Sailboat Mast Raising System (CHEAP!)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Today I try and develop a mast raising system for my Macgregor sailboat.
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Great video. Love the ingenuity. Thank you.
How do you prevent from mast swinging side to side when raising it?
Your forestay turnbuckle looks too tight after you cranked it down. You want have some rearward mast rake ( quite a lot actually ). With the boat level front to back, you put a small weight on the main halyard so it acts like a plumb bob. It should touch the deck about 6-8 inches aft of the mast. Remove the boom for this. Then you tighten the stays to keep it that way. If you don't have the mast raked properly, you will end up with so much lee helm, the boat will not be controllable.
If it sounds like I learned that one the hard way, it's because it's true.
Best of luck. You're getting close.
+Paul Heitkemper great pointers! I was fortunate enough to have the original owners manual come with this boat and it said to adjust it until there was a "slight belly" in the mast, which is certainly open to interpretation! Your way sounds more precise! I'll have to measure it out and then mark the turnbuckle with some paint so I know where it should stop.
You don't need to even paint it and adjust it. Pin the turnbuckle to keep it from unwinding, and wrap w/ tape to keep it from snagging the sail. Then when you go to raise the mast, you can pull on your mast-raising line a little extra hard to introduce a *very* slight slack in the forestay, and the pin will go in easily. No muss, no fuss.
you need to pin the turnbuckle anyway to keep it from unwinding while you drive down the road. You could have a turnbuckly unwind all the way and fall off never to be seen again. Can that even happen... guess how I know?
Way to go!! It's cool watching you come up with plans to make something happen and the you design it and wham it's complete.
No fear, you just do it, awesome. Looking forward to seeing your boat make that splash. ⛵⛵
I like your little helper on the work table putting in her two cents worth of advice, LOL 🐓
Take care, hope your family is well 🤗
+Karen Williams thanks as always Karen! Stay tuned for the next video!!
couldn't tell if you had the side stays attached when raising the mast or if you attached afterwards but I would stay make sure they are attached before rasing the mast... a gust of wind could push it over sideways and that would be a very sad day for you... #YesIveDoneIt #SadDay
+Chase Mixon lol, yes both side stays and baby stays, and back stay were all hooked up before raising. Only thing unattached was the forestay. And I am sorry about your #sadday. That must have sucked! 😣
Nice job Ryan! Where did you acquire those brackets you use on each side of the gin pole?
THANKS! Haha - just rewatched and heard you say those brackets came with some rigging. So I guess you did not make or buy them!
lol, yes that is correct. The PO had the original mast replaced at some point and with the mast came all new rigging, and a box full of mast related parts. those brackets I believe are originally for the spreaders. I try to be resourceful wherever I can. Thanks for all your support Wayne, I really appreciate it.
I have an 88 which is just like your 89. I made my mast raising system with a piece of conduit also. I cut my conduit to 9' and made a slot in the forward end which the triangular piece on the forestay fits into and is secured by a large "quick pin". You could use a bolt and drill a hole in the end for a circlip if you want. At that length it is a perfect fit and the bottom of the forestay is right there where it needs to be so you can connect it to the bow chain plate. I did buy the brackets for connecting the Jinpole to the mast from BWY though. They weren't too bad price wise. I was pleasantly surprised. You must make sure all your side stays are connected and untangled before raising the mast!!! Bad things will happened if you don't. If you plan on being in the cockpit while raising the mast you will need at least 52' of rope. (So you can monitor all the wires as you raise the mast).
+michael willoughby I like your idea for a place to clip the forestay for the ride down! I'll have to do that! And while not on video I stop it half way up using the break built into the block (holds great btw!) and then walk around and check all the stays and detangle where necessary before raising it the rest of the way.
So are you happy with the system? What are some of your likes and dislikes about it now that you've had a chance to try it out? Will you be comfortable using it at the launch area? I set mine up to be pulled from behind the mast so I could use one hand to guide the mast up then cleat it off on a cam cleat. But that is not a perfect system either, just something I found a little more comfortable. Sounds like you found a better use for your pulley system! ;-)
+WarbirdPylonRacer I'm very happy with the system! Biggest dislike is that the pole will run against the mast and deck of the boat when you're folding it up if you aren't careful. I think I might glue down a piece of stainless to help with this and keep it from wearing on the fiber glass. Other than that I was really surprised at how easy it was to lift. It came up relatively straight and the break on the tackle worked perfectly and held the mast well half way up so I could walk around and inspect the rigging for any tangles. I liked hoisting it from the bow because, well thats where you need to end up anyway to attach the last stay, so everything you need just drops right in your lap.
The gin pole doesn't have to be on the bottom of the mast. Mines a few feet from the bottom like here.
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Have you been sailing before???
Before this video? Yes. Before I got this boat? Nope.
@@SailingFreeStyle no thats fine lol. I get frustrated when most important facts are left vague. EG in this case how the props keep it from going left or right on the way up Hope it works out and happy sailing
"Harvest" a deer? Seriously?
That's the proper term. I was stoked to see him use something other than the main rigging. Im looking for a pulley system for my mast but also something. Can use for MOB procedures. That deer sling is a great peice of kit😁
Hey Ryan, good video... thanks for showing the thought process you used to design/build your gin pole... the offset cheek brackets were perfect, did you have to drill thru the base of the mast to attach? Now that you have been using the system for 3 years, I'm sure you've made mods... any chance of doing an Update Video showing the current system and use is raising/lowering the mast? Thanks!
I recently bought my 1st sailboat and cannot raise the mast ( O'Day 17)....Ok if I am understanding the video, what I have to do is
1. make a gin pole system 2. attach the gin pole to base of mast, perpendicular -ways. 3 hooked to the end of the gin pole is a rope-pulley system 4. You pull on the line/ pully rope system and this moves the mast into position... Is this basically it ?
Nice job! I was a little skeptical about using the halyard and just the jib pole. My shrouds are positioned such that they don't hold the mast centered. I have an A frame set up to hold the mast centered. Just a suggestion, you might consider using your fore-stay to the jib pole instead of the halyard. It's pretty convenient to detach the block and tackle from the stay bracket and attach the fore-stay to the bracket in one process. But, why argue with success, eh? You'll get to know EMT (conduit) and all the uses you can use it for on the boat. Good Luck!
block and tackle is hooked around the bow cleat so it can stay attached and secured to the gin pole the entire time the forestay is being attached to the chain plate.
Hi Ryan, I wanted to start by saying thank you for making all of these videos. I recently got a free Macgregor 25 and your channel has helped me immensely. I am curious about your gin pole setup. How long is your finished gin pole? Any recommendations on how long it should be? I have some left over steel pipe and I rigged up something really similar to yours, but as I look at the pipe i'm using I am afraid it may be too short and don't want to damage my mast. I also noticed you raised the gin pole up against the mast. Do you plan on sailing with it in that position?
Thanks for watching and the comment! Im not sure the exact length. I want to say about 6 feet. I did think you'll ruin your mast with something too short, it will just be harder to lift. The pole acts like a lever and the longer the lever the less force is needed to do the work, give it a shot and lift it a few feet and if its not working out then you can adjust at that point.
You are blessed to have a trailer sailor. Its going to cost me about 200 to 250 just to get splashed next summer. Can't wait to see you get in the water and get your sails up. I'm already planning a sail up to Maine after Little Girl goes in.
+Randy Gardner I thought Little Girl was on a trailer this whole time! I suppose there are pros and cons to both having the boat in the water all the time or having it on a trailer....
I put cable stays on the side of the mast, so it can't fall sideways. That'll happen if it's windy, the boat isn't level or it's rocking on the water.
They are there.... we call them "baby stays" in the mac world.
Great system. Very similar to mine. I used steel tubing from an old trampoline frame. It breaks down into 3 parts and is easy to store. I also ran my block and tackle back to the winches. I can then use the winch to help raise the mast and cleat it off easily to untangle lines.
+Ken Steinman thanks! Good ideas!
When you raised the lifter pole to store it vertically against the mast, the bottom part hit the deck due to the length, preventing it from going vertical. How did you get around that?
The brackets are also able to pivot slightly where they attach to the mast step. So once the pole starts to hit the deck, it will cause the brackets themselves to pivot up enough so the pole is able fold all the way up. It does scrape the deck some if you don't "help" it up and out of the way. I will probably glue a piece of flat stainless on the deck at that spot to prevent wear on the FG.
Thanks for the courtesy of a good reply. I'm interested in your project because it seems you're just the typical ordinary guy trying to do the best he can, with what he has. Good luck sir.
cajunspike you pretty much nailed it! Thanks for watching!
Love the Idea ... When you store it in the upright position make sure it can't move ... you don't want it thrashing around in rough water and dinging anything up!
I was thinking Velcro straps to keep it up, what do you think.
Velcro is great for light stuff but that looks a bit heavy for velcro only........maby a strap w/ a velcro end!?!?!?!
Yes exactly.
Good job Ryan! I watched and saw your shrouds were attached. That is how my brother and i do it on his boat too. Get the mast in place, the stern hinge pin in, the shrouds and back stay on, then go for the raising. With his boat we have it tied off between the massive town dock and the "T" dock so we can pull it up (from the "T" ) while it is also pushed up on the boat. Looks like good engineering! Get in that sail before it gets too late in the season!
+Randy Gardner I'm hoping weather cooperates for the end of next week on my days off and my buddy is on vacation to give me a hand. Fingers crossed.
Man I hated this video until he screamed CHICKEN!
Well Done Ryan! I like your resourcefulness! Conduit is So versatile...
The Gin Pole on my Catalina 25 is set up similar; I use the Jib Halyard to the Gin Pole leaving the Fore Stay free to attach once the mast is vertical. I drilled a quarter inch hole in the front of the mast about 4 inches from the bottom to accept a pin that is installed in a wooden plug at the mast end of the gin pole. It’s a bit floppy, but with long enough rope at the block I can steady it as it ascends. Quick and easy to attach; quick and easy to remove…
Get That Girl in the WATER!
+Adam Carr thank you very much! I'm hoping for next week!!
I wish I would have seen this video earlier. Last Saturday I tried to raise the mast of my 1993 Macgregor 26s for the first time by myself and ended falling from the top of the cabin onto the ground (lawn). I broke 5 vertebrae tips and now nursing my back with pills. I'm definitely making a mast raising system.
Oh man that sounds painful! I did it before without this system and it really was not that easy. The original MacGregor handbook made it sound like a piece of cake. So after doing it like that about 2 times I figured I might as well make life easier for myself. Thanks for watching and I hope you have a speedy recovery!
Nice! Work smarter not harder.
Great job!! How far up are those lowest set of shrouds? And how far port/starboard of the mast base? Trying to setup something similar for my boat.
+Jason Wulf so the chainplate-ish (i don't think they are technically chainplates) bracket things the baby stays attach to are about 1/3 of the distance from the mast to the toe rail and then the brackets on the mast attach 6 feet up.
Thanks so much!! I appreciate it. Good luck with your boat.