"Did you manage to see the face of the person that broke your window?" "No, but I think it was a woman and she was wearing loud-ass comic strip leggings" Her leggings are always so extreme and wonderful 😅 you can see her coming from miles away.
I love your videos! I worked in a machine shop in the U.S. for 29 years. We had a 90 U.S. ton press. I always used the safety shields. One day I was pressing a bearing off an axle and it blew up. I did not get hurt because I used the safety shields. I have great respect for all of you. Please take care and thank you again!
I'd like to see some tests like this using automotive panel bonding adhesive. It's specifically meant to glue steel together and it's incredibly strong.
@@xenonram That's why I suggested it. Doing auto body for a living I get to play with it almost every day. It's fun what you can do with it when you apply heat at certain times, like making it cure faster or letting it release after it's cured.
Panel bonding adhesive is really interesting stuff. It's even used in structural parts- usually together with spot welding (weld bonding) or with rivets-because while spot welds and rivets have higher peel strength, the adhesive has higher tensile and shear strength. It also greatly reduces vibration (quieter) and makes for a more rigid structure (better handling) than welding or riveting alone. Ain't cheap, though. A 200ml cartridge of 3M panel bonding adhesive costs $30+
@@puckcat22679 You are most certainly correct on the "it ain't cheap" part of it. It also requires a certain kind of mixing gun (funky caulking gun type thing) that you might be able to borrow from a local body shop. I'm hoping he doesn't mind spending the you tube money and time on it so other people can see just how strong that stuff is. They glue cars, boats, and planes together with it anymore.
Hi Lauri. Superglue's and thread lockers are all cyanoacrylate adhesives, which are anaerobic adhesives. This means they only cure upon the absence of air. Humidity will help the curing. So, you will get the strongest and most rapid bond when you have very flat surfaces and by compressing them to assure you have the thinnest cross-section of material and thus, the least amount of air. This will drive the cure forward as well as being ultra thin. This is where its strength comes from. We use anaerobic adhesives at work for bonding stainless steels and the bond strength is greater than that of spot welds. Super glue doesn't actually "dry," it auto-crosslinks from moisture and lack of air. Letting it sit for a long period of time means the surface "skins" over and cures but the material inside does not cure. That is why you could smell it over a week afterwards. You need to get the material very thin from clamping or pressing. Cure time is usually almost instant once you get the cross section to the right thickness. So, I would suggest that once you clean the surfaces with acetone (this is a must). You apply the material, put the steel plates in contact with each other and then clamp them or even better, put them in the press between flat plates to assure they are pressed together. It should only take a few minutes for a bond. Then let them sure for an hour or so.
I think they've applied it wrong, like applying superglue on part A then they sprayed it with the activator and then they put part B on top..you are supposed to glue the parts together and spray the activator on the outside
I love this chanel for just testing for fun. But for those who are more technical or scientific this is not a good way to load the glued connection and there is always a huge scatter when gluing. Therefore you need to test several samples with very controlled conditions and evaluate them statistically if you want realy know which is better. So be prepared for completly different results when testing it again.
When i was in construction 20 years ago we found locktite to be best brand we tried here in america, held best for our purposes, cool to see it do fairly well here as well.
G'day, Nah mate...; Glueing Steel is like Welding Wood... First drill some Holes, then sew the bits together, using..., "Number 8 Tie Wire, and a Cobb & Co Hitch !" Glueing Steel is only good for Ornamental applications. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
Didn't see anyone mention it, but also didn't want to read through ALL the comments. So I might not be the first to suggest this. Anyhow, it might be interesting to test your theory about dry-time. Just 2-3 kinds of glue, then use each of them to glue two pieces together each day for a week (or possibly 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 20, 30 days to test even longer times). Basically just see if there's a magic waiting time for these glues. Perhaps not the most actionpacked videos, but I'd happily watch that (I'm both curious, and could be good knowledge to have. And as I lack a good test setup... ;) Also, thank you for fun and interesting content. :)
Additional highly-rated brands of epoxies you can test include: JB Weld and Bondo. According to the instructions, you are supposed to roughen or scuff the surface for ensuring good adhesive power. It also helps if the steel is coated in millscale from cold- or hot-rolling during the manufacturing process. Something that you can easily do with a wire brush or wheel.
Yeah I saw that video. But you've still gotta give props to simply safe for the smoke detectors, water sensors and other equipment not susceptible to theft. It's better than nothing
I realise I'm commenting late... I'd like to see a similar test of different bearing retaining compounds and thread lockers being applied (per their inductions) to some bearings in a bore or on a ground shaft and then pressed off. Basically testing these compounds in shear rather than in tension, and using the recommend fits. Perhaps a single piece of ground shaft cut into segments, a bunch of bearings and a socket to press the bearings off using the inner race might be best and easy to set up. Thanks!
Try urethane type glues, like sikaflex and maybe a 2 part urethane. One of the best 2 part ones I have used is Teroson PU 9225sf, its meant for plastic but worth a try.
Thank you for this, coincidentally I'm working on a project that requires joining metal parts without welding and I was wondering exactly about this. The timing couldn't be better!!!
Awesome, indeed, I use Gorilla superglue which also uses cyanoacrylate and in the manual it says to dampen certain materials before gluing them. Maybe also a brand to check out btw, I love this glue. They have two types, ordinary superglue and one that foams up a bit to fill any cracks, this also stays somewhat flexible and works great when I need to glue small lightweight parts to something heavy. Just hold it in place with tape until it's dry and it sticks after some time.
Usually (with no regard to branding) thread lockers are indicative of their strength by their color. Yellow/purple is weak, blue is medium, red is extra strong and then green is like super ultimate power (maximum penetration into the threads - lower viscosity). In other words, all the thread lockers in the video are the more powerful thread lockers. Thread locker is an anaerobic substance, meaning it "dries" out whilst in absence of air.
Ya Lauri you didn't rough up the surfaces for the epoxy to grab onto. Epoxy has to have some surface "tooth" got grip on. The super glues actually work better with a smooth surface.
You are %100 right about super glue requiring moisture. When gluing metal its very tough for the moisture to cure the whole thing (even after years). You can help it by wetting your finger, then wiping it off on a towel, then rubbing the area to be glued right before applying the glue. That should add just enough moisture to cure the glue MUCH better. Great video though.
Activator is actually an accelerator. It was developed when there was only liquid super glue,and they wanted an instant bond. It actually makes a very weak bond as it sucks the moisture out fast! The super glue when allowed to dry/cure naturally slowly , objectively,out gasses the volatiles and leaves the actual adhesive behind. This allows the adhesives to fully cure,and using the accelerator like flash cures the adhesives and it is a substantially weaker bond. It's like concrete; the longer concrete takes to dry/cure the stronger it will be.
suggestion for press - different shapes of frames from same metal, like triangle, tube, square, pentagon, hexagon, chain vault...to show which shape is strongest.
Some superglues works with capillary action. How would it work if two steel plates where pressed together and THEN applying the glue from the perimeters? (Example loctite 420) the harder two pieces are squeezed together the better the glue bites. Or apply the glue then press then together to really squeeze out the glue to every little nook in-between the plates?
Superglues will work best if you take the 2 steel parts and use a surface block to get the metal flat, using 180 grit wet paper. Then degrease with solvent, and hold together, and apply a drop or two to the edge of them, and capillary action will fill the bond surface. Them leave to cure for a week. Threadlock the same, thin film works best with a very close fit. Epoxy same surface treatment, and then thin film of epoxy, and press the 2 together with some force for the gel time, then warm up to 70C in an oven for 24 hours. Then you will get about the best performance possible with consumer and light industrial adhesives. If you want the strongest you will need to get the professional grade adhesives, or construction grade epoxies. Try some ABE Epidermix, will smell bad, will need at least a week of warm room temperature to cure, you need to mix in correct ratio, but with proper surface prep the steel will fail first.
Hi there.i was Wondering if you can test different types of welds since there are different types of welding rods on the market.you can test the strength of each Brand of welding Rod to See which one is the strongest and the Best?
Can I have some request? I wanna know how much force can aquarium sealant handle during this same test. Most large aquarium have 200-300+ kG weight so those silicon sealant hold alot of force specially for much more large tanks.
yeahitskimmel he probably confused the fact that cyanoacrylate uses moisture to cure. Once it's cured, however, water doesn't affect it in any way. Certain solvents, on the other hand, especially acetone, will weaken it real quick.
These glue types should be pressed very hard while curing. The more force you apply while gluing the better contact will be. Try to glue it under press and you'll be amazed how much better it would perform.
Maybe glue some cast iron together. The surface is already roughed up and if the glues bond well the cast will fail instead of the glues. Might be a good visual way to see how well the bonds are.
try 3M DP420. holy smokes is it tough. Lot of factors in adhesive testing. Bond line thickness, surface prep, temperature. Who needs an MTS or Instron when u have Hydraulic Press!
You should compare with "metallic hot glue". Like welding and brazing. And mechanical alternatives like nuts and bolts and tapping and screwing and pop rivets 🤔👍
Hello, I am confused and I do not know what is the best material. I can stick the belt of the milling machine or the so-called sand paper or sandpaper and can I use titepond 3 I hope you understood my message because I use Google translator and thank you
I think thread locker is meant to have more *sheer* strength (like it would experience on threads with a rotating bolt) rather than tensile strength, which is what you're applying in the video.
Would be interesting to see how the results change if you sandblasted the glue surfaces. This should be the ideal surface preparation as the parts are effectively degreased and the effective contact area is increased.
Will be interesting to glue up parts and slightly compress them in machine and let dry under compression making a very thin layer of glue ,then testing like this.
Another way you could test it would be to apply it to the threads of a large bolt and put a hex nut around it. And then measure the force required to turn the nut
@@disgruntledegghead6923 there are bacteria strains grown in Huge vats just to clean stuff before painting/glueing, they do the work of very harsh chemicals like naptha and triclorethylene... And work well enough both in speed and result for industry to consider them a valid option. Exceptions are of course there but... They work.
En ois uskonut että kierrelukite toimii liimana noin hyvin, varsinkaan että voittaisi epoksin. Hyvä tietää.. Luulin että kierrelukite toimii vain todella kovan puristuksen alla ja kun ei pääse pakenee kierteestä (liimautuu itseensä) niin lukitsee sen, mutta ehei.. Ilmeisesti käytit puristukseen samaa laitetta, mitä osien erottamiseen? Jos katsot noita tuotepakkauksia, niin 2 metallipalaa jotka leikattu sivusta katsottuna kuten laatikon värillinen ja pahvin värinen osa, 45° kulmassa. Väliin liima ja testissä palasia puristetaan yhteen ja kun liima pettää, niin osat liukuvat irti toisistaan. Olisi kiva nääs nähdä miten nuo liima-aineet toimii tuollaisessa asetelmassa, vaikka itse liimaus (puristaminen) voi olla hankala juttu ilman jotain pientä jigiä, johon palat laitetaan liiman kuivuessa. Tai sitten tappi osien läpi, joka poistetaan ennen koestusta. |Z|
I think you should try to test the strength of wood glues. The wood glue manufacturers (Elmer's, Gorilla, etc) claim the glue is stronger than the wood it's gluing, I think you should test this by machining/lathing a solid pancake of wood much like this metal design out of solid wood, and then machine/lathe an identical part out of the same piece of wood but two pieces instead of one, then glue the 2 piece together and press then just like this to see if the glue is actually stronger than the wood. Then do it with a few different types of wood to see if the glue claims hold up.
cut little grooves into the face of the pieces so when the superglue dries on the outside the air in the grooves will dry the stuff inside. thats only for the super glue and epoxy though.
I would like to see the difference between 5-Minute Epoxy vs 24-Hour Epoxy, additional I would like to see JB Weld, vs Liquid Steel vs PC7 vs 3M Panel Epoxy and lastly the difference between thread locker vs Bearing Mount
If you spray a mist of water like out of a squirt bottle on the metal part after you put the super glue on the part and then put them together it'll go through an exothermic reaction and cure faster just a suggestion I use Loctite super glue a lot could you test that one for me please very interesting video I like how you glued the plates together so you can press them apart very clever good luck peace out into the world have a great day
3: 34 the point of application of force must be centered. 4: 31 the amount of glue should be the same and evenly applied. 6: 32 because of the displaced center, the breakout apparently began with a narrow edge.
I'd like to see the results of applying all of them *evenly* and dry & cure for an equal amount of time. Most advice I found says to allow liquid superglues to set/air-out for 5+ minutes before attaching another non-porous material.
We got bit into problems with time when our sensor setup didnt work with first try on couple of the gluess. So this ended up being also test on drying times also 😅
I would drill a series of holes and make sure they are scuffed with sand paper and degreased with acetone or such and given a month or so to dry. Sounds extreme but it might be worth the effort.
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"Did you manage to see the face of the person that broke your window?"
"No, but I think it was a woman and she was wearing loud-ass comic strip leggings"
Her leggings are always so extreme and wonderful 😅 you can see her coming from miles away.
I love your videos! I worked in a machine shop in the U.S. for 29 years. We had a 90 U.S. ton press. I always used the safety shields. One day I was pressing a bearing off an axle and it blew up. I did not get hurt because I used the safety shields. I have great respect for all of you. Please take care and thank you again!
I'd like to see some tests like this using automotive panel bonding adhesive. It's specifically meant to glue steel together and it's incredibly strong.
Panel bonding glue is stronger than the steel substrate.
@@xenonram That's why I suggested it. Doing auto body for a living I get to play with it almost every day. It's fun what you can do with it when you apply heat at certain times, like making it cure faster or letting it release after it's cured.
Panel bonding adhesive is really interesting stuff. It's even used in structural parts- usually together with spot welding (weld bonding) or with rivets-because while spot welds and rivets have higher peel strength, the adhesive has higher tensile and shear strength. It also greatly reduces vibration (quieter) and makes for a more rigid structure (better handling) than welding or riveting alone. Ain't cheap, though. A 200ml cartridge of 3M panel bonding adhesive costs $30+
@@puckcat22679 You are most certainly correct on the "it ain't cheap" part of it. It also requires a certain kind of mixing gun (funky caulking gun type thing) that you might be able to borrow from a local body shop.
I'm hoping he doesn't mind spending the you tube money and time on it so other people can see just how strong that stuff is. They glue cars, boats, and planes together with it anymore.
I think this is a great idea
Hi Lauri. Superglue's and thread lockers are all cyanoacrylate adhesives, which are anaerobic adhesives. This means they only cure upon the absence of air. Humidity will help the curing. So, you will get the strongest and most rapid bond when you have very flat surfaces and by compressing them to assure you have the thinnest cross-section of material and thus, the least amount of air. This will drive the cure forward as well as being ultra thin. This is where its strength comes from. We use anaerobic adhesives at work for bonding stainless steels and the bond strength is greater than that of spot welds.
Super glue doesn't actually "dry," it auto-crosslinks from moisture and lack of air. Letting it sit for a long period of time means the surface "skins" over and cures but the material inside does not cure. That is why you could smell it over a week afterwards. You need to get the material very thin from clamping or pressing. Cure time is usually almost instant once you get the cross section to the right thickness.
So, I would suggest that once you clean the surfaces with acetone (this is a must). You apply the material, put the steel plates in contact with each other and then clamp them or even better, put them in the press between flat plates to assure they are pressed together. It should only take a few minutes for a bond. Then let them sure for an hour or so.
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Also Anni: best youtuber in the world
For the test with the accelerator: blame the accelerator. It makes the superglue more brittle.
I didn't know that thanks for the info.
I think they've applied it wrong, like applying superglue on part A then they sprayed it with the activator and then they put part B on top..you are supposed to glue the parts together and spray the activator on the outside
This is actually one of your's most useful videos :)
I love this chanel for just testing for fun. But for those who are more technical or scientific this is not a good way to load the glued connection and there is always a huge scatter when gluing. Therefore you need to test several samples with very controlled conditions and evaluate them statistically if you want realy know which is better. So be prepared for completly different results when testing it again.
When i was in construction 20 years ago we found locktite to be best brand we tried here in america, held best for our purposes, cool to see it do fairly well here as well.
Anni’s robber outfit reminded me of her “Stockings Hacks” video.
I learn so much watching content like this. It's fascinating!
The best way to "glue" steel is to weld it. ;)
"hävittäjäliima" (MIG)
Glue is more like brazing welding is fusing 🙈
This about the *best* glue tho 😂 it would have been *the best way to join steel* but some ppl wanna know glues x ya get me x
G'day,
Nah mate...; Glueing Steel is like Welding Wood...
First drill some Holes, then sew the bits together, using...,
"Number 8 Tie Wire, and a Cobb & Co Hitch !"
Glueing Steel is only good for Ornamental applications.
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
There are glues way stronger than welds. You can find that in any modern car.
Didn't see anyone mention it, but also didn't want to read through ALL the comments. So I might not be the first to suggest this.
Anyhow, it might be interesting to test your theory about dry-time. Just 2-3 kinds of glue, then use each of them to glue two pieces together each day for a week (or possibly 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 10, 20, 30 days to test even longer times). Basically just see if there's a magic waiting time for these glues.
Perhaps not the most actionpacked videos, but I'd happily watch that (I'm both curious, and could be good knowledge to have. And as I lack a good test setup... ;)
Also, thank you for fun and interesting content. :)
HPC: "Which glue is stronger? Let's test it."
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I was just going to say this video had a Project Farm feel.
The Loctite was surprisingly strong. I would not have guessed. Very Impressive Demonstration.
Additional highly-rated brands of epoxies you can test include: JB Weld and Bondo. According to the instructions, you are supposed to roughen or scuff the surface for ensuring good adhesive power. It also helps if the steel is coated in millscale from cold- or hot-rolling during the manufacturing process. Something that you can easily do with a wire brush or wheel.
simplisafe window locks can be bypassed with a simple garage remote... just saying... 'lockpicking lawyer' proved it lol
Yeah I saw that video. But you've still gotta give props to simply safe for the smoke detectors, water sensors and other equipment not susceptible to theft. It's better than nothing
A comment in his video: "I had their system in my shop... the motion detector was triggered by the sun going down. Yeah...... that was fun." 🤣
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So simply safe is simply bypassed
So simply safe is simply bypassed
I realise I'm commenting late... I'd like to see a similar test of different bearing retaining compounds and thread lockers being applied (per their inductions) to some bearings in a bore or on a ground shaft and then pressed off.
Basically testing these compounds in shear rather than in tension, and using the recommend fits.
Perhaps a single piece of ground shaft cut into segments, a bunch of bearings and a socket to press the bearings off using the inner race might be best and easy to set up.
Thanks!
Try urethane type glues, like sikaflex and maybe a 2 part urethane. One of the best 2 part ones I have used is Teroson PU 9225sf, its meant for plastic but worth a try.
Thank you for this, coincidentally I'm working on a project that requires joining metal parts without welding and I was wondering exactly about this. The timing couldn't be better!!!
Please try again with roughed up surfaces using JB Weld epoxy. Betcha it works more better!
Hello Lauri! Hello Anni! I think it would'be interesting if you cover some prince rupert drops with glue then try to blast it. Thank you!
Someone went through all that effort to make a piglet and you squished it! absolutely love guys, keep up the good work and stay safe.
Awesome, indeed, I use Gorilla superglue which also uses cyanoacrylate and in the manual it says to dampen certain materials before gluing them. Maybe also a brand to check out btw, I love this glue. They have two types, ordinary superglue and one that foams up a bit to fill any cracks, this also stays somewhat flexible and works great when I need to glue small lightweight parts to something heavy. Just hold it in place with tape until it's dry and it sticks after some time.
I absolutely love these videos you guys do. Cheers from Canada!
Havent watched yet; but as a mechanic, im very excited to see this!
Usually (with no regard to branding) thread lockers are indicative of their strength by their color. Yellow/purple is weak, blue is medium, red is extra strong and then green is like super ultimate power (maximum penetration into the threads - lower viscosity). In other words, all the thread lockers in the video are the more powerful thread lockers. Thread locker is an anaerobic substance, meaning it "dries" out whilst in absence of air.
That was AWESOME.
I always both the cheapest because it was cheap. But now im gonna buy it because its acully good.
Thank you for showing us👍
Ya Lauri you didn't rough up the surfaces for the epoxy to grab onto. Epoxy has to have some surface "tooth" got grip on. The super glues actually work better with a smooth surface.
A little bit on the superglue activator, it’s been my experience if you use it the bond is much weaker and more brittle.
Try normal superglue with bakingsoda also in the side creases.
You are %100 right about super glue requiring moisture. When gluing metal its very tough for the moisture to cure the whole thing (even after years). You can help it by wetting your finger, then wiping it off on a towel, then rubbing the area to be glued right before applying the glue. That should add just enough moisture to cure the glue MUCH better.
Great video though.
Can you do the sam thing but check different welds? Like both different techniques and skill levels?
Activator is actually an accelerator. It was developed when there was only liquid super glue,and they wanted an instant bond. It actually makes a very weak bond as it sucks the moisture out fast! The super glue when allowed to dry/cure naturally slowly , objectively,out gasses the volatiles and leaves the actual adhesive behind. This allows the adhesives to fully cure,and using the accelerator like flash cures the adhesives and it is a substantially weaker bond.
It's like concrete; the longer concrete takes to dry/cure the stronger it will be.
suggestion for press - different shapes of frames from same metal, like triangle, tube, square, pentagon, hexagon, chain vault...to show which shape is strongest.
When you revisit, please also try 3M VHB Double Sided Tape and DP100 structural epoxy. The tape is very impressive.
I'd also like to see an impact force comparison. Glues like superglue and thread locker are great at handling load, but less so impacts.
Some superglues works with capillary action. How would it work if two steel plates where pressed together and THEN applying the glue from the perimeters? (Example loctite 420) the harder two pieces are squeezed together the better the glue bites. Or apply the glue then press then together to really squeeze out the glue to every little nook in-between the plates?
Superglues will work best if you take the 2 steel parts and use a surface block to get the metal flat, using 180 grit wet paper. Then degrease with solvent, and hold together, and apply a drop or two to the edge of them, and capillary action will fill the bond surface. Them leave to cure for a week. Threadlock the same, thin film works best with a very close fit.
Epoxy same surface treatment, and then thin film of epoxy, and press the 2 together with some force for the gel time, then warm up to 70C in an oven for 24 hours.
Then you will get about the best performance possible with consumer and light industrial adhesives. If you want the strongest you will need to get the professional grade adhesives, or construction grade epoxies. Try some ABE Epidermix, will smell bad, will need at least a week of warm room temperature to cure, you need to mix in correct ratio, but with proper surface prep the steel will fail first.
Hi there.i was Wondering if you can test different types of welds since there are different types of welding rods on the market.you can test the strength of each Brand of welding Rod to See which one is the strongest and the Best?
I still would have liked to see how JB Weld would have performed as it was made for steel. Also, these test vids are quite entertaining.
Ive never glued a piece of metal in my life but I still watched the whole video
Id love to see different types of plastics with different types of glue/epoxy etc :)
Can I have some request? I wanna know how much force can aquarium sealant handle during this same test. Most large aquarium have 200-300+ kG weight so those silicon sealant hold alot of force specially for much more large tanks.
.... Who needs a welder, start supergluing everything together!
Hate to burst your bubble, but automotive and aviation industry uses glueing instead of other methods for years now...
Kwaq84 can’t wait till they just resort to using silly putty
Make sure you use a water resistant one. Typical super glues are water soluable.
@@juliusfucik4011 Typical super glues are cyanoacrylates and are def not water soluble. That's dangerous info to not know
yeahitskimmel he probably confused the fact that cyanoacrylate uses moisture to cure. Once it's cured, however, water doesn't affect it in any way. Certain solvents, on the other hand, especially acetone, will weaken it real quick.
I have kind of a stupid question but what would you normally use a hydraulic press fit?
How did you cure these? I've found most epoxies and thread lockers cure stronger under some pressure. Especially thread locker.
Also id recomend using thinker plates that wont bow and allow the glue to " rip " if you catch my drift.
Thinker? Pick a lane dude! 😉
These glue types should be pressed very hard while curing. The more force you apply while gluing the better contact will be. Try to glue it under press and you'll be amazed how much better it would perform.
Maybe glue some cast iron together. The surface is already roughed up and if the glues bond well the cast will fail instead of the glues. Might be a good visual way to see how well the bonds are.
If you do another glue testing video, PLEASE try automotive panel adhesive! That stuff is “supposed” to be stronger than pinch welding.
Woohoo! Biltema! Nice to see my local hardware chain in the big tubes!
Relevance level up!
If you do another test I would sand the plates since that's what the instructions would tell you and it would be more consistent.
try 3M DP420. holy smokes is it tough. Lot of factors in adhesive testing. Bond line thickness, surface prep, temperature. Who needs an MTS or Instron when u have Hydraulic Press!
You should compare with "metallic hot glue". Like welding and brazing. And mechanical alternatives like nuts and bolts and tapping and screwing and pop rivets 🤔👍
would like to see you test rocksett engineering adhesive against other brands on actual nuts and bolts
the best with 925kg adhesion and the worst one broke by 125 kgs are both from Biltema and the low-profile stronger one is smaller and more expensive
Hello, I am confused and I do not know what is the best material. I can stick the belt of the milling machine or the so-called sand paper or sandpaper and can I use titepond 3 I hope you understood my message because I use Google translator and thank you
You can try curing the two part epoxy with heat. About 70°C will do it. It makes a huge difference in strength. Compare that to room temperature cure.
I think thread locker is meant to have more *sheer* strength (like it would experience on threads with a rotating bolt) rather than tensile strength, which is what you're applying in the video.
You can put superglue on one surface and dampen the other surface with a wet cloth or spray bottle to make it cure faster
Would be interesting to see how the results change if you sandblasted the glue surfaces. This should be the ideal surface preparation as the parts are effectively degreased and the effective contact area is increased.
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I like the testing and comparison videos. Nice job.
Will be interesting to glue up parts and slightly compress them in machine and let dry under compression making a very thin layer of glue ,then testing like this.
Another way you could test it would be to apply it to the threads of a large bolt and put a hex nut around it. And then measure the force required to turn the nut
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I have an epoxy gule which cures much stronger when heated - the hotter the stronger - would be interesting to see such an experiment
Im looking for a a chill mellow body high. Should I get steel glue?
What is the best steel surface for gluing next please. Because surface is a mayour component in gluing
Rough surface, obviously
microglass blasted is my guess. Possibly followed by cleaning with bacteria and rincing with 98% ethanol
@@najroe cleaning with bacteria?
@@disgruntledegghead6923 and that's exactly what I mean. There is an immense amount of research and possibility in surface
@@disgruntledegghead6923 there are bacteria strains grown in Huge vats just to clean stuff before painting/glueing, they do the work of very harsh chemicals like naptha and triclorethylene... And work well enough both in speed and result for industry to consider them a valid option. Exceptions are of course there but... They work.
En ois uskonut että kierrelukite toimii liimana noin hyvin, varsinkaan että voittaisi epoksin. Hyvä tietää.. Luulin että kierrelukite toimii vain todella kovan puristuksen alla ja kun ei pääse pakenee kierteestä (liimautuu itseensä) niin lukitsee sen, mutta ehei.. Ilmeisesti käytit puristukseen samaa laitetta, mitä osien erottamiseen?
Jos katsot noita tuotepakkauksia, niin 2 metallipalaa jotka leikattu sivusta katsottuna kuten laatikon värillinen ja pahvin värinen osa, 45° kulmassa. Väliin liima ja testissä palasia puristetaan yhteen ja kun liima pettää, niin osat liukuvat irti toisistaan. Olisi kiva nääs nähdä miten nuo liima-aineet toimii tuollaisessa asetelmassa, vaikka itse liimaus (puristaminen) voi olla hankala juttu ilman jotain pientä jigiä, johon palat laitetaan liiman kuivuessa. Tai sitten tappi osien läpi, joka poistetaan ennen koestusta. |Z|
UHU PLUS ENDFEST 300 ADEZIV EPOXIDIC BICOMP, please test this but heat up with heatgun the plates a few minutes after applying it
8:14 wait what happened with the long drying thread locker? It just cut to the next glue, no result!
...Gosssssshhhhhh dang it....I thought this was Project Farm video.
Can you do paper tightly rolled up and see how much force it takes to crush
I think you should try to test the strength of wood glues. The wood glue manufacturers (Elmer's, Gorilla, etc) claim the glue is stronger than the wood it's gluing, I think you should test this by machining/lathing a solid pancake of wood much like this metal design out of solid wood, and then machine/lathe an identical part out of the same piece of wood but two pieces instead of one, then glue the 2 piece together and press then just like this to see if the glue is actually stronger than the wood. Then do it with a few different types of wood to see if the glue claims hold up.
cut little grooves into the face of the pieces so when the superglue dries on the outside the air in the grooves will dry the stuff inside. thats only for the super glue and epoxy though.
I would like to see the difference between 5-Minute Epoxy vs 24-Hour Epoxy, additional I would like to see JB Weld, vs Liquid Steel vs PC7 vs 3M Panel Epoxy and lastly the difference between thread locker vs Bearing Mount
I've seen a lot of knife makers use 24 hour epoxy, so it's worth the wait.
If you spray a mist of water like out of a squirt bottle on the metal part after you put the super glue on the part and then put them together it'll go through an exothermic reaction and cure faster just a suggestion I use Loctite super glue a lot could you test that one for me please very interesting video I like how you glued the plates together so you can press them apart very clever good luck peace out into the world have a great day
Could you crush one of Peter Forsbergs skates? Maybe a fake Stanley cup and a Foppa Jersey, helmet etc
I'm going to be disappointed if there's no JB Weld
Garrett Walshe I agree. JB Weld can be renamed Glue 5,000,000. Check out Project Farm. He does some pretty cool experiments with it.
They don't sell that stuff in Finland. They have just bought whatever the local supermarkets have I guess
wow, a project farm twist! I like it!
3: 34 the point of application of force must be centered.
4: 31 the amount of glue should be the same and evenly applied.
6: 32 because of the displaced center, the breakout apparently began with a narrow edge.
I'd like to see the results of applying all of them *evenly* and dry & cure for an equal amount of time. Most advice I found says to allow liquid superglues to set/air-out for 5+ minutes before attaching another non-porous material.
We got bit into problems with time when our sensor setup didnt work with first try on couple of the gluess. So this ended up being also test on drying times also 😅
@@HydraulicPressChannel I think you are using too much of the cyanoacrylate super glues. Less is more, within reason.
Try sandblasting the steel before gluing
wonder if compressing them as they set would of helped?
Can you test how much load a 44gallon drum can take full and empty ?
I would drill a series of holes and make sure they are scuffed with sand paper and degreased with acetone or such and given a month or so to dry. Sounds extreme but it might be worth the effort.
I love this channel !
Great review for my knife scales.
Were the plates pressed together while the were drying?
Revisit with industrial glues that are meant for gluing two steel parts together.
How about trying old fashioned glues like Evo-stick?
when applying the glue, should press the two metal discs together with the same pressure while drying.
I would like to see the same test on solder and brazing.
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Lowry does that press have the same pullback power as the put out pressure. Jw case it seems like it shpuld
I wonder if warming the steel pieces before applying glue would help.
Add baking soda to your superglue. It will get really hot, and the soda acts like a grain in cement. Should help make a good bond.