Enjoyed that very much J-hn. Though later in 1972 I was of SFAI twice getting my MFA in painting with Director Fred Martin my advisor. - besides previous;y attending earlier in the mid 60’s & in 1973vusing my last GI benefits from my US air force jet pilot days. Jackson Pollock’s “Guardians of the Secret” you focus on was in1965 to become a tremendous influential on me,on first settling in SF from New England in my VW Bus & ever since had a continuing impact quite beyond his later workin NYC. Once in NYC;s Soho, I befriended a few top Jungians including coauthor of the “Jackson Pollock Catalogue Resume” My two hour Indie Feature film on Pollock “PollockSquared” with huge cast shot over more than a decade - finally to be released the next few months. Early segments were shown as part of my awarded solo evening in MoMA”s largest theater. Many Pollock authors I met besides others actually well knowing Pollock were key to my efforts.
Thank you for this wonderful presentation and for exposing me to many new artists. I've watched several of your lectures today and found them to be very illuminating, and your clear delivery to be very professional. Many thanks, again!
Thanks Andrew. I taught for many years at a community college and I learned to be clear. Let me know via comments if you have any other favorite lectures.
Thank you so much for this John. I was born in 1940, lived in Vallejo, and grew up with this AE work all around, and now at age 83 in Australia, I also am an AE artist. Unfortunately AE work like this is still largely unknown here and just not shown in public institutions yet in 2023. Staggering to see AE work so shunned and never seen here yet. I never thought this could happen. Our local public govt gallery, the Tweed Art Gallery, just wants to show portraiture and Aboriginal art, although shows all kinds of things, even taxidermy and clothing..but never AE art! Go figure. They did show a bit of illusional AE art by women for a short time but thats all. A recent large art prize show had winners that did figurative representational work and one of gum tree flowers. AE work was not to be seen. I am sending this excellent article by you to the local Tweed Art Gallery director, Susi Muddiman, as she has no way to really know about it otherwise. I hope she forwards this to govt art show suppliers that needs to start showing Ozzie AE work and there is some good work out there. But even the govt owned work by Jackson Pollock, Blue Poles. is not yet well looked at or understood. The whole purpose of govt art galleries is to educate, and that should include AE work. After all, it was first done by Wassily Kandinsky in Europe in 1910. Why is Australia still not allowed to see it in govt institutions for education yet in 2023? Once we start working with AE creativity and freedom, going back to representational work feels confining to the imported objects and landscape. Maybe some day Australia will allow AE work to be seen and enjoyed. I hope so. Thanks again for your informative article here John.
This was fascinating. I especially loved that you included the world market factory made piece. It’s interesting how abstraction went from being the art that only the elite could understand, to now being a favorite of home stagers. I love this artwork, and I am so glad to learn about the San Francisco art world. It’s too bad the rent is so high that most artists have left now. And all of the art schools are closing down. It was a time that won’t be repeated soon. I studied painting under figurative painters Paul Prachenko and Robert Bechtle at SFSU, and they HATED abstract art. So it actually intrigued me to learn more about it, and learn to love it (maybe a rebellion thing?)
I'm so glad you enjoyed this. Things really have changed and abstraction is no longer the greatly feared style it once was. Sounds like you had some interesting teachers in the Bay Area. John
Thank you, wonderful presentation. I enjoyed very much.
Thanks for letting me know!
Enjoyed that very much J-hn. Though later in 1972 I was of SFAI twice getting my MFA in painting with Director Fred Martin my advisor. - besides previous;y attending earlier in the mid 60’s & in 1973vusing my last GI benefits from my US air force jet pilot days. Jackson Pollock’s “Guardians of the Secret” you focus on was in1965 to become a tremendous influential on me,on first settling in SF from New England in my VW Bus & ever since had a continuing impact quite beyond his later workin NYC. Once in NYC;s Soho, I befriended a few top Jungians including coauthor of the “Jackson Pollock Catalogue Resume” My two hour Indie Feature film on Pollock “PollockSquared” with huge cast shot over more than a decade - finally to be released the next few months. Early segments were shown as part of my awarded solo evening in MoMA”s largest theater. Many Pollock authors I met besides others actually well knowing Pollock were key to my efforts.
Thank you for this wonderful presentation and for exposing me to many new artists. I've watched several of your lectures today and found them to be very illuminating, and your clear delivery to be very professional. Many thanks, again!
Thanks Andrew. I taught for many years at a community college and I learned to be clear. Let me know via comments if you have any other favorite lectures.
Thank you so much for this John. I was born in 1940, lived in Vallejo, and grew up with this AE work all around, and now at age 83 in Australia, I also am an AE artist. Unfortunately AE work like this is still largely unknown here and just not shown in public institutions yet in 2023. Staggering to see AE work so shunned and never seen here yet. I never thought this could happen.
Our local public govt gallery, the Tweed Art Gallery, just wants to show portraiture and Aboriginal art, although shows all kinds of things, even taxidermy and clothing..but never AE art! Go figure.
They did show a bit of illusional AE art by women for a short time but thats all. A recent large art prize show had winners that did figurative representational work and one of gum tree flowers. AE work was not to be seen.
I am sending this excellent article by you to the local Tweed Art Gallery director, Susi Muddiman, as she has no way to really know about it otherwise.
I hope she forwards this to govt art show suppliers that needs to start showing Ozzie AE work and there is some good work out there. But even the govt owned work by Jackson Pollock, Blue Poles. is not yet well looked at or understood. The whole purpose of govt art galleries is to educate, and that should include AE work. After all, it was first done by Wassily Kandinsky in Europe in 1910. Why is Australia still not allowed to see it in govt institutions for education yet in 2023?
Once we start working with AE creativity and freedom, going back to representational work feels confining to the imported objects and landscape. Maybe some day Australia will allow AE work to be seen and enjoyed. I hope so. Thanks again for your informative article here John.
This was fascinating. I especially loved that you included the world market factory made piece. It’s interesting how abstraction went from being the art that only the elite could understand, to now being a favorite of home stagers.
I love this artwork, and I am so glad to learn about the San Francisco art world. It’s too bad the rent is so high that most artists have left now. And all of the art schools are closing down. It was a time that won’t be repeated soon.
I studied painting under figurative painters Paul Prachenko and Robert Bechtle at SFSU, and they HATED abstract art. So it actually intrigued me to learn more about it, and learn to love it (maybe a rebellion thing?)
I'm so glad you enjoyed this. Things really have changed and abstraction is no longer the greatly feared style it once was. Sounds like you had some interesting teachers in the Bay Area. John
Is this THE REAL John Seed from the Ubisoft game Far Cry 5?
I think it is
I'm afraid he is far too cruel to be an art historian. And fortunately he isn't real...
The man has spoken! I prefer art historian John Seed, anyway