I very much appreciate the Churchlands' work, everyone interested in understanding the nature of consciousness are in their debt. Consciousness, thoughts, information are physical phenomena describable in physical terms.
I think what makes us smarter than computers, in spite of the fact that computers have "hardware" much more powerful than the brain, is that the "software" or rather the operating system that the brain uses is much more efficient. Of course, the "software" is nothing without the "hardware", but for understanding this mystery (of ourselves being smarter than computers or even supercomputers for that matter) we must also focus as much on understanding the operating system or software of the brain as much we are focusing on its hardware, i.e. Neurology.
That's funny, I was thinking the opposite -- marvelling at the hardware of the brain. Parallel and distributed processing. Maybe analog as well as digital. Probably with fuzzy logic, and more...
If Neurophilosophy is neurology inspired philosophy, then what is AI inspired philosophy called? I think many of Churchland's questions have been rediscovered in AI. For example, pruning connections is similar to a method called "distillation" where a large net can be "distilled" into a smaller net with the full functionality preserved, and has a role in regularisation and generalisation. The rat planning example is related to Reinforcement Learning, where huge advances have been made recently (AlphaGo for example); interesting keyword for search: "experience replay q-learning". Much insight can come from the solutions found in AI if philosophers look into it.
For that, an equivalence has to be mapped between AI and the brain or whatever manifests 'consciousness' in humans. But the funny thing is, in doing so, we'd have to generate a functional mapping of the brain first, and foremost. But once done, it pretty much is all a neurophilosopher needs for carrying out a deductionist inquiry. And going about mapping it to the AI would be superfluous. Except, it would be of great interest to the AI programmer who would test the mapping to all sorts of environments. Oh, that's rather interesting too now. But soliciting philosophy from that? Hmm. Now, the brain interacts with the real world, and thus a digital mapping of the brain should interact with an equally detailed digital mapping of the world, otherwise it would provide nothing new. That's a caveat to bear in mind. Just my 2 cents.
These discoveries in AI were in fact originally motivated by neuroscientific study. The deep mind teams have mentioned this many times and there’s a good history of this Short and Long term memory models for example and many others
A wonderful advance would be if a split brain epileptic became a Buddhist, and became learned enough to write articulately of their self enlightenment thoughts. It'd be a fantastic undertaking for some future epileptic, to interview them on their feelings of their self, and what Maya is to them (LOL, there'd be two brain halves, so "them" is ambiguously correct either way, LOL). Oh, there is deep philosophical ruminations here off of what Churchland speaks of!
"In order to understand the mind, you need to understand the brain" Sounds also obvious to me. Can't understand why philosophers back then won't think that way...
neurophilosophy: neuroscienze + questioni filosofiche. Capiamo determinate capacità attraverso la neuroscienza: per capire la mente serve capire il cervello. EPILESSIA: viene tagliato il nervo fra i 2 emisferi, che aiutava i 2 emisferi a comunicare. La coscienza viene come separata, i due emisferi iniziano a vedere cose diverse. es. La destra prende il giornale, la sinistra lo chiude. IPPOCAMPO: importante per
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Is neurophilosophy the advanced theory I'm looking for? Epilepsy = Trauma- that Trauma 3 letter acronym she used... Look at history of war, psionic shockwave... Medical history to Egyptians, Behaviorism/pedigree, Nm... I need someone who speaks my language so I can catch you up in polysemy. This frustrates me. Neuroscience Microbiology Agricultural research Stem cell research Cannabis focus NY cannabis pharmacy legislation Self educated Forensic psychiatry Behaviorism Trauma Find me Tesla Franklin edition Einstein Started in our homes Virology Medical Sciences back to Egyptian times Biofeedback Iq 200+ Please find us I'm reading your libraries Scholarly D.i.d. Self educated Your libraries are weak I do not have your vocabulary Spec education Doctorate Home tutor Wellesley Bradley Buffalo state Nm state Talk to me Phytochemistry Philosophy Global economics Geopolitics Pharmacology Dementia Lupus Parkinsons Fybrodysplaysia ossifications progressiva Brain melanoma metastasis Rheumatology Physiatry Pain management Addiction medicine Depression and suicide prevention Homelessness exposure Well, this polysemy is a start. I don't have all night. Speak my language, please. Ps- gmo- cia- intent... the new deal... trauma.
Neurophilosophy addresses only one of the peripherals of consciousness; the brain. But the assumption that the brain is the Only peripheral does not account for the many exceptions which negate the rule. The baby born without a brain, now 2 yo, who can talk and is obviously conscious of his interaction with the world, and the few recorded cases of cortex destruction (search Eben Alexander) while experiencing a conscious stream, cannot be explained by neurophilosophy. Another anomaly is that of life forms exhibiting collective and individual conscious behavior, whilst lacking a "brain", or non local events experienced by many. Follow you own Google searches: there is plenty of information available.
Quote: "nothing but own consciousness" ..?? Babies "lack communicative consciousness" .. really? I bet you have read it somewhere, but never had children? Study need to be accompanied by experience as science has theories but need repeatable evidence, although the conditions are in constant flux, therefore the "same results" are not just unlikely, but simply impossible. Only similarity is probable. Eben Alexander has experience: It is now up to science to research his experience. Lack of "evidence" only points to the lack of instrumentation, method or willingness to detect it, find it, collect it and analyze it. If REAL science had such a dismissive attitude as you seem to embrace there would be no new discoveries. There is a great difference between a scientist and a technician: it is their imagination, and the understanding we yet know very, very little.
I'm telling you as a neuroscientist that Eben Alexander is a fraud, first of all he is a physician, not a scientist, who got his right to practice revoked, also a neurosurgeon someone who specializes in treating anatomical problems of the nervous system not someone with extended knowledge of neurophysiology.... and on top of that someone who is not taken seriously by the scientific community. Don't fall for confirmation bias you obviously have certain expectations or beliefs of what you want consciousness to be. Neuroscience shows that consciousness is a result of brain activity, all the mental faculties associated with consciousness emerge from brain activity and can be disrupted in different illnesses. Also the case you're probably refering to as "baby born without a brain" is misleading, the baby had a brain it was just atrophied/extremely damaged... if he didn't have a brain he would be dead.
Consciousness is a continuous stream of quantum wave function reductions in the brain. See O-Orch theory. The brain is highly adaptive and in fact you don’t need very much brain if the brain has time to adapt. Look up studies where cerebro spinal fluid floods the brain there’s an example where one man lost much of the brain. For new borns you can survive for some time with significantly less brain one example was a hemispheric removal in a young girl I believe who had a tumor. Though she did not live very long I don’t think. It’s about the preservation of information in the super position of the quantum states microtubule / tubulin likely in the neocortex.
She's so articulate and explains so clearly. I'm very impressed.
I very much appreciate the Churchlands' work, everyone interested in understanding the nature of consciousness are in their debt. Consciousness, thoughts, information are physical phenomena describable in physical terms.
I love neuroscience and philosophy. 👽♥️♥️♥️
I think what makes us smarter than computers, in spite of the fact that computers have "hardware" much more powerful than the brain, is that the "software" or rather the operating system that the brain uses is much more efficient. Of course, the "software" is nothing without the "hardware", but for understanding this mystery (of ourselves being smarter than computers or even supercomputers for that matter) we must also focus as much on understanding the operating system or software of the brain as much we are focusing on its hardware, i.e. Neurology.
That's funny, I was thinking the opposite -- marvelling at the hardware of the brain. Parallel and distributed processing. Maybe analog as well as digital. Probably with fuzzy logic, and more...
If Neurophilosophy is neurology inspired philosophy, then what is AI inspired philosophy called? I think many of Churchland's questions have been rediscovered in AI. For example, pruning connections is similar to a method called "distillation" where a large net can be "distilled" into a smaller net with the full functionality preserved, and has a role in regularisation and generalisation. The rat planning example is related to Reinforcement Learning, where huge advances have been made recently (AlphaGo for example); interesting keyword for search: "experience replay q-learning". Much insight can come from the solutions found in AI if philosophers look into it.
For that, an equivalence has to be mapped between AI and the brain or whatever manifests 'consciousness' in humans. But the funny thing is, in doing so, we'd have to generate a functional mapping of the brain first, and foremost. But once done, it pretty much is all a neurophilosopher needs for carrying out a deductionist inquiry. And going about mapping it to the AI would be superfluous. Except, it would be of great interest to the AI programmer who would test the mapping to all sorts of environments. Oh, that's rather interesting too now. But soliciting philosophy from that? Hmm. Now, the brain interacts with the real world, and thus a digital mapping of the brain should interact with an equally detailed digital mapping of the world, otherwise it would provide nothing new. That's a caveat to bear in mind.
Just my 2 cents.
These discoveries in AI were in fact originally motivated by neuroscientific study. The deep mind teams have mentioned this many times and there’s a good history of this Short and Long term memory models for example and many others
Today’s UCI Barclay speech is excellent.
Some pretty wild speculation here.
Where's the philosophy part here?
A wonderful advance would be if a split brain epileptic became a Buddhist, and became learned enough to write articulately of their self enlightenment thoughts.
It'd be a fantastic undertaking for some future epileptic, to interview them on their feelings of their self, and what Maya is to them (LOL, there'd be two brain halves, so "them" is ambiguously correct either way, LOL).
Oh, there is deep philosophical ruminations here off of what Churchland speaks of!
I am clever too.
you are funny sherlock
"In order to understand the mind, you need to understand the brain" Sounds also obvious to me. Can't understand why philosophers back then won't think that way...
neurophilosophy: neuroscienze + questioni filosofiche.
Capiamo determinate capacità attraverso la neuroscienza: per capire la mente serve capire il cervello.
EPILESSIA: viene tagliato il nervo fra i 2 emisferi, che aiutava i 2 emisferi a comunicare. La coscienza viene come separata, i due emisferi iniziano a vedere cose diverse.
es. La destra prende il giornale, la sinistra lo chiude.
IPPOCAMPO:
importante per
Neuroscience
Microbiology
Agricultural research
Stem cell research
Cannabis focus
NY cannabis pharmacy legislation
Self educated
Forensic psychiatry
Behaviorism
Trauma
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Tesla Franklin edition Einstein
Started in our homes
Virology
Medical Sciences back to Egyptian times
Biofeedback
Iq 200+
Please find us
I'm reading your libraries
Scholarly
D.i.d.
Self educated
Your libraries are weak
I do not have your vocabulary
Spec education
Doctorate
Home tutor
Wellesley
Bradley
Buffalo state
Nm state
Talk to me
Phytochemistry
Philosophy
Global economics
Geopolitics
Pharmacology
Dementia
Lupus
Parkinsons
Fybrodysplaysia ossifications progressiva
Brain melanoma metastasis
Rheumatology
Physiatry
Pain management
Addiction medicine
Depression and suicide prevention
Homelessness exposure
Well, this polysemy is a start. I don't have all night. Speak my language, please.
Very nice, but not ONE SINGLE MENTION of philosophy!!
She's talking about...
Start looking at the brain like a supercomputer
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I need vocabulary!!!!
Is neurophilosophy the advanced theory I'm looking for? Epilepsy = Trauma- that Trauma 3 letter acronym she used...
Look at history of war, psionic shockwave... Medical history to Egyptians, Behaviorism/pedigree,
Nm... I need someone who speaks my language so I can catch you up in polysemy. This frustrates me.
Neuroscience
Microbiology
Agricultural research
Stem cell research
Cannabis focus
NY cannabis pharmacy legislation
Self educated
Forensic psychiatry
Behaviorism
Trauma
Find me
Tesla Franklin edition Einstein
Started in our homes
Virology
Medical Sciences back to Egyptian times
Biofeedback
Iq 200+
Please find us
I'm reading your libraries
Scholarly
D.i.d.
Self educated
Your libraries are weak
I do not have your vocabulary
Spec education
Doctorate
Home tutor
Wellesley
Bradley
Buffalo state
Nm state
Talk to me
Phytochemistry
Philosophy
Global economics
Geopolitics
Pharmacology
Dementia
Lupus
Parkinsons
Fybrodysplaysia ossifications progressiva
Brain melanoma metastasis
Rheumatology
Physiatry
Pain management
Addiction medicine
Depression and suicide prevention
Homelessness exposure
Well, this polysemy is a start. I don't have all night. Speak my language, please.
Ps- gmo- cia- intent... the new deal... trauma.
This is almost entirely about neuroscience - very little neurophilosophy.
Better recommendations?
Neurophilosophy addresses only one of the peripherals of consciousness; the brain. But the assumption that the brain is the Only peripheral does not account for the many exceptions which negate the rule. The baby born without a brain, now 2 yo, who can talk and is obviously conscious of his interaction with the world, and the few recorded cases of cortex destruction (search Eben Alexander) while experiencing a conscious stream, cannot be explained by neurophilosophy. Another anomaly is that of life forms exhibiting collective and individual conscious behavior, whilst lacking a "brain", or non local events experienced by many. Follow you own Google searches: there is plenty of information available.
Quote: "nothing but own consciousness" ..??
Babies "lack communicative consciousness" .. really?
I bet you have read it somewhere, but never had children?
Study need to be accompanied by experience as science has theories but need repeatable evidence, although the conditions are in constant flux, therefore the "same results" are not just unlikely, but simply impossible. Only similarity is probable. Eben Alexander has experience: It is now up to science to research his experience. Lack of "evidence" only points to the lack of instrumentation, method or willingness to detect it, find it, collect it and analyze it. If REAL science had such a dismissive attitude as you seem to embrace there would be no new discoveries. There is a great difference between a scientist and a technician: it is their imagination, and the understanding we yet know very, very little.
I'm telling you as a neuroscientist that Eben Alexander is a fraud, first of all he is a physician, not a scientist, who got his right to practice revoked, also a neurosurgeon someone who specializes in treating anatomical problems of the nervous system not someone with extended knowledge of neurophysiology.... and on top of that someone who is not taken seriously by the scientific community.
Don't fall for confirmation bias you obviously have certain expectations or beliefs of what you want consciousness to be. Neuroscience shows that consciousness is a result of brain activity, all the mental faculties associated with consciousness emerge from brain activity and can be disrupted in different illnesses.
Also the case you're probably refering to as "baby born without a brain" is misleading, the baby had a brain it was just atrophied/extremely damaged... if he didn't have a brain he would be dead.
Consciousness is a continuous stream of quantum wave function reductions in the brain. See O-Orch theory. The brain is highly adaptive and in fact you don’t need very much brain if the brain has time to adapt. Look up studies where cerebro spinal fluid floods the brain there’s an example where one man lost much of the brain. For new borns you can survive for some time with significantly less brain one example was a hemispheric removal in a young girl I believe who had a tumor. Though she did not live very long I don’t think. It’s about the preservation of information in the super position of the quantum states microtubule / tubulin likely in the neocortex.