which i even don't know which one of them i need on my system, because Gentoo Handbook was written without considering the fact that people from outside of highly-intellect-*nix-geek community might come, for example like me, several years i used Ubuntu and don't even knew about chroots or something like that, it's like a kind of black magic for me.
Even now when i'm going to install Gentoo or something like that, i don't know what packages i need for the network for example, what configuration options should i choose for my system, because if you are noob, you don’t even know the basic things of GNU/Linux systems, you don’t know what the network stack should consist of, or what needs to be configured to protect you from feeling "naked", how to use basic system-features to protect your ass when you using internet.
You can choose only if you know what you need to choose for each component of your system and for this you must know what a complete GNU/Linux system should consist of, and for this you must be at least a very coola-*nix-advanced user.
You already need to know all of these stuff and more, when you going to install Gentoo.
But when you install Mint, Ubuntu or even Debian, you just installing the system, relying on developers' choice and decisions, and believe that they did everything right with those scary-geek-black-magic things.
On other side ArchWiki is more noobs-friendly than Gentoo Handbook, at least there is something like kinda being led by "wise advice" step by step.
By the way, i came to your channel precisely because of "Best Gentoo Linux Installation Guide 2019" video guide and found out that channel has many useful videos and if you make a video review about funtoo with installation, it will be great!
P.S.: Sorry for my english, i'm not english speaker.
And if you're curious about, i'm a regular Debian noob-user who switched from xubuntu.
don‘t feel bad about using what works for u and what u understand. gentoo is not a new user friendly distro. it is for advanced users who want to customize every aspect of their system, want to grind out every single gflop of performance and are tryhards in a positive way with some time to spare. compare them to the advanced overclockers in the hardware world. every ounce of performance needs to be squeezed from the system.
They also hardcoded CPU_FLAGS_X86 in the make.conf which could potentially not boot, depending on the CPU
g make big brain os make system go vrrrrrrrr haha
11:45 That kind of thing occurs mostly with fake transparency. There is probably no compositor available, and what rxvt is doing is fetching you wallpaper and setting the terminal background to a darkened version of it, so it looks as if it's transparent.
A Funtoo review would be interesting
I think you'd like KISS linux, its a minimal meta-distro that reminds me of gentoo a bit
Could u make gentoo video how u optimize it to use less ram?
so.... manjaro but with gentoo ?
Less polished and more minimal but sure
Well, Manjaro at least works OotB
@@twb0109 OUCH
Check calculate and sabayon those are more like it
No. Manjaro for Gentoo is Calculate Linux.
Bro 6:15 why the emacs hate bro
he thinks its a text editor and compare it to vim?
because it's bloated as all fuck
@@adamkocsis5769 nah not realy its
About 45mb and vim its about 30mb and also its full ide
emacs smells funny
Dossier which is completely against the unix philosophy
Installing cloverOS in itself is an achievement for normies. The thumbnail disrespects CloverOS too much. Other than that great video.
"Achivment" for normies. Normies don't go past Ubuntu, Mint at best. Idk the point of making an os that is half idiot proof.
@@faust9091 stop thinking in this black and white, on/off switch type of stupidity. There are varying degress of comfort people have. CloverOS was an attempt at addressing that, though maybe it wasn't a very good one.
Installing CloverOS is easy. Getting the damn thing to update is the chore. It has scripts that are flaky and manual Gentoo updating tends to bork.
it is great to see some gentoo based systems being mentioned in all the debian's, "noobuntu" 's , and arch's noise
bro can you make a video about emacs? it will be very funny to watch
How about writing a message to the developer with your suggestions for improvement? Constructive criticism is always appreciated.
Maybe it's echoing the password so you're 100% sure you typed it correctly? And anyway you wouldn't be live streaming an installation of the OS to your actual hardware
That's still dumb.
just make it asked to the password twice, no need to echo anything
Really all that's compelling about clover for me is the aesthetic
But then that's most distros because there's no practical difference for me as someone that doesn't code or do internet based work
Great video as always,
I have a question, how do you go about TIME MANAGEMENT?
Do you follow a strict schedule or is it a sporadic and spontaneous?
Imho Gentoo can be made to be very beginner friendly distro where user doen't really need to know anything about Gentoo and use it just like Debian. It could not be done 3 years ago without adding binary package support - this is already supported by Gentoo and my understanding is one could use Gentoo like that without touching /etc/portage and in this case just adding easy installer and maybe adjusting some install scripts to automate some things... or rather adding meta packages which not only install stuff but also configure it on the system. Such distro if done right could be amazing for full range of users from newbies down to hardcores... these last ones being your ordinary Gentoo users.
Venom or CRUX Linux?
You can use flatpak to install kdenlive:
flatpak.org/setup/Gentoo/
flatpak provides you precompiled binaries of lot of packages. I think is a good companion for gentoo when you have difficulties to install some package.
Good video BTW.
IDK if this is a real take on a distro or a shitpost to see ppl suffer. Either way I'm impressed /g/
Lol. I've installed CloverOS on bare metal testing partition ...He would really rAnt when trying to update this. I've tried several attempts with horrible results .
/g has no talent. No one is a (good) programmer/linux user there. Every month or so they're shilling a different set of stuff. Right now they're shilling Lisp because "it's the most powerful programming language" and Debian because "it just werks and is the final redpill", and OpenBSD because "it's the last non poz OS" until it got poz
@@pierre3480
Shut up elitist
@@pierre3480 I'll go a step further and say Haskell for language and Devuan as distro.
i want a theme that looks like this, especially with that cursor. looks so sweet imo
gparted doesn't have a lot of gnome deps. Just a bunch of file system specific dependencies it pulls.
With regards to kdenlive - I assume you have qtnetwork from the libressl overlay installed? That's usually the dependency that causes all the ssl conflicts with KDE programs. I'm using libressl too and I'm able to get to the emerge confirmation prompt without errors
yeah that's the root of the problem, but I needed qtnetwork from the libressl overlay to build firefox. I might try to rebuild the latest version without qtnetwork, the bin version, or might just switch to a different browser.
Mental Outlaw Just to clarify, I use qtnetwork::libressl as well (and I also build firefox from source) so it must be something else on your end. I don't have any specific solutions but a clean merge SHOULD still be possible lol
Questions are:
1. Could you do a video on Emacs? I.e. Why do you hate it? It's not that bad actually (I use Vim, but Vim really is missing some features Emacs distributions like Spacemacs have).
2. Could you do a video on Funtoo? Would be interesting to see.
3. If you have the time, could you consider reviewing Bedrock Linux?
4. Same as (3), but for Exherbo Linux.
Thanks for this nice review.
"Aurora" is the name of Firefox without branding (USE="-branding"), also it is called "Nightly" (at least that's what you will get if you merge FF with said USE flag)
can you elaborate? i'm pretty interested but i'm not sure what you mean.
@@sjuvanet there is a USE flag called "branding".
If you disable that use flag (add "www-client/firefox -branding" to package.use) you will get a firefox version without the official brading - ie. no firefox logo. The desktop file that version of firefox installs is named "Aurora".
From gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/www-client/firefox/firefox-78.0.2.ebuild
"
if use bindist ; then
sizes="16 32 48"
icon_path="${S}/browser/branding/aurora"
# Firefox's new rapid release cycle means no more codenames
# Let's just stick with this one...
icon="aurora"
name="Aurora"
"
That is the Gntoo build system BUT Firefox has its own way of marking a version as "without official branding" - they call it Nightly.
So if you open "Aurora" it will present itself as "Nightly".
Sounds pretty fucking stupid that they would call it Nightly and Aurora at the same time when it in fact doesn't seem to be either of those. Thanks for telling us!
@@BurgerKingHarkinian absolutely agree. The best version would be to call it "Unbranded Browser" or sth like that. I think the word Firefox can't be used because it's branding :/
Lol I trust 4chan more than any company.
Suprised Clover OS even still exists. Last time I've looked it seemed abandoned. It never worked out for me, Vanilla Gentoo is much better. At least they seem redpilled on text editors.
Not to judge but why hate on EMACS? Is this another anti-rms meme or am i not getting something?
Besides, emacs is not even a "text editor".
Isn't gparted just using gtk3?
Gtk stands for gimp tool kit not Gnome. And gtk3 is pretty small, it's just a couple megs. And if we're all being honest, we're at least using one graphical application, else we wouldn't even have xorg installed, and the list of graphical applications not using gtk or qt is pretty small.
How about Parabola or Hypebola next?
32:00 Kenny Gentoono here. I'm gonna give this distro a strong D to a light C.
Hey ! Smplayer is awesome , no covering it up
SMplayer is pretty good btw
Its like buying an assembled Lego Kit
You sure /b/ didn't make this?
Edit: Thanks for the Gold kind stranger.
Reddit moment
My Gentoo install doesn't have Tux's when loading. I feel cheated
Alpine Linux Installion & Review
Honestly one of my favorite distributions. I would use it, but it produces so many problems from its use of musl and busybox. Great for servers though. I switched all my Debian servers to Alpine.
I made that website
Same
@@Yuriyalloween what?
looks good, unlike the distros installscript :D
holy based
smplayer is just a front-end for mplayer / mpv. Since it uses a GUI-desing from the Winamp era, personally I think that it just a bloated skin for mplayer, but it might have some options that I simply don't know about.
I prefer smplayer because it keeps all the standard mpv keyboard shortcuts, adds some more helpful ones, and gives me a way to manage playlists.
@@rhekman That's actually nice, I'm going to try it. I still think that their default skin is far more scary to any noob than any terminal could ever be, but if I remember correctly, that can be changed easily.
@@rhekman OK, I installed it and played with it for a while. I used version 20.6.0 (revision 9418), in MX Linux 2019.2, and this is my superficial impression of it as a front-end to Mplayer/MPV, not as a stand-alone media player.
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The Bad:
1- It still is a cluttered mess. Ten menus, each with a list of items in the double digits, and with a ton of submenus. If you like mplayer/mpv, you are going to get lost. If you come from something like VLC (poor soul), you are going to get lost. If you are a Limited User (luser for short), you are going to freak out. The shortcuts indeed work, so that helps... As long as you used mplayer/mpv before.
2- It has by default a chunky bar for quick options, to mitigate point 1, plus the reproduction bar. They don't fade out when the video start. The three bars use about a fifth of my 1080p screen space. The whole point of a GUI is to make the thing more intuitive, why it's forcing me to use an extra step to go full screen?
3- For some reason it ignores my default QT 4 and 5, GTK 2 and 3, and FLTK configurations. Because the damn thing gets to decide how to look. It has other options as skins, but it only uses my default configuration with the GTK 2 skin. Worse, the default skin is unfathomable ugly, a mess of nineteen-ninety GUI design with ninety-eighty color schemes, and with thicc icons to use even more screen space.
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The Dubious:
1- For some reason, it uses 82 mb idling without anything loaded. For comparison, Parole, the default XFCE media player, uses 54. I personally don't give any F, and the minimalist among you would be using mplayer/mpv anyway, but is good to know. To be fair, Smplayer does far more than Parole. To be even more fair, if the only thing that I want is to play a video, I don't see any advantage to using Smplayer over mplayer/mpv or even Parole. By the way, since Smplayer is a front-end, you are going to have mplayer or mpv installed.
2- It uses QT 5. If you have QT programs already installed, or are using Plasma / LXQT, that is not a problem, but otherwise, welcome to extra QT libraries. Again, I don't give an F, I'm using XFCE with a lot of QT programs happily installed, but is good to know.
3- It really is heavily oriented to mplayer/mpv user. Which means if you already use them, then you might not really see the point of Smplayer, and if you don't use mplayer / mpv, then you are going to need to learn a fair bit to use it to it's full potential. It helps with some things, like playlists (you can have playlist in mplayer/mpv, but you need to edit them manually), and clutters a lot of other things (like reproduction parameters), so in the end if you benefit from Smplayer will greatly depend on your use case. It definitively fails at being a more "amiable" version of mplayer/mpv.
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The Good:
1- It is fairly complete, it gives options for streaming, connecting to heretics things like Chromecast, and if you have youtube-dl installed, it can be used to play videos from streaming sites with the URL and/or download them. That integration is really nice, and I think that I'm going to experiment with it a bit more.
still the best thing to come out of 4chan
black man ends anime with one video
i want to add little tuxes whiile booting any solution
?
smplayer is mpv frontend. they don't use mpv probably because naked mpv sucks
what's the log of that thing i keep seeing in the thumbnails?
Now we need Sam OS and Alex OS
Can you look into nix package manager and home manager if possible also nixos.
Oh, Jeez. YandereDev did a GNU/Linux distro.
It honestly sounds like they actively tried to fuck it up as much as possible
Have you tried EndeavourOS?
I've used many distro's over the years (yeah since 1995 - Started with Redhat) and have to say EndeavourOS is amazing. It's now my daily distro. I used Gentoo for many years and was also one of the devs for the Lila Icon/theme pack back in the day. I just got tired of compiling everything regularly so moved on and Eventually only a few months ago actually found EndeavourOS and love it.... This was the theme I was involved with. All done in Inkscape a very long time ago. I also created a Lila xmms theme to match... www.gnome-look.org/p/1125736/
Here is my Lila xmms theme: www.gnome-look.org/p/1008332/
@@rdp8545 Glad to hear you're enjoying EndeavorOS. I'm going to give it a try myself soon. Also your theme is very nice
Why is GParted so bad??
Me, a Kali Linux/Debian Normie: *Strokes the three hairs left on my chin after attempting to install Elite Linux OS's* Ah, yes, text editor is shit.
Aurora is Firefox with - branding
4chan will like you if you use alt tech
You need qtnetwork >= 5.15.0 to get kdenlive with libressl
Try calculate linux next time
can you do a video on how to install LineageOS?
6:23 >dirty bullshit of a text editor
i am personally offended
You know I think the whole vim vs emacs arguments is kind of stupid. When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi
*and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like,
'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor
that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor.
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Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first
alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed
because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970 /usr/ucb/vi
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990 /usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed.
Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog
message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K;
and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed
?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?
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Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is
generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN
SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!!
Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
"edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely
you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you
are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should
not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE
SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
?
Kdenlive is garbage anyway check out olive
Aurora is firefox with +bindist use flag
It seems to be doing with the most minimal UI..... it looks real bad xd
Wait I thought this was for hackintoshing
I don't like green.
Don't do bloated software, kids.
Upload this to bitchute please
/g/ seethes
I learn something every day... today I learned Emacs is a "dirty bullshit of a text editor" and "nonsense". Apparently it is so bad that you can't stand even looking at it. Well, that only proves you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Hell even Windows does not do echoing the password.
emacs > vim
@LEmontghe vim | emacs
SimGunther emacs & vim
Crap distro
first
stfu
SpaceFM is a fork of PCManFM with a plugin feature. You're a bit of a whiner I'd say. Complaining about gui tools installed in a gui. When in the terminal I use cli and tui tools. When in the gui I use gui tools. Makes perfect sense. As far as Emacs goes, I'm a Vim user too but that doesn't mean Emacs sucks. It's just not what I'd prefer. I use Smplayer on an older machine that struggles in the browser to play youtube vids. it can play them streaming with acceleration. And complaining about a gui volume is silly. Don't install a gui if you don't want gui tools. Especially a traditional WM. Fvwm is not a tiling WM.
If you are going to be a shameless bandwagoning e-begger at least do it well and get a bitchute account or a peertube instance so I don't have to watch you on y**t*be.
Ohh no 5000k a sec, what a paint
ffs americans honestly
Our company has standardized on CloverOS as an upstream base for our internal distro. There is nothing faster.
That said,
* What kind of pansy doesn't install CloverOS on bare metal?
* Porthole is only shortcutted for newbies. it's emerged upon first use, like most of the other shortcuts on the desktop.
* Password is echoed on purpose during install. You're just wrong/triggered.
* output was echoed on purpose for full disclosure to the paranoid. You're just wrong/triggered.
* Default is NOT "how the developer intended" you to experience CloverOS. You're just wrong.
* The fact that you _only_ reviewed the default desktop made this a useless review.
* Literally everything after the 10-minute mark is pointless.
* You failed to understand the point of a uber-simple gentoo install in less than 15 minutes. It seems gentoo-based distros are not for you.
* It's seriously funny that you nosedived your review because you were triggered about a visible password prompt. That little "eye" on the KDE password field that reveals your password must make you lose sleep at night.
Your company standardized CloverOS. May God rest your soul.